Dear hamster / members

1st of all thanks for smsing me and inform me about this dispute thread tat u have kindly created.


Oh My God bro…. you are really good at acting and I really have to salute u and give all my credits for u !! bro , if u dare and SWEAR ( sumpah in the name of god ) that all the story u were telling is true , then pls do it, I really wanna see what kind of person you are.


First of all ( before my long winded story of my PART , its up to u all who to listen )

Yes , I agree on 1st transaction ( devastator ) that :

-we agreed on rm100 and yes I paid you rm80 and to pay the balance once the manuals posted to me !

BUT u did not tell the other part of stories and u created the other way around.. or can I say how good u r at acting infront of me ! or infront of lyn ?

I remember clearly that when I told u can nego and can I see the devastator before I commit u say its FINE , can show and no problem blabla…. And the price at rm100 I also DID NOT FORCE you or HARD BEG or HARD bargain, and you say ok la bro its fine ill give you rm100 due to because this la and that… and your KIND enough to give me rm100, and to be frank with you , you are really GREAT actor , you showed how frenly you are and nice you are and how chin chai you are( before and after the deal ) ,… but now in the end you f@#* and STAB me at the back like this ? seriously I never even thought of this !

And u blame me for pushing yr price ? DUDE , if you have clearly state in yr description that yr collections are displayed and badly DUSTY , then ill know the initial condition and wont neg with u abit. And yr joints are slightly loose also , did u put that in yr posting ??? and u r blaming me back ? ( and on the event of our trade , u r so OK and nicely explaining and ok with me and understand what I felt …so on ,.. and now u push all the blame on me ??? )

I treat u as a fren and u even treat me as fren/ collector frens members…etc like what you say and now u turn behind me and say all this ?

And did u REMEMBER bro , you clearly said that if I take together with the MP OP ( which u brought together with yr devs ) u said u will give me cheaper price for the Devs at about rm80 or 90 ( I cant rmbr which price ) , BUT im very sure you say u will , if u really dare to say SUMPAH SWEAR that you never say this , then I really have to pray you , and thanks to Allah that he shows how great you are being a so called muslim ! ( sorry all , not trying to involve any religion issues here , but our fren here did mentioned to me before “ I tengok you pun muslim islam jugak, I tengok mum u islam tudung , jadi I pun tak nak la nak blame you…and blabla …” ( some sort like that, cant rmbr the actual phrase ) )

So , the rm20 supposingly which you voluntarily give me offer to discount out if I buy OP and you blame me for not returning your rm20 ??? and you are the ones that doesn’t want to sell yr OP and you put the blame on me ???? WTF ?



You are just taking this opportunity ( since I have another UNCORRECT dispute on me ) and tried to hentam me again . so to jeopardize or spoilt my name ?! why must do that bro ? u cud have the courtesy to give me a call and discuss with me first . did u even have the courtesy to even call me and ask me or talk to me / discuss first ???

What I can only see is that im the only one that keep trying to CALL YOU and discuss with u . But u keep ignoring me and pretend dono . and now u turn the story up side down ???


Bro Wan / Hamsterz , and fellow members :

Pls help to be judge here,

Wan, if u r gentleman enuff , why don let us arrange a time to meet up TOGETHER with 1 ( or 2 or a few ) of the participate and senior member of LYN ( preferably that has made a reply and point of view on this thread ) , and discuss this like a man/gentleman ??? lets face to face and talk and discuss things out and you can voice out and tell me infront of the senior member and I can talk and tell my view , let them be the one middle person and judge for this .. since u sound more louder in the topic than in the real life ?

I feel that if you are innocent / victim and want to clarify further , why must u afraid to meet up just for a cup of tea discussion ? plus all of us are staying in KL , we can easily meetup and talk and sort this things out ! I understand you might be VERY BUSY with work , but so do I , but yet if I can try to fork abit time out just to clarify this matter and to make u FEEL BETTER , why not ? n I believe those kind bros/members wud b kind enuff to spare sometime just to meet us up for a drink / chit chat and talk / discuss or be a middle person , IN THE END of the meetups , I don even mind to treat all frens/bros teh-tarik , no problem …

So are you comfortable in arranging this ? wats the point in us keep pointing you are wrong and im am right ( vice-versa ) and keep continuing this thread ? to be frank with u , I really do not have time to keep monitor and read thread topic and keep posting my story reply( plus I don think members wud wan me to keep paste my long story here )

Is it so hard ?

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Added on April 14, 2009, 9:24 am2nd issue on MP OP :

The story from my part .

That day we met up at Jaya 33 , and cod there. After a short happy FRENLY chat ( so CALLED frenly , now that I know ) , we proceed to our deal , which is on the MP OP .

