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post Feb 17 2009, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(ChanK @ Feb 17 2009, 05:47 PM)
What Chiongguo said is right.

Guys we can stop cursing anyone.

We need to start work the guidelines now.

The meeting went well, and Mr D.L. had full control of the situation in the meeting. AND WE HAVE RAISED OUR CONCERN TO PBT OFFICERS.
PLEASE PROCEED TO GIVES YOUR IDEAS AND PARTICIPATE IN CHIONGGUO GOOGLE GROUP.

SUPPORT HIM JUST LIKED U HAVE SUPPORTED ME.

MANY HERE OWE ME SOME TIME....THE TIME I SPEND IN YOUR FARMS CHECKING FOR YOU AND TRY MY BEST TO RECTIFY THE PROBLEMS...

NOW IS PAY BACK TIME, REGISTER N GIVES YOUR CONSTRUCTIVE COMMENTS.

TRAIN YOURSELF TO BECOMES A FIGHTER FOR OUR SWIFTLET FARMING COMMUNITY.

I AM VERY VERY THANKFUL TO MODERATOR FOR NOT THROWING ME OUT OF THIS FORUM AS I STILL USE BIG CAP...I PROMISED, THIS WILL BE THE LAST...ELSE....KICK ME OUT...PLEASE!!!!!.....

CHIONGGUO, PLEASE FORGIVES THEM....THEY ARE ALL STILL YOUNG, NEED MR D.L., LUCAS1, WEST WING, AND YOU TO GUIDE THEM.....
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Added on February 17, 2009, 5:51 pmAS FOR SARAWAK,

WE HAVE OTHER PLAN....THAT PLAN IS ONGOING. DON'T WORRY.

LEARN FROM IT....OUR FUTURE FIGHTERS...


Added on February 17, 2009, 5:54 pmAHH...THIS IS MY 68 POSTS... hehe...good no....I will end it here. Thks guys.......

I wish to apologize for all my rough comments posts. This is surely not a good example to show to you all.

If i had hurt any of you with my hands....I apologize.
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Latest News, hehe....Even MB of Kedah is fully support this industry. ( AND THIS IS NOT LUCK OHH....MANY HOURS OF DISCUSSION BET. KEDAH OFFICERS AND OUR BELOVED MR D.L. BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED)..... So, this time, MR D.L. also no need to talk liao...Even the Officer said, I think what our MB said is more than enough and i don't think any of you got any other things to add... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

As for our beloved H....really `Luck Sei'...Don't dare to talk much....at the end he said he is only a blogger and not an expert n he said
he also don't know how to move the birds !!!....

ehh???......how come different from his planned presentation paper ??..we read his paper which we do have a copy.....ohh...different ohh....the paper mentioned him as EXPERT THAT CAN SHIFT BIRD'S .....now totally 360 degree change liao !!!....

No more expert??


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We won the war and it is the beginning as Kedah is the first stop before PBT proceed to other states and kedah representative is tasked to make another more simplify proposal for our national guidelines as the MB of kedah also found the draft guidelines too many red tapes.....and needs to be simplify to help this industry PROSPER.....

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I AM SO HAPPY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......
BUT OUR KEDAH REPRESENTATIVE CAN REST FOR TWO DAYS BEFORE BURNING MIDNIGHT OIL AGAIN TO MAKE THE PROPOSAL TO THE KEDAH GOVT AND I AM VERY SURE OTHER STATES WILL FOLLOW TOO.....

AGAIN, WE MIGHT AGAIN SCAN IT HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO READ N STUDY N MAKE OUR PROPOSAL TOGETHER AND SUBMIT IT TO KEDAH GOVT.

GUYS, THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THEM....
LOWYAT SWIFTLET FORUMERS ......BOLEH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AND WE HAVE 10 DAYS TO COMPLETE THE TASKS.
MR David Lim.  ` 我爱你 !!!!!!!!'..........
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Dear CK and DL,

We have a bad day in Miri. More than 20 officers from Forestry Dept., Council, Land Survey and Police came to BH in Luak Bay to inspect one BH. About 30 BH owners were there to Shaw support. BH owners invited to enforcers to sit down for a discussions and brief us on the procedure and requirements of their Inspections. We objected to their removal of nest with eggs and chicks killed , a standoff ensure for about an hour. Miri state Assembly Representative for Pujut was called to ease the situation and he promptly arrived within 20 mins. Thank you YB Andy Chia !

