Just my humble suggestion is that whatever or whenever you have questions, best direct to the person and if the question is about GP, get your local Association President to phone up either Dato Beh or any of his committee members. I believe that they shall be most willingly answer any question provided that it is asked politely like I did at the AGM. By the way, each state has representative with the Fed, ask him....

I wasn't the key officers of my Association presently but I went to ask some questions and to see for myself if the Fed know what's happening to this industry. Happily, they do and I believe they may not want to publicize publicly as this will only invite unnecessary reaction or back lashes from the opposition group.

As we do know that Dato Beh or Mr.John do have many BHs in Towns including also in sensitive areas like Malacca and surely, they are also looking after their own interests as well as ours, too...... that's my opinion but I maybe wrong and please do correct me if I am.

Again, I would say that all can be negotiated or compromised but moving out presently or in the future is totally out of the question, agreed???

As for the Perhilitan tabled Bill, I need to seek more clarifications from them to answer......maybe someone here did asked and got the answer???

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Added on May 3, 2010, 3:42 pm[quote=Cergau,May 2 2010, 07:00 PM]
Unc WW,
Thanks for the feedback frm yr participation in the Fed AGM.
Fed - 1GP


Dear Cergau,

I have already PM you on your requirements and if you require anymore assistance, just PM me again...................as for the 1GP, at present all are guessing work only and best if have solid documents to support but since it is not official yet; why not be patient and wait alittle longer as Dato President has assured me that moving out of the town isn't negotiable...... and hope that he did his homework well for his own sake and our's as well.

Above are only my own opinion and view on the sensitive issue. If anyone has real news either good or bad, post here to share but never just angin news lah, nanti sakit hati semua lagi boleh juga mati lah.......tambah kena makan pill tidur malam malam.

This post has been edited by West Wing: May 3 2010, 03:56 PM

Unc WW, pls note that these Qs are not directed at you.
My point was why such good news as 'Semua OK' not disseminated to the local assoc. What's the secrecy? No one is asking for the document.
Do you not agree that it is exactly this kind of secrecy that has dire consequences for the nation?
o)Did we not purchase a submarine for the Navy that initially didnt dive and when it did, discovered that it doesn't have armaments?
Bought to bring undersea joyrides for orphans?
o)8 trainer planes for the air force that doesn't have engines but cost 2x more than with engines? Answer in Parliament was..the govt can't afford them with engines.
http://www.malaysiakini.com/v6/link.php?ht...d-in-empty.html
Need I go on?

Can we allow the Bill as it stand... that Perhilitan can do no wrong and can't be sued in court?
We need to be responsible citizen and help bring responsibility and accountability back into govt service.


I have to admit that knowing that they have some investments at risk similar to many here bring some measure of comfort.

Wish that it was that simple... that just our agreement of not moving will make it so.
All depends on what's in the 1GP!
Our argument has come full circle...so what's in the 1GP? Still waiting for the 'Semua OK' frm the Feds.

Obviously the BILL was not discussed at the AGM then.
My concern on the Feds priority vs BH owners relates to the following
"Clause 41 provides that a birds’ nest collector shall sell birds’ nest collected
by him only to a licensed dealer or licensed taxidermist."
My concern is based on past experiences on the difficulties of obtaining such licenses as shared on the forum.
To whose advantage are the absences of competing purchasers.?

This post has been edited by Cergau: May 3 2010, 05:35 PM

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Unc WW,
Still waiting for yr PM.

WW, thank you for taking all the troubles to attend the AGM and to inform us the so-called seemingly “good news” which you seemed to be happy with that you heard from FED ASSO committee. We wouldn’t want to correct you as you are entitled to your own opinion and we respect it, and we have no intention to offend anyone or to hide anything except to share a piece of our mind and findings honestly and straight to the points with facts. These are just our humble opinion, observations and also worry. We have no time to be ball carriers as our lifelines are at great stake and high risk now. Nowadays, many of us can only sleep with sleeping pills, may be you are the exception.


How sure are you that this good news is really going to materialize eventually? How much confidence you have on these characters to really perform up to the expectation as a committed and sincere committee with no personal agenda? Can you guarantee that these are not RUMOURS that they are spreading and now through you, someone trusted and respected by most of us, exploiting your ignorance, sincerity and trustworthiness to cover up their inability and inefficiency?



