Can somebody confirm that Michael Manwaring P3 lecturer is teaching in Inti Subang in July 09? Is it full time or part time? I heard he is quite good.

I heard from my friends that Sunway P3 Mr Dinesh is a new lecturer. Compared to Ms wong, she is better. How about Michael Manwaring? its posted that he is now teaching in Inti Subang this July2009, Wow. so many to choose. How to compare qualities between the 3?

Also, how much is INti fees? expensive, ah? I don't come from rich family.

I hope to see comments from my seniors who experienced the classes.

Thanks for the website. I just saw that INTI subang has 2 lecturers teaching P3- Mr Michael Manwaring and Mr Marcus Ong. Heard Mr Marcus was from Sunway and now he is in subang. My friends said his class is always interesting and very systematic answer exam questions. Also got Mr Parminder - heard his lecture very detail woh. I like lecturer cover many past years questions as well. Gives a feeling of real exam way. Wah... many choices.

Maybe someone can share with me how to best study for P3? Heard its very tough. if can lah, someone who pass oredi yah

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jun 15 2009, 11:35 PM

For those staying in KL area, going for classes there make sense but those of us in Puchong or Sunway difficlut to go down ler. So many choices now in Sunway and subang. I am interested to know what is the "Case Study" that Mr Michael Manwaring P3 Full Time class offers in INTI . I now know he is very effective help us. Can somebody tell me what is this mysterious Case study?

now got Mr Marcus Ong in Inti for P1 and F8, Arshad in Inti for F5 and P5, Mr Philip woo in Taylor for P1, Kwai Fatt also in PJ. No need lah go to KL.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jun 19 2009, 06:59 PM

Ray,

Are you sure or not? I heard Mr. Goh is the best mentor, for he guides you almost every sentence to make sure its up to UK standards. But I didn't hear much about Mr. Marcus. You claimed he is very famous? haha I no hear much about him lah on this obu thingee. But if Mr Goh charges 5+k and he is good then worth it. But the 3k+ by Inti, bit suspicious lah. why so good wan the prize?? Maybe student shd choose Geetha, she looks nice enuf to help lah.sori, i bit kiasu, scared waste money and cannot complete obu if enroll in future.

Wonder Mr Michael Manwaring can teach P3 Inti, sure get do BUsiness topics in OBU wan. Wonder if he does OBU also. If expensive, maybe ok can accept since he so 'geng'.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jun 21 2009, 10:40 PM

I hope i can make it for the talk, Mr Arshad and Mr Marcus Ong give preview talk for P5, F8 . Heard they are also ACCA members like Mr Andrew Pang. Bad news is Sunway increase fees again . guess some medium income parents cannot accept it lor, somemore economy so bad, jobs so little supply, stock market burn many people. I think try pass also need a lot personal effort. can save $ then save for family.

even mr michael manwaring from Uk fees also very attractive than SUnway. Foreigner also understand malaysia market. we not yet rich like UK people mah. guess if money no issue, then can study anywhere. any acca students agree?

Ai ya ya... Don't lah make blanket statement. YOu can never please everyone, not even Gandhi, Prophet Muhammad or Hitler - all got enemies. One man's poison is another's meat.

Mr ANdrew - many years teaching, save to say got many graduates under him
Mr Michael Manwaring - so many years - famous in UK, some say also in Subang Inti ( )
Mr Chow Kim Tai - many years teaching. some more finish acca studies. sure got 'liao' [good ingredients of lecturer]
Mr Marcus Ong - many years teaching. Heard from friends - interesting and effective to get you pass like earlier batches.
Mr Dinesh - many years teaching F1 and last time IT paper P2.1. altho not acca qualified, but students say he is ok.

3 colleges : all got amenities, campus facilities. in fact i think 80% lecturers in Subang inti and taylors more years teaching than compared to young young [some pretty n handsome] lecturers in SUnway. If lecturers think they are gods, then they must be good and very confident of their delivery.Like food stall owners operating many years become c*cky / stuck up. SUnway famous cos lecturers all good good [handsome] wan. of course lah we don't choose on looks lah. we apply 'substance over form' standards.

haha. i know one Director who is very great because of actual achievement. He is fantastic! having largest number of acca students in the world. all so desparate want to register in his college. u check lah newspapers, this is what he said to us. but no mention names ler after kena shot down also.peace peace.
still must say this. very expensive . 30% premium. sighhhh.... feel not justified. other lecturers [as above] also can deliver mah. friends going to register, do not know what to do ler...