After another hour it was agreed that none of the nest with eggs and chicks will be removed or kill. A small number of officers and owner went into the targeted BH. Few nests were remove and placed in plastic bags. All these went on in a civil manner.
The officers were polite explaining they are merely doing their jobs. They were also reminded by the BH owners that we are all fellow Sarawakians and are not criminals and only committed an offence under the wild life act. As most of the officers some Bumis mostly are Iban, Orang Ulu all class as OTHERS. They were reminded that what we are peacefully protesting to protect our investments is exactly what they were fighting for years for their NCR land.

A total of 5 BH were inspected till 5 PM. Tomorrow they will resume their inspection in Lutong Baru and City Center. I was also informed that similar operations were carried out in Kuching and Bintulu where nest with eggs were removed.
I will keep everyone posted and thanks for your support.

Ben


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post Feb 17 2009, 09:33 PM

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CK and all concerned BH owners,

There is no need to apologise to anyone if what we do is SICERELY trying to right what we think is wrong and to protect the lifelihood of our fellow BH owners.

We don't need heros with big ego and smart alex at this challanging time. I will not hasitate to put these people in the right places.

sincerely

BEN
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post Feb 18 2009, 09:14 AM

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Sarawak cracks down on illegal swiftlet breeders
By JACK WONG

KUCHING: Sarawak Forestry Corporation has launched a crackdown on over 1,500 unlicensed swiftlet breeders.

The operations, which started in major towns yesterday, came after the deadline to the breeders to dismantle their illegal operations expired on Dec 31.


Crackdown: An enforcement officer dismantling the lock to one of the shophouses during the operation against illegal swiftlet rearing in Kuching yesterday.

Forestry head of corporate communications Zulkifli Baba Noor said building owners would be asked to produce valid licences for swiftlet farming when enforcement officers check their premises.

“If they fail to produce the licences, the officers will have to remove the sound systems, nests and eggs,” he told The Star.

He said 732 applications for swiftlet farming had been received and the relevant agencies, including Natural Resources and Environment Board, were studying the applications.

There are now only two licensed farms statewide.

An enforcement team, accompanied by police and City South Council health and enforcement officers, began its operations at a row of four-storey shophouses at Three Hills Park, Jalan Foochow, here.

Most of the upper floors of the shophouses have been used for swiftlet farming.

Sarawak Birdnest Imports and Exports Association president Tsai Mui Leong, one of the affected breeders, appealed for a five-year grace period to relocate their operations.

He said many breeders applied three months ago for licences to relocate but had yet to obtain the approvals.

“Give us the licences and we will comply with the various conditions.

“The authorities can come and inspect our operations monthly. This would be a win-win situation,” he told reporters.

Dear All

Please help to support every HB owners who are victim of circumstances. Same may happen to you one day as the authorities decided to change the rules. Please do not become violent or or use opportion parties to fight our cause . Don't give the authority the opportunity to use force and the consequences can be too heavy to bare for you and your family , if they use a hammer to kill an ant and belief me they will as in other part of Malaysia.

Peacefull protest is ok. Lets hope for the best with the help of DL,CK,Lucas,J.Loh. Also thanks to our BN 's YB Andy Chia who have the courage to come forward and help defused what could become a bad suituation.

Thanks All

Ben




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post Feb 18 2009, 05:58 PM

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Miri 9 more empty BH with only nesting planks were voluntarily opened up to a much smaller enforcement team. Few speakers and nest were removed.

Tomorrow they are moving to the hot spot in Beautiful Jade Center. As usual many BH owners were at hand to offer moral support.

We understand that In kuching some BH owners were slap with a compound fine of RM5000.00 ouch!

There were no untowards incident as I have stated we are just simlpe peaceful citizen receving the wrong end of the stick. I bet that H and mr. failed BH in KT is laughing their head off. HAHAHAHA!!!! Thank you !

Ben
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post Feb 18 2009, 08:55 PM

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please beware of this guy and don't be a sucker in your despreat suituation. He is only name dropping names although I heard that his price have gone down substantially.


QUOTE(Lucas 1 @ Oct 24 2008, 06:13 PM)


Latest insider info received or already an open secret in Sarawak reveals that a syndicate is acting as proxy and agent for a top man,a Datuk, in Sarawak Forestry Corp. This syndicate is presently going round esp in Mukah soliciting and offering to help any farmer to obtain official approval of setting up bird’s nest farm on agricultural land only in Sarawak for a fee of RM 100,000.00 per application. Approval guaranteed.

This syndicate is headed by one known as Wong and several others. They own a company known as Mukah Bird’s Nest ****** S/B which has already been granted the 1st license for RM 30,000.00 paid under the counter to the top man. Now, this syndicate is the agent for the Datuk.

