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 Girls are money minded, And be proud of it.

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post Mar 29 2009, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 04:07 PM)
If you see no wrong in girls being money minded, then don't ever fight for gender equality.  Girls who choose their guys based on money shouldn't complain when their husbands have one affair after another, after all its in our genes to be attracted to pretty young girls.  They will have lost the right to b**** about doing all the cooking, cleaning, child rearing while the husband plays his PS3 all day. 

If money is the criteria for men, then women should shut up, spread their legs and clean the house.
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you;re the type who talk big here only, you dare tell this to your gf or wife (that is even if you do have one) or you musta been badly abuse by your gf thats why all the hate tongue.gif
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Rich scare being rob, rich guy can find pros. Now that is security. Dont see on 1 side only, find some1 with good heart.
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QUOTE(moorish @ Mar 29 2009, 07:56 PM)
you;re the type who talk big here only, you dare tell this to your gf or wife (that is even if you do have one) or you musta been badly abuse by your gf thats why all the hate tongue.gif
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You're not understanding me. I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do not believe that women should be treated like a sex object or as a cook. I'm saying that for those women who choose men based on how rich they are, these women do not deserve gender equality, instead they should be treated like how women were treated thousands of years ago. They should shut up when men are talking, obey when men want sex, and cook when men are hungry.

I did tell this to my gf, and she agrees with me. I treat her as an equal and I expect to be treated the same.

So go on ahead an be proud of choosing a guy based on his cash, but don't you dare complain when he cheats on you with younger sexier girls or when he demands that you shut up and cook.


Women have come a long way from your example of 'thousands of years ago'. Your suggestion of being proud to choose a man based on how rich they are has just set womenkind back a few decades. If I were a woman, I'd hate you.

This post has been edited by parsona: Mar 29 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do not believe that women should be treated like a sex object or as a cook.  I'm saying that for those women who choose men based on how rich they are, these women do not deserve gender equality, instead they should be treated like how women were treated thousands of years ago.  They should shut up when men are talking, obey when men want sex, and cook when men are hungry. 

I did tell this to my gf, and she agrees with me.  I treat her as an equal and I expect to be treated the same. 

So go on ahead an be proud of choosing a guy based on his cash, but don't you dare complain when he cheats on you with younger sexier girls or when he demands that you shut up and cook.
Women have come a long way from your example of 'thousands of years ago'.  Your suggestion of being proud to choose a man based on how rich they are has just set womenkind back a few decades.  If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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post Mar 30 2009, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do not believe that women should be treated like a sex object or as a cook.  I'm saying that for those women who choose men based on how rich they are, these women do not deserve gender equality, instead they should be treated like how women were treated thousands of years ago.  They should shut up when men are talking, obey when men want sex, and cook when men are hungry. 

I did tell this to my gf, and she agrees with me.  I treat her as an equal and I expect to be treated the same. 

So go on ahead an be proud of choosing a guy based on his cash, but don't you dare complain when he cheats on you with younger sexier girls or when he demands that you shut up and cook.
Women have come a long way from your example of 'thousands of years ago'.   Your suggestion of being proud to choose a man based on how rich they are has just set womenkind back a few decades.   If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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why do you think only the rich will cheat? are you implying the poorer are all saints?
Money or status cannot judge if the person is bad, they're bad people at all level of life.
I've seen plenty of rich womanizer man but I've also seen plenty of poor womanizer man.
Are you saying marrying a person base truly on love is the sure way?
I've seen plenty who uses this formula ended up in divorce and walk out empty handed.

QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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There is no need to hate me, you can choose love for all you want if you're girl, you can struggle feeding the baby all you want, it is your life, I'm not your mom to tell you or convince you what to do. but there is a saying:

if your parents are poor it is not your fault
if you husband is poor it is fully your fault.




This post has been edited by moorish: Mar 30 2009, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(moorish @ Mar 29 2009, 12:27 PM)
I fully agree with this quote of yours smile.gif

A lot of people here take things so straight forward without considering the complexity of human, just because I would choose A they prejudge that I'm money minded like a parasite sucking the life out from my husband. But thats not true in reality, I'm thrifty and would rather save money for the children later in life.

I choosed a MYVI instead of CRV, coz i think car is a waste of money buying expensive cars just to show off.
I choosed fake LV instead of the real thing, coz I dun believe in buying a 7K bag, for the purposed of showing off.

I dun mind going shopping on my husbands honda cub thumbup.gif its convenient, now how many chinese girl willing to do that? you tell me.
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Hurmmm, I think I agree with you about this. Now, I can see your points already. Sorry about I got the wrong idea from your previous posts.
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I think men must be rich so that his wife can enjoy a good life lo, who wants their wife to sit behind a restaurant and become a dish washer?
Men and women equal? Not all fields.