Like usual , when buying such expensive collection , ill check and make sure everythings fine , and its 2nd hand loose unit, so isn’t it my right to check it ? while transforming, suddenly the leg button ( small part – THE TANK beside, wher u press the tank to allow the leg to push in and out to transform alt mode ) broken , which I DIDN’T APPLY hard force on it ! and to highlight I have 2 MP01 myself, and I know how the transformation are and im pretty confident and well with playing / transform it. AND especially masterpiece I will take very precaution while handling it !

Then the tank broken , and making the leg doesn’t have a clip to make sure the leg hangs on there . so the worst scenario is here ! he was shocked and I was totally shocked and surprise and worst still devastated by the incident. For yr info hamster , I myself felt HEART BROKEN to see that fig broken even though it’s a small part! U do not know how a realy pure collector feels !

And then we end up , having to discuss what we are suppose to do on this deal. Of coz usually if asked any one the one that broken it shud pay ( which initially I did not agree,; 290309 to pay , but later I wanting to pay BUT YOU hamster DON’T WANT !!!, ; 11/04/09 , and now you accuse me and blame me for what your action ????? )



You claimed :

When the thing happen
1) He did not want to buy
2) He did not want to pay for damages
3) He did not want to help to search for parts



Fu yoh bro , u seriously really GREAT la bro !!! again , if you DARE to SWEAR what u said above is true !

1) I do not want to buy it ??? I WANTED TO BUY IT but of coz not at the price that you wanted . pls make things clear ! do you expect me to pay full payment for a damage item ??? will u be so stupid to do that ?

2) I do not want to pay for damages ??? DUDE , I even sat down with you and try to comfort the situation and even offer help to solve this problem and even find plenty of solutions to what have happen during the deal and yet u say like tat ???? I even offered many type of solutions and we did not come to agree one ! and again u blame me ?

3) I DID NOT WANT TO HELP SEARCH FOR PARTS ??? wow u really great la bro… seriously, tats y I cakap u memang HEBAT benar bro… I AM THE ONE THAT OFFERED AND SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE WE TRY TO SEARCH FROM EBAY US / INTERNATIONAL FOR THE SMALL BROKEN PARTS AND REPLACE IT , AND YET U ACCUSE ME NOT TRYING TO HELP YOU ????WE EVEN SAY THAT MAYBE FROM THE PARTS THAT WE BUY WE CUD SPLIT HALF HALF YOU AGREEED ! but then we concluded that it wud take us ages and time to get the actual leg part that we want, and by time of postage from intenational …etc will not worth …. And now u say all this , seriously memang sakit hati benar and I really shock of my life u say all this la bro….


Bro kalau hang berani , mari la kita SUMPAH la, kalau ape u cakap semua tu benar and not against me , and if my part of story is not partly correct and all this is not misunderstanding , marilah kita sumpah, kalau you betul , mak atau bapak I , atau I sendiri akan accident mati , BUT if kalau u salah , mak bapak u and u akan aksiden mati , berani ???!!!


Fellow members + bro wan,

Im really sorry if I made all those sumpah statements, but putting on my position and wat explained to ppl its really another worst thing / dispute on me, this is really like a knife poking thru my heart and flesh !


Plss if there is any one out there / moderator / senior member which really can do give me some courtesy the benefit of doubt , lets all meet up and talk out and you all JUDGE who is right or wrong ! . I am not saying wan ( hamzsters ) is wrong and I am right, nevertheless, im wont agree and say im totally right and his wrong . but more on to clear this issue and have a better understanding… and u all judge..

Instead of keep continuing typing this and that , claiming this and that…. This topic thread will not end ! and frankly I wont have time to attend / reply on this forum topic . ( as you can see from my profile , I joined so far I got only very little post , coz I don chat / talk in forum , most of the time I read ppls discussion and buy/sell things that’s all , BUT that doesn’t mean that with a low post count – im a total beginner / con man / bad attitude person ! , atleast I hope all cud give me a benefit of doubts ! )


Last but not least ,

I really cant continue checking thread dispute and spend time replying, my work commitments doesn’t allow me to do so. I am not a clerk or office boy which stays in front of the computer 24x7 . THEN WHEN I DON’T REPLY , im being blame / accuse that im a conman/ cheater that I am afraid to reply or justify or to prove my innocency ! but hey… I cant possibly coz of this stup accuse affect my career right ?


This post has been edited by whoulove: Apr 14 2009, 09:24 AM

I log on yesterday and did not post reply . coz I was preparing this long explanations … and plus with my work.. I had to also stayed back quite late just to make this thing clear… not like what madstone claim that I don have the guts to explain ! y do u have such points to me ?