So, all the Malaysians, don’t have to worry much lah. We have a very good govt and everything can be ‘KAU TIM’.
(To all the readers, in case you have any info which you don’t know or dare not to expose it here yourself, and you are dying to share it for the sake of JUSTICE, you can always PM the details to me, let me do it for you. I guarantee you no one should know the source. You can write in any language.)





The Mukah incidences are blatant abuse of power and reeks of corrupted practices institutionalised over the past years. One good place to highlight this form of abuse of power and corruption is in Malaysiakini, the readerships there are always very concerned about the rampant injustices in this country.

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post Feb 18 2009, 10:50 PM

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This H guy during the GAHP in Kuching only managed to speak for 5 mins and his little computer ran out of juice and was told to end his talk and the mic. taken from him. So embarrassing. I would have protested and walk off yet he hang around trying to market his CDs and so on. Worse he got the indignity to came forward to received his token of appreciation (for nothing). My God sooooo! Malu.

I asked my two young friends in Kuching Alvin and Kelvin both met H in Pontianak If they know that H is in Kuching. Goodness me ! both PHUI AH! They chow far far. Unannounced H Call them from the Kuching airport on transit to Pontianak if they can pick him up. They being green and hospitable like all Sarawakian drop everything and rush to the airport took him down to the hotel pick him up again and bought him a Sea Food Dinner. After paying for dinner they were told that they had talked to him for 2 hours and his charges is RM200.00 each for the first hour and RM100.00 for subsequent hour a total of RM600.00. I will give you my friend’s tel. No. if you want to call me a lair. H boosted that he is making RM20.000 per months from his blog. So he is helping people and money to be donated to a Buddhist Temple HAHAH!!! My bubut.

This guy is very insecure and attention seeking. I was guest speaker for a Unity Forum attended by 120 VVIPs ,Tuah Kampongs ,Permanchas and Pengulus on voluntarism I don’t take note of who is around and who come to talk to me. I spoke for 2 hours and interrupted by ovations. I chose to be excused from have tea with the VVIPS and opted to rush to the hospital to visit a cancer stricken volunteer who died at 10 am the next morning. I am glad I missed tea instate of sticking around to be photographs with the VVIPS. H won’t miss it for the world. Would he ??

Only guys with inferiority complex will constantly telling people that his wife is a Doctor or the CM is his god father and so on. So whats the big deal?

This tricks SMS me that he is coming to Miri during CNY to see my new BH. I told him that my BH with special designed entrance and 4 ways surround sound system and pulling sound using 5 amps. And feathers and BN oil extracted by distillation under the guidance of Pak Han is OOB. Pak thanks for trusting me with your secret . Tricks heard about the result from my friend V. M. from Brunei and have 200 ml of these aromas on the way to his Pontianak new BH. Jeff Kow Kow have just received 250 ML .all FOC. I definitely will not pay him RM200.00 per hour to learn my secret.

If all BH in Kedah is shut down you think H have any hole to hide in Malaysia. Mr. Bey with 100 BH wants to shake his hand ?? He is so poison to even state that D.L. and Hj. A. gate crashed. This is the way to run people down for contradicted his unproven theory that could destroy the life of thousand? It’s for this reason that I took time to write this article despite the fact that I am severely dyslexic and to write this article is a big effort.

Mr. successful small hearted farmer with 50 nest in 1.5 years please wake up. I know you have a standalone please support BH owners who are stuck with Millions in investments in shop lots and very little option but to fight on. Dear readers pls. don't be suckered by this guy.

Thanks D.L. and CH , Lucus

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post Feb 19 2009, 08:09 AM

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"Quote Terok”
“What I want to see is Truth prevail”
“One stupid person working is better than 100 clever person doing nothing."

You want the truth ?? You think it is right to run D.L. and Hj. A. down like that. “ Coming from back door ?? This Ismail guy together with Victor from Brunei and J. Tan from Daro insist to go to a Class restaurant. Much to my delight We were taken to a Thai Restaurant really grand and expensive . I proceed to order a beer but Ismail told me that no class lah ! He wanted RED WINE which I also enjoyed . You guess right we were paying the bill “Sucker”

Hope you now see the truth . Wake up brother. I wonder who is the” one stupid person working” not yourself I hope. Read again “MOMENT OF TRUTH” BY Lucas 1

Thank You Hj.Aziz , David Lim we owe you one

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I am not invited to talk about any other matters except on How To Be A Successful Swiftlet Farmer. At least this time I am pretty safe from those back stabbing people who love to let more people hates me.

Laugh until you si si in your pants !! Is a bad joke " blind leading the blind." Why invite sone body who don't have a scccessful HB to shout about to talk on "How to be a successful Swiftlet Farmer." aiyo ! might as well buy a book and read lah. Remember this guy attended the seminar conducted by Pak Han only a year ago. cannot stop scratching my head.

