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 V2. Swiftlet Keeping Discussion, Home of Fuciphagus Domesticus

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kuching_farmer
post Jun 3 2009, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(West Wing @ Jun 3 2009, 04:46 PM)
You tell me......as for me, I am still trying to remember what I did and I con't get the right formula, my XO formula....must be the wrong amount of the ingredients and maybe it is the timing....all playing very important part in creating  a powerful punch. As the guy say, go and buy but what assurance can you get? refund if so, then I wil also buy. Wrong Aroma can create worst nightmare for your BH and that's why, I also tell my friends, try a little at one location first and if good, then only apply to the rest of the BH. One wrong mistake, what you have also gone.


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sorry la i donno if it"s proven....!
my new standalone have 100 birds inside in 32days or maybe my sound is just too good...

but what i gonna say is Thanks to Pak Han aroma menthod....
sorry...forgot to mention to those who need aroma dun mind call brother chanK he will get u a better aroma if u need.
sorry la brother revel some aroma menthod...just give a bit tipsy ma
u all know ma those aroma creator oso need some reward to created those aroma ma.....they sacrified theri farm just to test the aroma and u ppl just a few words and want to get the kung fu script.mana ada free lunch in this world.

but i am heng -ahh maybe last life do more [kong-tek] this life somany free lunch till dinner...!
tiam-tiam kasi u tahu then this field sudah jadi pasar malam di jalan pasar lor...am i right!
the creator can harvest multi kg but only sell u his miricle SKII aroma water just 5litres rm280... [ai ho E tan chiak la]
which 1 u choose sell nests or selling aroma...he had prove his farm already so many nests.still there dreaming ok kah his aroma goodka....like this u w8 lor till i got 1000 nests then i prove u ok...
sorry never talkcock in this forum so long
Hau Sui Tor Ko Cha.
today i abit sot-sot.sorry if i step some1 tail

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ChanK
post Jun 3 2009, 09:40 PM

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100 birds in one month .....




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drool.gif lau hau shui liao.......




much stronger aroma??...have....will let u all know when u come to jakarta this aug....


cheers.gif tell u while `Yum Sing' in the louge.....




see.....why you all still wait??.....Lim chan koon showed you where the swiftlet's population in sarawak....why u still sit there liked Soh Loh in peninsular and still waiting for birds to enter your farm??.....


Aroma.....can help...but location help most.....


Swim...my friends....Swim!!!!!......



today so free.....guess had enough to makan this month, can take a good rest liao!!!.... cool2.gif



aii....now only 3 of june err.......ai ya......what to do with the rest one month???

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kuching_farmer
post Jun 3 2009, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jun 3 2009, 09:40 PM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif
100 birds in one month .....
shocking.gif  shocking.gif
drool.gif   lau hau shui liao.......
much stronger aroma??...have....will let u all know when u come to jakarta this aug....
cheers.gif  tell u while `Yum Sing' in the louge.....
see.....why you all still wait??.....Lim chan koon showed you where the swiftlet's population in sarawak....why u still sit there liked Soh Loh in peninsular and still waiting for birds to enter your farm??.....
Aroma.....can help...but location help most.....
Swim...my friends....Swim!!!!!......
today so free.....guess had enough to makan this month, can take a good rest liao!!!....  cool2.gif
aii....now only 3 of june err.......ai ya......what to do with the rest one month???
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sorry CK forget to tell u ,while test stress sound not more than 10 birds come and i build farm...

i had use ur NP aroma too CK

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post Jun 3 2009, 11:06 PM

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Test 10 birds come with stress sound....n 100 birds in one month.....




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biggrin.gif don't be surprise brother....


they are those farmers from peninsular test stress sound and have 1000 birds come n play.....

and their farms still only 20 nests after one year..... oops.gif





so, why liked that?? doh.gif



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post Jun 4 2009, 09:14 AM

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Kuching Farmer you better go to KT and fill up the hollow BH. No need to make excuses failure means failure, nothing more nothing less. Why so stupid to spent good money when you know thet the area is not suitable.,but when I went with Harry Kok to Trok area the sky is full of birds ! Technic Lah ! Kuching Farmer shut up and keep secret to yourself.

My sifu say Quote" 5% luck 95% skill" think about it.
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post Jun 5 2009, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Feb 17 2009, 12:54 PM)
Well done Seeseng and good work Engineer Lee. Thank you very much. I hope we can see only constructive arguments and no more cyber war in this new v2 thread. Kudos to Lucas and ChanK for updating us the most latest information and untold stories in the swiftlet keeping industry.
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icon_question.gif COST LAAAAA!!!!!!! icon_question.gif


2 Storey Bungalaw Type Swiftlet Farm:
(Ground Floor Empty)
Built up 1350 Sq, Ft Included Roving Area.


What is The Construction Cost

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post Jun 5 2009, 01:50 PM

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Added on June 5, 2009, 1:53 pm
QUOTE(Stephen Martin @ Jun 5 2009, 10:32 AM)
icon_question.gif COST LAAAAA!!!!!!! icon_question.gif
2 Storey Bungalaw Type Swiftlet Farm:
(Ground Floor Empty)
Built up 1350 Sq, Ft Included Roving Area.
What is The Construction Cost 

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75k all include but not banglow la...ONLY LOW-COST DOUBLE STOREY FARM!

