A senior I know of only wishes to invest in the eco-park as the pioneer. Preferrably 2 or 3 years before the 2nd follow suit. Hmm.. What does that mean?

Can someone show the threads to the nest processing? Wish to know more.

Yeah, you are right! Long time no see and it's good to hear from you again. Black cloud from you is really not as good as claimed by the blogger condemned in this forum. A clearer edition is also of no use I guess.

[quote=tongserseng,Mar 9 2009, 01:14 PM]
[quote=siewann,Mar 8 2009, 10:32 PM]
4)Solar system- since my bh is in farmland without any power and water, i am using solar system drsign from local company. this system is coming with audio and all the timer like auto door(close at 8pm, open at 6:30am), light, humifier, cctv. So far the system is working pretty good, because my audio is never down(touch wood). This system can be stand 7 days without sunlight.
This kind of technique are rare in swiftlet farming..........
Solar system....... Where to get the water supply for humidifier ???? Can share ????????
How much is the total cost for the system ?????? Can introduce the supplier ??????????
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[/quote]


Can I call that high tech equipped birdhouse? Can someone tell I if can use roll away carpet to clear up my bh droppings in no time?

---

Added on March 16, 2009, 9:51 pm[quote=aeiou228,Mar 9 2009, 10:56 AM]
As west wing said, you have nothing inside yet so don't bother to close the gate. Since you opted open roof entrance, chances of owl diving in is lessen ( please correct me if I'm wrong).

[attachmentid=836702]

[/quote]

Owls do jump into airwell and nest there if they find fit. This happened not long ago in my area.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Mar 16 2009, 09:51 PM

Chicken farm humidifier does not wet the floor if you've extended the height of it with 8" PVC pipe. Mist maker does good mist only if you've well insulated BH as I figured out. Besides, it costs more to use mist maker for extended use. I'm juggling two in my poorly designed BH. Chicken farm humidifier is the best in terms of maintenance.

Floor's problem has been overlooked by many farmers including me. You can't help it when so many birds in it. It is as crucial as the ceiling, concrete or otherwise above planks in a well designed BH. Wouldn't it be clean and nice just flushing out the remaining bird droppings with water after scooping up the bulk and of couse, make no clogging in the drain?


Also thanks for all those who have help to preserve the BHs in towns and I wish them good health, good life and good fortune.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Apr 6 2009, 09:17 PM

Some administration just never grows up at all!!! How can we have a better future !!!

Finally, I read some good news,

http://www.sinchew.com.my/node/113301?tid=1

NEW COMERS ARE NOT ALLOWED INTO TOWN is not an easy rule to be enforced I believe.

After drafting up with relevant authority, the
guidelines for the operations of the swiftlet houses in Malaysia has been finalised and existing swiftlet houses in town do not necessarily stop operation and move after year 2012 but new swiftlet houses are not allowed into town. Application of permit of swiftlet houses operation must be through Associations.... Hope this help.

Eng. Lee, the way you asked me makes me feel this news is not good enough?! Well, I do apologize for not giving you a good answer in your PM regarding the swiftlet BH license issue in Johor because I'm just ordinary farmer like you only a few years senior than you and honestly, I don't even know since when and how the year 2012 was fixed for us to move out of town. For Q2, if it's ghost town where you still can retrieve with ease you money lost there a few days ago. go ahead be the pioneer, save the town! Q3, Existing BH ranchers may have the privilege but can they be successful is another issue. More failed farms we heard so far. Q4, Door should never be close to newbies who are willing to comply no matter how hard our pioneers have worked to save this industry. Just like birds, free to fly in the open sky and stay anywhere they like and loud music doesn't necessarily bring them to stay.Q5, I encourage all to join the Association if the Association can help us to "cari makan" - that is to resolve all problems pertaining to the industry.

I read your blog about the Swiftlet Hotel. The
Swiftlet Hotel in Segamat is the highest in the world I believe. I heard it has been sold?

