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post Apr 13 2009, 04:41 PM, updated 17y ago

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Dear LYN Forumers.. if u have time come and read this...

Forumer you are complaining against: Brian
Dispute Reported case against him by previous lyn forumer: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=24832613
Telephone No: 0133999939; 0133333666; 0173957888;

Item being sold/bought: devastator & Dvd OP (NOT SOLD)

Original thread link: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=23470087

Date of transaction: March 14 and 29

Need advice on this forumer (Brian)...

OK here's the thing, I have recently deal with this forumer (Brian). Deal with him twice (both my mistake) in two different location.

The first Deal (Devastator)
Date of transaction: March 14-15 (not that sure but around that 2 days la)
Place: In front of Bank in front of IOI Puchong
Deal with him via lyn.. nego punya nego agreed to deal on rm120.
The day we met he negotiated and somehow we got to an agreement of rm100 due to he complain yang my devastator berabuklah, thisla that la... etc.
BUT that day I left the instructions behind so he gave me rm80, and did mention that he will bank in rm20 to my maybank account.
Still waiting for the rm20 to be in my maybank account but still not in yet.

Send SMS but still waiting for him to reply.....

The 2nd Deal (DVD OP)
Date of transaction: March 29
DVD OP Picture: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6922/01042009132.jpg
Venue: PJ SS14 - A shopping complex with GYM in front of McDonald's

My second mistake was dealing with the same person...
Ok this time, he did not manage to buy the DVD OP BUT he "patahkan" or in simple words he broke the right leg of the DVD OP.
This is how the incident happen.
At first macam orang lain... kalau nak beli dia cakap dia nak test dulu. Reason dia cakap dia nak test whether the thing is in good condition.
So I let him try, try punya try.... PRAK.. he broke the OP.

When the thing happen
1) He did not want to buy
2) He did not want to pay for damages
3) He did not want to help to search for parts

Solution dia....
1) Dia nak tukar with another item (with conditions)
2) Sell to him the OP at less than rm150 - due to the thing is already faulty.
3) Give him the OP so that he can help to sell. Then revenue will be shared.

At the same time, dia dah DEAL dengan satu buyer via Ebay (dia cakap).
1) So, as u know that now the OP has already become a CACAT OP.
2) And the best thing about this deal is that the buyer has already paid for the item and awaiting for the item to be delivered.
3) He contacted the buyer and request for refund BUT the buyer doesn't want to!!
4) The buyer bengang and ask for pictures (as proof)
5) So later.. he contacted me and ask for pictures to help him solve his case...
6) I posted the pic... and showed the defact/tempat patah.
7) Dia tak puas hati... and ask me to lepak with him and discuss on how to help him to solve his problem!!

So fellow forumers... what do u think if u kena the same thing???

For me...
1) aku dah kena tiau... 2 kali plak tu...
2) tension
3) lagi tension sebab dah la rugi, OP patah, duit tak dapat, pastuh dia asyik sms/call sebab nak suruh aku settlekan prob dia!!

Want PROOF???... (Will attach k...)

Hope to get feedback...

This post has been edited by hamsterz: Apr 13 2009, 05:19 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(apis @ Apr 13 2009, 04:52 PM)
So,do u want the buyer to refund u?The 1st mistake is u deal with the same person.U know that  the person bad attitude coz not refund the remaining balance.I think he want to take advantage against u.
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Yup as i did mention before... it was a mistake at the first place.. when dealing with him....
2nd.. i did not check his history...
3rd... this thread is created due to i had enough of his actions...


P/S - Forgot to add that I have already posted the user guide.

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post Apr 13 2009, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(Seaedge @ Apr 13 2009, 05:18 PM)
yes, pm whoulove to come and explain his side of story. but i do afraid his longwinded explaination like the previous case with shaun. reserve comment until both side story is heard.
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yup.. already did both pm/sms him about the thread.

Will wait for his reply on this matter...
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:21 PM

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Alo geng.. 1stly I would personally like to thank all of you for the comments that you have made... coz based on your comments some got share the same experience that I have been through with Brian...

Guys do keep in mind that the main reason I created this thread is that I want to share my BAD experience that I had with Brian....
- NOT to ask for him to repay (no use one coz with this type of people u surely wont get one...) tapi kalau nak bayar aku lagi suka.. hehe..
- NOT to tutup his periuk nasi
- NOT to simply bad mouth him

BUT what I type was based on what I personally experience from him coz seriously I myself cannot tahan already. Dah lah beli devastator aku kat price yg ciput giler... pastu tanak kasi balance lagi... Pastu patahkan OP aku (tak pasal2 aku tak dapat nak jual OP tu)... last skali... almost every day he will call / sms me for me to help him to solve his problem!!! tension beb aku cakap ngan korang...

As a muslim, he himself should know that nowadays Allah (God Almighty) will simply pay cash one!! Especially to the bad people...
AND he should know better that "what he did to me or other fellow forumers will give an IMPACT on his life sooner or later".. coz I myself belief in what we muslim call (Qada' & Qadar)

Lastly I really hope that he will provide us some feedback...