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QUOTE(romulus47plus1 @ Mar 30 2009, 10:33 AM)
I think men must be rich so that his wife can enjoy a good life lo, who wants their wife to sit behind a restaurant and become a dish washer?
Men and women equal? Not all fields.
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post Mar 30 2009, 10:56 AM

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"I dun mind going shopping on my husbands honda cub"

I think not and I ride a motorbike, fine at first because everyone deserves a chance, girls do love a man for who they are, but time will change a person.
Everyone of us here speaks their mind which is good and one day, you may develop a different view or learn from others by experience rather than ego talk.

I am afraid a lot of guys will share my fate, this debate is the sign that the girls become money conscious and the guys have to import wives from less developed neighboring countries like what happen to Singapore. A lady who can survive on their own does not have to service the guy and every man want sex even if they can't afford a marriage, so prostitution will raise so as the demand for porno VCD.

Later, girls to average men are see no touch and lead to social problems that are ever increasing, what goes around comes around, I like to see some constructive solutions than releasing tension alone. What an average man can do to meet the challenge not relying on fate or let nature take its course (extinction), girls should be conscious about financial issue but money minded sounds materialistic and that pisses the average guy. Hopping to marry someone loaded is not because you don't have to work.

To the guys, hard working lead you no where until you work smart, winning a girl's heart is just the beginning and you must be aware of the maintenance costs, we go to school so that we can start somewhere but the school does not teach us how to live a life and forge a contingency plan, most of us came to the real world with an attitude.


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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Mar 30 2009, 09:55 AM)
Average is enough already.
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Hmm.... The richer the better mah, but I think I'll be a bachelor for a loooooong time, even if I'm bloody rich in the next few years.
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QUOTE(3dassets @ Mar 30 2009, 10:56 AM)
"I dun mind going shopping on my husbands honda cub"

I think not and I ride a motorbike, fine at first because everyone deserves a chance, girls do love a man for who they are, but time will change a person.
Everyone of us here speaks their mind which is good and one day, you may develop a different view or learn from others by experience rather than ego talk.

I am afraid a lot of guys will share my fate, this debate is the sign that the girls become money conscious and the guys have to import wives from less developed neighboring countries like what happen to Singapore. A lady who can survive on their own does not have to service the guy and every man want sex even if they can't afford a marriage, so prostitution will raise so as the demand for porno VCD.

Later, girls to average men are see no touch and lead to social problems that are ever increasing, what goes around comes around, I like to see some constructive solutions than releasing tension alone. What an average man can do to meet the challenge not relying on fate or let nature take its course (extinction), girls should be conscious about financial issue but money minded sounds materialistic and that pisses the average guy. Hopping to marry someone loaded is not because you don't have to work.

To the guys, hard working lead you no where until you work smart, winning a girl's heart is just the beginning and you must be aware of the maintenance costs, we go to school so that we can start somewhere but the school does not teach us how to live a life and forge a contingency plan, most of us came to the real world with an attitude.
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I come from a poor family, and thank god I've never been suck into the lifestyle thingy, chap fan and roti canai is fine with me. I know my hubby in 03, married at 05, and till today we still go sg wang on his bike on the weekend. I seldom shop at MV or KLCC, prices of cloths are too expensive. A lot of my gf will not get caught riding on a honda cub, status and glamour is important to them. Everyone has the right to choose their lifestyle, nothing wrong with that, but I would like to stick to this down to earth habit as I want to pass this down to my children. I dont want them to grow into a world of pride and ego.

I'm thrifty and down to earth but financial stability is still very important. I agree with you on the part, at first the guy would sweet talk you and love grows, you think you can make it with only love as the base and foundation of your rship, but in this world today especially in city, money is more important to sustain a happy rship in long run.

This post has been edited by moorish: Mar 30 2009, 12:00 PM
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post Mar 30 2009, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(moorish @ Mar 30 2009, 09:29 AM)
why do you think only the rich will cheat? are you implying the poorer are all saints?
Money or status cannot judge if the person is bad, they're bad people at all level of life.
I've seen plenty of rich womanizer man but I've also seen plenty of poor womanizer man.
Are you saying marrying a person base truly on love is the sure way?
I've seen plenty who uses this formula ended up in divorce and walk out empty handed.
There is no need to hate me, you can choose love for all you want if you're girl, you can struggle feeding the baby all you want, it is your life, I'm not your mom to tell you or convince you what to do.  but there is a saying:

if your parents are poor it is not your fault
if you husband is poor it is fully your fault.
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You still do not understand. You are just trying to justify your own money mindedness by assuming beforehand that all men will cheat so might as well take his money before he does. No one is saying that poor men do not cheat, but what I'm trying to say is that when you choose money over love, you have lost the right to demand a good husband-wife relationship. Your husband may or may not cheat or treat you like dirt if you choose him based on money, but morally you've already lost, the moment you said your vows to him.