Any one here uses EM short for effective micro-organisms in their BHs? No one discusses it in this forum so far or are we still prefer to use the traditional way to keep our swiftlets in town? I heard of it from JOHOR BIRD'S NEST INDUSTRY MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION last year and according to them, it can do wonders in your BHs and bring good to the industry. If anyone uses it and finds it good and worth sharing HERE, pls do so as we don't to see this forum lagging behind latest techology.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: May 19 2009, 10:14 PM

What ChanK said earlier is right! ...That is never blame an Association for not doing its job if you've not joined in. Having said that, as an Association, never say no to anyone who wishes to join even you have to put hold on it for some reasons. Just take down his particulars sincerely and tell him that Association committee will consider and get back to him in due course. Meanwhile, operation guidelines should be made easily accessible to anyone just for the benefits of all existing law abiding members. We should take stringent stand on the membership application just in case any black sheeps are to be expelled and probably with the help of local authority!

I share the same view with West Wing that joining local Association is to keep us abreast with issues like complaints from public, summons from authority, courses and seminars from government and private agencies and etc.

As for National level, we need checked and balanced approach to ensure all national policy is not tilted towards a certain group. DL group has put in a commendable effort to this end.

It is just my 2sen view though.

'Sarawak swiftlet farming breaking news' SMS received but missed out on the telecast as I was out on a dinner. Some members are informed at the last minute but they hardly know the true story....

This post has been edited by swift4ever: May 24 2009, 10:22 PM

Bad news now after we have good news or maybe not-so-good news earlier? What on earth is going on?

http://search.sinchew-i.com/node/345021


All town BHs are given 3 years grace period to shift for those who need translation.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jun 5 2009, 10:51 PM

Hi guys, allow me to share a little of my experience in swiftlet farming with the newbies here. Throughout the years of swiftlet farming, I have run BHs in both business district and in isolated town center. As I was the earlier bird to venture out in these area so I am well blessed with thousands of nests built by these lovely creatures. Of these 2 areas, my experience on the conversion of abandoned shops into BHs is worth mentioned because newbies can help revive the town if not the BHs. In our case newbies bought up most of the top floors in the 3-storey strata titled shophouses and converted slowly according to their time slots. The growth of bird populations from each floor is certainly much slower compared to the early birds there but some still manage to get above 20 nests in a year. I thlnk it has more to do with the conversion takes place one after another in gradual manner. In fact, some of the newer BHs grow faster than the older BHs now and if this has nothing to do with design of BH then I don't know what it is. Surely various sounds play a major role to pull in thousands of swiftlets to this town, but I can tell you that some owners use the same external and even internal sound in their BHs unknowingly. So in short, newbies got themselves exposed to these creatures at minimal risk and cost and should be satisfying.

For BH security, worry about that after I have 1kg of nests in it as a benchmark in my case. Thereafter, you can have remote controlled security system via handphone installed or better still join in the theft watch squad with other owners as unity is strength in defending our BHs from being either stolen or demolished. They know your strength when you traded punch with them when they came

Again this is just my minimal observation and experience. The decision is yours, like Eng. Lee said.

Just to elaborate with a case I knew, but definitely not trying to encourage others to emulate this newbie, he bought the top floor from developer at $60K. Took up 80% loan from bank with $12K down payment. Forked out another $30K for renovation. 2 years later, with no alarm installed and no break-in record, he sold the BH at $180K, Either the alarm cost $3K is too expensive for him then or he knew he has no need $300.000 for this venture. He isn't a stupid newbie, is he? He is just one among others to make a killing. Price of top floor has since gone up.....


Mix guano with EM1 can probably do wonders in your worm composite as well...

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jun 11 2009, 11:35 PM

On behalf of all farmers from my area, I extend our greatest gratitue to representatives of Associations, traders, manufacturers and exporter to take part in the workshop organized by Department of Haiwan.

