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kb2005
post Mar 2 2009, 07:00 AM

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You mean Maybank result will be very bad ?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Mar 2 2009, 07:00 AM)
You mean Maybank result will be very bad ?
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Maybank operating result inline with most of the bank at the moment. Provision up as current economy trend and expect worse to come (hopefully won't repeat another 97/98). Company tends to preserve cash at the moment, so dividend won't be very good (and most likely only final dividend to be looking forward to).
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post Mar 2 2009, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 1 2009, 10:34 PM)
Maybank going to issue right issue of 9 share per 20 share held currently.
The price is going to be around 40% discount from average price.
Aim to raise RM6b to boost up capital base.
No interim dividend announced.
No impairment of BII & MCB, will do it at FY end (if need to, but I can't see why it need not tongue.gif ).
Dividend policy no change.
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40%? u mean it's gonna be around RM3.xx? hmm.gif
if they issue more shares.... meaning the par value is going to reduce also rite?
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:57 AM)
40%? u mean it's gonna be around RM3.xx?  hmm.gif
if they issue more shares.... meaning the par value is going to reduce also rite?
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the par value will not be affected. It will remain the same. Only the number of shares will increase.
I dont like this move actually. If a company is financially sound and healthy, why should the company asking the public for fund?!
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 08:57 AM)
40%? u mean it's gonna be around RM3.xx?  hmm.gif
if they issue more shares.... meaning the par value is going to reduce also rite?
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I think the price should be in range of RM2.70~RM3.30.
The par value will remain the same (they have no problem paying RM1 par value with even RM2.70 tongue.gif ).
Existing shareholders' shareholding won't be diluted if they subscribe to the right.
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Resorts almost hitting 12 mths low ... should be interesting ...

TMI just koyak... 1-6-12 mths low.. now no telling where it will go from there ... watch for the miricale turn around like what TM did .. becareful with this counter ...

Gd luck hunting.
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QUOTE(Ranny @ Mar 2 2009, 09:28 AM)
the par value will not be affected. It will remain the same. Only the number of shares will increase.
I dont like this move actually. If a company is financially sound and healthy, why should the company asking the public for fund?!
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Yes, you are right. Right issue never good for existing shareholders, unless some special circumstance (like acquiring some good profitable business which need extra fund to fund it).

QUOTE(htt @ Mar 2 2009, 09:38 AM)
I think the price should be in range of RM2.70~RM3.30.
The par value will remain the same (they have no problem paying RM1 par value with even RM2.70 tongue.gif ).
Existing shareholders' shareholding won't be diluted if they subscribe to the right.
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But existing shareholders need to fork out extra money on it. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 2 2009, 09:38 AM)
I think the price should be in range of RM2.70~RM3.30.
The par value will remain the same (they have no problem paying RM1 par value with even RM2.70 tongue.gif ).
Existing shareholders' shareholding won't be diluted if they subscribe to the right.
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wow.... that's pretty unfair huh? it's like forcing the existing shareholders to subscribe..... but i'm kind of confuse here...... with the extra no. of shares being issued, how did they maintain the RM1 par value? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 09:53 AM)
wow.... that's pretty unfair huh? it's like forcing the existing shareholders to subscribe..... but i'm kind of confuse here...... with the extra no. of shares being issued, how did they maintain the RM1 par value?  hmm.gif
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The paid up capital is increased in process of the right issue. So Par value won't be affected.

Just like ABC company has 1 million share with Par value Rm1. So paid up capital is 1 million. Now it issued another 1 million which existing shareholders fork out extra money (1 million) on it and now the paid up become 2 million with 2 million of shares.



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OMG, all stocks sink
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raise capital to beli BII haha
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 2 2009, 09:57 AM)
The paid up capital is increased in process of the right issue. So Par value won't be affected.

Just like ABC company has 1 million share with Par value Rm1. So paid up capital is 1 million. Now it issued another 1 million which existing shareholders fork out extra money (1 million) on it and now the paid up become 2 million with 2 million of shares.
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i see.... so they are only raising the capital from the existing shareholders huh? wat if nobody is willing to subscribe? tongue.gif
BTW, GENTING 3.38 now!!!! shocking.gif
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all in good time, now we r going to see a recap on the Nov/Dec 08 crash ...

watch the market bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeddd...


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i smell blood.. what to buy? what to buy?
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:09 AM)
i see.... so they are only raising the capital from the existing shareholders huh? wat if nobody is willing to subscribe? tongue.gif
BTW, GENTING 3.38 now!!!!  shocking.gif
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If you have ordinary share and don't want to subscribe, I might want to take your share... haha... they issue in discount so people cannot say don't want to buy (subscribe mean no win no loss, not subscribe loss immediately).
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Mar 2 2009, 10:05 AM)
OMG, all stocks sink
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Monday blues mah..
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 09:53 AM)
wow.... that's pretty unfair huh? it's like forcing the existing shareholders to subscribe..... but i'm kind of confuse here...... with the extra no. of shares being issued, how did they maintain the RM1 par value?  hmm.gif
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if issue at RM2.70 => RM1 went to share capital (par value) & RM1.70 went to share premium. Then where got affect par value?
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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:15 AM)
i smell blood.. what to buy? what to buy?
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must be some really bad news out there, most likely corporate results spooked all the FF to swing into full gear of massive selling.. (although volume wise it looks like its pretty thin.)

A sign of weakness in the Plantation sector...
look at crude oil btw, its slumping faster than expected... should hit 1700 +/- within this week alone.

March Mega Sale?

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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Mar 2 2009, 10:09 AM)
i see.... so they are only raising the capital from the existing shareholders huh? wat if nobody is willing to subscribe? tongue.gif
BTW, GENTING 3.38 now!!!!  shocking.gif
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If the right issue cannot fully placed out or subscribed, then share price will tank. Because right issue mean company need money, no money then company cash situation is under risk.

QUOTE(htt @ Mar 2 2009, 10:25 AM)
If you have ordinary share and don't want to subscribe, I might want to take your share... haha... they issue in discount so people cannot say don't want to buy (subscribe mean no win no loss, not subscribe loss immediately).
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For those don't want to subscribe, it is best to dispose before its ex-date. Because share price will adjusted according to the differentiation between current share price and its right issue price.
If hold after ex-date of right issue, and don't want to subscribe, existing shareholders will be losing big time, unless the right issue price is higher than share price in the market at that time.

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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 2 2009, 10:25 AM)
If you have ordinary share and don't want to subscribe, I might want to take your share... haha... they issue in discount so people cannot say don't want to buy (subscribe mean no win no loss, not subscribe loss immediately).
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For rights issue, when you are subscribing, always always always subscribe extra!!

There is a provision for you to acquire extra rights share in the form, normally you can't get all you state but get some of it if the sale is not fast and furious. I remember YTLPOWER rights, I applied for extra 500 rights and got about 300 extra, if i known I should've ask for 100000 extra because was not sure whether can or not. I just tembak only because the broker told me that whatever I don't get, will be refunded anyway. So I paid for 500 extra rights, got 300 and was paid back with cheque for 200 which I didn't get. No loss only gain.



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