This lucky man only being stab in the back. He is chinese because he drink Red Wine with me and J.Tan and Victor. Must be season drinker to know that the wine we shared is a bit dry. Only 3 of us shared the bill.
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Miri update;

!/2 a dozen BH opened up for insepctions 2 successful BH have some nests removed and taken away by Forestry Officer with acknowledgement. Most BH already have been cleared off amps. speakers and nest without chicks. Thousands of eggs and chicks were distroyed by BH owners for fear on the RM5000.00 compound fine.

Been informed that tomorrow operations will be on going. I understand that legal actions and injunctions have been filed in court to stop the ongoing operations on Mukah and also Miri. Hope for the best.


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I came across this in the Sarawak Talk . Interesting can any sifu give your comment. H beware your nose might drop off.


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Re: Raids conducted on illegal
Posted by afd on February 18, 2009 at 16:40:08:
In Reply to : Raids conducted on illegal swiftlet rearing x ope posted by v on February 18, 2009 at 13:56:38:

To many especially the Chinese swiftlets is a sacred and auspicious animals. If one make nest in one’s home or shop ,they are treasured and sure to bring good fortune. My analogy is the house or buildings already have good Fung sui to attract the swift lets in the first place. To destroy or chase them away because of being a nuisance will sure bring bad luck or even death to the household. For this reason no Chinese will dare to harm any swiftlets. A fung sui master in Sibu have predicted that the demolitions of bird house in Makah last year, Sarawak will surely suffer major disasters and those who are responsible for the killing of the swift lets will surely suffer death themselves or members of their family. Looking back now we see the worse flood through our Sarawak also landslide and thousands of people made homeless. With the second round of destructions of Bird House throughout Sarawak the Same Fung Sui master says that he predicted that worse disaster is yet to come. The sudden and unexplained death of fishes in the rivers is a sure sign that something major is going to happen soon.




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I came across this in the Sarawak Talk . Interesting can any sifu give your comment. H beware your nose might drop off.


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Re: Raids conducted on illegal
Posted by afd on February 18, 2009 at 16:40:08:
In Reply to : Raids conducted on illegal swiftlet rearing x ope posted by v on February 18, 2009 at 13:56:38:

To many especially the Chinese swiftlets is a sacred and auspicious animals. If one make nest in one’s home or shop ,they are treasured and sure to bring good fortune. My analogy is the house or buildings already have good Fung sui to attract the swift lets in the first place. To destroy or chase them away because of being a nuisance will sure bring bad luck or even death to the household. For this reason no Chinese will dare to harm any swiftlets. A fung sui master in Sibu have predicted that the demolitions of bird house in Makah last year, Sarawak will surely suffer major disasters and those who are responsible for the killing of the swift lets will surely suffer death themselves or members of their family. Looking back now we see the worse flood through our Sarawak also landslide and thousands of people made homeless. With the second round of destructions of Bird House throughout Sarawak the Same Fung Sui master says that he predicted that worse disaster is yet to come. The sudden and unexplained death of fishes in the rivers is a sure sign that something major is going to happen soon.
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I think that second round of bad karma have already started in Sarawak . Whole roll of shophouses were totally burned down to the ground in MUKAK this morning. Can this be just a coincident ?? we will see.

H is using so many rolls of toilet paper rubbing his head every day and its getting bigger and bigger. If H nose stare to fall off then comfirm lah ! cannot run away from Bad karma . worse when he get sooo famous and we all want to shake hands with him , we might be shaking his hands without the body attached to it . Laugh until si si come out. HAHAHA

Successful farmer with 50 nest in 1.5 years ( Less say 50 % discount so maybe 25 nests ? kia su BAH ! ! beware Buddha may be angry because you should be the last person to talk about Buddhism. You know I can easily tell you six step to revamp your BH . With hundreds circling on the top , 100 nest in 1 year I will jump into the river in front of your BH. My expection 200 nest . You cannot do big business without BIG ideas.

Fools always win with their experiances

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H was in cloud 9 and boasting and shouting from the top of the tallest building in Malaysia thinking this will give him the endorsements and a licience to con more Newbie like me.Little did he realized that it would back fired and exopsed his evil intent. I like to tell you a story about a little robin shall we call Hairy

Its was such a bad winter and Hairy the robin was perched on the lower branch of a very big tree (tukang gigi ) and dying from starvation. A bull came by the tree for shelter and drops a big patch of dunk right below the branch where Hairy was struggling to hold on to stay alive. Finally he was so weak that a small breeze swings the branch just so slightly and hairy fall right on the top of the cattle pat.