Why majority BH owners in Malaysia do not have good feeling and confidence on this FED ASSO committee? There must be a valid reason. So far, what have they done for the industry that has proven beneficial to the industry for the past years that convinced the owners and invited their confidence for them? It seems that the more they represented the owners in the negotiation, the more problems are created for this industry and the owners? The owners only asked for a simple straight forward LESEN PREMIS from the Local Govt under the existing Local By-Laws. And now, it attracted more and more departments wanting to be involved with more lasso intended to hang the owners. Did you realise and ask yourself? Before they formed the FEDERATION of ASSOCIATIONS two years back and claimed wanting to represent the owners, the owners did not have so much rubbish and nonsense faced. Why did they entertain the unreasonable requests to interfere into our industry by irrelevant departments? Today, even the SIRIM BOARD is proposing all BHs must apply to them for chip identification so all the nests can be audit traced. I think they are going to force owners to insert a microchip into every piece of nest harvested soon. 95% owners are just small passive investors just like the rubber or oil palm small holders owning an acre or two in the backyard. We are not big estates owners like those big PUBLIC LISTED COMPANIES such as SIME DARBY or IOI. What the various departments are contemplating now is more justified to govern the multimillion or billion ECO-PARKS, not the small owners.


It cannot be that so many people are blinded? A truly responsible committee of a responsible association must first of all really committed to their members in doing and reporting progress of important matter affecting the interest of the members in a very transparent way voluntarily. They must always remember that this is a members’ association and not a private limited company whereby they are the majority share holders. There is no reason or excuse to withhold important info from any member as all members have the right to know whether requested or not especially on matter that affects their immediate interest or lifeline dearly. There shall prevail with no secret as this is a members association unless someone is trying to exploit situation hijacking the association or doing illegal things for personal agenda or gains at the expense of the members. A good set of committee should periodically, voluntarily and timely inform members through EGMs or newsletters the latest development and progress of urgent matters to comfort them and also requesting feedbacks and positive opinions and suggestions from members. They should not do thing in the black box with whim and hiding things from members as if running a sendirian berhad or secret society. What if things don’t turn out good like what they said? What if the 1GP comes out with a lot shocking conditions affecting most members except themselves? I personal think that I would prefer to be alerted by RUMOURS and have sleepless nights and on the constant lookout to do some timely positive self-rescue than to bet and place all my life-savings on these already known unscrupulous and irresponsible committee, and later when 1GP announced, find myself bankrupt overnight. By that time, are this non-committed committee going to compensate us? Or do you dare to chop them with a parang? My friend, how much do you know the characters you mentioned of their integrity, credibility, reputations and true BAD GROUND? Please go and find out from the old timers or the locals from where they are from. Hope you don’t get shocked to heart attack when truth reviewed. Do you also know that some of them are partners in ECO-PARKS? And I am telling you it is a rumour now to you until you confirm it later yourself. Or you are so convinced and happy with sound sleep after hearing what they said to you and prepared to let them toss your luck for you?


All the news started as rumours or speculations. Normally, there wouldn’t be smoke without fire. If it is bad rumour affecting us, it alerts us and prompts us to investigate to find out early and that may give us chance and ample time to rectify and reverse a situation to our interest. If we, after hearing of rumour and still take thing easy without doing anything positive, if this rumour turns out true and against our interest, then we better bite our own ass. Remember, we welcome rumours as we may have the time and chance to blend a bad rumour into good news or to stop it from happening. I don’t think there is anybody here who is too free and comfortable wanting to give us a hoax or prank to frighten us for amusement.



