Guys, should I pay RM220 to attend Palmindar Singh's class for p3(techniques to ans Q). Is he worth teh $$? Thanks

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: May 1 2009, 02:28 PM

Yeah, it's much cheaper than Michael's (RM400 for 2 days?!). I guess I will register for it but don't quite like the fact that it's on 19,20,21. So so near to the exam date '.

I've been attending parmindar singh's revision(RI) class for p3. Is his RE(questions) session worth payin RM220 for? One of my friends said going for the RI is more than enough... need more views @@

Thanks for replying.. since you've been his student before, I want to know :
i) to what extent will he cover the past year questions (all past year questions or spotting?)
ii) how will he approach the Qs? Will he teach a systematic way to approach a Q, like keywords indicating which models to use etc?
iii) considering only 9 hours of time doing Qs I honestly doubt it's enough but ..was it so effective for you that you think without attending it you would have had failed the paper?
iv) Will I achieve the same results if I go through the past year questions thoroughly myself? (my lecturer at Sunway doesn't really teach us how to approach the Q, all he did was a little analysis and dictation of answers)

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: May 11 2009, 03:14 AM

hehe thanks for ur time i know what to do now

I intend to take p6 and p7. I'm wondering if anyone here took P7 under Mr.Goh from Sunway? Is he good? Any other recommendations for p7 lecturer (pros n cons) and how about p6 some ppl say alan some say chin ann. Frankly I don't care if the lecturer is boring but his/her lecture must be effective and he/she gives you the assurance that you can pass before and after the exam.

I've attended P3 classes for IRC from Parmindar, 2months ++ classes from Marcus and 1 whole sem with Dinesh. So I might be able to ans some of ur queries if you intend to take p3 from either of the aforementioned lecturers.

Parmindar : Through his IRC I can quickly tell his lectures are very interesting and not boring. His notes are made such that it's easy to read and understand. Lots of acronyms to remember, lots of names to remember lots of examples. If you can put all those bombastic words n examples he gave in class in ur final exam, they could separate u from the rest of the students. Well I didn't attend his normal classes so can't comment much but judging from his IRC, his lectures are seriously not bad at all. Very easy to absorb what he taught.

Marcus : His analysis of questions is extremely good. He can really drill a concept(for certain areas only like for Q1) in ur head really good and his lectures are very very entertaining. However, he spent too much time on PESTEL/FIVE FORCES/VALUE CHAIN ETC and he goes through the last few chapters very fast and there were a lot of students complaining about his pace & his notes are quite messy. When he teaches something he skips here and there. At times, his lectures are very confusing. I'm not sure if he changed his way of lecturing. He has this framework for answering Q1 on "analysis of current position" which is extremely good. You get to practise a lot of questions under him.

Dinesh : His notes are good & quite complete(exception of HR topic) but at times freaking hard to understand(When I compare his notes to parmindar's notes i rather read parmindar's) . His lectures are freaking boring as he basically lectures according to the words in the notes. Somewhat doing direct reading. IMO, avoid this lecturer.

Basically P3 requires u to do a lot of questions. You can do PYQ and have a grasp of the paper(you'll really feel like u can nail the paper after doing 2002-2008, no joke). It would probably help if you attend classes from 1 lecturer and get notes from other lecturers (particularly parmindar's IRC notes). In the final exam though, you won't really have the time to write all the fancy examples you've learnt in class but they all formed part of your foundation & understanding. If you can write like bullets coming out from a machine gun, sure u'll hav all the time in world eh? . As for my personal choice, I would choose Parmindar among the 3. But I believe Michael would be the best. Phillip - no comment. But according some friends, his IRC was better than parmindar coz parmindar basically re-teach everything only.

Hope this helps

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 1 2009, 02:14 AM

btw, any1 here took P6 under Miss Kok from sunway? Is she reliable? If she's not reliable then im considering to take p6 as extra tuition at kolej bandar from chin ann. But I'm wondering is it really beneficial to go for classes under 2 different lecturers for p6? Any help wud be appreciated! Btw let's leave $$ matter aside. I have to pass this sem T_T.

And.. is sheila john the best lecturer available for P7? Wht shld i be aware of if I take P7 from her? thxx..

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 2 2009, 11:46 PM

Yea I just attended my first Miss Kok class today. She is fine but I'm not sure if she's the only source i can/will rely on. Thx for solving the "puzzle" for me. No wonder there wasnt any comment on Sheila teaching P7 lol. @ rollercoaster i feel like taking P6 at kasturi but the timetable clash with my current paper heh.. thx for teh replies guys.

Yeah I know he teaches P1 and P7 in sunway ..but F8? I beg to differ from ur opinion that he is an unethical person. Most of the students under him will say that he is very ethical. He enters the class mostly on time, he never let us off early(occassionally late), he makes use of the 3 hours(15mins break) class 100%. He is an extremely dedicated lecturer hence he's always fully booked by students who want to do OBU. If there's any problem with him it might be his style of lecturing. It's boring most of the time (reading from the notes,explanations and then jotting down some simpler explanations beside the paragraphs for students who are weak in english?). Not sure about his P7 but my friends said his style is the same as well. Since you guys said Sheila is good I'm going to register for her classes soon b4 tuesday. I hope she does a better job at making the subject interesting and relevant to the exam. But topace said it's her first sem so im terribly worrieed now Btw, no one mentions abt p7 at SEGI or INTI ? O.o

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 4 2009, 02:35 PM

yeah i agree with you that is why i resort to this forum to ask for ppl who have experienced things 1st hand. I think I'll attend p7 at sunway & mcorange for the 1st term and compare both the lecturers after that. thx megryan for pointing out joey wong.