After so many reply one short , now finally I really realise maybe u all are true … that I was wrong…

BUT if you ask me about hamsters case I cant admit I was fully to be blame !

At this stage , what I can do is to apologize and say SORRY if I have hurt or make any one Tu L4n from this forum !

Fellow members ,

Let me just kindly ask u all 1 simple question , just answer this not thinking to the next issue.

“is it wrong that I ask for discounts ? bargaining process in a trade / deal is it a crime ?? like what you all had mentioned and said like im a real criminal ?”


Now after so long and now only u all voice out all yr unhappiness !?? y after so long ?

Before meeting up , you guys did not mentioned strictly firm and NO DISCOUNTS, shud I be fully blame for it ? the best part is … to act as a nice person u all showed good and nice and frenly attitude , and never even bother or say all this things to me.

Come on guys , I never even forced u all to give me a discounts, im just asking for it nicely and frenly. Of coz I really hope I cud get that discounts. But I have know that it hurts u all then I wouldn’t have done it . I did not do it intentionally .

I would like to suggest something , this is good for every one , maybe u guys could give me a suggestion/ ideas as well :

1) would be very happy to arrange a meet up with all of the involved parties ( also those not involved also fine ) , to just come out meet up , treat it as a gathering. Express to me and fire out all yr ammos… I would gladly listen and admit wrong , and as well explained abit just to make things clear. With that also, I don mind to treat everyone yam cha ( pls don’t get me wrong , my intention is not BUYING you all from just a cup of tea ) this is just to make things clear, and lets be fren fren and to know all my mistakes and turn out for me to better up myself to be a better person ( pls understand that , ppl tend to make mistake and do not know that they have made mistake until/and when they made it , when damage done )

with that also , I will return / refund what ever money I owe .

2) another way is … if you guys all of u feels that im really too much and have CON a lot ppls money n felt that I should not be in this forum, and after all the sincere apologise that I made cant be accepted by this community then by all means I think you guys shud ask mod to bann me. ( don get me wrong , not trying to be Lan Si somemore , but more on, if really 1 made mistake and cannot be forgive and still being criticize like that then… its really no point. , I know my heart I never tried to cheat any1s money )


3) or if u guys have any better plans / ideas so that this misunderstand / accusation / unhappiness among all members , pls voice it out a good way so that every one has a win – win situation for all…


last but not least I really wud like to say :

do not judge a book by its cover…. Maybe I looked really irritating …etc . but deep in the fact , I never had the INTENTION to do that to hurt anybodys feelings. I have done it without noticing it. And shall I not be forgive for this … then I dono what to say

kawan ,

tak de kencing , try this link :

http://members.lelong.com.my/Auc/Feedback/...erID=whoulove@1


bro ,

i tak penah have the intention to KENCING ppl like what you say.


Hamster MP OP , he told me himself that he did not know the condition , he himself never transform it even after he bought it. After he bought it , he just put on display. Kawan , if u r me , n u really did not apply hard force and the thing broke just like that what will u do ??? tell me honestly deep from yr heart ( don coz of this issue u say definitely u will PAY ) ….

After that I even keep offer hamster and talk nicely kindly that I want to pay for it and buy it . coz the ebayer that wants to buy it DOES NOT MIND THE condition of the broken leg part. Even I have told him many and many times , but he insist he wants it . even I offer to refund the money to him , he doesn’t want it and prefer to get the item. Despite I have told him its broken and I would rather not sell him. But coz he likes the item so much he wants it.

I nicely and kindly kept smsin/calling hamster trying to offer to solve this issue and wanting to responsible buy it ( did I hamster ? ) , but maybe due to his busy work schedule he seems doesn’t want to reply or entertain me. Or maybe he ad fed up with me. But I did try to solve this thing out and to have a win win situation for all of us ( hamster , the buyer and me )


Madstone ,

Jangan la sbb now every one hentam me and u taking this opportunity and tenga marah2 u also hentam me like dono tail dono head .

Come on bro , if buyer cud have told me that its is displayed and in dusty conditions then I will know and easy to judge. Don la say that its normal to have dust on fig ….blabla…my fig has no dust at all ( coz I kept it in a close glass cabinet ) , it wud b much easier for me to judge if buyer has informed the condition properly. And now u all blame me ?