1GP and PERHILITAN AMENDED ACTS 2010 are totally two different matters. 1GP is only a guidelines and it does not really have executive power. It merely guides and recommends and to refer you to the respective departments involved to apply for the necessary approvals and permits according to their set rules and conditions with the executive power vested by the CONSTITUTION to them. From what we already know, the departments involved would be, PERHILTIAN, VETERINAR, LOCAL COUNCILS, SIRIM BOARD, TOWN PLANNING, KESIHATAN and many more to come. From what I can see, in order to get an official approval to operate a small BH of only a floor whether in towns or in suburbs, and to maintain and do the necessary businesses or works relating to it after the official launching of the 1GP, one would need to obtain the numerous approvals from all the above mentioned departments with no exemption. It sounds like as if all of us are setting up a multimillion ecology unfriendly factory. Can you imagine in total how many licenses or permits we need to obtain before we can operate a BH? With the PERHILITAN AMENDMENT ACTS 2010 passed by June, regardless of the 1GP, can you guess how many licenses we need to apply and get approved from just PERHILITAN alone? License to keep swiftlet in BH, license to harvest, license to sell, license to buy, and license to………….etc. How many folds of bureaucratic lengthy and troublesome procedures given extra from PERHILITAN, let’s not to talk of licenses or permissions from other departments subsequently? Do we call that convenience and facilitation to the people encouraged by the 1MALAYSIA concept? It is totally contrary to what we are already enjoying existing in certain states or townships like Penang, Pahang, Perak, Melaka, Kelantan etc which have already issued BH licenses years ago. And only one license is required, that is from the Local Council only. And it is licensed under PETTY TRADE AND COTTAGE INDUSTRY. No involvement of any other department. Not much harassments or extortion of coffee money from the kaki tangan. This is that simple. But when the 1GP is launched or the PERHILITAN amended ACTS passed, this Lesen Premis will be revoked. Do you know how much of extra bribes needed to satisfy the kaki tangan from so many departments besides the official payments and fees? This is no rumour or speculation or slandering to our Govt. This is the true fact and nothing but the truth of our civil services. If there is no demand of coffee money then it cannot be Malaysia. We must be in Heaven then. If anyone not agreed, then challenge me? I think there is at least one thousand and one from this forum would step forward to confirm and back me. Is it how our PM going to encourage and help this industry under his 1MALAYSIA concept? Making things more difficult and complicated and miserable? Are our PM and his Ministers so blind and naïve to think that their supporting departments are doing well to garner increased support from the people for his 1MALAYSIA with these rubbish given to the people? So, where are we heading now?



I said that 1GP and PERHILITAN AMENDMENT ACTS 2010 are two different matters again as it doesn’t matter whether 1GP is going to be finalised or not, this industry will definitely face an immediate onslaught from the PERHILITAN which to our knowledge, this department has been dying to suck our blood for so long, after the June Parliament session if no one alerts and highlights to the PM, Ministers and all the MP timely to review the whole situation especially to withdraw the PERHILITAN AMENDED ACTS for further review and revision. The scenario right now is like this industry is in a HEALTH SPA feeling very hot but tolerable. And very soon, the industry will have no choice but to be forced not jumping from hot pan to fire but into both hot pan and fire altogether. Just imagine, the present PERHILITAN ACT only empowers the PERHILITAN to have jurisdiction on the AEROFRAMUS FACIPHAGUS in natural caves. Nothing mentioned on the cultivated A.F. nests from manmade sanctuaries. That is the reason why till today they could not enforce forcibly what they are trying to claim that BH is under their jurisdiction. How could the cultivated nests be under their jurisdiction? But still they exploited the ambiguity and grey area in the ACT by imposing illegitimate EXIT TAX on the export of bird’s nest and also that so far nobody takes the trouble to challenge them in court yet. But how many innocent foreigners and tourists already fallen victims to the corrupted officials in the airports while carrying gifts of bird’s nest out? Some foreigners were even jailed without trial for refusing to give bribe. The PERHILITAN PENGARAH knew it and are now trying to justify their intended hidden agenda for long term and for more kills and to legalize it and to widen their jurisdiction by amending the ACTS now by very unprofessionally misleading the PARLIAMENT to pass it in a blanket as BIRDS’ NEST WHETHER PROTECTED OR UNPROTECTED. Chicken and ducks are also birds. The PERHILITAN has been eyeing on this industry as a big piece of cake all along. It is a known fact that this department is a very controversial infamous Govt agency. We are not speculating or spreading rumour as just very recently a certain constitutional power was transferred from the Director-General to the Minister in the news. Why transfer? I think this is a scandalous precedence in Malaysia history. What a mockery? Rightfully in practice, the Govt could just interdict the DG pending MACC investigation and appoint an acting DG. This indicates that there isn’t any more credible senior officer in the department that can be trusted.