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post Jun 5 2009, 07:20 PM

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Bad news now after we have good news or maybe not-so-good news earlier? vmad.gif vmad.gif What on earth is going on? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

http://search.sinchew-i.com/node/345021


All town BHs are given 3 years grace period to shift for those who need translation.

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post Jun 5 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(swift4ever @ Jun 5 2009, 07:20 PM)
Bad news now after we have good news or maybe not-so-good news earlier?  vmad.gif  vmad.gif What on earth is going on? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

http://search.sinchew-i.com/node/345021
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Sudah pasti lah...don't be surprise lah...

In malaysia, we have no system.

Our system is not liked private sector, so they just do what they want....each kepala idea different...

Look at your neighbourhood!!....

A new paved road is been excavate to fix the pipe, then they paved the road again!!....

A new lamp post line is been install, next month, another dept come to extend the width of road....And they are now starting to dismantle and realign the lamp post again!!...


If the idiot had do some homework liked getting advice from the dept in charge of swiftlet industry, that we already have guidelines to reduce and eliminate all the complaints which are 99% due to noise, he will not be come out n talk nonsense again!!...




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QUOTE(benchai @ Jun 4 2009, 09:14 AM)
Kuching Farmer you better go to KT and fill up the hollow BH. No need to  make excuses failure means failure, nothing more nothing less. Why so stupid to spent good money when you know thet the area is not suitable.,but when I went with Harry Kok to Trok area the sky is full of birds ! Technic Lah ! Kuching Farmer shut up and keep secret to yourself.

My sifu say Quote" 5% luck 95% skill" think about it.
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it is ok...everyone knows what are the common ingredients in aroma,

No one aroma is the best, it is more of your own preference,

U liked more bird's nest, put more loh!!...

U liked more fish oil, put more loh!!!......

U liked more sea cocunut, put more loh!!!...

U liked more eggs, put more loh!!!......




It is no surprise whether your farms is not performing as good as u thought nowadays.....all of u are only catching other peoples young chics....

u can wait, then wait loh!!!....

U can't wait, then swim to sarawak loh!!!....as most likedly a lot of virgin area, u are attracting cave swiftlets to stay in your farm!!!.......


When come to a stage, it is not skills nor luck that count......

but good luck will bring you to a place where u can attract birds easily......

Bad luck will bring u to a place where even with thousand of birds, u only attract few that stay!!.....


not only the skill or technic of building farm...

it is the technic of u choosing a suitable place to build yr farm!!....that count the most...

My opinion : 50% - Choosing the right place ( this is most likedly luck too, without luck, u can't find the opportunity to buy the land or shop at the right time!!)

25% - Design ( internal wise we can do anything, but when come to external where we place the inlet hole n etc...we need some luck too!!!...as sometimes we cant do 100% what we want especially when we design farm in shop!).

25% - Luck to find the right person to do yr farm, and turn on the right sound tracks to attract birds. ( failing to do it first time right will destine ur farm will be slowed !!..)


that of course come from my minimal knowledge. bruce.gif

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post Jun 5 2009, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Jun 5 2009, 07:40 PM)
Sudah pasti lah...don't be surprise lah...

In malaysia, we have no system.

Our system is not liked private sector, so they just do what they want....each kepala idea different...

Look at your neighbourhood!!....

A new paved road is been excavate to fix the pipe, then they paved the road again!!....

A new lamp post line is been install, next month, another dept come to extend the width of road....And they are now starting to dismantle and realign the lamp post again!!...
If the idiot had do some homework liked getting advice from the dept in charge of swiftlet industry, that we already have guidelines to reduce and eliminate all the complaints which are 99% due to noise, he will not be come out n talk nonsense again!!...
happy.gif


Added on June 5, 2009, 7:51 pm
it is ok...everyone knows what are the common ingredients in aroma,

No one aroma is the best, it is more of your own preference,

U liked more bird's nest, put more loh!!...

U liked more fish oil, put more loh!!!......

U liked more sea cocunut, put more loh!!!...

U liked more eggs, put more loh!!!......
It is no surprise whether your farms is not performing as good as u thought nowadays.....all of u are only catching other peoples young chics....

u can wait, then wait loh!!!....

U can't wait, then swim to sarawak loh!!!....as most likedly a lot of virgin area, u are attracting cave swiftlets to stay in your farm!!!.......
When come to a stage, it is not skills nor luck that count......

but good luck will bring you to a place where u can attract birds easily......

Bad luck will bring u to a place where even with thousand of birds, u only attract few that stay!!.....
not only the skill or technic of building farm...

it is the technic of u choosing a suitable place to build yr farm!!....that count the most...

My opinion : 50% - Choosing the right place ( this is most likedly luck too, without luck, u can't find the opportunity to buy the land or shop at the    right time!!)

