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 [zeist] transformation 2009, now or never....!

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post Mar 30 2009, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 27 2009, 05:14 PM)
Full squat.

According to my friend today, a doctor, he says that we musn't do full squat, in the long run the knee will be injured.

Today I tried 80% go down, it is slightly easier. I'm able to do 3 reps at 80kg. If do full squat, I really need to scream to get up, lulz!
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QUOTE(wallpaper89 @ Mar 27 2009, 07:53 PM)
When I first started doing back also no feel on the back... But after a few months the muscle develops, your form improves and you can actually feel there is muscle there. And with muscles there, you will feel sore the next day after a back workout.

That's what I believe anyway, no evidence to back it up though, just personal experience.
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Muscle-mind connection perhaps? laugh.gif
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I love your determination! =D Keep going!
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post Apr 1 2009, 02:32 PM

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zeist-kor: I think burning calories is pretty much burning fat if you are doing cardio. I dont quite understand when you say cardio burn calory but not the fat. Swimming is a form of cardio.

I dont think swimming could be better or worse than other form of cardio such as cycling or jogging or rowing.

The intensity of the cardio may have certain bearing whether the cardio tend to tweak you to do aerobic or anaerobic exercise. They burn calories in different manner. Perhaps others with more knowledge on this can explain better than me.....
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The fat analyzer is cacated.
A lot of things can affect it... before or after exercise, feet are clean or dirty, wet or dry surface, suddenly drink lots of water, you're dehydrated, etc...
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QUOTE(tengster @ Apr 1 2009, 02:32 PM)
zeist-kor: I think burning calories is pretty much burning fat if you are doing cardio. I dont quite understand when you say cardio burn calory but not the fat. Swimming is a form of cardio.

I dont think swimming could be better or worse than other form of cardio such as cycling or jogging or rowing.

The intensity of the cardio may have certain bearing whether the cardio tend to tweak you to do aerobic or anaerobic exercise. They burn calories in different manner. Perhaps others with more knowledge on this can explain better than me.....
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It will burn the fat, but not much. I don't know, I just feel that cardio will only make one from big to small, but not killing all fats. But swimming is different, working on all body parts, and if you do freestyle, imagine you are swinging the stomach area....

Swimming = Aerobic, yeah.

But those cardio at gyms I don't think so. Unless you are talking about classes like bodycombat, bodyjam and etc. Bodyjam is good.These cardio exercise are definitely as good as swimming. Good for fat loss.

This is for me body, I don't know about you guise.
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Earlier I did 14 different workouts, some 3 sets, some 2 sets. About 1.5hour, almost like a deadman. Rest 1 minute between workouts, rest 30 seconds between sets.

I think I need to remove some, or split them into 2 group, or 3.

Maybe 8 different workouts a day. It's freaking tiring.
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I'd advise you to cut down on the amount of workouts you're doing every day. After all, you don't want to overtrain. Doing too much is just as good as doing nothing at all. =/

Still, it's your choice ultimately.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 1 2009, 02:01 PM)
Thanks man. I probably going to be very tired starting from today. Going to bed as early as 9pm+. I wake up at 6:30am daily.

I've compiled 25 fat loss workouts in my book. Going to do all of them later, each workout 3 sets. Probably need at least 2hour. Will be doing less cardio at gym from today onwards, since I'm go for swim in the morning. Just 10 minute as warm up is sufficient. Cardio will only burn calories, won't get rid of fats. Swimming might be better in burning fats.
My new workout schedule....

Monday = Swimming 2 hours, Chest, Tricep, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Tuesday = Swimming 2 hours, Legs, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Wednesday = Swimming 2 hours, 120reps sit up, 25 fat loss workout (3 sets each)

Thursday = Swimming 2 hours, Shoulder, Traps, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Friday = Swimming 2 hours, Bicep, Forearm, Back, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Saturday = Swimming 2 hours, 120reps sit up, 25 fat loss workout (3 sets each)

Sunday = Swimming 2 hours, 60reps sit up

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i just LOL when i read your new plan...
muscle need time to recover, you train 7 days per week, no rest, how can they gain?

Cardio will only burn calories, won't get rid of fats. Swimming might be better in burning fats.