Many of us can predict and expect that once the amended ACTS passed in June and to enforce, the whole industry will instantly go into a limbo with outcries, curses and swearing on the present Federal Govt from the millions of rakyats affected. Picketing and protests will spontaneously occur across the whole nation. Soon another round of political tsunami may even be bigger than the 308 tsunami is in the making if our PM is still not alert in time and not careful. The PERHILITAN is definitely helping to open the back door of our PM for his enemies. We do not want to be involved in politics and wish to remain apolitical. But how can we continue to support the side that is giving us miseries and nightmares?



Since your boss, the President and the committee of the FED ASSO are so efficient and smart, why are they that insensitive and failed to see the immediate danger faced by the industry and to respond immediately on the PERHILITAN issue? Why was this not seriously deliberated in the AGM and to pass a resolution to protest? Isn’t the AGM is the most suitable and convenient meeting for finding solutions for these urgent issues? Why can’t your boss discuss out openly with all the members at least in the AGM regarding the situations faced and the undergoing counter actions taken by the committee to overcome them? Why does he need you to get individual to call him personally? Why so secretive? What compromise were they talking about? Could they be the proxy or agents for the Govt department? Could they trade in the BH owners’ interest for their own? A Trojen in the build? Good reason for everyone to suspect. After all, most of the leaders are strong men from MCA claiming to have strong cable. This is the main reason they are allowed to volunteer to be committee. Our situation wasn’t that good 2 years back. But it seems it has become worse since they represented the owners. Anybody disagree?


Is this a rumour we heard that the top committee had no time for more detailed discussion under other matters arising that they left in hurry to pay respect to late Lim Goh Tong after the AGM with even no dinner prepared for those committee and representatives who took the troubles to drive long distance or to fly in to attend the grand AGM? Do you call them, committed, dedicated capable and efficient committee? And you are very happy with their lame excuses? Do you, honestly, really can sleep well?



Understand that there are already no less than 100 swiftlet associations in Malaysia. Is it true that only within 18 to 20 associations are associated with this FEDERATION OF ASSOCIATIONS? Do you really think that this FED ASSO have the true representation of the industry? In this case, do you know that anybody could just kick-start a NATIONAL ASSOCIATION safely claiming to represent all by just recruiting one member each from at least 7 states under the law?


Hope you can sleep soundly without pills after this. Anyway, this is not directed to you, nothing personal for you are the good guy.

This post has been edited by Lucas 1: May 3 2010, 10:26 PM

Wow, Lucas 1,
You must have achieved some kind of record as far as length of posting is concerned.
I started reading in KL and was in Ipoh when I stopped to rub my eyes

Seriously,
As far as the Feds are concerned, it baffles me that for a National Assoc supposed representing the EBN industry in dealings with the govt.
They have chosen to only whisper their 'feel' of the situation.
What does it take for the new office bearers to boldly declare that they are indeed present in all dialogs and meetings as the industry representative and the situation is clear and good or whatever they wish to share. No one is asking for the document per se with the red RAHSIA stamped on it.

Just some ASSURANCES!! Please Sir ?
(Sedikit keterangan untuk meredakan suasana tegang.)

Just 2 little paragraphs on where the Fed Assoc is on
1)1GP
2)Conservation of Wildlife Act 2010 (Bill)

Thank You in advance.
(I may even consider kissing your hand if you wash them first)

This post has been edited by Cergau: May 3 2010, 11:14 PM

I still think these idiots don't really realize the seriousness and the negative impact the PERHILITAN AMEMDED ACT would do on the industry.......Once it is official means it is passed and firmed, then it is going to like climbimg Mt Everest to repeal it........It has to be stopped by the MPs before the next session like the tabling of the GST bill......The only way now is to alert the respective MP to make them aware and understand the consequence if passed......or another way, someone needs to bring to the notice of NAJLIS.........guess he would not like the idea of the PERHILITAN......unless he wants to take chance in the next General Election.....which could be his last battle.....

