and she edited it because she realised she posted horseshit on 1st post.

Shallow ...haha, the pot calling the kettle black.

Yes yes I'm very shallow, I go only for rich wives and guys who go for poor wives are stupid and immature.  And to those guys who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the father instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

Yes I'm so shallow. God help me. LOL.

The words you applied for her baby here doesn't actually show intention of making fun of her baby but since moorish has had a bad impression on you in the debate earlier on, therefore logically she is now a bit sensitive on the post you put your avatar and her baby's together.

Take it easy, brother.

Shallow ...haha, the pot calling the kettle black.

Yes yes I'm very shallow, I go only for rich wives and guys who go for poor wives are stupid and immature.  And to those guys who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the father instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

Yes I'm so shallow. God help me. LOL.

Fully agree, but there are also something people would definitely do for money right?

When you've a wife you'll understand how important money is, everything is about money money money, she is money minded but doesnt mean she is an animal. We buy groceries, we know exactly how much is fish per kg and which stall gives better price, everyday we think of money.

Maybe you're not accepting this, lemme ask you a normal OL works in a nice big corporation, then a really really charming boy wants to date her, he works in a renovating company, he do partition, earns 1.5k a month, this is a true story, very very honest boy. You think she will go dating with him?

10 out of 10 girls I introduce will tell me if so good why you didnt date him? They would expect to date a guy at par with their earning and society class at par with them. This is still shunning off a good boy. I dun blame the girls because they've set a standard for themselves and who am I to tell them to lower it?

But when I proceed to accuse them they;re money minded, they would say no I am not, I'm a good girl whos looking for a good capable husband because in future when expenses runs higher I would expect him to be able to meet up.

I'm expressing generally girls are money minded, of coz mother teresa is not money minded.

emm... living beings will open up themselves when the 'price' is just right..

Its a trade of equivalent value

Yes. And girls acknowledge this fact. Why cant guys?

Girl know we want them to look pretty hence all the trouble they take to look pretty. Do they complain?

For your kind perusal:

Hello. Dont use office language here. Its inappropriate.

For your kind perusal:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=29081533

I ask you a direct question, and you answer the opposite of what I ask? You're incredibly selfish, arrogant, and narcissistic to think that your husband's life is just entirely filled with you, as though as a person he has no other purpose or function. What the heck is he to you? A tool to fulfil your needs? Is that all you see him as? Is it so hard for you to just list a few things that defines him for who he is? Perhaps like how he's such a selfless person? or perhaps his confidence and how he carries himself? treats his parents/relatives? or how he is driven and motivated? his unique style of thinking? etc. etc. etc.

After dating a person for so long, being married and having his child. Simple stuff like that doesn't even cross your mind when you think about him? How incredibly self centred you are moorish.

Shallow ...haha, the pot calling the kettle black.

Yes yes I'm very shallow, I go only for rich wives and guys who go for poor wives are stupid and immature.  And to those guys who insist love is more important, they're just immature and the father instinct not kick in yet, after few years of marriage they'll regret of their choice.

Yes I'm so shallow. God help me. LOL.

Does the link suppose to change the fact that I still think that TS is a very money-minded person?

  I only add in words, below my original post because many phail to understand, I did not delete anything on the original post

How do you define "money-minded"?

There are mainly 2:
Those who go for materialistic enjoyment
Those who aim financial security for uncertainties in the future

You've mentioned it in one of your posts.

I've wrote so much I cant really remember exactly what I wrote, some part are advise like be defensive about ourselves and so on I believe.

So what if you didn't start the trend? Just because its the trend, you're going to follow it? Its a human trend in history to kill people, do you want to be killing people? No, I don't think so. Just because its the trend, doesn't mean you can't break from it. The same thing applies to the current situation, I'm not saying that you should give up the requirement of having a capable husband, but I'm saying that you should be focusing more on the person himself, rather than what the person has materially.

The intention is to start a family, so focusing on the wealth part meaning I wont date a blue worker who earns 1.5k salary is to save time I think or simply not my taste I duno.

But the part of clicking with him and comfortable that I can rely on this person also important, as mention over again.