Kudos to new member, birdfarm. your in-depth analysis on the Bird Nest industry is timely and has shed us some light on the direction where it is headed.

...in terms of Eco-Tourism, we strive to show it to the world that

our precious heritages not just from Penang and Melaka can co-exist

with these birds, they can also complement one another and appeal to

ecotourists of the world.


Incidentaly, salute also goes to those who helped in resolving the

Penang BHs deadlock with the new administration without any BHs of

their own existed there. Their perseverance in the face of

adversity and integrity in all matters and dealings are certainly

worthy of our praises....

Sigh....Our last line of defence, broken, mind you, not by influenza virus H1N1 but by the ever notorious nest savvy spideman! Judging by the lost of nest of about 3kg cleared away hastily from 2 unsecured BHs, by that I mean without any security alarm system being installed there, they were just lucky not being caugh in the act. If they are the big timer, would they not consider to break into the bigger, more secured BHs with thousands of nests in them just nearby, I wonder?? They have calculated the risk. haven't they? Look like we should not be self-satisfied even we have caught and punished them in town in the past. We will regroup ourselves to defend our BHs once again, no time for good sleep just yet.

My experience from it is you are probably too late to find out your BH has been hacked when you see many birds are flying around your BH in the early evening.

A mobile phone linked security alarm is a must to safeguard your BH just in time. Almost 48 hours gone unnoticed in thls most recent case...

Hmm..look like we Johorean are being put at crossroad. While we are having sleepless nights trying to catch a thief in front, some developer of swiftlet eco park is trying to stab us from the back. What would you do if that occurred to you? Which one will you tackle first?

In my humble opinion. For thieves, when we see them running off with our nests, we fight till the last breath. As for developers, we will fight with them when they show up themselves undisgulsed. On other note, If our senior has shown strong interest in eco park recently, surely he can tell the good developer from the bad and we can take cue from there, can't we?

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jun 27 2009, 09:33 PM

So the ball is in Johor court now and we should play it well and make no mistake about it!

We have full confidence in our state association to work out a thorough working guideline in due time albeit it has been delayed for sometime which is not intended for on the association part most time.

On Eco Park, we can assure you the feasibility studies will be conducted further and revealed to show that it is another version of get-rich-quick scheme for benefit of just a handful of people, leaving others roped in to the dream of $$$ never comes true.

To developer who tried to use dirty tactics to lure us into this high risk game plan, I would counter propose to him to have all the cake to himself and eat it too! If foreigners targeted as the buyers only, and given time, return is not as good as you claimed it should be, Aha! you can tell them to wait til birds are aplenty in town!

To the heads and working committee of all associations in the state, maybe good to keep a distance from developer. Your association with them will mislead your members into thinking all is sound and well prior to the counter proposal.

Make a home run for us, Dr. Tan before you go on retiring fully, Just to lighten you little. Hehe.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jul 1 2009, 12:17 AM

Another secret of swiftlet farming...EM. Please try it out and tell us more about the outcome!

What's EM?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_microorganism

For those who are interested in applying EM to your BHs. you can get

them from:-

J-BIOTECH
- Ready-to-use EM for $7/Litre

Work: 07-2411814
Fax: 07-2411812
#G- 17, Park Avenue Commercial Center
Jalan Mawar 4. Taman Tampoi Indah II
Johor Bahru,Johor


BIO-BOOSTER
- lngredients of EM
No.18 & 20,Jalan Sri Perkasa 1/5
Tmn Tampoi Utama, Johor Bahru,Johor

Tel: 07-2414020
Fax: 07-2412191

Add
1L bio-booster(Lactic acid bacteria,Yeast, Phototrophic bacteria)
Add
1L Molasses

Add
18L Dechlorinated water then
fermentation 5-7days and in between release gas every day.







.

This post has been edited by swift4ever: Jul 13 2009, 11:19 PM