The FED ASSO committee is definitely barking at the wrong tree....banging too much on the 1GP.........the real culprit that will cripple the industry is the PERHILITAN.........

Wow! Lukas, cergau and ww all building up for the Ultimate showdown soon.

This is what i think . You guys are doing the same job but marching in different tune. But that's ok we readers knew that. The one who orchestrated the different tune is the one that's not doing anything at all like Lukas and Cergau pointed out.
Recently , I finished watching American Gangster and i can sum all these story into one short one. Someone out there is doing a good job cutting out the middleman. He is so good in his work and consistently push the matter to the parliament.

Hey guys, this person who we don't know or some of u already know is a god damn soldier that deserve to be respect to shake all the bird farmers out of business. After all , i really salute people who work his way up to convince the parliament whether thru channel or whatsoever.
Who ever is really fighting hard against him better be somebody like Russel Crowe .

Do not get me wrong. I ain't support of anything that will jeopardize the bird safety . That's my priority first.
If the law manage to squeeze thru , i only hope the birds will not get kill for finding place to stay.

What can you say about this phantom? A few of them or one single soul?



My question is ..... What are the whole 100 associations in town doing ? busy counting their money ? I think many would probably thought that , let the leader do the work , members already endorse him , so it's his job to find out since nothing much we can do to help.

I mean if really the cabinet really approves it one day, can we blame the Wild life dept for not consulting the fed ass or people who were long enough to know about the growing economics ?

By the way, Where is GEM reps? I thought GEM is also an association who are very close to this matter? Nobody doing something to stop or conduct an immediate Emergency Forum to hunt down Frank ( First America Black to control Drug deals)

Hackwire,
Good that you find so much inspiration from movies.
Just too bad we all here are not going by a script, else we will know the ending.
As Lucas 1 has pointed out, once this get to the cinemas, coming up with a sequel will be tough.
Hopefully we can make a prequel now and influence the script for the current release.

Dont read too much into our rantings. Just loud thoughts.
At the end of the day, we will still jump into same bed.

cergau, i am also sad and sleepless of what is happening to the people here. just look around , only few species left that really keep this thread running or else nothing is special about this thread anymore. buggers came in, suck information out and not willing to dip their hand into the political arena .

This is the culture already build here ... can i use the word Coward Operation. I have seen and heard a few things in my life. When Accident happen, people just want to look see. Nobody dare not or not able to help the victim. Than car passes by look see for drama even on the opposite lane when nothing happen on their side. Than some road bully attack someone on the street, every cars and motorcycle just stop watching the MMA in process like a Cock Fighting Show In Thailand.

The best of all motharfarkar malaysian is when some oranges or things fell off from the lorry, you will see a lot of good guys came and help to steal and put in their motor cycle basket and even drivers stop to collect like a Reality show for Winners who pick the most .

So, i wouldn't be so heartache anymore if coming to this sort of nonsense created by the very own people of ours. I think DL or whoever that gave up on social services already seen it and he is saying history repeating itself and when the things get tough, the tough not going ,an opposite of Billy Ocean song.

The non illiterate ah pek will not bother until enforcement takes a warrant and begin to ask them to pack just like Kg Buah Pala issue. 50 years opportunity to settle with BN but only wake up when DAP takeover.

This will never end brothers. I wish i can do to help but many just don't want to be help when tides are good and water not muddy yet ( which is since muddy already-lah, pure water never seen before mah.)

Than last night i thought of one thing, if all the grouses are made in this thread, there's only a few bunch of us and some more can you imagine how many people visit this IT site. And this swiftlet thread actually embedded deep into this Financial and Properties???? Are we sending the signal out correctly. Where is the ring?

How many of you belong to an association of bird nest, will you please state your association name . u dont have to give us your name. I bet not more than 10 are here.

1) fill nick - fill association.
2)
3)

if there's not even 100 in whole malaysia... than wait till what will happen in June.