Madstone ,

M not trying to show off , but pls all do respect don la talk so big till u say that how long u have collected tf … and trying to show how good u r in tf. Maybe u r indeed sifu or otai in tf . MAYBE u r not,. And maybe my collections any time over yrs …. Well im not trying to compare who have a bigger nicer collections. Just felt offended when u asking that how long I have been collecting tf sarcasticly

Salam bro ,


I really do not have bad intention and never even tried to hurt anyone here. Especially not u , when u have been kind and frenly to me ( tak tau la itu benar atau tak, n whether is it still is )

I did try to resolve the problem and tried to keep offering u a price that you want bro, but yet I cant satisfy u bro…

To reply yr items :

1) u pun mgaku u give me rm100 , I tak force u , u r the one tat kind enuff to give me rm100, yes I paid rm80 , and yes I still owe u rm20 , but betul tak yg u sendiri kata u akan giveme further discount if I take the MP OP jugak ? and once the deal of OP tak jadi , we shud look back into this matter instead of straight hang tembak aku camni. Tambah lagi OP tak jadi is u r the one yg tak nak sgt jual
2) I have sms u a lot of time bro. op tu yg nak beli tu dia tak kisah patah dia boleh offer a price near to what you expected . I sincerely and nicely invite u out for a drink to discuss further on how much u want and expected so that we cud have a win win situation tapi u yg sombong kat gua bro.. u reject my offer. And turn around hang kata aku paksa hang keluar discuss and kacau hang. Bro , how hurtful it is ..sampai hati lu ckp cam tu ???i even offer belanja u makan as a fren….
3) Bukan aku nak sumpah bro.. but when I read all the thing u posted its like macam sebilah pisau cucuk straight to yr heart bro… selama ni aku anggap hang as a fren instead of just a seller to me, a collector fren also .. but hang tak puas hati semua ni, but u did not tell it straight to my face , so that I know my mistake, tapi terus tembak gua kat sini. Ape rasa lu , if ada org buat cam tu kat lu bro ? terutama sekali bila lu tak de niat jahat atau niat nak tipu, dan terutama sekali bila lu ada niat baik yg frenly nak berkawan dan bergaul…. Tetapi di silapkan or misunderstood yg ko ni org jahat… ape perasaan lu bro ?
4) Not trying to accuse u as an actor… but more on I was really angry also… I felt betrayed, cz u so called us as fren and so frenly…blabla and nice sangat kat aku, aku pun anggap hang kawan and nice to u , n kept call/sms u to help to solve this OP issue tapi hang terbalik hentam camtu ? tats y I dono wat is true n wat is not now..
5) Yes I have read the comments and complaints . and Sincerely I really really appreciate all the feedbacks…. And now I know how bad my repu is to all of you. But I swear to god that I never did it intentionally. And I hope for forgiveness. Is there any way I cud mend my mistake ? im welcome any feedbacks and ways to have a happy and peaceful solutions to have a WIN-WIN situation for all… if u all feel that to make u all happy is by me disappearing from this forum for good.. then I shall do that just to make all happy.

Bro / kawan

Like ape aku keep explaining, I do want to pay compensation like what we agreed to discuss on it, but hamster da tak nak layan , shud I b blame for that ? he doesn’t want to sell his op anymore. If he wants to sell, then I wud b hapy and glad that I cud solve both parties issue.


Bro, I had an courtesy to ask if able to nego , and if buyer really insist no more nego, then I know the final price, from there only ill think and make decision to arrange seller out or not. I wont wanna waste ppls time as well as my time. Is that also my fault ? not trying to turn back saying its sellers fault for not informing properly… but rather… y after all this incident now only every one take this opportunity to bang me ?

When cod , and after cod still remain ok and nicely and frenly… belakang tembak kau kau….


My stuff I never say cant nego. But a lot of things I myself bought expensive bro. really bought expensive cant expect to sell back cheap right ? just matter of trying to get back my cost only , itu pun salah ke bro ?

Like u say , we are all fellow collectors , lets share the passion and hobby together , and not trying to spoilt this relationship Q

but bro ,

the dust is not like a lilttle like u say ! im not so FUSSY tat abit dust also i want to complain , but if the dust as thick as when u wipe it, u can feel the thinkness , and bit sarang of dust habuk, is it not fair for me just to kindly nego and discuss to ask abit of discounts ??? well if seller persist and do not want to give discount, then they shud also kindly tell. if buyer really feel that they donot want to give discounts. ill either accept for what it is n pay it.


but the situation now bros....

i believe i asked kindly ( thou i have to admit some deals i do kept ask for discounts and bargaining ) for the discounts, and BOTH parties agree and happily deal. all of the ones i dealed are happy and still chit chat like fren ...blabla... but when 1 start hentam.... every 1 start hentam

comeon bros... is this fair to me ? after so long now only u all complaint and pointing the loaded missles at me and ignite it... dear members / frens... for the benefit of Doubt , couldnt u kindly and nicely tell me :

" hey look bro, sorry la i think i cant go anymore lower, i insist on having the price that i want. anything below that i wont sell !! "

with this , ill understand and i wont nego anymore. dont get me wrong here. im not trying turn around and blame all the sellers here. but more on , hoping some ppl or u guys that have deal with me cud JUST TAKE 3 MINUTES time and try to put in my position here fren....