In desperation hairy dig in and feast on the cow dunk. Eating shit hairy quickly regains strength and quickly flew back on the tree but this time flew right to the very top of the tree and shitting down on the tree that gave him shelter a little while ago.


Like all robins he was singing on the top of his voice trying to attract all the girls around him. He was making so much noise that attracted the attention of a small boy who started to throw stones at him, but hairy thinking that he was so high up that the boy will not be able to hit him and continue singing . The boy tried harder and finally one good shot hit hairy’s large head as a result of rubbing them with toilet paper. The seriously injured hairy fall from the top of the tree and landed dead , right on the top of the BULL SHIT.

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Hi Terok,
Your silent does not surprised me and I take it that you have now realized my intention when as a final and only one last chance to try to save the live and living of thousands in Sarawak and also that of the poor innocence Swift lets .I plead for an extension of two years to buy time. Our stay of executions has been upheld and they put in the lateral injection except we are dying a slow and painful death. Please come to our side and support BH owners with BH in shop lots even though it may be disadvantages to owners of standalone BH. I assure you that I have no animonisity against you and want to remain as your friend. A few harsh words will not mean that we cannot share views for the betterment of the bird nest industry.

Can you see the harm done by hairy who now say that swift lets can be hand raise? Yes only 10% survived to proof a point at the expense of thousands of baby swift lets??? I know the cave contractor who brought down thousands of swift lets which are about to fly off stage were hand raise and all perished , with improved technique with the help from a chicken farmer MR. Yong from Kuching only 10% survived. Is this acceptable? Anyone with any comparison and conscience will not allow this practice. Is this call success and can be done?? Nincompoop x 10. may the fleas from a thousand camels infest his ass hole.

The situation right now in Sarawak where thousand from day old chicks and about to fly off age were removed to avoid the RM5, 000 compound fine and If even 1% can be save it is worth trying. If some ego centric monster give the impression that we can just take the chicks and relocate them to a standalones, stick some worms or chicken feed into the baby swift lets they will happily fly off then come back and build a new colony. This will destroy the whole industry. May the fleas from a thousand camels infest his ass hole.

Sad note my BH was raided today at 4.30 pm and statements taken. Supporters came by and I allowed only one to come in and see the Pak Han’s design and the number of marks after nest being removed from a six month old BH surprised the enforcement officers. Even with the surround sound removed 1 week ago one new nest of 1.2 inch high was found and the officer insisted to remove it for evident but another sympathetic officer stopped him saying this man tolong so many people and just put no evident found. So you see the good karma happens to good people also. Watch out hairy.

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QUOTE(69ing @ Feb 20 2009, 10:43 PM)
Uncle Ben Chai,

We really appreciate what you did for the flood victims and swiftlet farmers in Sarawak. Keep up the good work !!

Believing in karma, I truly believe good and wonderful things would be coming to you soon in the near future.

Uncle Ben, I read from "H" blog that both of you were really close friends at one time (before the T'gganu seminar & up to the Pontianak Seminar, if I am not mistaken). Could you let me know what really happen (or what H did that made you realize otherwise). If anything, this would help newbies from falling into any unwanted bad experience with "H".

God Bless You Uncle Ben. Salute to you !!!!
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Hi 69ing,
I started with a failed BH for 2 years and loss interest. With renewed interest H and Myself attended a seminar in KT by Pak Han. We were all newbie then, and I am still a newbie until I can walk out of my BH with 3 Kgs. Per month then I will be able to claim that I am a” expert”

I sent H photo of myself and B.L. using stress sound to test for suitable area to build BH and my home made BENZOOKA which cost only RM45.00 and doing a super job. I did not realize then H sends his Burmese friend who works in Miri to try twice to secure a copy of the CD from me without success.

In KT H tested for the first time the stress sound which he renamed DURESS and cleverly marketed them and took the bread from many consultants mouth both good and bad. I was given 2 cd by J.Lee who I met in KT and H was also given two copies one called S-out and the other called chasing and within weeks they were copied and renamed Talk To Me and Baby I Love You . Also on this trip Victor ask H to test I cd he bought in Pontianak and the result is awesome in Pontianak. This cd was also copied and sold as “Awesome” very clever.

No we have never been goooood friend and started to feel uneasy on his claim to helping newbie and any money made to be donated to Buddhists Temple and I realized how naive I was when I found out that he is a Muslim and his other name is Ismail. Donating money to a temple ?? MY BUBUT . I shared his sins as I bought him Red Wine in a served no pork Thai Restaurant. I had beer and he drank most of the wine. I am going to hell with him I Guess.