Salam

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 07:40 PM)
Bro and any other toys buyer / seller..

when COD, the best way is ;

1. buyer check the condition
2. ask the seller to transform..don't tell me u don't know how to transform the toys if u really a collector. Don't give an excuse you are not a collector if u willing to pay for more than RM300 just for a toys 
3. after it has been transform, buyer need to check back the condition. becoz sometime the broken / repaired parts are visible in robot / alternate mode
4. buyer satisfied with the condition (as described before COD)..pay and CHOw  sweat.gif

TS..dah nasib Bro..patutnya kalau ko sendirik yg transform takkan jadik camni kan?
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yupz betol tu... ha... asalnyer aku sendiri pon tak penah transform op tu... so aku tengok dia macam pro (dari lagak bahasa dia) so dia transform la OP tu and last2 PRAK... ati aku pon PRAK..

QUOTE(richard0304 @ Apr 13 2009, 08:13 PM)
lucky me nearly dealt with him.. 
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hehe lucky u, bro...

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 08:54 PM)
I am eager to see saper-ko-cinta's explanation.
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saper ko cinta??

QUOTE(tanos @ Apr 13 2009, 09:17 PM)
phew... almost dealt with him....
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yupz becareful with certain forumers... but in reality not all forumers are orang jahat... most of us just want to create network, friends, share what we have with others or just making some pocket money to ease the pain of paying the bills

QUOTE(myboo_1988 @ Apr 13 2009, 09:51 PM)
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this is my story..i deal with him before..
i met him few times..and i finally kno him
after all i heard alot of collector said that he is the one who bought or scalped from alot of collector item and then play until rosak after that he try to con ppl and sell it

situation 1
he buy bumble bee hasbro for rm 50?  because its was close fren ok ok..after that go home he complain..the tf is not misb after all he was open n played with it..he ask for refund because he claim that misb is tampal balik wan..although it is misb bcz i was ther with him...

situation 2
my bad luck..in ebay i sold to him my limited edition megatron rm 150
we agree the item is sold at that price..he nego nego say habuk la..box dent this and tht in the rm 110..

and i saw back his thread..all this while we scalp alot of tf in tru holding 2-3 box...with my frens frm hasbro help now he is selling with 10%extra price..
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bro... thanks for sharing your experience... hope that other people will learn from what we experience and will NOT experience it 1st hand by themselves!!

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 09:54 PM)
I noticed that too. I will be not surprised if there r more than 10 victims in this thread.
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yah true bro... if sape kena... kena make sure tak kena lagi!!..

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 13 2009, 09:58 PM)
TS,
Please ask MOD to keep their eyes on this matter
He's done lot of dealing here already & some of them came with bad experience shakehead.gif

MOD, better warn him & give dispute tag OR better, ban him for good
Why? Because, this is not the first time i heard about his bad attitude
not to mention selling KO version to someone, if i'm not mistaken

He like to nego from people kaw-kaw to get what he desired
but when come to selling, his prices are stiff & unbelievable
claimed that he bought at that price somemore (Oh Really?)

myboo_1988
he used the same tactic to hamsterz
claimed ada habuk la yada yada yada & got his desired price
how the hell you confirmed the deal in PM with certain price & complaint somemore yada yada yada to get lower prices than what've you agreed?
WTF??

INI MCM PUNYA WORANG ADA KA?
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surely.. will update the MOD about this... ,many thanks for your concern on my bad exp bro... really appreciate it.

QUOTE(kerberos09 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:11 PM)
lol... dealt with dis guy before also... never wanna deal with him again ( i heard he got gilfren cun maa) haha~
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Wa orang camni pon ade gf chun ke.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(richard0304 @ Apr 13 2009, 10:14 PM)
I nearly dealt with him before. last time he wanted to buy my deep striker, but too fussy so we didnt deal. he said it's for his friend, but I have to give him the deep striker 1st before he bring it to his friend and let him check. if ok then only pay me. Then I ask him why not ask his friend to deal straight with me, he gave a lot of shitty reasons which i already forgot.. and yes he also kept on bargaining the price with me until very dirt cheap..  shakehead.gif  then he thought maybe i scared he cheat my deep striker away, then started bragging about his good reputation in lelong, say he has lots of good feedbacks blah blah blah... Then he gave me a link to his lelong feedback, but when i click it the link was invalid  doh.gif  doh.gif
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ha'a la... yupz its true what u say about this fella... when he bargain.. he really bargain one... BUT if u want to bargain pon... be reasonable la.. kadang2 we oso want to make some cash kan... btw i agree that the link is not workable... kalau tak pecaya click la..

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 13 2009, 10:15 PM)
my story:
i've dealt my tfu blaster wit him before ... seriously, clearance price... i put rm60 before.. he PMed, nego after nego, we agreed rm50 ...

then the COD day ... met him.. and you know what... he asked for nego some more... rm40 ... that was even before checking it!! i was really annoyed!! i asked, it's firm.. already agreed in PM before COD!!

then i asked him to check 1st... LUCKY HIM!! i forgot to include the manual!! it's BIB stuff, complete wit everything.. but the manual was at home, forgot to include in the box...

so he bargained, he pay rm40 1st.. then after got the manual, RM5 later... somehow he wanted to nego for RM45 pulak ....

arghh.. i was so fedup!! so i said ok laa.. RM40, then i promised him to pos the manual to his address ...

after a week i think, he confirmed got the manual ... i asked for the balance... he said later ...
and seriously, his later is demm late!! took about a week!! that too after few SMSes !!

arghh!! tension i ... huh!!

lucky i avoided dealing wit him again... he wanted to buy my air rid primal ... and asked me to bring before agreeing any price ... he said wanna check the item 1st.. it's for his cousin he said (anybody got same reason like this before?) ..

i asked if wanna meet, better in subang.. im not that free to go far ... he insisted again and again to meet at amcorp... again, he's annoying me ...

thank god later my air rid primal got reserved by serious buyer.. non fussy.. and also a fren at transformers.com.my ...