i have never thought in my life to have a bad repo or bad experience to any one out there. as a buyer im just hoping for the best price of all i can get. thats all

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Added on April 14, 2009, 12:46 pmbro wait la...

im in the office n im in mid of meeting .... u cant expect 1 to be in front of computer 24 hours. .. i lambat reply 1 hour u kata i chicken out ! ape ni ??? u really sengaje nak cari pasal ni bro ?!! y ?

from my record i never deal with u personally before... but wat i see , u r the 1 most BATU API , keep hentam and maki me..!!!!

if u really feel like having a piece of me then just come n see me i welcome u any time...


BUTTT

if u really do not have bad intention and just saje kawankawan perli me , or hentam me or FISH@#% me as like normal kawan2... then im ok ... lets Fish here n there... like normally buddies and fren the way they talk...


hope u , me and all cud take this positively ! peace

This post has been edited by whoulove: Apr 14 2009, 12:46 PM

bro ,

im not sure who u r , and im not trying to deny waht u say... BUT im swear the thing u said is not true !!!!

u said i bought alot of tf and scalp the price ???? bro what prove do u have to say this ??? show us / me the prove !!! if u check from my ebay or even from lyn here , i hardly sell things , i BUY alot of things . and infact alot of my collections i sell back retail or maybe a profit margin of rm5-10 . !!!! and is this wat u called scalp ???

those things that i sell bit higher like example SC01 , that is the price what i bought from other scalpers , and being 1 of the victim itself ( like everybody does last time ) and now im being accuse to be a scalper ???? when im just trying to get back the price i bought ? is that scalping ? i even highlighted clearly in my sales thread , that some of the items might be slightly pricy , due to the cost that i bought last time ! , and yet u say like taht ?


yr situation 1 :

i think i know who u are talking about ... ( a guy working from hasbro ) , for yr info i rmbr clearly i bought from him rm70 NOT rm50 . and i swear to god when i got back home then only i notice that the item was previously opened and sealed back nicely and stick those big selaphine tape !!! come on bro, let me ask u la .... the movie deluxe packing of hasbro, both side will stick those big selaphine tape right ?!! but when there is DOUBLE LAYERED on both side what does that mean ? and there is trade the 1st selaphine tape tempered , wat it shows u ? ESPECIALLY when the figure inside got NO RUBBER transperant ( the one that tight the car together ), which in nature of a NEW set it will have !!! what does that mean ???? yes the wire string is well there . but where is the rubber transparent ???

and for yr info, i kindly asked him what happen and told him the story, and he said that i tried to accuse him!!! WTFISH ? i got prove that time after deal with tat guy , my fren met me up at that mamak and i showed him, he was the one taht notice it !


situation 2 :

bro now look whose talking ? u say i scalp , but u yrself trying to sell higher and u say i scalp ??? did u mentioned in ebay that the box are dented ??? and dusty ? come on shxt bro... u takign this chances again to fire at me...

yr another 1 that infront of me ok ok steady , we fren fren , no problem bro , thanks chao bye... keep in touch... at the back , now tembak me like that ??? wow wat a person u are ...

i can see that wen met u , u also keep criticise and scold talk bad about Toy Workers say james this and that la... bla bla.... but after 1 week or 2 , when 1 of the preorders are out in TW , i notice u came to the shop also ????? WTF ???? u belakang tembak ppl like shit talk Kook of ppl and condemed ppl say james this and that, but in end yet u r 1 of frequent ppl taht goes to TW !!!

don pretend and say no or u forgot d la bro. i rmbr u even told me over at TW ( while james were not noticing ) , u say hey don tell anything about the things i told u ya... ( somesort like tat )

you are really THE BIGGEST JOKER i have ever seen , u r worst that an actor dude.!!!

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Added on April 14, 2009, 1:13 pmthe deep striker is really my frens enquiries , his not a forumer and doesnt go online. a working person.


if u notice and checked i never bought any gundams before.

the reason i asked is for me to show him the actual unit coz he wants to see it. but due to his work nature like me he has to run in and out office with the time not fixed and not able to suit yrs or my time. i asked u to passed me ur deep striker , so that in any time of 5 minutes of the time when he comes back to office then i cud show him and if he agrees i straight pay u up...

the link tat u mentioned is broken , then that im not sure. but pls check thru lelong, if u search for member it will come out. and i never even tot of cheat yr gundams away. if i made u think so... then im sorry

This post has been edited by whoulove: Apr 14 2009, 01:13 PM

bro seaedge ,


on this part... i have to admit it was my mistake.... i checked the item generally before buy and when got back really notice yr display unit condition ... and some broken tyres which u have clearly indicated and informed...

i have to apologise to u on this... when its my fault ill kindly accept it and not trying to cover or find excuse.

n bro , further after that i din also asked u to bank in right ? the remaining we say aiya chin chai 2 just forget it ma right ...

bro kamkam ,


as for yr case . again i dont know that u were offended by the way I nego . infact I nego it with a frenly manner instead of pushing u to the edge… if u realy felt that way… pls accept my apologize. And let me know what I cud do to compensate u… I wud appreciate yr frenship then the deal.