If everyone decide NOT to tolerate what's bad around us and stand up to stop the abuse, we will not be in this situation will we?
Everyone have their threshold.
What's sad is most have very high threshold and can only be tipped over past the point of no return.
So folks like these have nothing but regrets to share with their children.
The least some of us can say is.....we tried...
Wish them luck when they have to explain if they have left this earth a better place to their grand children.
Democracy-lah, I respect their right to be less than smart.

What's more important is... what do you do with the realisation you have often shared here?

As to yr lament of apeks not knowing better. Watch this short clip below.
Worst things happen to our bros in East M'sia and see how folks (illiterate but better informed than apeks) do.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4gqci_penusah-tana

This post has been edited by Cergau: May 4 2010, 10:04 AM

Basically, even if i know i can't do anything cergau, unless the tipping point is reach. I share your sentiment and what some of you are doing is noble even some don't even have interest in the industry but been following this topic. im one of them, i don't own a bird house but i feel that people who were suppose to fight for their rights were not even there or contribute in form of monetary . if they can't help than at least donate to support the leaders to fight the cause.

How do you fight over something that is in the bloody roots of the culture.

Eg. Very obvious and typical malaysia culture.

Attending a Chinese Wedding Dinner. Time stated 7.30 pm but ceremony begins at 9pm. Can we disrupt the ceremony ? We can't do that. Now everybody making friend through the string. Those who has no string attach like some of you here may not even able to rally. Where's the rally point? The real Rally rendezvouz is actually in the association place but unfortunately it didn't exist.

Same thing in this , people will not act even though many attempts are made to scare people through the rumours and facts of 1GP but they still not reacting to this situation. They will only renounce and protest when their place got shut down.

I recall this situation once before, a lamp post was about to fall but it only tilt at 30 degrees which is not as bad as seem in the eye of authority. But mishap can happen and fell on somebody if small hurricane or windy weather occurs. So in order to get the authority to pull this pole out, we make it tilt to 60 degree downwards and the danger level had increase and next day, it was remove.

So where is the tipping point before the whole members start to realize " This is It"....I think they still do not believe that these guys cannot be bribe.

Latest from The Star, though nothing to do with EBN industry, just to show same old same old characteristic of the depts.

Initially Bakun Dam (chop down trees for timber tyfooons and generate power to white hair ), supply cleanest power to Salawak sounds great, aft tat too much power so multi-bliion ringgits sub-marine cables to Peninsular, aft tat put two environmental disaster alu smealter plants to suck all power from Bakun, aft tat no power so go build nuclear, may be nuke bomb in 2021!
Life is short in this place, may be 2021 all will be gone incl PERHILITAN. Dont take to serious with the crasy silly distorted $@!* depts. Anything can come out from the junk yard!

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...5101&sec=nation

Govt gives go-ahead for nuclear power plant by 2021
By LESTER KONG

KUALA LUMPUR: The Government has approved the setting up of a nuclear power plant, slated to start operating from 2021.
Energy, Green Technology and Water Minister Datuk Seri Peter Chin Fah Kui said his ministry has been given the go-ahead by the Economic Council to start identifying suitable sites.
Declining to reveal the possible sites and the total power deliverable, Chin said the nuclear plant needed to be built in an area with high power demand.
"Building of the first plant needs a lead time of at least 10 years.
"We need to look at the safety aspects, human resources and the location," he said, adding that the International Atomic Energy Agency had the final say on whether the plant could be built.
Technology know-how and providers may possibly come from South Korea, China, France or Japan, he added.
He stressed that a nuclear plant was sorely needed to meet the country's accelerating energy needs and ensured its energy security.
"Nuclear energy is the only viable option toward our long term energy needs.
"Our energy mix is rather unhealthy. We are depending too much on coal and oil," he told reporters after launching the first Carbon Neutral Conference on Sustainable Buildings South East Asia on Tuesday.
Chin stressed that despite nuclear energy's astronomical start-up costs, it was more cost- and energy-efficient than dotting the country with coal-fired power plants.
On the political fallout from building a nuclear plant, Chin said the Government would be ready to explain to the people the need for one.
He added that the Government would approve a project that was not good for the country. (tats copy n paste from The Star no editing ok ..haha)

This post has been edited by Bobby C: May 5 2010, 10:43 AM

Betul Betul
For once a Minister speaks the truth.