TRUST ME... whoulove IS FUSSY AS HELL!!! he will do anything to get as low price as he want!!!

be ethical laa dude ... already agree the price and COD also want to nego kaa? we dont have time to layan such request ...
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wahhh macam semua orang had the same experiece je ni?? rclxub.gif

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 10:26 PM)
next time then we deal with his GF  blush.gif
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hehehe.... tak boleh nanti jatuh hati pula... hehe wub.gif

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post Apr 14 2009, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
aiseh..patut ko ajak Azrin tu pegi COD ngan mamat tu  tongue.gif

* Bro..gas tank tu memang bukan mudah2 blh patah...aku rase memang die pulas bukan tekan
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bro... about the gas tank part, what he did was he put too much strength when inserting back the leg part... then suddenly prak!! adeehhhh..

QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 13 2009, 11:41 PM)
this kind of buyer really make me sick...
this kind of buyer dont deserve any deal...
this kind of buyer never stick to his words...
this kind of buyer.. i feel like want to punch his face..  cool2.gif
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true2... so next time beware of this type of forumer... bahaya dude

QUOTE(dlight @ Apr 13 2009, 11:50 PM)
hmmm and he contacted me to buy a couple of TFs. Thanks guys for the heads up. Will definately hold off any transaction with him, at least until he clears EVERYTHING up over here.

edited: pmed him about this thread and asked him to drop by. lets see if he even bothers to clarify things.
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yupz... just like u.. im still waiting for his response...

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Apr 13 2009, 11:52 PM)
Deal with whoulove before along with his GF and i have to admit his GF is quite a hottie. he's so damn lucky. well, that's about his GF.

me have no personal vendetta against whoulove. dealt with him like 4 times. haven't heard from him for a long time now.

1st deal :

He bought from me a vintage Alien figure. that time i'm selling it for RM 20. so we exchanged PMs and agreed on RM 15. so i went down to COD with him along with Endless who happened to COD with for loose Titanium Soundwave too.

So i saw him bagaining with Endless as he said the figure was loose and got scratches. then when it comes to me, he inspected the figure and ask for more price reduction until RM 5 as he claimed this item was old and got many scratches and playwear. so we agreed for RM 10. i was quite frustrated that time as i think RM 10 only worth my fuel going there for COD. well, i let it go.

2nd deal :

This time he bought from me 2 vintage Predator figures and 1 alien figure. i'm selling those for RM 15 each. and heck, we nego in PM and agreed upon RM 10 each. so when we met and he inspected the figures, he asked for RM 5 each. owh heck. i felt like i'm very stupid that time but i let those figures to him for RM 25.

3rd deal :

This time is for my Transformers FAB Frenzy. i put it on ebay that time for RM 30. he contacted me and agreed on the price (again? lol) so he wanted me to end the sale on ebay as soon as he bidded the toy. well, that time i was a noob and didn't know i can end it quickly so i only managed to change the end date until left only one day. the problem is, got other people also bid until RM 60 and eventually he won it. so we meet and he asked me to sell it for the initial price which is RM 30. and still asked for me to discount further as it is a loose figure but this time me buat kepala batu. so i sold to him RM 30 since i've agreed to that price too in the 1st place. i'm a man who kept my word, not the kind of guy who changes his like changing a napkin.

4th deal @ final deal :

i'm selling off my Transformers micromasters Rayden. this time, i brought a friend who also a past victim of his scheme. cut story short, as usual, the best part, bargaining process. with the presence of my friend, he couldn't bargained like he always did before probably too shy in front of his victim. plus i'm sticking to the price and be kepala batu. and in the end he couldn't get the discount plus cannot ask for more as this figures in a very perfect condition.

Whoulove@Bryan, i have no personal vendetta towards u. seriously. i enjoy dealing with u. i can give discount but u have to be logical too in asking for discount. RM 5 or RM 10 are still ok but until RM 30 to 50 is way too much already. i've heard a lot about u and i keep on being silent about it. asking for discount after agreeing a price is an unethical way of doing business. i might be able to tolerate it but until i heard from a friend of mine who being cheated by u, i just can't keep quiet anymore. u can be a friend, i'm really sure of that. But in business, u're just creating a mess out of yourself.
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wahhhh confirm arr chick dia memang chiun.. hehe... pandai gak dia bawak awek dia yang cun melecun tuh masa COD... yelah... dah tentu kalau dia nego dengan seller.. the seller must say no... coz... got beautiful maiden infront of him... hehe

but as kamkam mention as a friend he quite a ok person... but when business..... aiyoo kepala pon boleh pecah woooo

QUOTE(jing_kohkoh @ Apr 13 2009, 11:57 PM)
if not mistaken the victim friend whom kamkam brought to meet saper-ko-cinta (skc) bought this thing from skc without being informed/warned that is a KO, at regular Alternator price.
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saper-ko-cinta, the TF circle is very small, news spreads very rapidly.
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Adeeehhh sedihnyer beli mahal tapi dapat KO version....

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Apr 14 2009, 12:00 AM)
yup. it was William7. i can tolerate if he asked for discount but not cheat. this is too much already.
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la William7 ke yang kena tipu??? wooww dasat tol mamat ni.

