any1 is going to ACCA career fair this coming Sat?????

I see. Thanks for the advice! =)

In Johor there are 3 players for ACCA - Sunway JB, Cresendo and City Pro. If you are going for a branded selection - my suggestion is Sunway, if not the others could be alright.
Sunway JB benefits from the Sunway PJ branding, therefore the big 4 will still give you a "look" due to brand equity. Its like choosing the an MBA, you don't choose for price, you choose for brand name of the place where you study (HARVARD vs UM). The contacts that you make and the image that you carry is different.

With cars, a toyota is a good car and reasonably priced, but when you are getting married, you want to Merz or a BMW to carry your wife and you to the wedding - WHY?

I know a lot of talk about choosing the lecturer that suits you, most of the talk is just bull - if you did a degree, would you choose the lecturer or the university.

I know for a fact that, most of the students that do not get thru - do so cause they take things easy - last minute studying and so on. If you are in a professional course you should be hungry for the education and the training, not looking for entertainment and enjoyment in the class and still take the education as a laid back approach.

State your objectives and then start the selection process

Do you need image or cost efficiency?

Mind asking what is CPD for?
i see bside said tat got 2 CPD hour..or 1 CPD hour.

Continuous Professional Development, it meant for those who have already finished acca but need to fulfill certain quota of CPD by attending some seminar or talk. Anyone can attend but those CPD are like bonus for those who want to fulfill their quota anyway.

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Added on August 7, 2009, 10:56 amAnother where you came from to determine where you can go philosophy. Touche

This post has been edited by Topace111: Aug 7 2009, 10:56 AM

Ha Ha, I got some friend graduate ACCA from Kasturi, Mc Orange and TARC, when they apply EY--- accept

At the same time, 2 of my ex-collage from Sunway, they try to apply PWC --fail. After they work in small firm for one year, they try to apply KPMG---baru accept.

Hello, I know Sunway student got chance to enter BIG 4, but doesn't mean other college student don't have chance enter BIG 4.

And do you know that after graduate ACCA, to enter BIG 4 or commercial for 1st job might not be a good choice? This is what Choong Kwai Fatt told us in the class. If you don't believe, go to email him to ask. (kwaifatt@yahoo.com)

Please remember ACCA is external exam, difference from Degree. After student graduate, when they go to commercial look for job, nobody will interest whether they are from Sunway, SEGI, KSA or any other college. The boss will only interest how much you can contribute to their co.

Who tell you last minute study is easy? I can tell you that KL student also hardworking but just don't have so many classes and mock exam as per Sunway student. Normally only part time student will be last minutes study since they don't have much time.

Talk about entertainment and enjoyment. If I'm not mistake, Sunway student have more enjoy as compare to other college student.

Since we are senior here, we should look at pro and con for all college when give advise to new student. Like me, I always recommend student follow experience lecturer, but at the same time I oso ask student need to accept the bad study environment if choose to study in KL.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Aug 7 2009, 01:53 PM

I think may be he is from Sunway marketing. Ha Ha

guys,

tomorrow event ,

i see this on wearing code

What is the dress code?
Wear smart and formal to impress your future employers!

if a student only wan to go for the talk..do nid to wear formal?
mmh..
anyone went bfore?

you too should see the mirror once a while .

Whoa just came back from career fair 2009 & since very few have disclosed much about it, i will revealed my experience there with some of my outstation friends. Met some friends there as well & some of them are in the student body handling the fair.

First a general overview, those who have been to the past career fair will agree that this career fair has been downsized slightly. For example 2 of the Big4's have dropped out which are EY & Deloitte. The CPD talk are rather interesting by some top figures but seats are very limited (due to small room rented which cater to around a hundred members). They only serve plain water & some sweets.

Some general facts which I pick up :
1) No interview
They dont want to interview there since most if not all are top firms & companies, so they have their own interview tests & schematics in their own company. At most you can dropped your resume or register for more information later on. Even those with considerable experience & full chartered membership will undergone a same process but with less hassle.