What you say, what you mean, and what you imply, can all mean different things. Did you know that? The choice of words you use, even if you're translating from a different language, carry different implications, even if they mean the same thing. For example, I know that saying, but if I were to explain to a girl who is naively telling me love conquers all, I'm not going to say "you need a rich partner" or "go marry a rich man". I'm going to tell her that its important that her partner is able to support a family, how money will stress a relationship and how her partner must also realise its importance.

Do you see the difference in approach here?

Then it will be a wall of text if we try to cover every corner which isnt practical right? this is a forum and I'm not writting a book.

First, I'm not saying you're immoral for using his money. I expect to pay for my partner and my wife, and I expect to be able to support my family. However, if my partner is choosing me because of my money, and not because she likes me as a person, then I'm not going to want to be with such a person.

Same with if my husband choose me because he finds me beautiful and only wan the sex part then I wouldnt wanna marry him either

Being swept off your feet is fine and all, it is afterall those extra points that will often differentiate one guy from another. The question is, can you see the person's qualities for what they are and not how it pertains to you?

Well this is a long story, but something very outstanding about my hubby is how charitable he is, b4 knowing him I really dun bother much, I mostly or as many like to put selfishly think about myself, but after I know him, I got involve into many things he do.

He is a member of Malaysia Spinal cord association and he helps out a lot, he is in very close contact with members there and visit UMMC to help out on new spinal cord injury victim, he regularly participate in a lot of private charity event. So I guess this part I was really move with him.

plenty other things but will be too long to write






Wow, do you seriously want to use such a pathetic argument? In case you do not know, the killing in this world hasn't stopped, if anything it just keeps continuing. Do you really think playing the ps3 curbs our violent tendencies? No, its our education that curbs that, its how we're brought up, if you're not brought up the right way, whether you play a violent game or not, you're going to act violent.

I'm saying the part about violent, I notice man likes violent movie, or violent games like fishing


Its important, but the actual issues to discuss are different. I'll make a RWI topic for it later, and I would like your input on it
No, its you who fails to recognise what you're implying.
In my case, its because you're propagating a disgusting mentality which I believe hurts relationships in the long term. Your actual point itself may be ok, but what you say has its implications which you're simply not aware of.

agree, coz most time I write things fast fast


Wow, complete and utter fail of comprehension? That entire paragraph was talking about how a relationship will be stressed without money. Means if rich --> no money. If poor --> no money. At least with the poor relationship, wealth wasn't a deciding factor in the relationship, so its more likely to last.

sorry if I got your point wrongly, too many to reply not only from yu but many others and I've limited time.
anyway I think its in fairytales if money is not involve, and wouldnt be fair right because you and I know top cases of family fight involve money.

Our approach in this is completely different. I realise the importance of money and I know it can be an issue, which is why I focus on character so that the lack/abundance of money becomes a non-issue. When stressed due to lack of money, it would be tough, but at least I know my partner is in with me for who I am, not for what I've lost.

I again speak of my experience, with my first bum bf I loved him but I did hint many times about how are we gonna start a family...seems impossible, coz he tells me things like make do which I'm afraid, coz I panic, what if get sick and so on and we've no money? I dont feel secure with him.

With my hubby things were different, I feel secure, but I didnt marry him straight right, we dated for 2 years b4 getting married, what I wanna say is I pick a successful man and then try to let love blossom from there, so everything else remains the same. Its like hubby notice me from the crowd because of my look, but I wont be worrying sick everyday what if I turn old and he leave me for a young and beautiful girl later bcoz last time he got attracted to me because of look.

same as the other way round I got attracted to him because he was successful, but later I learn to love him and married him. So I think yes I will stick to him thru thick or thin.




Indeed it is, and if shit hits the fan in your family's finances, how much would you be worth on the market moorish? At what price would you be bought out? Remember, you did mention that everyone has their price, and that implies, you yourself, have a price.

you implying I would leave him when he is down? I dun think so, I cherish all the happiness he has given me, I think he is godsend.