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 06:18 AM)
sighh~

same tactics everytime???

already agree on price before COD ...
then on COD day, want to nego some more????
seriously cheapskate and ANNOYING!!
i think if this ever happened again wit other buyer, bugging you to give more discount after agreeing on a price before...
just left the scene immediately, no need to layan such bargaining ... im sure somebody else will be interested to buy our stuff ...

i agree wit you guys comments on his stuff... if it our stuff, always want cheap2...
but if it his stuff, will give so many reasons why he cant nego lower... bought expensive laa.. cant get back modal laa...
i still remember i want his revoltech before, just nego a few bucks pun also cannot...  doh.gif
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as u can see... i think almost all the people who commented about brian tells the same story especially while dealing with him...

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:05 AM)
He logged in last night BUT don't dare to come & explain? WTFish!?????

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Giler penakut mamat ni,
rasa nk belasah je kalau aku jumpa personally
kamkam, mamat ni bleh makan tak? (kalau aku sorang la)
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hehehe... wah madstone already heated up on the issue...

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 08:42 AM)
hehehe.... abg maddie sgt garang laa... hehehe... WTFish??? tongue.gif

met him before... around 5'5 to 5'6 only.. not so tall ... quite pleasant looking dude... he is friendly i must say, but maybe because of the 'niat' ..
from his baby face look, maybe around 24-26 years old ... fluent in BM as well, no chinese slang... owhh.. he has gorgeous gf? i hope he will take care of her well ... what if she knew his bf doing something like this... will be a very bad rapport for him later..
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yup true... he is just around that height... 27 years of age.. yup kalau aku jadi aweks dia pon aku malu beb!!

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 08:55 AM)
Just imagine, kalau org patahkan TF kita depan mata pastu taknak bayar gantirugi? WT Fish!

hamsterz punya DVD OP dah patah disebabkan mamat ni
kalau aku, mmg kat situ jugak aku patahkan lengan dia balik vmad.gif
mcm mana tank minyak kat paha OP dia bleh patahkan
benda tu kan tekan je? Ke dia tekan dgn kaki?
slow-slow la tekan
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hehe... ganas beb....

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 09:05 AM)
yup.. if it's obviously he broke the stuff in front of our eyes.. pastu dont want to take the responsibility, sape2 pun berbulu...
i hope he will pay the full amount to hamster ... be a man, take the responsibility ...
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yups true bro.. biasanya... kalau dah patahkan barang orang... ganti la balik... kan kan kan
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At last reply gak mamat ni... pendekkan cete bila aku baca aku cam nak tergelak... beb... kalau kalau part bercerita / mengarang wa mengaku lu memang mantap... oklah... ni reply aku....

1) sal price devastator tu... kalau lu boleh paham bm... wa cakap rm 100.. ko bayar rm80.. so ko still hutang aku lagi rm20...
2) sal OP tu... lu nak cete apapon lu cete la... papepon mende dah patah... sungguhpon ko nak bayar.... ko cakap... offer yg paling tinggi pon.. ko cakap tak cecah pon harga aku nak offer OP tu,...
3) pastu bro... yang lu nak sumpah2 buat ape... kalau cakap2 pon tak guna sebab ape2pon ape yang dah belaku tuhan je tau..
4) kalau lu nak cakap wa pelakon... hehe.. cakap arr bro... basically ape yang aku type sebab aku dah cam tak leh blah beb...
5) kalau ko ade baca comment dak2 ni... just amik pengajaran jelah k...
6) and to sum up... kalau ko leh membaca... aku buat thread ni bukan untuk condem ko... but to simply remind people about people like u...

Salam
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Brian, aku baru balik dari meeting and tak tahan baca comment ko arr bro....

1st ko nak cakap aku sal tembak ke, hape ke, etc.. cakap arr Brian... sebab part2 menaip ni ko memang no.1, Btw.. dasat accusation ko kat aku.. tapi takpe ko nak cakap, cakap jelah... wa tada hal punya... sebab papepon tuhan je tau actions ko... Sebab orang type cam ko ni memang type orang yang tanak mengalah punya.. hehe...

2ndly... sal issue habuk tuh pon wat lagi arr nak buat aku nak teglak abis....

Last.... I have a question... IF the SAME THING happen to you.... If i broke the TF that you want to sell during COD, How would you personally settle this??? What would you do??? How would personally feel about it??

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QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 11:53 AM)
price set by demands ... if it sought after, price can soar like crazy too...
the issue here, is being ethical ... pay for the damages you have done.. then it's clear... for DVD OP, broken part.. im sure no collectors would want it, unless for kitbashing or spare parts ... pay him half of the price as compensation ...

for devastator, rm100... crazyy cheapp dude!!!!
how come didnt sell it to me?!!!
im sure somebody else wanna buy it even higher price than that...
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Bro... my bad bro... kalau aku tau kesudahan dia camni... I should have sell it to you bro...

Btw if i deal with anyone via ebay/Lowyat/Mudah...
1) I will base on 1st come 1st serve.... i dah confirm dengan dia dulu...
2) I wont sell rosak items.. but for Brians case... dia nak beli... BUT he offered me to buy the OP at a price of rm100 or lower.. WTF apa ni.... dah lah rosakkan OP tu... pastuh nak beli murah... Kesimpulannye memang aku takkan jual kat dia...
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QUOTE(zeroglyph @ Apr 14 2009, 12:18 PM)
good choice, really. let him answer that eBay buyer of his.
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eh baru aku teringat.... kalau ade buyer mesti ade deal/link to the sold Dvd Op kan... if have can you give us the link so that we can actually know that the deal is a real deal... IF u know what i mean..