If you really are not the materialistic kind but just require a stable husband, I think thats totally fine. Your topic however is misleading and promotes girls to choose rich guys only. If I were a girl, my principles would be:

I will only allow a man that is self sustaining as well as capable to give my kids a basic life to marry me. He need not be rich, need not be able to buy me a Coach bag but he must at least have a steady income and show that he is a responsible person that can get and keep a job. If I want my kids to have something better than a basic life, I understand that it will be my responsibility as much as his to provide and cater for it, it will not be solely my hubby's responsibility. This is called gender equality.

The problem with your view is that you think the husband is duty bound to provide everything while the wife probably just earns her own money to enjoy herself. A marriage should be a shared responsibility, so if you choose a man based on how rich it is, theres no other name to call you other than a money grabbing whore. If you choose a man that is proven to be responsible and self sustaining, then its called being realistic.


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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 30 2009, 11:59 AM)
You still do not understand.  You are just trying to justify your own money mindedness by assuming beforehand that all men will cheat so might as well take his money before he does.  No one is saying that poor men do not cheat, but what I'm trying to say is that when you choose money over love, you have lost the right to demand a good husband-wife relationship.  Your husband may or may not cheat or treat you like dirt if you choose him based on money, but morally you've already lost, the moment you said your vows to him. 
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From the first post it is obvious both man is head over heal for the girl, so the chances of both gets corrupted later is equal. But you put it as if the rich will change while the poorer one will remain adamant which is not true in real life.

QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 30 2009, 11:59 AM)
If you really are not the materialistic kind but just require a stable husband, I think thats totally fine.  Your topic however is misleading and promotes girls to choose rich guys only.  If I were a girl, my principles would be:

I will only allow a man that is self sustaining as well as capable to give my kids a basic life to marry me.  He need not be rich, need not be able to buy me a Coach bag but he must at least have a steady income and show that he is a responsible person that can get and keep a job.  If I want my kids to have something better than a basic life, I understand that it will be my responsibility as much as his to provide and cater for it, it will not be solely my hubby's responsibility.  This is called gender equality. 

The problem with your view is that you think the husband is duty bound to provide everything while the wife probably just earns her own money to enjoy herself.  A marriage should be a shared responsibility, so if you choose a man based on how rich it is, theres no other name to call you other than a money grabbing whore.  If you choose a man that is proven to be responsible and self sustaining, then its called being realistic.
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Everyone in this world is looking for Mr.Right or Mr.Perfect, I'm not saying this man do not exist but maybe only 0.0001% of girl in this world will get to marry this elusive man. The other 99.999% will have to settle for someone lesser, and here is why give and take have to be weight.

Love is something exciting in the beginning but eventually love subside and reality kicks in, struggling putting dinner on the table is not exactly romantic and will sap the love so quickly like you've been electrocuted.

You talk about equality, do you like to come home to a house clean and tidy, where warm food are cooked and a glass of coffee made for you after dinner?

This post has been edited by moorish: Mar 30 2009, 12:30 PM
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TS should close this thread, it's becoming flame topic
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QUOTE(InitialB @ Mar 30 2009, 12:41 PM)
TS should close this thread, it's becoming flame topic
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QUOTE(parsona @ Mar 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
You're not understanding me.  I'm the type that believes in equality in all, be it race or gender, hence I do not believe that women should be treated like a sex object or as a cook.  I'm saying that for those women who choose men based on how rich they are, these women do not deserve gender equality, instead they should be treated like how women were treated thousands of years ago.  They should shut up when men are talking, obey when men want sex, and cook when men are hungry. 

I did tell this to my gf, and she agrees with me.  I treat her as an equal and I expect to be treated the same. 

So go on ahead an be proud of choosing a guy based on his cash, but don't you dare complain when he cheats on you with younger sexier girls or when he demands that you shut up and cook.
Women have come a long way from your example of 'thousands of years ago'.  Your suggestion of being proud to choose a man based on how rich they are has just set womenkind back a few decades.  If I were a woman, I'd hate you.
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Your advise to choose a husband in terms of monetary value is seriously flawed.

So lets say

A. Not very rich. But hardworking, industrious, thrifty, saves every penny, smart in investing, a natural entrepreneur. This category fits a lot of young adults these days.

B. Rich. Drives a sports car, father's a datuk in big time corporation. Holds a managing position in dad's company.

If we follow your advise, I guess you will ask the girl to go for B isnt it? Even if she doesnt love B at all.

Tsk tsk tsk how narrow minded women these days are.

By the way I was the A guy. My fiancee chose me over B. I wonder why eh?


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