When I found that he toke two young newbie from Kuching for a ride who end up buying more then 4 thousand ringgit of product from him. I realized that this guys intention is not so noble after all. When H was provided free taxi, free seafood and then charged each of them 200 for the first hour and 100 for subsequent hour is the last straw and I need to expose this bogus sifu as I don’t want more newbie to be con by him of their hard earned money.

I have BC from Pak. Han’s collections which was originally from Java a year ago and Pak Han’s first version of Lacua (Its now under lock and key to prevent thieve ) . I don’t where he get his copy of BC . I was told on pretext to test the cd for client end up copy them and marketed for RM500.00 plus RM800.00 plus travelling to tune the amp. To guarantee it works. Such a clever disclaimer if the 500 package does not work or 1300 and kiss my ass sucker if it does not work bad luck need to buy new superior sound amp from him another 5000 ? See how con work ? WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP !!!

If you call me a lair I will provide tel nos. emails acc. Numbers and orginal CDs from J.Lee and Victor.

My motive is to prevent Newbie from being taken for a ride .To prevent H from destroying investments in the swiftlets industry that can ruin the life of thousands of Swiftlets Farmer If he sells the ideas that swift lets can be moved into a eco park and can hand raise swiftlets chicks. H talk to my brother between my legs.

As from today I no longer have BH in shop lot ( I am really TULAN)but will continue to support BH owners whose BH are in Shop lots. Will be in Serikai on 23 feb where we expect strong protest.

“Quote a sucker is born every minute of the day unquote”


Added on February 21, 2009, 1:25 amBelieving in karma, I truly believe good and wonderful things would be coming to you soon in the near future.

Hi 69ing,

I am a very fotunate person .Good karmer is happening to me all the time . I have Great family wonderful sons to take over my business and leaving me with all the time in the world to do what I want. Reasonable good health a big smile all day long.

It is a privilege to be in the position to give. I will not trade this position for any thing less. Would you prefer to be on the receiveing end ?

Helen Keller a blind writer :
Quote. We all have one thing in commen 24 hours a day and its up to us we chose how to spent our time . unquote.



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"Some early analytical studies used edible nest extractas a substrate to investigate viral sialidase activity and the haemagglutination inhabiting actions against infulenza virus (Howe et al., 1960;1961). A more recent discovery is the first avian epidermal growth factor (EGF)-like activity in partially purified swiftlet's nest extrace (Ng et al 1986; Kong et al; 1987). It has been suggested that this water - soluble glycoprotent with a complex protent composition might influence more than ony psysiological parameter to effect its purported medicinal properties. "


Above is extracted from SWIFT LETS of BORNEO by Datuk Lord Carnbrook and DR. Lim Chan Koon page 15 and 16. These Scientists I repeattttt !!! SCIENTISTS after many years research have found that swift lets nest have a natural inhibiters against Virus see enclosed . Dr Reazuan and his team have done more than 10,000 swabs throughout Malaysia since the onset of the bird flu in chickens around South East Asia few years ago and have not found a single positive result to date. He reconfirmed his findings during GAHP in Kuching recently.

Please do not demonize swiftlets to raise unwelcome attention at these difficult times. Please raise your concerned for the millions of migratory Cattle Egrets ,starlings, swallows, sparrows, snips and ducks that came in from as far as Mongolia , Japan , South China, Vietnam ,Thailand to winter here. These birds by the millions are roosting on electric wires , telephone lines , ornamental trees planted by Town Councils ,On roof tops, ledges and five foot way throughout Malaysia dumping tons of droppings in town and cities centers. Tenom in Sabah alone estimated 1 ml swallows roosted in town every night. These birds came from and through Bird Flu countries. Wild birds are the culprits but there is no money to harp on them. So who cares ! Please complain to your councils.

Ah! Swiftlest wah! 10 kg per months and that one wah ! 20 kg. per month suddenly they smell money . So control them ,this license and that license , tax . Well this is still ok. Then Approval kopi o, inspections kpoi o renewal of license kpoi o . belief me there will be no end. Beware the shutting of BH now is only the beginning of creating venue for extortions.

Worse Hairy even indentify (With Photos) which BH produce 100 Kg per month to alert would be robbers. I don’t know if he is receiving any commission or not ?? Can you see how dangerous it is to Shaw Hairy your investments. It’s ok if they just rob you but robbers are desperate these days they carry guns and you may lose your life.


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post Feb 26 2009, 09:50 PM

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Thank you Uncle Ben Chai, thank you very much for letting me and other newbies of knowing "H" "TRUE COLOUR" & "True Style" of doing business.

hi 69ing,

Back from Medical mission ,while Mission went on well as usual Physically I was there but lack the usual high spirit and jovial self. I apologies to all my faithful volunteers for my the lack of drive and leadership on this mission.