2) Crowd
Majority of the crowd is over 22, i only seen mine & very few others below that age. A lot of middle age member & those whom have sufficient work experience will throng this kind of fair. A very shy & passive crowd according to most exhibitors since most will only ask what they wanted & get out as soon as possible with exception of some aggresive members.

3) Dress Code
Since there is no interview & you are not there to impress anyone so I think you can wear like you go to a shopping centre & its even better that way. I think most overdress on their first occasion (I am half formal) & most thought they will be full interview session & I can see on the look at their face that most of them are definitely dissapointed on that fact that this fair is only like a "information centre" rather than a direct recruitment drive. Thats why I see some that have experience b4, dress as casually as they could.

4) Documents
Dont bother about them which includes resume, CV or certs. They dont want your resume too since I see 50% of the organizations want you directly to email them to their website. Those that received only wnt resumes thrown in their transparent box. I seen some inexperienced members brought all their real certs like 100% attendance dockets which I think is a bit overzealous but maybe there is no one there that told them b4.

My personal experience :
Went for the first talk conducted by some top corporate heads on their experience on their career. Like whether accounting firms vs commercial firms, motivation to cope, creative accounting, .....etc. Quite interesting since these are hands-on experience.

Then went for the main event, the fair itself :

Bank : All their exhibitors are friendly & very informative (willing to share as well). But they lack the comprehension of most how acca works so I need to explain no CGPA & societies stuff but in the end it is ok. Requirements are very general.
a) Maybank
Their main theme is Investment bank & they offer a lot of info on a management associate programme (like other banks as well). Staffs are quite friendly & informative.

b) OCBC bank
No associate programme but they offer a lot of position for fresh graduate that are willing to learn. Staffs are funny & friendly too.

Petroleum or Chemical Based Company : Almost all their staff are quite clueless on how acca works & when I put that I am under 5 college they are perplexed. However they offer a lot of trainee programme but mostly cater to finance & accounting. They prefer fresh graduate since fields are quite specific. Staffs although friendly but most will give one sentence answer compared to those at banks.

c) Petronas : The funniest since their registration contains things like Bankruptcy declaration, criminal charges,.... but they have a small booth.
The only firm that ask whether you have any relatives working at there or hold any shares.

d) Shell : Their talk by Revenue Vice president is quite refreshing but their booth is only for registration (Q & A is very brief & short).
e) BASF : Very friendly staff but if you hand on resume, they will check on personally before putting it in a box. Deemed the largest company around

I think these are what most are waiting for, public accounting firms. To put it simply the exhibitors are mostly grumpy, cool & confident kind of exhibitors. Then there is one friendly around to offset the tense atmosphere. Most required full ACCA holder qualification.

f) PwC : Small booth but got the most exhibitors standing around, but most left halfway. Put it this way, their recruitment policy is seasonal & their latest intake will be october but since its already full, can only work at March. Some of my friends are quite perplexed by their decision to hold a fair if they are not intend to recruit anyone (maybe overload with people)

g)KPMG : Got a lot of people at this booth (got a caucasion exhibitor I think). Their intake is quarterly & latest is october but can start work at october.
h) Baker tilly : The only firm that allows part acca holder to apply since all others required full qualification holder or OBU holder.
i) Grant thorton : I get a grumpy exhibitor but my friend got a friendly one so I will dwell much there. Very few people at this booth & baker tilly.

I think almost everyone's wish is to attend Accenture consultancy or outsourcing. I see almost all the bigheads gathering there & they really like members that really wish to learn since they claim they have one of the best if not the best training & learning development tools offered.
They are looking for outsourcing rather than consulting.

The funniest joke (ok no flame anyone) that Kasturi is also holding a booth as well as sunway. Sunway is more to recruitment but KSA is more to lecturers. When the staff gave us the lecturers profile of KSA all my friends & I giggles right there for the sheer irony of it. Easily said almost no one bothered for it.