Don get me wrong… im not trying to buy yr heart ( beli hati la… ) but really sincere to mend things up between certain members that I treasure as a fren.

Don worry bout this thread, even if after our own private session and amendments done to yr side , but it wont help on this thread … or im being banned / wat so ever.. im fine with it. Atleast im able to grab back a frens relationship.

Same goes to bro seaedge and a few more… those who want can pm me , and express it out, maybe we cud have a time out together yamcha.. roti canai .. ( tapi nak restaurant besar mkin susah la sikit )

goldfries ,


actually thats wat i appreciate

n to be frank... again and again i emphasize that i didnt COMPLAINT badly about the dust and end up trying to take that as an advantage to get a better price... NO thats NOT wat my intention...


bro hamster n who ever affected by me saying dusty ,

let me ask u all kindly nicely, did i not , comment nicely about the dust >? and kindly ask for discounts ??? did i like what u all expressed : I PESTER AND ARGUE and ask for more and more discounts annoyingly ????


dear bros....

come on la... just to be fair to my side is it as bad as u all have said ??? m i so #%^&@!! like what u all describe ?? just take 2-3 minutes sit down calmly and think back and try to flash back our cod scene/ scenario... was it really as bad as u all have said.. ????

if yes ? then y r u guys so happy and frenly during and after the deal section ?? pls don say taht : alahh we just want to make u happy . or don wan to make things worst or cin cai with u ...blabla....

BUYER has rights to comment and Nego

SELLER has right to defend and stick to yr price and whether to sell or NOT its still up to seller ! right ?


correct me if im wrong

bro pls recall me what deal i have had with u....

bro like i said,... the price we pm was not fixed initially , therefore i nego.... but if in PM , we have clearly fixed a price and non nego then im pretty sure i will not nego anymore when meet .

n u mentioned about coming far to cod with me , bro , can i kindly ask u a question ? did i specifically ask u to come to my area instead ? normally my kind of person, I will try to have a meeting place convenient for BOTH buyer and seller , and NOT ONLY just to convenient for myself ! I have the courtesy to think for seller also !

wat did I buy from u and how did I annoyed u ?

bro ... wat the fish...

which sentence / phrase u don udnerstand ???? i say specifically for bro kam kam and seaedge... BUT those they feel like still wanna b fren with me or forgive me then i welcome them to come !!! did i say i want to buy all ppl out ???? u think money is everything ???

can u pls just check my previous post that i HIGHLIGHTED that im not trying to buy whoevers heart out ? if u wanna take it the other way around , i cant do anything to change yr mind set bro! but that is not waht mind thinking about !


n yes u r fishing correct all can boycout me if wan. but if those can forgiveme then i appreciate and i will not repeat the same mistake again that i know ... those that cant accept the fact... i cant do anything... tq

bro madstone,

all do respect , especially u as a SAFETRADER and senior high post member .. u have my respect. But as a senior member , I feel that u do not respect a member or respect me as a normal person / human.

Like u say , u have yr rights wat ever u want to say / argue or do. Tat Im not trying to argue / deny. Same goes to everyone here. And also for myself , I have to defend myself. If u know me well enuff, im not the type of person, when I do something wrong I still try to cover or SWEET TALK like what u said.

Frankly , its sad to hear that u saying im TRYING to sweet talk out. I think I also highlighted that its up to u all to trust or not my sincerity and not trying to SWEET talk or BUY ppls heart out !


If u say yr officemate of bro hamster @ wan . then I think u shud have the courtesy to really understand my smses… I believe my sms is very clear enuff. If u dare to say it was harsh and very sickening arrogant msg. then pls publish it out like what 1 fellow did.

Im very confident that my sms clearly spoken nicely KINDLY courtesyly .. ( wat ever ly.. ) that I would like to solve this issue and wanting / hoping he cud give me some time to meet up and discuss this issue on how to solve it ! but yr fren did not even bother to reply or pickup my call ! maybe he got irritated or maybe he was bz . but I did kept sms him 2-3 days once and informed him about the situation.

And FYI !!!