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jun 29 2009, 04:30 PM

P3: the more i find out, the more i nervous. outside choices are plenty - highly trained and good value pricing some more. if you stay around Subang/Sunway:
1) Sunway - Mr Dinesh - heard he is ok ok. he just finish teaching P3 for first time (dunno whether risky?) in in 2009 Januari. Seniors gave him presents after last class. so must be a nice lecturer.
2) Inti Subang- Mr Marcus - previously from Sunway. the one who taught P3 all those earlier time before new lecturer (Mr Dinesh) took over. Mr Marcus moved to INTI. (source : earlier postings) u better check this yourself . Heard he is use questions-concentrate style to teach.
3) Sunway - ms wong - seriously, i don't know suddenly where she is comes from. fewer students go her class. so far i heard no complains.
4) INti - Mr manwaring - according to Topace 111 - the Best! heard mr manwaring notes enough to pass!
5) Taylors- Mr Philip - can learn a lot. But you must be independent and do your own studies.

You better call the colleges for the tuition fees. But you should know which one is MOST expensive . if you want quality, majority above except for 1 lecturer - have many years good track record. again don't take my word. F8 will teach you to take independent sources to back up claims. i wish i can just go for first week class, try all then decide. haha then can also feel and see waht are their strong points.

I know many friends still pay, cos parents pay mah. But if i can save 300 per paper, and still pass, y not? i have to work in McDonalds for 10 days only can earn that 300. i feel for my family lah. not rich . i hope u all won't insult me over my family. i work hard pass acca to help my family. my dad works v hard. now my turn to sweat.

I wish is may we ALL, ALL of us graduate from ACCA! Roar!! WE MUST!

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jun 30 2009, 06:09 PM

Thanks Fast & furious. So frank.

1. I tort final level is so important, how can SY give lecturer Mr Dinesh that does direct reading as lectures?
2. Mr Parminder got case studies to use to illustrate. use USA companies to illustrate. take examples, studnets then well read. all rounder.
3. Mr Marcus analysis of current position questions are extremely good and practise lots of questions.
4. Mr Michael Manwaring is believed to be the Best.

IMO: I think Sunway always got confidence that their system is very good. so any lecturers will do. How old are lecturers in years experience teaching versus other tuition providers? Sunway's lecturers are very young, some just finish acca and now teaching or just started teaching a new paper like F5. Ithought they are in the industry many years, how come lecturers relatively so new in the teaching industry? How is the good Sunway system different from KSA or for that matter INTI?

Probably why my friends think no need hassle to change colleges. Sunway just give us what is needed to pass. ANy opinions? SInce under other lecturers also not guarantee pass. Maybe should not use 'guarantee'. maybe less risky to study in Sunway.

I just want to pass. Can help me be more objective-mided? share yr opinions.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 3 2009, 06:02 PM

i know Mr goh teaches P1. he gives many seminars to outside professionals. interact with working world may be ok to keep in touch what is happening to the working world.

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Added on July 4, 2009, 9:12 amI've got two sources recommended F8 lecturers:

Kuala Lumpur area : KSA College Mr Philip Woo, heard he talks like jet plane but you learn a lot. useful also for working life. He gives notes and expects you to read them thoroughly. he also insists that you do a lot of work independently so that you can reinforce your own preparation for the exams. Bear in mind, he travels all the way from Singapore. I am sure he got 'liao' [useful ingredients of lecturer]

Sunway/Subang : Inti College Mr Marcus Ong, he taught last year dec 2008 siting in Sunway college [was his last semester there]. they liked his step by step approach. tricky paper but broken into rational/logical steps. use exam questions-focused approach. Hard core failures [like attempted up to 3 times! I know i feel pain for my fellow classmates too] able to finally passed. they attended under him one time only. but i am sure these candidates worked hard too. so credit also goes to students.

I hope its helpful. Both lecturers teach P1 and P3 also.

But worth noting:

Sunway town : Sunway college F8 lecturer Ms Kiran. Heard she is strict and disciplined . Good for studnets who cannot focus. at f-level, perhaps many students still not mature or serious. they are not focused, so Ms Kiran use a disciplinarian style. u may not able to stomach it but hey, she has Many many studnets in her class!! you can't argue with that fact!! and i said many, many. i believe they must prefer her class, otherwise why would they attend?! logical audit evidence if they can, so can you. she also got prize winners for this paper.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 4 2009, 09:39 AM

I found this on http://www.acca-success.com/ListProduct.as...urer%20Profiles

Joey Wong

Specialises in P7 Advanced Audit & Assurance

An ACCA affiliate, he specialises in Auditing, Business Strategy and related subjects. He regularly conducts training courses locally in Malaysia as well as abroad in China, Cambodia and Vietnam. His special approach in delivering theory papers aims to ensure 100% retention of knowledge. He attained awards in the areas of Financial Accounting and Information Technology (IT) in the course of pursuing his ACCA qualification. Sit back and enjoy his unique approach to lectures while he pilots you towards exam success!