While for Sabah, it's the other extreme.
The govt is fighting to have a coal fired power plant.
http://www.malaysia-today.net/index.php?op...s&Itemid=100131

This post has been edited by Cergau: May 4 2010, 05:30 PM

Well, I am one and proudly say that I am with Persatuan Pengusaha Burung Walit Daerah Kemaman, Terengganu which is a member for the Persekutuan Persatuan Pedangan Sarang Burung Malaysia with my recommendation as I feel that we need to be informed and be heard at National level.

I started the Association to ensure that the Birds industry be protected by the united strength of the hundreds BH owners in the town and only under an Association can we be heard, loud and clear by the authorities or otherwise, one by one, we will be teared apart. So far, we have been successful but owners seem to neglect their obligations to follow directives and advices from the Association as everything seem calm. That's what wrong with us human beings and that's why we fail as we are only united when we are facing trouble....sometime it may be too late.

I believe many here are also members of their respective local swiftlets Associations and prefer not to tell and we all understand...... If we really care for the future of the swiftlets @ towns, it's better for your local Associations to join the National Association to show support and unity. If we think that the National President and his team are not doing well, then we may remove them thru election and even call for a EGM if necessary and that's democracy. One member Association 3 votes and the office bearers serve for 2 years. Local matters, local team to handle and only invite National Team to help if needed and leave national matters to the National team which may include our representatives, too.

Above are my own views and suggestions for consideration.

Very few good and brave people actually still very positive of the fight , you know who , need i mention more? I would suggest some of you guys really look into this film as the scenario is similar but not close to it yet. The way dolphin were killed every year about 23,000 per year is a big issue as compare to here .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cove_(film)
The documentary won the U.S. Audience Award at the 25th annual Sundance Film Festival in January 2009. It was selected out of the 879 submissions in the category.[3][8] On March 7, 2010 The Cove won the Academy Award for Best Documentary Film at the 82nd Academy Awards.[9]

What really change this person life to pursue his goal in releasing the dolphin in captivity is when...read this.



Please make a donation to save the dolphin in this website and do promote this weblink to help these team.


https://opsociety.worldsecuresystems.com/securedonation.htm

all of you dont want this to happen one day to swiftlet either.

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Added on May 4, 2010, 11:08 pm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002PLMJ7...ASIN=B002PLMJ74


http://www.thecovemovie.com/home.htm


We are their BIGGEST THREAT and their only hope!

This post has been edited by hackwire: May 4 2010, 11:09 PM

We all need to remember that we are all friends here and not enemy; all having the same goal and aim but only different opinions or idea on how to fight our battle or get to our destination, Everyone who post here are appreciated by all but then we have differences so just let it be as the readers are smart enough to decide which it the best way toward our goal, Swiftlets Sanctuaries Be Allowed amd prosperous with the blessing of the Government.

The Government need not provide financial support but infrastructure and most importance is the moral support should be provided if the PM's ambition to make Malaysia a Top Producer of EBN be successful instead of just a dream. If the Government really want to support the new industry, we need positive actions and not just words.

Without such assurance from the authority, we will have no confidence to push further and faster and our EBN industry will lack behind and fall further and further. Now, we are No.3 and in no time, we will be No.4 and I don't need a fortune teller to forcast our future.

Not with a corrupt gomen, not with corrupt administrator that wants to profit from the 'bird that vomits gold'!

Believe me, this is what happen to the private rice millers. They are all wipe out! Look who are profiting from this situation now and how much the Rakyat are paying for it!

Many have aked about the Federal Swiftlets Association, who and what have they done?

Their official Address is as follow:

Por Lee Tee
Executive Secretary
Persekutuan Persatuan Pedagang Sarang Burung Malaysia
C/O Por Ooi & Co. Chartered Accountants
140, Jalan Kelah Cinta Sayang, Taman Ria Jaya,
08000 Sungei Petani, Kedah.
Tel:04-7335759/04-4414033
Fax: 04-7331592/04-4416676

Email: sp@porooi.com.my

You may want to forward your questions to the Fed. Association and hope that you get your answer to your satisfaction.

I think this is the info hackwire needed.