                  25% - Design ( internal wise we can do anything, but when come to external where we place the inlet hole n etc...we need some luck too!!!...as sometimes we cant do 100% what we want especially when we design farm in shop!).

                  25% - Luck to find the right person to do yr farm, and turn on the right sound tracks to attract birds. ( failing to do it first time right will destine ur farm will be slowed !!..)
that of course come from my minimal knowledge.  bruce.gif
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i totally agree with u, luck is important....start from first ,the luck very important,so the place is important.....right place

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QUOTE(sosos @ Jun 5 2009, 09:59 PM)
i totally agree with u, luck is important....start from first ,the luck very important,so the place is important.....right place
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if u w8ing for LUCK u will asking for [ SOS ] like ur nick name!!! icon_question.gif
ask a fellow who win a jackpot TOTO on WED to make a farm. see wheather he can sucess or not?

does he /or had not enuf LUCK u are kidding...?
no kung fu let ask he/she to build a farm ....can ?
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Gary Player a famous golfer who chip in from the banker and a by- stander say what a lucky shot! He turn around and say QUOTE " Its funny it seem that the harder I work on my game the LUCKER i get"

So its hard work do your research and most important you have to be inteligent to guage what is right and what is wrong and make good judgement.

Quote "Don't argue with fools as they win everytime on
experiances"

Many smart Alex are Kia Su and see ai bi . Be humble and many are willing to help.

One cannot claim success until you can harvest 3 to 4 kg per month and you don't become expert because you attended a seminar on swiftlets farming.

100 bird came for tempoary shelter because their BH was distroy does not mean that they will stay and make nest. They will be gone once their orginal BH is back in operation. You will see if my prediction is correct!. Mark my word !
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hmm...

that proved my point indeed.

whether 95 to 5 or 5 to 95, makes no different.

harvesting 3 to 4kg or 30 to 40kg or 300kg to 400kg does not prove anything.

and harvesting 30g to 40g a month does not mean that u know nothing about swiftlet farming..in fact, those who has failed farm learned more than those who own successful farm as they constantly seek solutions to revive their farm (except those d*** head who think extra to move the bird though).


Asking a monk who will protect u when the world end, the monk will said `The God'.

Asking a consultant what is the most important factor in determining a farm success, the consultant will said ` Technique!!'.

Asking a gambler what is the most important factor to win a bet, the gambler will said `Luck!!!'.

Asking a guy who constructed/renovated/revived numerous farms what is the most important factor to a successful farm, the guy will tell u, both luck and techniques , but luck do play an important rules. As even if u are 100% correct techniques, there are sometimes it will not quarantee u success!!...

So, what is the difference? well...if techniques is your favor, go for it!!...

if luck is your fovor, go for it!!!...


The only difference is if luck play an important rule in this industry, no one will pay u money to do it ....



My minimal knowledge. ^ ^

Good luck, thats what we always said before we turn on the sound.

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http://www.johordt.gov.my/pmbj/v2/index.ph...d=406&Itemid=29

accidenly found from web


Ahmad Zahri berkata lesen hanya akan diberi kepada pengusaha yang telah membuktikan keupayaan mereka serta mampu mencadangkan kawasan yang mempunyai populasi burung walit yang tinggi

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hmm...

that basically sum it up..

Shut the f*** up!!.....U all will be chase out and closed shop, so don't be a d*** head, u are nothing but a `Ko Kai Lou Shu !!' ...

well, one person pain is another person joy.

Those involves in this industry long enough already know and experience all this for all these years don't we?.


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the national guidelines is just a guideline, it does not guarantee all states will follow. They can still reason why they can't implement it in their own state.

We know kedah is safe.

and we do know johor state will not give a damn of the national guidelines as the MB all the while is anti farmer in town.

Heard from my friend that in Rembau, Majlis allowed apply license for all as long as u attend the GAHP and is a member of local BN association.
This is heart warming..

haha....human being, still a human being don't we. Do whatever to cover it still a human being..hmm... seeing too many in this industry.

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Oh so good, action all around and I just like to read other postings for awhile but then I just love CHANK positing below

"No one aroma is the best, it is more of your own preference,
U liked more bird's nest, put more loh!!...
U liked more fish oil, put more loh!!!......
U liked more sea cocunut, put more loh!!!...
U liked more eggs, put more loh!!!......" Hahahaha

Just wish to add that when doing your own attraction portion or buying, please be careful cos' you may destroy what you have even if is only 50 nests.......... try it out first at a certain worst corner and if it's good, go full swing.

Sometime, when you BH fail, it not always the lack of Aroma but of something's else. Sometime, even the best Aroma cannot help you cos the problem is somewhere else. (May bring up this subject in the future).

Don't you worry if you are with me cos I am not selling anything except birdnests and birdshits (not Bullshit) and may buy if what you are selling is proven correct cos I would also want increment or hundred of nests from zero within a couple of months...that's I would like to see. Taking of birdnest, the price has increase to Rm4200 ( Good chang) and have a nice day. Thank you

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