I think he was head hunted by INTI. Taught regularly in 3 Asians countries + Malaysia. so it could not be his first time.

I agree with you, Mr Goh is fully booked for OBU. wasted. should act faster. But can try Inti , got OBU. which is not unlike Sunway which is very 'guie' [expensive] ni think you save well over RM1,000.

Hope info is of help, fast&Furious u the best.

Based on Topace analogy, then SUnway's F8 Lecturer Ms Kiran, must be the best. She draws the largest crowd in town. I mean her class attendance simply huge. Large Lecture Halls size. then can we say, she is the best since she

CAN teach - thats why she got such big student numbers
WILL teach - well of course, otherwise she would do some other jobs, wouldn't she?

By this, conclusion is Ms Kiran is superior to Mr Philip woo and Ms Sheila for F8! Then it can be said that Sunway is a better F8 lecturer. Based on the numbers alone. Democracy rules here or market competition at play here - F5 topic

Care to share your thoughts here? Sunway ex-F8 students who attended her class, can give useful insights?

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 5 2009, 12:02 AM

In recent weeks I have received considerable PM from sunway students wishing to switch to KL & wish to know the experience & almost all of them did it bcos of F8 audit. I do not wish to disclose details why they leave but I think you can find out on your own.

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Well said, Topace. However KLCC still has its advantages namely convenience, location and branding. If a shopper will make serious purchase, say a very nice evening dress, then its justified to make the trip to Starhill, a stone throw away. What i don't understand is the students make ALL their purchases in college. All 100%. In other words, they just buy ordinary "dress", then heavy make-up to compensate the poor dress bought aka lecturer.I tried to tell them there are better lecturers, [so can car pool, hehe] but they refused. lazy-lah equivalent excuses.

... and mind you, we all pay super premium tutiion fees here. I giving up lah.

Human behaviour never cease to amaze. Like USA football, fans are loyal to shirt jersey colour, not players. Mind you, players switch clubs often, but fans don't follow. Good example is Mr Viknes,IF [punt intended] he is good, but why when he left for KB, students didn't follow in droves?? Not in UK, students just follow the lecturers. its not the college name, but "which lecturer can help me pass mentality". Malaysia, maybe its undeveloped market, we students have littel information so didn't exercise right to choose.

So sadly , i'm stuck here. Poor transport. I know u will say take bus/taxi, but trust me going to KL not easy.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 5 2009, 10:55 AM

Perhaps, as claimed by some of you, that the lecturers in Sunway are less superior than those in KL, but one must not be too dependent on lecturers, you have got to do your own revisions, study from the manuals.

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter which college or lecturer, lecturers can only deliver the knowledge, you have to absorb and understand it yourself.

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I cannot help but agree with Karhoe. It depends on you just as much as Lee Chong Wei's skills on the badminton court. But wouldn't you agree that with coaching from expert mentor in departing knowledge and experience, it will certainly enhance the player's skills and thus chances of excelling? By a large margin! All players given are same, namely rackets, sports shoes, youngish age. but what differentiates them are the coaches [ummm.. right spelling?] such as China and Malaysia! Sunway has changed a lot, its lecturers have either left/resigned or left temporarily for overseas assignment. the management puts younger lecturers to do tutorials or the senior lecturers [not many here] upon return will drill us to up to 12 hours classes. this is no joke! when we complain, we were told practically 'take it or leave it'. Individually, we as students are weak in bargaining powers like insisting that Ms Menon should teach the f7 full time classes. [the paper is taken over by a younger lecturer] come on, we pay high tuition fees for the best that Sunway can offer, but were given green horns. ever heard of CAT lecturers put up to teach Prof ACCA level?!

its reasonable to have experienced lecturers to enhance our chances to clear. wouldn't you want top notch coach to hone your skills. so choices are avaiable like:

Subang/Sunway
Inti - Mr michael manwaring [p3] , Mr marcus ong [f8,p1,p3?]
Taylors - Mr philip woo [p3], mr chow kim tai [p4?, p5]

KL - KSA- Mr viknes [f4], mr andrew [f5,p4?,p5]
Orange- Mr haneef [f7, p2], Sheila [f8,p1,p7?]