QUOTE(orestes @ Apr 14 2009, 12:22 PM)
yup... i have tfu superion and bruticus ... so devastator also in my wanted combiner list... and hearing you sold to him at rm80!!! arghhh!!!!!
if the buyer actually exist laa..
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Alamak.. bro sedih arr plak dengar cete ko... but papepon all the best on searching the Devastator.,.. btw its not rm80.. its rm100... uwaa...... cry.gif
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Firstly please do not use the word bro with me... coz it seems that ur NOT..

Adoi bestnye abang kita berkempen... sesekali macam itu politician la... btw Brian, if u r finished with your election campaign hope that you can answer the question that I have asked just now...

Question 1:
eh baru aku teringat.... kalau ade buyer mesti ade deal/link to the sold Dvd Op kan... if have can you give us the link so that we can actually know that the deal is a real deal... IF u know what i mean..

So can you provide the link for the deal OR there is no such link at all??

Question 2:
Last.... I have a question... IF the SAME THING happen to you.... If i broke the TF that you want to sell during COD, How would you personally settle this??? What would you do??? How would personally feel about it??


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QUOTE(whoulove @ Apr 14 2009, 03:36 PM)
this is the link if u want.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=230332041833
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i understand how u felt. i felt the pain and angry that u felt also , i think i do kept telling u that . but come think back hamster! if u are in my side, and u r just testing the item,, and sudenly it spoilt , is it fair to buyer ? im not buying a new item here , pls Correct the situation ! if we go shop and buy new things , we touch we patah it , ya we pay for it.

jsut let me try ask u a simple scenario ,

when u buy a 2nd hp from a seller , the seller claimed it was ok , but when u test on the spot, the phone has no reception or cant Turn ON after u placed yr simkad in !!???? so buyer that test the phone shud b FULLY blame on it ?

this is like a grey situation / chicken and egg situation, seller knws that item was ok and good. but buyer proved that the item was infact got problem ! now tell me frens , if u try the phone and the phone got problem , are u telling me that u WILL buy the phone , despite it was tested to prove that it was problem ???

hamster ,
im not trying to accuse u that u r selling a spoilt item. tats not what i want and plan to do. but , i really tested it and transform it nicely and properly. and from the way u see me transform ( without looking at manual ) u shud knw that i know how to transform it.

u r the 1 tat say , maybe da nasib mmg the ting wants to happen , or every item when reach a point it will broken , its like elastic limit stage. at a point wear tear any thing will patah , eventually maybe for this case it just happens that it was the time it patah... im not accusing yr things are worn out.

n u yrself SAID that u never transform the fig before. n u dono the condition. u bought till now u never transform it. if u tell me that u have transformed it before and everythings fine , then only i transform got problem maybe then i can say im fully to be blame., but u yrself said that the fig bought till now no one has transformed it before. how do u know it wont spoilt when after u buy it ???
i just want to know SHOULD I BE FULLY BLAME for it ???

u yrself even agreed for us to see how we cud work things out by sharing the lost and or sell me at a price that u think u wud agree.. but then u decline and yet im being blame for it ??
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1) Waa...dasat2... u really are a true reseller brian... buy from me and sell back for rm262 plus an addition of rm10 for the delivery.. hehe
BTW... where did u get the picture of the DVD OP??? Is it yours??? Wahhhh IF u have then sacrifice your op then give it to the seller la...

2) As a writer u memang gempaks... sayin this and that (just like a true politician... wow) BUT it seems that u are not able to answer my question... as i asked u how would u feel if the same thing happen to you... what would u do?? itu je...

3) RM150 ke RM200 ke... i dun wan to sell.. u c... if u nak bayar ganti rugi.. bayar jela.. kalau tanak dah le... yang penting... the sole purpose of the thread creation is to notify people bout ur doings... u c....

4) Apa2pon GOD Almighty has given u a beautiful brain.... so bak kata Nabil Lu pikir la sendiri....


Added on April 14, 2009, 5:13 pmFrom your ebay thread (http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&item=230332041833)

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Read this -->> Picture is the actual item. What you see is what you will get. Only thing that the MATRIX is kept inside chest .

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post Apr 14 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(whoulove @ Apr 14 2009, 06:05 PM)
hamster ,
I already told u in beginning that the true is im buying yrs to replace as my collections. Yrs looks better than mine . therefore im selling off mine in order to get yrs . im not reseller here. N I never force ppl to buy my ebay item for rm262 , his the one that bidded . and for yr info the agreed price was not 262 . I sold him 250 as tat was my initial price and he email me before another bidder did.

Plus now , I would like to compensate him back for a damage op leg, I wud b looking at only selling him about rm150 or less depends on negotiation with him.
So if I buy with u at rm200 , ill loose money of atleast rm50 and above. Isn’t it fair for u , me and every one ?? and yet u say all that.
By me explaining my standing …etc , u say im a good politicians la a power lawyer la…blabla… k la dude. I don wan to explain no more… what ever u wan u ad achieve doing it. U wanted the world to know my person , and purposely to spoilt name and repo… and so u have success in doing it. Look at the current damages impart on me ? is it not good enuff ? that u r not satisfy yet ? even when I offer to pay for the MP OP , u still don wan to sell it to me , u rather keep it , and let my name busuk… so u have successfully did it . wat else do u wan dude ?