I only lost a new BH with only 17 nests and do not in any affect my financial position. Yet I was depressed and have this strange feeling of emptiness. it’s like the favorite toy is taken away from a small boy. Dear readers can you feel the pain of hundreds of successful BH owners, Many have invested their retirement funds others are solely dependent on BN for their living and their children’s educations. All the hope, dreams and anticipations have suddenly gone down the drain? The prospect of losing their cars and home is very real. Thanks to all for Shaw of support for Sarawak BH owners. Miri inspections are ongoing. The enforcements officers term their actions as RAID. Very degrading as BH owners voluntarily opened their BH for inspections.
Forestry have inspected 4 BH including standalone in Serikei. In a blind panic to avoid the threatened compound fine,tens of thousands of chicks and eggs were destroyed by owners and seeds loss. If the harassed swiftlets decided to migrate to our neighboring countries, will killed a once lucrative alternative farming.

We cry for our brothers in this difficult time but let’s look forward. We appeal to the authority and are positive that the authorities will expedite our applications for proper licensing. The drawback is that many present owners do not own suitable land neither the finance to build a standalone BH and will take years to recover if ever.

I despised those that promote the idea of eco park at the expense of others miseries. Swiftlets cannot be moved or handfed like chickens. Everyone knows that the percentage of successful BH within a eco park is very small. Tell the developers that you will only make full payments when the BH has 300 nests. If they are confident that eco parks can be successful this clause should not be a problemand I will be the first one to pay them a deposit. With 300 nest they will keep for themselves. See what new story they can cook up to convince you jump into their trap.

I will not comment on subject I don’t know like the ongoing work of DL and team. DL We appreciate your willingness to come forward to help West Malaysian BH owners to get the best deal possible. We all know that you are SINCERE and volunteer your time for others. You and your team can only do so much and we wish you well. Thank You Sir!

DL beware that Hairy is trying to discredit you and blame you for his failed BH which he foolishly acknowledge. I have an email from him to this effect. If he is such an expert he could have turn it around with his powerful BC and wonderful aromas. He cannot even revame his own BH yet charge money to tell othes how to revame their BH . HA! HA HA! HELLO READERS! WAKE UP!

I was once a young green wage earner with very little money I know how painful it is to be taken for a sucker. Please wake Up don’t be one. The problem is that many newbie have no excess to this site and is not aware of his modes operandi and will keep quiet because of pride. Readers please alert your friends.

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If they are not a protected species then does the law in Sarawak prohibits the keeping of non protected species of swiftlets.

Hi Engineer Lee,

Sarawak Wildlife Ordinance states that all Swift lets and Swallows are protected species.

Datuk Lord Cranbrook refers them to as “House Swift lets “and he named them as Fuchipagus Domesticus and as the name suggest they are domesticated like Cattle and chickens. I am in the opinion that he is trying to get through to the Forestry people that that these are not wild animals and cannot survive in the wild like their cave cousins and coexist with human and living near human to seek shelter and security. I hope that some scientist will do a DNA profiling on them and settle once and for all that these are very valuable farm animals.

I was also involved in apiculture for a couple of years in Kudat Sabah and producing 800 kg per year. Do we realize that when there is a honey flow we actually rob the bee hives of their honey? Bees have to visit 1.2 ml flowers and in the case of Sabah the honey dew from Acacia trees to produce I Kg of honey. Where as we only collect abandon nest from swift lets farm.

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QUOTE(kuching_farmer @ Feb 26 2009, 10:52 PM)
Ben u think that we need a protest on Gov? they look like going too far now if we keep on silent.just need a person to head us now. who will it be ????
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Quote CK "Only fight battle you can win "

Keepcool simetime the price we have to pay is too high . Is it worth it. I like other readers share your opinion with us.
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QUOTE(woojia @ Mar 2 2009, 06:50 PM)
hi
nice to meet everybody. i follow ths forum abt 1 month. jt finish the post n register jt nw. learn a lot of thg from sifu here
a lot of people discuss about the blogger.
harry , ck, james,pak hen.................
my point of view is we hav to use our wisdom to choose the consultant.most of the blogger jt report the good work from them.
for example, my frien, MR Lim in melaka farm was visited by JAMES last year(he write in his blog wtith title DARING FARMER, date 11 aug 2008.)
My friend follow his advise n renovate the farm again. but very disappoined, the result even worse. JAMES never report ths in his blog.so before choose any consultant, we should learn as much as possible abt swiftlet knowledge so tht we knw is the consultant qualified to revamp our farm.
i jt want to share my point of view abt the blogger, not against anyone
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For all you know all these email of praise and appreciations are written by themselves. It’s just a sale tactics to trap unsuspecting newbie. Don’t be so naïve to think that they will tell you about their failure. Don’t believe in Endorsements from people with title like Doctor M and so on without any address or phone contact for confirmation. These operators once they get your money they are gone and kiss my ass. They know that you will cut your losses and swallow your pride and don’t want anyone to know that you have taken for a sucker.