FORMULA
To clear our exams = perspiration [efforts] + coach [experienced passionate lecturers]

Sunway has changed a lot internally. we are like sardines in audis [no joke] , lecturers are over stressed from travelling. just visit mr goh's room, he is usually packed with OBU students or acca studnets needing his help. productivity rate definitely suffers.

if you say lecturers experience doesn't count 'as much', then i recommend you self-study. you save 100% tuition fees .Since you say they merely delver knowledge. we can get it from the manuals, can't we? I am sure what Karhoe meant that we need to work a lot ourselves. I agree. But wouldn't it be better if there are techniques to use that are effective like Mr andrew's short cuts taught in class or Mr Manwaring "Bluff notes"? i think i get convince my parents to let me go Inti college or Taylors college. they are also in education for decades. sure got 'liao'. an option certainly.

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 7 2009, 11:17 PM

(website stated it)
ACCA F8 AUDIT ASSURENCE

1st ACCA INTERNET VIDEO LECTURE DEMO IN MALAYSIA!

Posted on Youtube also.
“FIRST of its kind in Malaysia!”

This is a confident lecturer with clear explaination. over 10 years experience

This lecturer, Mr Marcus Ong, gave the whole world a preview - F8 Audit Assurance paper on how to do 2 Questions worth 11 marks. My fellow ACCA mates, see for yourself at website mentioned before:

www.acca-success.com

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 9 2009, 10:52 PM

1ST IN MALAYSIA : P5 VIDEO LECTURES IS HERE. P1...coming soon

I think INTI has strong pool of lecturers. Mr Arshad Adam has 15 years experience / specialist in P5 ACCA Advanced PM.

But i still think most of my classmates will stubbornly stick to Sunway. I think they don't like change, maybe they like big auditoriums and many students who then means many many friends or 'handsome hunks' seriously i don't see that many, if any. haha


This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jan 26 2010, 10:55 PM

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jan 26 2010, 10:51 PM

Ha ha I wish. Then i can learn from Mr Marcus, Mr Michael Manwaring, Mr Arshad. hope to work in Taylors also, then can learn from the si fu there also. Notice the P level are dominated by men - Mr Daniel, Mr Chow. got exception like Ms Menon.

anyway, have to wait very long to download the videos. Do not know how long have to wait. Mr Arshad's demo is interesting. my friends never told me their experience in their P5 the need to link here and there. sounds tough but interesting. Anyone taking P5 - share their views?



This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 11 2009, 10:59 PM

For KL in McOrange, heard that Mr Michael Manwaring has over 100 students for P3. the fees 1288. this lecturer must be very good. Those of us in Sunway/Subang/Puchong/surroundiing areas should be thinking of P3 in INTI as fees are 1300. and we must not forget got campus and good shops/food selection choices there.

the bluff notes help students to study express, and quickly do exercises, i think. its proven formula.

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Added on July 12, 2009, 10:29 amCan you ask Mr Philip WOo to have a video lecture too? then we all can compare. he must be good with your testimony. I think with the videos, we can see, evaluate and judge for ourselves. over-sell- everybody does that. Mr Viknes to Mr Andrew. But we can see the videos and see if its really good or not. i like to see a video lecture better than Inti's video demo. then we as students are spoilt for choice.

Only can say in Sunway, we have very poor deal. the lecturers are really bor***. even they claimed they are many years experience. their styles not suitable to many of us. now we can consider other college campuses - TY and Inti, Subang we shoulld just go 'en bloc' , our group of friends so as not to miss them. since we spend so much time with each other. need to encourage and support each other mah. lepak

Earlier, some says rely on yourself and lecturers don't matter. iin this perspective, my friends do matter. if we go, we all go. those don't follow, not 'heng mui' [good buddies] enough. so we shd leave the minority of friends behind.i will be sad of course. but no much alternatives


This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 12 2009, 10:29 AM

Lemongirl,

To my knowledge, you basically change the highlighted specific areas that failed you. example, wrong referencing. But if your entire analysis is weak, then its a whole revamped on report.

If you need a new mentor:

You can try Sunway as its basically mentors guarantee you pass. or else, when you re-submit, you don't need pay extra fees. BUt if the mentor is not satisfied with your work, he/she may refuse to sign the form, thus unable for student to submit.

Also try INTI Subang which I believe its the same 'guarantee' policy except that their fees are more attractive.

This means mentor will try to make sure you pass 1st time or else you can go back and hassle them-ler. a no-win situation for both ler

This post has been edited by MegRyan: Jul 29 2009, 11:45 AM