Swimming is cardio smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2009, 10:23 PM

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Plus doing a few hundred situps a day won't make your abs visible too. Try a little variation. smile.gif Train your obliques and diff parts of the abdominals. If you can manage to pump 100+ situps a day and still manage to continue it everyday, means you are not giving them a good enough pump and will eventually lead to muscle fatigue. I only train my abs once or twice a week.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 1 2009, 09:14 PM)
I'd advise you to cut down on the amount of workouts you're doing every day. After all, you don't want to overtrain. Doing too much is just as good as doing nothing at all. =/

Still, it's your choice ultimately.
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I tried today but I'm already koyak to the max, no more strength. I think I need to make it lesser, around 5 fat loss workouts. It won't take me long. Around 15mins. Nevermind, sikit sikit lama lama kasi hilang semua.

QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 1 2009, 10:23 PM)
Plus doing a few hundred situps a day won't make your abs visible too. Try a little variation. smile.gif Train your obliques and diff parts of the abdominals. If you can manage to pump 100+ situps a day and still manage to continue it everyday, means you are not giving them a good enough pump and will eventually lead to muscle fatigue. I only train my abs once or twice a week.
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The most effective sit up for me is using a bench, incline sit up. Maybe I should do for 2 days, rest 1 day, then continue again...

If I use the bench, I'll definitely can feel the koyak orgasm, but doing it at gym I could only feel the burning when doing it, but not muscle koyak.

Bench sit up is the best IMO.


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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 2 2009, 07:22 PM)
I tried today but I'm already koyak to the max, no more strength. I think I need to make it lesser, around 5 fat loss workouts. It won't take me long. Around 15mins. Nevermind, sikit sikit lama lama kasi hilang semua.
As long as you keep the intensity high, it doesn't really matter if your workouts don't take very long.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 2 2009, 07:26 PM)
As long as you keep the intensity high, it doesn't really matter if your workouts don't take very long.
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How many sets do you normally do? 10 reps each?

I'll redo my workout schedule again this weekend. Tomorrow morning going for swimming.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 2 2009, 08:28 PM)
How many sets do you normally do? 10 reps each?

I'll redo my workout schedule again this weekend. Tomorrow morning going for swimming.
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Usually, 2-4 sets depending on exercise/muscle group with 6-12 reps and 1/2 warmup sets with 15-25 reps.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 1 2009, 03:01 PM)
Thanks man. I probably going to be very tired starting from today. Going to bed as early as 9pm+. I wake up at 6:30am daily.

I've compiled 25 fat loss workouts in my book. Going to do all of them later, each workout 3 sets. Probably need at least 2hour. Will be doing less cardio at gym from today onwards, since I'm go for swim in the morning. Just 10 minute as warm up is sufficient. Cardio will only burn calories, won't get rid of fats. Swimming might be better in burning fats.
My new workout schedule....

Monday = Swimming 2 hours, Chest, Tricep, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Tuesday = Swimming 2 hours, Legs, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Wednesday = Swimming 2 hours, 120reps sit up, 25 fat loss workout (3 sets each)

Thursday = Swimming 2 hours, Shoulder, Traps, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Friday = Swimming 2 hours, Bicep, Forearm, Back, 120reps sit up, 12 fat loss workout (2 sets each)

Saturday = Swimming 2 hours, 120reps sit up, 25 fat loss workout (3 sets each)

Sunday = Swimming 2 hours, 60reps sit up

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I'm very impressed , especially looking at the determination to loose the gut but mate, this ain't going to do you good. You don't rest and you live by the book a little too much smile.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 2 2009, 08:22 PM)
I tried today but I'm already koyak to the max, no more strength. I think I need to make it lesser, around 5 fat loss workouts. It won't take me long. Around 15mins. Nevermind, sikit sikit lama lama kasi hilang semua.
The most effective sit up for me is using a bench, incline sit up. Maybe I should do for 2 days, rest 1 day, then continue again...

If I use the bench, I'll definitely can feel the koyak orgasm, but doing it at gym I could only feel the burning when doing it, but not muscle koyak.

Bench sit up is the best IMO.
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Once again there's no such thing as spot reduction, you can't only stick to one type of ab exercise, which in your case is incline sit ups. For me I find sit ups ineffective in hitting the abs. Fine I can pump out over a hundred of those but doing that just won't make your abs pop out. Read some articles on bb.com for the abdominals.

Quantity doesn't mean quality workouts.
For my ab workouts, I do sit ups, cross legged sit ups, leg raises, hanging leg raises, side crunches and body twists, total 3 sets of 15 reps each. The abs doesn't only consist of one muscle, it has upper, middle, lower parts and the obliques. Target them all. One ab day for me= 3 days of ab pain.