Added on April 14, 2009, 6:21 pmFrens / members ,
Come on la… wat ever I do is wrong wat ever I say is wrong . wat do u all actually wan me to do now ? u all kept saying pay pay pay the damages . did I say I do not want to pay ????

Did I say / do anything that trying to run away from paying ? and for yr info , it is not because of this existence of this thread then only I want to pay. I wanted to pay even the beginning of last 2 weeks !!! coz a small mistake like this and u all judge me like this , and in the end hamster keep ignore me and doesn’t want me to buy / pay but YET im being blame for it ???? WTF ?

U guys, … if really tats wat madstones wish and every ones wish to banned me then let the STAFF / mod / founder…who ever in charge and let them judge me , if im found to be really wrong and I should be banned for good , ok im fine with it, and I accept the punishment. With that , if it will soothens and make u all happier , then ill leave it to the staff / mod. I personally believe , if the mod/ staff /admin is professional enuff , and based on my feedback and what im trying to be a nice person to sort things out here, and still im being target as a criminal then… I have nothing to say… that will also show how good / bad the mod/staff/admin do their job. Let them assess.
I really cant be continuing reading this thread and typing and keeping replying and explaining , in the end !!!! yet im the criminal , and I wont be accepted back or wont recognize for my apologysss then im sorry to all , I have to quit replying this thread.

U can say that I chicken out / pussx or what ever … but I really don’t have time to keep replying and be in front of computer… just for this case I have spent the whole day time , not able to finish my work/job . I do not want coz of this topic , n I will get fire by my company. So to end the story…

If any of u feels that I have unintentionally offended u by wat I say and do … then pls forgive me sincerely .
If anyone feels that I have outstanding money that I owe any of u , pls pm me, ill resolve it soon.
If anyone feels that I am still able to accept as a fren , also do pm me , so we cud have a better frenship , and let the bygones be bygones…
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wahh panjang nyer cerita... layankan...

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 14 2009, 06:56 PM)
Bro,
Before u go for good, vanish biggrin.gif

The pics u posted in your eBay page are actually not hamsterz DVD OP BUT you mentioned, it's the actual item
how come you scammed people with all the lies?

Actually you are selling hamsterz DVD OP with your picture in eBay, my guessing is, is it your MP01? Your DVD OP? hmm.gif

See what you are trying to do???
Scam people in eBay & in LYN also
Posted your DVD OP picture to sell hamsterz DVD OP
Why not you just sell your DVD OP then????
I bet you won't sell it, won't you?
are you REALLY want to sell your DVD OP instead of hamsterz DVD OP at the first place?

What about the broken DVD OP picture that u asked hamsterz to send it to u?
What is it for actually?
To prove to your buyer that the DVD OP is broken & want to sell hamsterz DVD OP at the end
I thought you wanted to sell yours????
How come you showed the buyer hamsterz's DVD OP IF you really want to sell yours??? WTFish!??? GOSH!!!!!!!!

whoulove
this is not let bygones be bygones kinda thing
if people forgive you, they surely forget about the past
the thing is, people still remember the details about your wrongdoings
so, it's loud & clear, who's the culprit now

hamsterz is not trying to give u bad repo what so ever, come on laaaa
he just want to ask, look at his thread title WTAsk about this forumer whoulove
so, people who experienced bad things with whoulove came forward
till now, i have doubt you will ever understand your own modus operandi
do this do that & at the end trying to defend yourself & later say sorry bla bla bla yada yada yada

BTW, his remaining RM20 already bank in or not?  shakehead.gif
one more thing about your bad attitude, if you still didn't realize
you know you want to COD & yet you just simply didn't prepare your money to COD
do u know what is COD when orestes asked you earlier?
gosh! this kinda guy made me sick & want to throw up

i think most of you victims here, wanted 1 thing, for you to be ban for good & for future collector(s) not to fall into your trap again
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Whoa.. madstone already fired up...he he he

QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Apr 14 2009, 08:29 PM)
you are one sick case la

you broke his item then you offered to pay him at a discounted price of RM 150

try do that at  Sogo after breaking some Bohemian ware.

You should pay him the full price of the item/
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true bro... nasib baik dia tak buat kat kedai.. kalau tak lagi dia rugi

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 14 2009, 08:48 PM)
i think he's trying to say TS want to sell problem OP DVD to him seems the gas tank should be not easy to brake since it's a push button to release the lock of OP leg
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betol... memang peliklah kalau part tu yang rosak... brian ko memang dasat dude..

QUOTE(apis @ Apr 14 2009, 08:58 PM)
Ts,how do u want to settle this problem?This matter will drag further is not yet settle.
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yup... i will conclude all this pening2 thing... many thanks for your concern bro...

QUOTE(kyagami @ Apr 14 2009, 08:59 PM)
i think there's some confusion here...

whoulove wants to buy that OP for RM150 right? but TS wants him to pay RM150 for the damages he made right?  hmm.gif

if that is the case.. whoulove, would u pay him RM150 for the damages u made??

as a nice responsible collector/buyer, show your responsible and pay him the damages u made. end of story
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kyagami... what I want is just some justice.. if u say damages... IF a normal/ethical person when he broke something he will surely pay the full amount to cover the owners losses.. NOT to nego or finding reasons to back himself up... thats the usual way of solving a accident case..