So this is meant for those who have never been there b4 but always wondering what it looks & feels like. This is the closest I can comment without dozing off anyone.

Such as strange is life. Couple days ago, saw just outside Sunway college a very bold print adverstisement banner on lamp post from INTI subang featuring P3 Lecturer Michael Manwaring - that they have another intake coming up on August 09. You know the ones with cloths/PVC materials hanging on the street lighting poles? Then for some reason all the banners on the lamp post just disappear. I mean if you want to put up, any sensible advertisers would do it for at least 2 weeks. What for put up for few days then take them down?? Too free??

But this is very good for us , now we got 2 colleges to choose from in Sunway territory and must not forget a cluster of good choices in KL - KSA, KB and others.

Wonder if anyone can explain this strange advertising tactic? maybe that college will give us leaflets with magic ink print that will dissappear in 3 hours. Got to read it b4 the message is gone.

haha... the best job to enter is medium firm.

anyways, this is just CKF personal opinion base on his past experience, follow o not is up to individual.

hope this is still his answer.

we all know what you mean Megryan. pity inti . may be advertise else where ya .

Ha Ha, you are his student also.

Actually I agree his opinion. Reason was if student go to Big 4, student learning process will be slow. Some more if joint Big 4, then possible will be under division specialist in few industries only. You don't have the chance to do other job like tax, sec, IA and etc.

Some ppl said medium size firm salary firm too low, so better go commercial if can't enter Big 4. But please remember 1st job don't about high paid, but must look at something learning. In future, you will get better and high paid.

its all depend on luck!

i see all my friend who joined big4 as 1st job are surviving well...

even 1 of my friend who 1st join commercial also doing well...

and myself n my friends joining medium firm also doing well...

even my friend who join small firm doing well...

so it's up to individual on which type of lifestyle they want to live with...

hi LecturerX, thanks for the input.

basically sunway is out of my choice as the campus is far from singapore (because i am studying in spore) whereas citypro and crescendo is just 5 mins walk from the custom.

i have visited citypro and crescendo last friday and a few experienced lecturers (as recommended by the thread starter, Mr Low Chin Ann and Mr Yap Kok Hwa) are teaching in citypro, as for crescendo, i have never heard all their lecturers' name. here is a compliment to citypro, i think they did their flyer well by including all the class timetables, fees and the most important, a brief introduction of all the lecturers! furthermore, the marketing consultant was kind enough to explain everything regarding ACCA to me. great effort!

i have decided to take partial papers in JB and singapore where lecturers are recommended by online forums.

i am thinking fundamental level (F1-F3) papers are easy.. as its in MCQ (thats just my view, anyone can share their experience?). i have gotten all F1-F3 texts and wow they are all so thick! is self study for these papers going to work?

Is there anyone taking P6 from sunway (ms Kok) either part time or full time this semester? I need someone to have discussion with (hw/ revision etc). I'm STUCK with no appropriate ppl to discuss with. Thankssssssss PM me pls.

lecturerX,

your statements are funny.
i think no one here is bother to debate with you
and please do your research before talking.

one more, please open up your mind.

Ayoh, don't say like that la. I think possible he/she is from Sunway marketing, the job for marketing ppl is to promote their biz la.

This post has been edited by carlosandy: Aug 12 2009, 10:44 AM

I'm thinking of going to KL/PJ to study for my professional module. I live in East Malaysia.

Wow, I never knew the KL people culture of switching from centre to centre. Here, everybody just sticks with the same college till they're done with. Never cross their mind of switching once registered with the college since CAT or ACCA.

So, if I'm going to West Malaysia, I'm in a dilemma. If I go according to the best lecturers around, where the heck am I gonna stay? Somewhere in between?! Yikes! *headache*

This post has been edited by amber88: Aug 12 2009, 04:59 PM