I DO NOT AGREE , I never want to involve him to what mess I made. The deal between me and the ebayer has nothing to do with him. Yes that’s true . but I kept highlighted to him that, in order to get WIN WIN situation for all, I hope he cud spend just a 10 mins for me and him so that we cud discuss and work things out . my many solutions was :

- me meeting him up discuss on how much he wants me to compensate or how much I should pay, then I pay to him and get the OP
- then after getting the OP , I can post the item to the buyer asap, as I have received his money , and I have no intention to con his money . and its still pending for delivery. And the buyer clearly mentioned HE DO NOT MIND the broken part despite I have emailed him the picture hamster gave. Of coz with a different buying price ( which means after getting hamster OP , I have to post to him, and also refund a lil money to buyer for the compensation )
- im doing all this just to have a WIN WIN situation for every 1 , just trying to please hamster me and d ebay guy…. Is that wrong ?

this is the link if u want.

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em=230332041833



Q2

i understand how u felt. i felt the pain and angry that u felt also , i think i do kept telling u that . but come think back hamster! if u are in my side, and u r just testing the item,, and sudenly it spoilt , is it fair to buyer ? im not buying a new item here , pls Correct the situation ! if we go shop and buy new things , we touch we patah it , ya we pay for it.

jsut let me try ask u a simple scenario ,

when u buy a 2nd hp from a seller , the seller claimed it was ok , but when u test on the spot, the phone has no reception or cant Turn ON after u placed yr simkad in !!???? so buyer that test the phone shud b FULLY blame on it ?

this is like a grey situation / chicken and egg situation, seller knws that item was ok and good. but buyer proved that the item was infact got problem ! now tell me frens , if u try the phone and the phone got problem , are u telling me that u WILL buy the phone , despite it was tested to prove that it was problem ???

hamster ,
im not trying to accuse u that u r selling a spoilt item. tats not what i want and plan to do. but , i really tested it and transform it nicely and properly. and from the way u see me transform ( without looking at manual ) u shud knw that i know how to transform it.

u r the 1 tat say , maybe da nasib mmg the ting wants to happen , or every item when reach a point it will broken , its like elastic limit stage. at a point wear tear any thing will patah , eventually maybe for this case it just happens that it was the time it patah... im not accusing yr things are worn out.

n u yrself SAID that u never transform the fig before. n u dono the condition. u bought till now u never transform it. if u tell me that u have transformed it before and everythings fine , then only i transform got problem maybe then i can say im fully to be blame., but u yrself said that the fig bought till now no one has transformed it before. how do u know it wont spoilt when after u buy it ???


i just want to know SHOULD I BE FULLY BLAME for it ???

u yrself even agreed for us to see how we cud work things out by sharing the lost and or sell me at a price that u think u wud agree.. but then u decline and yet im being blame for it ??

bro part of yr story is true , but partly i have to say :


initially yes i may have offered too low somemore i am the one that broken it... but later after few days. i kept asking hamster that to come out and discuss see how much he wants , so taht i cud arrange and see how much is the losses i have to refund back to ebay winner. from there i cud judge see ok or not.

and i kept asking hamster but he doesnt want to bother me. infact i even offer near 150 as waht he WANTED for . but yet no reply from him...

alan,

not thanking u , but appreciate yr feedback. like u say , loose joints are hard to see from picture. it can only judge by testing and feeling the actual item itself... of coz Fish to those FUSSY buyer , that 2nd must be tight . even new 1 also has the QC problem and joints might be loose. thats y i never realy kept complaining on the loose joints , and i never coz of his loose joint then ask for more and more discount ( i know i say all this , all of u especially madstone will say that im trying to cover myself , or sweet talk ... up to u all to say )

bout habuk bro... like i said... im not so particular and fussy till i cannot accept habuk. infact those with habuk , ill bring back and give them a good shower and clean up and touch up on the paint and clean with my towel....but i would appreciate if the seller cud inform the buyer in the begining if its really taht bad. instead like now straight pointing at me as if like its my fault to comment on the dust !

fren ,


which context did I SAY I DO NOT WANT TO PAY . infact i keep saying I WANT TO PAY ! and hamster doesnt agree ! and do not want to sell to me since he is already pissed with me


so waht shud i do ? FORCE him and put a knife and ask him to sell to me ?

bro ,

discounts up to rm50 ???? bro pls recall me .... which items is tat ? if u say rm50 for 1 item i think its really too much d ... if alot of fig for rm50 then its ok wat.. if u say rm5-10 per fig discount.


but any how , if u felt offended , i seek for yr forgiveness. and wont repeat again . thx

hamster ,


I already told u in beginning that the true is im buying yrs to replace as my collections. Yrs looks better than mine . therefore im selling off mine in order to get yrs . im not reseller here. N I never force ppl to buy my ebay item for rm262 , his the one that bidded . and for yr info the agreed price was not 262 . I sold him 250 as tat was my initial price and he email me before another bidder did.