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 14 2009, 09:03 PM)
TS..sebenarnya sape yg transform benda ni jadik camni??ko ke whoulove?
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takde pun dlm ORI thread ko jual DVD OP?  hmm.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry23470087
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abang sarjan, yang transform tu si Brian bang... sal item dalam thread... dulu aku ade letak.. skejap je.. tapi since benda dah rosak.. aku deletekan je.. wat sedih & sakit mata aku memandang je...

QUOTE(tanos @ Apr 14 2009, 09:34 PM)
it was there before, i remember it (the DVD OP), maybe he has taken it out..... well, already broken, how to sell........ i've dealt wiff Hamsterz, a good and awesome seller..... bought a lot of stuff, even gave me free Henkei BB some more.... thumbup.gif
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yup, tanos pon tau...hehe.. bro tanos ni.. siap blanje aku makan beb masa COD.. thanks sangat2 especially on the dinner and the advice that u gave..

QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Apr 14 2009, 09:49 PM)
Oo..actually i just want to know what's the 1st price TS trying to sell the OP
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Owh rm230 bang... tapi nego punya pasal.. wa letak la rm200.. amacam murah tak???

QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Apr 14 2009, 09:54 PM)
he has chinese look, fluent in BM and only average asian size. no need to bertumbuk. discuss it here only.
bro, i've said before and i'm gonna say it again. i don't have any personal vendetta against u. yes, i'm quite annoyed with the your way of doing business but what past is past. i let it be already.

bro, if u're the guilty party here, then just admit it and pay the damage. i'm not on anyone side here. also i do not come here just to badmouth u and ur reputation. since people asked me about u then i just answered.

next time bro, if u wanna buy an item from anyone, and just to avoid this kind of things from happening again, i suggest u ask the seller, in detail about the item condition. dusty or not, loose joints or not, and so on. by doing so, u can imagine the item condition and estimate the price u wanted to pay. it is that simple.
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kamkam.. i agree with you.. tak payah bertumbuk2... ingat time macam budak sekolah ke???
paling penting pasni Brian try settlekan ape2 yang patut dengan sape2 yang ko penah deal via LYN/ebay/etc


Added on April 15, 2009, 12:26 amSalam to everyone,

Wahhh baru 2 hari sudah jadi kekecohan ka?... firstly I would like to thank all of you for your concern on the case that I have brought up to yesterday...

Before I know such thing as a dispute thread, aku sedih sangat, coz what actually happen has really affected me deeply!! Macam ade batu kat hati aku ni!!

What has happen before was so painful to remember, pastuh dengan Brian punya character lagi la aku pening.... Pening sangat2...

BUT when i read through all the feedbacks from the Lowyat community, most of the it are not that great to read and some are positive feedback...

As I said before, my intentions are clear.. I created the thread NOT to:

As posted in here -->> (http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=997008&view=findpost&p=25104368)

- NOT to ask for him to repay (no use one coz with this type of people u surely wont get one...) tapi kalau nak bayar aku lagi suka.. hehe..
- NOT to tutup his periuk nasi
- NOT to simply bad mouth him

What I really hope that after this incident, hopefully there will be no more cases like what I have experience...

And to all noobs (me included) just keep in mind that:
1) Do some research on the background of the person who you deal with
2) Add a "ONCE BROKEN CONSIDERED SOLD" clause on your thread coz u know why.. hehe
3) To the Buyers, please pay the cash according to the amount that has been agreed by both parties. Don't go and negotiate when COD!! Not a good thing to do!!
4) And Sellers please make sure the item that you want to sell in a proper condition (HABUKLESS, etc, ehehe)
5) Ensure the originality or the authenticity of the item before u make the purchase (but not to fussy ha...)


For Brian,

1) Based on what happen, as the thing has already happen... Aku nak cakap banyak pon tak guna gak...
2) You already admit and responded to all my enquiries..
3) Nak kata aku OK?? Well actually NO but aku malas nak panjangkan cerita... buat pening je... rclxub.gif
4) I hope that you can settle your cases with the LYN Forumers. Coz bila aku baca kat thread ni... memang ko ade history dengan mereka...
5) Ingatlah bahawa kalau ko tak settlekan hal sesama insan... nanti ko akan tersangkut disana kelak..
6) Lastly, as a 27 yr old guy (hope im correct about this)... aku malas nak cakap pape sebab... aku rasa ko dah cukup besar untuk memikirkan mana yang baik dan mana yang tidak.

To all, Thank you.. happy trading via online (LYN, ebay, mudah, etc) and have a great and positive day ahead!!

Salamz


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post Apr 15 2009, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(supernothing @ Apr 15 2009, 11:30 AM)
dah selesai ke?

Lain kali nak cod ajak laa aku. Hehe..

dia ni budak scholar kut hamster, dia nak revenge kat kau ni. Hehe...
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hehe ok bro... tqtqtq.. btw scholar tu ape?? aku tak paham arr bro..

QUOTE(UNDICI @ Apr 15 2009, 03:17 PM)
wakakkaka whoulove ka?...

yea i was selling.. /deal with him 1 time for armada sideways.... dah jumpa tuk COD>.  minta diskaun pulak... before dat dah agree on d final price  mad.gif ...

ever since then.. i totally ignore any PM/sms form him  tongue.gif such a pain d ass dude
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yupz bila mau deal... brian tend to nego up to the price that we oso jadi pening rclxub.gif

and he is a very persistant person... he will call/sms/pm u till u provide him a reply..

Well thats brian for u
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Wahh.. so many comments.... appreciate everyone for the comments made

My feedback on this is...

