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Engineering Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (LAME), Guide & everything about this career!

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Learjet35
post Mar 30 2012, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 30 2012, 07:55 AM)
so that means if i go miat i have to include total degree/diploma + foundation + 5 year field experience while in ATO such as APR only 4 year (training)+ 2 year field experience?  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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PART-66 (JAR-66).A.30 Experience requirements



(a) An applicant for an PART-66 (JAR-66) Aircraft Maintenance License shall have acquired:

1. for category A and subcategories B1.2 and B1.4:

(i) three years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft, if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training; or

(ii) two years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the competent authority as a skilled worker, in a technical trade; or

(iii) one year of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a Part-147 approved basic training course.

2. for category B2 and subcategories B1.1 and B1.3:

(i) five years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training; or

(ii) three years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the competent authority as a skilled worker, in a technical trade; or

(iii) two years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a Part -147 approved basic training course.

3. for category C with respect to large aircraft:

(i) three years of experience exercising category B1.1, B1.3 or B2 privileges on large aircraft or as Part-145 B1.1, B1.3 or B2 support staff, or, a combination of both; or

(ii) five years of experience exercising category B1.2 or B1.4 privileges on large aircraft or as Part-145 B1.2 or B1.4 support staff, or a combination of both; or

4. for category C with respect to non large aircraft:

three years of experience exercising category B1 or B.2 privileges on non large aircraft or as Part-145 B1 or B.2 support staff, or a combination of both; or

this is for easa.
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QUOTE(bandit94822 @ Mar 30 2012, 07:55 AM)
so that means if i go miat i have to include total degree/diploma + foundation + 5 year field experience while in ATO such as APR only 4 year (training)+ 2 year field experience?  flex.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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and this one for DCA Part 66

Experience requirements
a) An applicant for an AML shall have acquired:

i) for category A and subcategories B1.2 and B1.4:
1. three (3) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft, if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training;
or
2. two (2) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by DGCA
as a skilled worker in a technical trade; or
3. one (1) year of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of an appropriately approved basic training
course.

ii) for category B2 and subcategories B1.1 and B1.3:
1. five (5) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training;
or
2. three (3) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the
DCAM as a skilled worker in a technical trade; or
3. two (2) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of an appropriately approved basic training
course.

source : http://www.dca.gov.my/Division/Airworthine...s/AN%201101.pdf
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Mar 30 2012, 06:16 PM)
PART-66 (JAR-66).A.30 Experience requirements
(a) An applicant for an PART-66 (JAR-66) Aircraft Maintenance License shall have acquired:

1. for category A and subcategories B1.2 and B1.4:

(i) three years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft, if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training; or

(ii) two years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the competent authority as a skilled worker, in a technical trade; or

(iii) one year of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a Part-147 approved basic training course.

2. for category B2 and subcategories B1.1 and B1.3:

(i) five years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training; or

(ii) three years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the competent authority as a skilled worker, in a technical trade; or

(iii) two years of practical maintenance experience on operating aircraft and completion of a Part -147 approved basic training course.

3. for category C with respect to large aircraft:

(i) three years of experience exercising category B1.1, B1.3 or B2 privileges on large aircraft or as Part-145 B1.1, B1.3 or B2 support staff, or, a combination of both; or

(ii) five years of experience exercising category B1.2 or B1.4 privileges on large aircraft or as Part-145 B1.2 or B1.4 support staff, or a combination of both; or

4. for category C with respect to non large aircraft:

three years of experience exercising category B1 or B.2 privileges on non large aircraft or as Part-145 B1 or B.2 support staff, or a combination of both; or

this is for easa.
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Mar 30 2012, 07:41 PM)
and this one for DCA Part 66

Experience requirements
a) An applicant for an AML shall have acquired:

i) for category A and subcategories B1.2 and B1.4:
1. three (3) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft, if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training;
or
2. two (2) years  of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by DGCA
as a skilled worker in a technical trade; or
3. one (1) year of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of an appropriately approved basic training
course.


ii) for category B2 and subcategories B1.1 and B1.3:
1. five (5) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft if the applicant has no previous relevant technical training;
or
2. three (3) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of training considered relevant by the
DCAM as a skilled worker in a technical trade; or
3. two (2) years of practical maintenance experience on operating
aircraft and completion of an appropriately approved basic training
course.


source : http://www.dca.gov.my/Division/Airworthine...s/AN%201101.pdf
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i think i m right thumbup.gif APR is an ATO so the TAME program shd be an approved basic training course...though still not sure wads the part 147 means cool.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 09:49 PM

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147-approved training organisation for easa.
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:18 PM

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See what I mean? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 30 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 30 2012, 10:18 PM)
See what I mean? biggrin.gif
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post Mar 31 2012, 12:39 AM

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okay i will stick to APR....now find loan for it ....== do i need to take their program 1st or apply for loan rclxub.gif 1st ?