Same goes for bird music some unscrupulous and unethical con artist will down load them from internet or cd given to them will just rename them with some dangerous and enticing names and sell them. If it don’t work their excuse is the bird in your area speak a different language or your amp is not good enough and will try to sell you new amp which he claim to have superior sound ,oh! Another RM7,000. Ha!Ha! Oh! you also need to engage him to come and tune your new amp for another RM800.00 plus travelling expenses and sea food dinner. (Can you see how fat he is compare to a year ago)The real reason is that these sounds have been used by so many BH for so long that the birds in this areas fed up and no longer respond to them. I do belief that at one time these are good cds.

A master bird music composer knows the different type of sound and will probably have only about 20 very sharp and clear sound tracts of 2 or 3 minutes in his collections. Their skill is to splice about 4 or 5 sounds to make up about 2 minutes of 4 or 5 sounds. Another skill for this master composer is their ability to tune all of them to the same sound level and the correct frequencies. You can record them in 2 channels and layer another tract to prevent other from stealing your sound. Once this is done, repeat them and record then to 1 hour cd or pen drive. Only the bull shit half pass six sifu will claim that they have 200 or 300 cds to choose from. I bet most are no longer effective.

I have one of this cd made up in front of me in a matter of 20 minutes. The new music has been tested and result recorded on video. You need to jiggle these 20 sounds around and keep your bird interested, but at last very few of us, me including don’t have the ears to differentiate the different sound. If you are interested to try, go buy a collections of very clear sound from Eka Walet’s collections at about RM60.00 each and isolate and extract all the different sound and learn to make your own bird music or buy from a respectable sifu. I get all my Bird Music from Pak Han through CK. Many are given to me FOC.

I now brew my own aroma and extract the oil from swift lets feathers and bird nest. This oil is only applied to the speakers and none on the nesting planks. This oil is sterile and contains no pathogens or mold to contaminate your NP. The odors will last for three months. The claim of hormones is just bullshit and by the way its illegal to sell hormones without lenience. If you use the highly recommended duck eggs, Kiss your BH good bye. Your planks will turn green. This self styled guru clearly does not know SHIT. Please beware.

I was overcome by greed to believe that some green looking hormones applied to the NP of my new one month old BH with six spots will fill up in no time as promised by my supplier.( I still have my respect for him as I think he sincerely belief in his product and don’t bad mouth others). All the bird left and I ended up shutting down my BH and washed all the NP plank by plank and masked the ammonia smelling hormones with a special aroma sent to me by Pak Han (for no financial considerations). It took me one month to overcome this problem. The applications of aromas will make the birds feel more at ease and stay longer in the new BH and over time with the right music and right environment will stay. I Spray a bit of aroma near the ventilation tube after each time I visit my BH will prevent stress to the birds as observed on my CCTV. The moral here is HAVE PASSION.

I hope that this is helpful and will prevent newbie like myself from being taken for a ride. These are my views and observations and I am by no way an expert. Please correct me and I will use the opportunity to learn the fine art if Swiftlets Farming.



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I am sharing my experiences and don’t choose to quarrel with any one. The swiftlers feathers oil extracted comes a yellowish green in color and a combo of feathers, nest and two other ingredients which I promised Pak Han not to review come looking like blue color but once diluted are green. All new foundations are found on areas I applied the feather extract.

The bad news as you all know is that my BH was shut down by Forestry Department since last Friday. 12 pairs still come back to roost and two new nests are being rebuilt despite that there are no ext. or Int. music. So tell me Mr. Expert how TO MOVE THEM TO ECO PARK ???

Raid by Forestry Dept. they name operation D-Day is still ongoing in MIRI,Serikei,Kuching and next will be in Sibu and Mukah. Many very depressed and desperate BH owners who are unsure of what the future holds of them and their family.

May the people who are encouraging the shutting down of BH with the agenda to promote their Eco Park, be curse for the next 3 generations. The aspired promoter of eco park in Sarawak who shamelessly used the GAHP in Kuching to promote his Eco park is coming to Miri to see me for what he call a discussion. I will see what he have got to say.


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