Brian just pay me the rm20..... for the devastator

The DVD OP.. as i mention previously... IF he feels that he's responsible then by all means just pay me an amount that is sufficient to cater for the damages done!

If NOT the just pay up for the RM20 then done deal...


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QUOTE(kent8541 @ Apr 18 2009, 06:06 PM)
I also deal with tis fellow before... trade my transcanning OP BIB with titanium megatron G2 loose

during the trade,i din check the megatron as he also din check my op..i trusted him..so when i got home and open it only i notice that the megatron had a broken arm..so i sms him few times to trade bck my op but he kept ignore me & denied about the broken arm...kept giving me excuses like it was fine before he trade with me,it wasn't broken by him(was initially frm another seller), he's the manager of SP Setia,very busy,a lot of stress..
after many long discussion in the end,he agreed to exchange it bck with Devastator KO.. mad.gif vmad.gif

after tat i never wanna deal with him again..
so beware anyone wit tha name Brian,around 28 yrs old,driving a red aeroback proton saga (2008ver 38k one)
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Sorry to hear bout that bro.. sad to hear bout that too... but u knowlah... when u deal with him.. things will surely happen.. and the things happen usually are not good to hear...

but how was the devastator??

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QUOTE(kent8541 @ Apr 20 2009, 11:03 PM)
the devastator is ok but doesn't worth it ..since it's a KO version & low grad plastic was used, so i din expect lo..
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yupz true arr... any KO version isn't worth that much... but lucky u atleast got sometin out of the deal..

QUOTE(Ashstar @ Apr 20 2009, 11:18 PM)
Bro, mind if I ask did he trade you the crappy WST KO Devvy? I've dealt with him in 07 (under whoulove ebay name) and yes, he'a been haggling during COD since then. Same scenarion, agreed on price prior to meetup then asked for discount. Malas to layan so just knock off RM5 to get the deal over and done with, now this would be fine if it's an isolated case but up to current page I'm sure fellow members and mods should know better.

Anyway we kept in touch back then and he was whining bout not able to get the g1 size KO Devvy, kept pestering me to sell mine (which I got for like... RM20?  rolleyes.gif ) at cheap price. Didn't keep in touch much after that coz I don't have much things that'd interest him either.

Back on topic however, it's been said over and over again but even from a purely neutral point of view, topping up of RM20 for the classic Devvy is still needed since he didn't buy MP OP and of course compensation for the broken OP is required. There could be few ways to work things out:

- pay RM20 for Dev, compensate for boken OP
- don't pay RM20, but honor the other part of the agreement to buy OP at full price of RM230 (see that? No discount from agreed price. Learn to honor your words, at this stage you are putting your reputation and credibility as a (alleged) company manager on the line here)

Seriously, that's no rocket science to figure out. All of his suggestions to resolve the issue via his eBay sale is NOT an option that should be brought up in the first place. How could one expect a sincere seller to be inconvenient with such arrangement which clearly works against him? (ie. there's no telling if he'd just take the OP, sell it off and avoid contact now isn't it?)

As someone who knew you briefly and have dealt with you, I implore you to look at the issue at hand from a subjective point of view - hey after all the world does not revolve around you ya know? Learn to deal with people if you have even the slightest intention to survive in this society, learn to respect sellers by keeping to agreed dealing prices. Keeping up the selfish "must have it my way" attitude will not take you far in life.

Sorry for the long rant/view sharing, hope this had helped in anyway possible. Cheers fellow trans fans!  wink.gif
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true bro... if he is an honor person then at least he compensate on the loss that incurred... but u know him rite..

QUOTE(madstone @ Apr 21 2009, 09:24 AM)
Till now, there's no action against this guy? No dispute tag what so ever
WHY?
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itu arr.. where is da justice

QUOTE(Ashstar @ Apr 21 2009, 10:14 AM)
hamsterz may wanna PM the mods to follow-up on this thread? Anyway would the dispute tag do us any good if he's just gonna register another nick? Just wondering...
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pm'ed already... yup will follow up with the mod later... but thanks for the concern though

QUOTE(subang880 @ Apr 21 2009, 03:32 PM)
just remember his face will do...  blush.gif
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Ahahaha... bro... dahsyat arr u coz u got his pic... hehe..

just wanna ask where did u get his pic??


Added on April 21, 2009, 5:01 pm
QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Apr 21 2009, 04:57 PM)
the power of internet

more pics
this guy is a malay or wat??
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Waahhhh so many pics of him in it...

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Guys, today Brian has contacted me.... (just finish talking to him about 5 minutes ago..)

I would like to summarized what we have talked about.

Basically during the phone call that we had:

Talked about our problem & solutions

1) We settle the feud & he agreed that he will bank in tonight the RM20 for devastator deal.
2) As for the DVD Op case, he will assist to search the parts for the DVD Op. as agreed by both parties.

Basically what I will do is wait for his feedback... (As he will comment later.. so lets just wait for it)

Just to let you know that...

1) After all this has settled.. if he has done his part... from my end I kira settle BECAUSE I personally dah malas nak panjangkan cerita (Don't want this feud to go on.. waste time only)
2) I'm satisfied with the phone call, as we talked and lastly found solution.
3) Asked him whether he is a Muslim... and found out that he is a MUSLIM...


Added on April 22, 2009, 10:00 amChecked my M2U account and confirmed that I already receive the rm20 payment for the Devastator...



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