I ask you a direct question, and you answer the opposite of what I ask? You're incredibly selfish, arrogant, and narcissistic to think that your husband's life is just entirely filled with you, as though as a person he has no other purpose or function. What the heck is he to you? A tool to fulfil your needs? Is that all you see him as? Is it so hard for you to just list a few things that defines him for who he is? Perhaps like how he's such a selfless person? or perhaps his confidence and how he carries himself? treats his parents/relatives? or how he is driven and motivated? his unique style of thinking? etc. etc. etc.


After dating a person for so long, being married and having his child. Simple stuff like that doesn't even cross your mind when you think about him? How incredibly self centred you are moorish.

You like to judge a person as arrogant and selfish, I think you're arrogant and always think your thoughts and egos are the center of the universe, just because a few phailed debater says you;re good yuo're all high up there. To me you're just another forumer with a hurt egos, only differences are you're extra long winded.

I dun feel comfortable telling things he do as I think charity things are best kept private, since you insist I've posted it up there. and there plenty more which I wont tell. But the charity part is the one that really really strike deep into me.

So u admit ur earlier posting is VERY misleading and might caused BAD influence to GIRLS if they understd wrongly.

Next time think properly first before take action and its outcome consequences.

Yeah.. PROUD OF IT. 

Ya.. she likes to spin around to cover her obviously earlier mistake... or else she wont edited her front page post.

I ask her direct simple questions also she cant give a proper answer. After kena shoot den diam diam ady..

i'm proving not all human are money minded as you claim, and you give me another irrelevant fact that i already known
money is important but not more important than or even equivalent to the character of your love one itself

do you think its a good idea if a 1k earner gets married and have 10 children and live in KL ...they do really really love each other, and they're staunch christian who do not believe in condom.


since when everything is about money in relationship ? so when your hushband want sex, you said to him, i wan money ?, no right ?

you;re playing catching words, understood la when say everything means most of the things, you think I will reread what I write b4 posting? I;ve so many to answer


there lies your assumption based on 10 girls, where this world contain billions of it, are so sure that every single of them will give the same respon ?

I hvnt the time to try all, again this means majority and I find it good enuf sample to say this.
If you want to win by biting words then you should have proven me wrong by saying mother teresa is not money minded, simple isnt it?.

lower and high expectation are all choices, some people prefer look over money, some prefer maturity over money, you can't simply said all are them are the same for you because you like money the most in a relationship compare to others

of cos not every girl is like that, plenty wish they can but not all have the chance, otherwise the poor people all no need to get married and no divorce case of money would exist

nope you have done more than expressing itself, one of it is bragging, notice the last line in the tittle itself "proud of it"

It is not bragging, it is just bold to admit which many do it but deny it.

i mean when price = money, and money can't buy everything ler friend
agree money cant buy everything, but money can buy almost everything.

average looking girls will complain
incapable guys find my theory a problem too

you phailed to understand and yet wanna complaint??? 
Just shows how poor you comprehend things, I edit it to make it simpler for you to understand...and yes thats an insult.

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Added on October 8, 2009, 4:17 pm

I did answer you right? unless again you didnt understand. infact I think I answer you 3 times    

you shouldnt ask complicated question if you;'ve poor comprehension, btw this is not court right? yes or no?

if you want yes or no answer, ask simple question like are you a girl?

Why u want to make it simpler for ppl to understd if there are so many ppl here are against u?
They also have poor judgement? How many ppl here beside debbieyss and few puny tat hlp cover ur back ?
Tot u said market are alwys rite?

If the msg u want to pass ard is wrong, pls brave enuf and admit la.... dun spin around and give lame excuses.

You are the one that have poor comprehension on my questions and give poor answers coz u are so far out from the actual
situation FACT given.

Why u want to make it simpler for ppl to understd if there are so many ppl here are against u?
They also have poor judgement? How many ppl here beside debbieyss and few puny tat hlp cover ur back ?
Tot u said market are alwys rite?

If the msg u want to pass ard is wrong, pls brave enuf and admit la.... dun spin around and give lame excuses.

You are the one that have poor comprehension on my questions and give poor answers coz u are so far out from the actual
situation FACT given.