Plus now , I would like to compensate him back for a damage op leg, I wud b looking at only selling him about rm150 or less depends on negotiation with him.


So if I buy with u at rm200 , ill loose money of atleast rm50 and above. Isn’t it fair for u , me and every one ?? and yet u say all that.


By me explaining my standing …etc , u say im a good politicians la a power lawyer la…blabla… k la dude. I don wan to explain no more… what ever u wan u ad achieve doing it. U wanted the world to know my person , and purposely to spoilt name and repo… and so u have success in doing it. Look at the current damages impart on me ? is it not good enuff ? that u r not satisfy yet ? even when I offer to pay for the MP OP , u still don wan to sell it to me , u rather keep it , and let my name busuk… so u have successfully did it . wat else do u wan dude ?

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Added on April 14, 2009, 6:21 pmFrens / members ,


Come on la… wat ever I do is wrong wat ever I say is wrong . wat do u all actually wan me to do now ? u all kept saying pay pay pay the damages . did I say I do not want to pay ????

Did I say / do anything that trying to run away from paying ? and for yr info , it is not because of this existence of this thread then only I want to pay. I wanted to pay even the beginning of last 2 weeks !!! coz a small mistake like this and u all judge me like this , and in the end hamster keep ignore me and doesn’t want me to buy / pay but YET im being blame for it ???? WTF ?

U guys, … if really tats wat madstones wish and every ones wish to banned me then let the STAFF / mod / founder…who ever in charge and let them judge me , if im found to be really wrong and I should be banned for good , ok im fine with it, and I accept the punishment. With that , if it will soothens and make u all happier , then ill leave it to the staff / mod. I personally believe , if the mod/ staff /admin is professional enuff , and based on my feedback and what im trying to be a nice person to sort things out here, and still im being target as a criminal then… I have nothing to say… that will also show how good / bad the mod/staff/admin do their job. Let them assess.


I really cant be continuing reading this thread and typing and keeping replying and explaining , in the end !!!! yet im the criminal , and I wont be accepted back or wont recognize for my apologysss then im sorry to all , I have to quit replying this thread.

U can say that I chicken out / pussx or what ever … but I really don’t have time to keep replying and be in front of computer… just for this case I have spent the whole day time , not able to finish my work/job . I do not want coz of this topic , n I will get fire by my company. So to end the story…

If any of u feels that I have unintentionally offended u by wat I say and do … then pls forgive me sincerely .


If anyone feels that I have outstanding money that I owe any of u , pls pm me, ill resolve it soon.


If anyone feels that I am still able to accept as a fren , also do pm me , so we cud have a better frenship , and let the bygones be bygones…


This post has been edited by whoulove: Apr 14 2009, 06:21 PM

Dear Bros, fellow collectors and lyn members,


Last night I have called hamster up and discuss quite a bit. And again I have apologise for what have happened. Also I have made the necessary payment back to hamster and he has verified it today.

This issue and topic has really been taken long and lengthy. I have reached a stage that I really do not want to respond further or do not want to bother anymore. The reason being is because what ever I do or say, I will definitely get a Smack Back from the crowd. What ever attempt I made to satisfy all , but there is definitely a crowd that I am not able to satisfy them.

Like I said right from beginning , I have NEVER had any intention to run away with rm20 ! or never even think of conning/cheating peoples money ! IF I really have that kind of intentions or any bad plans , I would have always been banned from LELONG and EBAY . you all can see for yourself , my ratings of over 200+ve no negative ratings is not a fake / created by myself. Do not get me wrong here, I am not trying to show / impress you all how great seller I am. But trying to tell you all that I have never had any intention of cheating ppls money.

I personally believe that a lot of the stories may be true and correct but at some might have exaggerate abit. I believe that all of this might have caused by a misunderstanding which causes all the unwanted scenarios what you all can see here. I am not trying to run away from the fact ( 1: I do bargain and ask for discounts , 2: I did had a few deals that mentioned by members ..etc ) but a few scenarios commented was not true and never was it that way like what members have slamp it.

Like I discuss with hamster, I have clearly UNDERSTAND and know my mistake that I have done . and this mistake and impacts to me is so deep that I will keep it long forever in my heart. …. So damage already done . what im hoping for right now , and sincerely asking from all of you out there is to give me A CHANCE ! that’s wat im asking for … and im not asking for more . like I said, I have learnt my mistake and I will not repeat the same mistake again in future.

We human make mistake, no one is perfect, I believe all of u made mistake in life too. And I have learn from the mistake. What I hope for is a chance to redeem what mistakes that I have done. Is that too much ?