Just my 2 cents.
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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 2 2009, 08:46 PM)
Usually, 2-4 sets depending on exercise/muscle group with 6-12 reps and 1/2 warmup sets with 15-25 reps.
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Today was horrible. Morning I went for swimming. Did 50 laps "holanpik" pool size (froggie style), 1hour 50minutes. 5 sets (10laps each), 5 minutes rest each set. When I got home I feel damn tired, lie down on bed to have a short rest. After 3 hours I head to gym. 2nd bicep workout, first set only managed to do 6 reps, that's is HORRIBLE!! mad.gif vmad.gif

I then rest for 5 minutes, then I try again, still can't complete the first set. I know I'm done for today. Koyak to the max. All my energy are finished. But earlier, I was able to do deadlift, bent over row, upper back and lower back machines. I can't even do lats. Then I do bicep curl as warm up 15lbs, 20lbs, 25lbs (3 sets). Then afterthat game over.

No more swimming in the morning. Jogging can. Swimming maybe on weekends only.

Tomorrow I'm going to do bicep and forearm again. Not satisfied because I can be sure tomorrow no koyak orgasm for me. sad.gif

QUOTE(John91 @ Apr 2 2009, 09:14 PM)
Once again there's no such thing as spot reduction, you can't only stick to one type of ab exercise, which in your case is incline sit ups. For me I find sit ups ineffective in hitting the abs. Fine I can pump out over a hundred of those but doing that just won't make your abs pop out. Read some articles on bb.com for the abdominals.

Quantity doesn't mean quality workouts.
For my ab workouts, I do sit ups, cross legged sit ups, leg raises, hanging leg raises, side crunches and body twists, total 3 sets of 15 reps each. The abs doesn't only consist of one muscle, it has upper, middle, lower parts and the obliques. Target them all. One ab day for me= 3 days of ab pain.

Just my 2 cents.
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I iz are agree with you. I want 6 packs but not now, I'm just trying to burn the fat by doing sit up though is just minimal (as long I can feel the burning, that's good). That's why I don't do all abs workout, that is not my goal now to have 6 packs. I'll do like this... today abs, next day rest, day after abs, rest again....

I know killing the fats is not easy, but I'm giving my best.

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QUOTE(zeist @ Apr 3 2009, 07:24 PM)
Today was horrible. Morning I went for swimming. Did 50 laps "holanpik" pool size (froggie style), 1hour 50minutes. 5 sets (10laps each), 5 minutes rest each set. When I got home I feel damn tired, lie down on bed to have a short rest. After 3 hours I head to gym. 2nd bicep workout, first set only managed to do 6 reps, that's is HORRIBLE!!  mad.gif  vmad.gif

I then rest for 5 minutes, then I try again, still can't complete the first set. I know I'm done for today. Koyak to the max. All my energy are finished. But earlier, I was able to do deadlift, bent over row, upper back and lower back machines. I can't even do lats. Then I do bicep curl as warm up 15lbs, 20lbs, 25lbs (3 sets). Then afterthat game over.

No more swimming in the morning. Jogging can. Swimming maybe on weekends only.

Tomorrow I'm going to do bicep and forearm again. Not satisfied because I can be sure tomorrow no koyak orgasm for me.  sad.gif
I iz are agree with you. I want 6 packs but not now, I'm just trying to burn the fat by doing sit up though is just minimal (as long I can feel the burning, that's good). That's why I don't do all abs workout, that is not my goal now to have 6 packs. I'll do like this... today abs, next day rest, day after abs, rest again....

I know killing the fats is not easy, but I'm giving my best.
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Your muscles are fatigued, that's why you didn't have the strength to do your usual stuff. My advise would be to tone down your training regime. Not to the point where there's no gains at all, but to where it's manageable.

The 'burn' you feel from doing sit-ups is most probably just your muscles working hard. It won't get rid of the fat above them. I've been down that road before. doh.gif

Anyway, your determination is really admirable. Make sure you don't tone that down! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Apr 3 2009, 07:53 PM)
Your muscles are fatigued, that's why you didn't have the strength to do your usual stuff. My advise would be to tone down your training regime. Not to the point where there's no gains at all, but to where it's manageable.

The 'burn' you feel from doing sit-ups is most probably just your muscles working hard. It won't get rid of the fat above them. I've been down that road before.  doh.gif

Anyway, your determination is really admirable. Make sure you don't tone that down!  tongue.gif
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Yes, going to change everything again. Definitely something new. Can't be doing the same thing again, since I know it's not working.

If that is the case, then I'll stop doing sit up for now.

Won't, because I love exercising and sweating. Just 2 hours a day to have a healthy life. rolleyes.gif

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