Added on March 31, 2012, 12:42 am
QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Mar 30 2012, 09:49 PM)
147-approved training organisation for easa.
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thx btw tongue.gif

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bandit we might need to resort to EPF or bank loan or the worst case scenario , mortgage our house lol doh.gif
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The bitter truth is, if you can't finance yourself into a Part 147 ATO, get your self into these Diploma twinned with a license programme (EASA or DCA Part 66) course, in view of getting the PTPTN loans etc.. you'll get there eventually (hopefully).
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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 31 2012, 02:08 AM)
The bitter truth is, if you can't finance yourself into a Part 147 ATO, get your self into these Diploma twinned with a license programme (EASA or DCA Part 66) course, in view of getting the PTPTN loans etc.. you'll get there eventually (hopefully).
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jazzy u do part time lecturing at miat right? do u know if the degree is twinned with a license programme?
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post Mar 31 2012, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(meddie @ Mar 31 2012, 12:56 PM)
jazzy u do part time lecturing at miat right? do u know if the degree is twinned with a license programme?
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both diploma or degree from miat tak ada twinning with a license.. nod.gif

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QUOTE(meddie @ Mar 31 2012, 01:58 AM)
bandit we might need to resort to EPF or bank loan or the worst case scenario , mortgage our house lol  doh.gif
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tats what i m headache about now lol vmad.gif doh.gif rclxub.gif


Added on March 31, 2012, 1:23 pm
QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Mar 31 2012, 02:08 AM)
The bitter truth is, if you can't finance yourself into a Part 147 ATO, get your self into these Diploma twinned with a license programme (EASA or DCA Part 66) course, in view of getting the PTPTN loans etc.. you'll get there eventually (hopefully).
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den i have to spend more years for training experiences before getting LAME coz MIAT non ATO rclxub.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(thesun @ Mar 31 2012, 01:01 PM)
both diploma or degree from miat tak ada twinning with a license..  nod.gif
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WHAT?!
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yes, tak ada. but as miat student, the subjects that we learn during our semesters are pretty much right about the same as exam module.

as an example, i'm on 'old' diploma which is Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Technology in Avionics. all subjects in my course are pretty much based on old Section L module if i'm not mistaken. i might be wrong in this tho sweat.gif .

anyway, if you're asking whether while doing diploma or degree in miat you can take exam module from dca? yes, you can. if miat has got an ATO status you can take exam as MIAT student through MIAT QA. right now MIAT is not an ATO. those who can't wait and want to go for 5 years long route can take exam module from dca as an outsider (no one have done this as far as i know)

but , twinning programme? no.
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QUOTE(camel90 @ Mar 31 2012, 02:24 PM)
yes, tak ada. but as miat student, the subjects that we learn during our semesters are pretty much right about the same as exam module.

as an example, i'm on 'old' diploma which is Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Technology in Avionics. all subjects in my course are pretty much based on old Section L module if i'm not mistaken. i might be wrong in this tho sweat.gif .

anyway, if you're asking whether while doing diploma or degree in miat you can take exam module from dca? yes, you can. if miat has got an ATO status you can take exam as MIAT student through MIAT QA. right now MIAT is not an ATO. those who can't wait and want to go for 5 years long route can take exam module from dca as an outsider (no one have done this as far as i know)

but , twinning programme? no.
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adoiiii pening kpala aeihhhh doh.gif
btw camel90 , do u think that miat will get ato status in this two , three years?
im going for a degree in mechanical there , i think wink.gif kalau dah grad nanti kan at least kalau xdapat ambik exam DCA pon ,
ada kerja ka eh for this degree? silly question i know , but if miat still doesn't get itself an ATO status , we're doomed doh.gif

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hye Jazzy,

I just wondering,do u know any other short course that might increase my market value ? perhaps like mro management that kind of stuff,or NDT inspection,boroscope specialist ?
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Hi Maryjane,
I know one company that put preferences ( they asked in the interview) if you have done Project Management courses, typically Check Management System. Yes, these are specialized course and can be costly (RM2K per head for 3-5 days course.
Other value added course would be, Radio Telephony, Supervisory Skills, Leadership Skills, Team Building, Problem Solving & Decision Making to name but a few...
The next question from you I expected to be, where to get these courses!, right? laugh.gif

My answer: Good question! tongue.gif

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QUOTE(jazzy939 @ Apr 2 2012, 07:42 PM)
Hi Maryjane,
I know one company that put preferences ( they asked in the interview) if you have done Project Management courses, typically Check Management System. Yes, these are specialized course and can be costly (RM2K per head for 3-5 days course.
Other value added course would be, Radio Telephony, Supervisory Skills, Leadership Skills, Team Building, Problem Solving & Decision Making to name but a few...
The next question from you I expected to be, where to get these courses!, right? laugh.gif

My answer: Good question! tongue.gif
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Hey u always one step ahead.. thumbup.gif

Ok,i did module 21 which is Effective Leadership in Maintenance..But i would be more than happy,if i can enrol in those short course as u mentioned above.

I try to check on our local institution in this case APR for those short course.It came out quite a few on their website.

Aircraft Sheet Metal
Apron Safety
Supervisory Skills
Office Management
Quality Management Program
Aviation Welding / Oil & Gas
Technical English With Aviation Application (TEWAA)
Maintenance Human Factors*
Maintenance Error Management System*
ICAO / EASA / CAA Requirements*
Regulatory Compliance / Start-up Advice*
Safety Management System*
Quality Assurance*
Aircraft Certification*
Aircraft Continued Airworthiness*
Aviation Research Projects*
National Aviation Authority System and Staff Development*
Airline / Operator Safety Review*

I really need your opinion on which course should i enrol in that can help pursuing my career.Is there any other institution that offer this short course ? I dont mind to enrol in 2-3 course if its worth of the money. smile.gif
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maryjane,
good ground work there! thumbup.gif
honestly, I do not know any other ATOs that offers similar/ value added courses as per our discussion. Bear in mind that APR do not schedule these course regularly, as they are for 'on demand' only and/or there is a minimum of 10 registrations to warrant a class. Also the particular instructor may not be available for that class/course to run.
I suggest you call them to get a better 'picture'...

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Sorry to intrude... i was searching for something on google and came across topic bout this LAME thing in LOW YAT... i'm surprised there are quite some interest in this field..... anyway.... Dear Maryjane... those course u listed.... most propably created by the training school..to cater for company.... company requested... they come out with the course to train the staff of the company.... as an outside... for an outsider..... those courses wouldnt mean much... i could be wrong...just an opinion.....

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