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 4 2009, 06:12 PM

Hmm, I took F8 under Ms Kiran. She is one lecturer who will force the class to speak up and voice out opinions. If you don't then she'll start complaining. She will also give handouts for you to do questions.. sometimes give you homework and actually check to see whether you've done it or not. Pretty much like a strict secondary school teacher. Most of my friends including myself don't really like her because she kept nagging about how we don't give responses in class. Some even complained that her classes are boring. For me I actually find her way of teaching is quite effective. She makes you think a lot. Give you pressure and force you to write out the answers. MAybe coz I like to be spoon-fed lol. Hmm, I'm actually just an average student so I think relying on her to pass is not a problem unless you're being lazy. I've had a friend who is quite lazy, easy going and hates audit but he passed with 6X marks under Kiran and he told me it's because of her forcing us to write out the answers very often in class. Sometimes you might hate the methodologies certain lecturers use but in the end it's the results that matters. If you don't like pressure and don't like to be forced and treated like kids, don't go for her class. If you like to be spoon-fed and willing to work hard with her, go for it.

Btw, I'm a Sunway Coll student as well. I did CAT,part 2 and now part 3 all under Sunway. You'll feel like you're back in your secondary school when you're at Sunway College. They have had a lot of prize winners etc and they encourage you to outdo & maintain their reputation. In a sense you will feel that you want to be a part of this college, either riding on its reputation or contributing to it. The environment to study is good, it's easy to get food(there are a few restaurants nearby- walking distance), there is a shuttle bus now giving you a free ride to Sunway Pyramid every 20-30minutes & there is a hostel for students who come from faraway places. So imagine after classes, you can just hang out with your friends pretty easily either simply going to eat or go to Sunway Pyramid for a movie. It's a mini campus. When you're involved in societies and clubs it's harder to leave right? There are lot more going on besides the normal go-classes-grind-and-come-back-home kind of thing.

As for Kasturi College which I've been to for p3 IRC, I find that the studying environment cannot be compared with that of Sunway College. The college is just actually a building. When I first reached there I felt like I was attending my SPM biology/history/whatever tuition. Brings back old memories, lol. Just a place to study and then ciao back home. You know like when you attend extra classes at Kasturi for Sejarah or BM or BI whatever in addition to your normal classes in secondary school? It's just a place for you to attend lectures and then go back home (of coz there are lot of food you can try out & shop at petaling street but let's not go there). Just take for example they let you pay separately according to Term 1, Term 2 and IRC. The more subjects you take the more discounts you get, if you recommend ur frens to go there u get some discounts further, you get even more discount if you're an Ex-students all these kind of marketing strategies. You really can change college easily. Just pay for term 1 and if you don't like it, go to another college n pay for term 2 instead. I believe the same goes for McOrange/kolej bandar etc. *not sure about Segi &Inti though. You don't get these kind of privileges at Sunway though.

But I'm here because I want to seek good lecturers. heh. Be it at kasturi/mcorange/segi/inti/capalang college. At the end of the day I know If I pass a hard paper it's not because of the college. It's because of the lecturer who guided me and my own efforts. Using colleges as a basis of comparison for students' performance seem inappropriate. There might be some correlation, but not a perfect indicator & it is absolutely foolish to debate which college is better. It's all about personal preference. Like how I like milk and you don't.

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Jul 6 2009, 03:30 AM

anyone here taking P7 from sheila this sem? The class is rather small like a private tuition lol

bro, if u're willing to throw ur social life away for a few years i tink u dnt hav to worry about the difficult part. especially wen u're working as well @@

Er guys im currently doing my OBU. im just wondering since the results of the OBU for this period of submission will only be out in 31st march 2010 i would have gotten my acca results before this date. I'm doing my last 2 papers so yea definitely i want to apply for jobs. If i pass everything , i wud be applying the job with my ACCA results then my OBU results come later. Does it help in anyway? If it doesn't help a bit I will most probably defer doing the OBU and concentrate on my 2 papers. Not to mention tthe upcoming results......might fail some

Is there anyone taking P6 from sunway (ms Kok) either part time or full time this semester? I need someone to have discussion with (hw/ revision etc). I'm STUCK with no appropriate ppl to discuss with. Thankssssssss PM me pls.

This happened to me and my friends as well. The status on MYACCA is flawed. If you want to verify, email acca they will reply you within 2 working days.

can anyone confirm with me if Fed Terr (UCSI) exam centre code 1983 is the one at connaught?

have anyone got a hard copy of the nov 2009 issue of student accountant magazine? The website says on 4th nov there's an article produced by lisa weaver(P7 examiner) but it's actually the same one from october 2007. I was told that for the last sitting the same article was produced twice in different issues. What's going on? lol

substantive procedure is one of the audit procedures

There are a few audit approaches. Usually the one we studied in T8/F8 is the one talking about Combined Approach (consisting of Test of Control and Substantive Procedures).

Substantive procedures comprise of test of details [test of transactions & test of account balances) and analytical procedures.

According to ISA 520 substantive analytical procedures are mandatory at the preliminary stage of the audit(beginning of the audit) as part of the risk assessment procedures(isa 315) and at the overall review stage of the audit(end of the audit). It is optional during the course of the audit though as tests of details usually come in at this stage.

U should also note what are those factors contributing to the suitability of the usage of substantive analytical procedures as compared to test of details. HOpe IT helps

This post has been edited by fastandfurious: Nov 15 2009, 09:31 PM