thanks 4 replying johny ...the following is some info i could collect about thier progarm:-


OJT : EASA PART 66 PROGRAM / APPRENTICE AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE ENGINEERING
Duration : Three (3) Years(for Avionics is 5 years)
Venue : Ipoh, Perak Darul Ridzuan
Intake : January 05, 2009 onwards



COURSE

1. MLVK Level 3 :
*Aircraft Mechanic (Mechanical) Aeroplane I Piston
*Aircraft Mechanic (Mechanical) Aeroplane I Turbine
*Aircraft Mechanic (Mechanical) Aeroplane II Turbine
*Aircraft Mechanic (Avionics) Aeroplane
*Aircraft Mechanic (Mechanical) Helicopter Turbine



2.Enrolment Fees Breakdown including Accomodation (non-refundable) :

Registration Fees : 250.00
Library : 200.00
Insurance : 40.00
Name Tag : 20.00
Epaulette : 20.00
Materials : 250.00
MLVK Level 3 Certificate : 350.00
Examination Fees (Each Module 17 x 65) : 1,105.00
T-Shirts (2) + Cap (1) : 70.00
TOTAL ENROLMENT FEES : 2,305.00

Tuition Fees :
1st Year : RM 20,000.00
2nd Year : RM 20,000.00
3rd Year : RM 20,000.00
TOTAL TUITION FEES : RM 60,000.00

GRAND TOTAL
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RM 62,305.00



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UK CAA PART - 66 MODULE : £ 67 per Module
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Those who join will enjoy --------------- > MONTHLY SALARY : RM 300.00 + EPF + SOCSO

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p.s after this progarm u will be a LWTR...and can futher your study in uk(dregee)

i hope this info helps...but i just do not understand why co. like air asia do not take people from this place...WHY THE HELL THEY DONT??? ...lol

Now the whole world is in short of LAME.. but how about the future 5-10yrs.. I scare after we graduated and get the license but no job to work since the past few years more and more ppl is getting this course..

ya...ya...im worry from the same factor...last i hear that SIA is alredy cutting thier LAME to cut cost...some like my friend get less income then they used to .... so those of u saying whole world is in short of LAME...u guys are going 2 have a shok of your lifez ....economic break down world wide can cause a havoc u know...lol

From what you've stated, I would say AATC isn't an approved maintenance training organisation under JAR-147 Approved Maintenance Training Organisations http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/ELGDBook_07_WebVersion.pdf . Most training schools would boast about their capabilities and recognition obtained. MLVK level 3 isn't the same as EASA part 66 from my pov. At least in terms of spelling. In aviation, wording plays a very very important role. If it states there it is MLVK level 3. Then it is MLVK level 3 only unless stated otherwise. Please investigate. I've done some but I'm too lazy to look further. For me it's simple, you got it, you say it.

About Air Asia not taking people from said school, there could be various reasons. Some of it:

1) The school never took the initiative to offer Air Asia the possibility of becoming a man power supplier for them
2) The school failed the audit conducted by the QA dept from Air Asia if 1) isn't the reason. (Main reason I think).
3) Failure to prove that they are a recognized institution or they provide approved training modules. You can always refer to DCA (Malaysia) for this one). Browse through www.dca.gov.my for contact details
4) It's not AATC's company, they have the right to do whatever they want with their recruitment policy.

£67 is the fee for the examination per module. Not the whole course. http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/200813SRGInfoAlert.pdf

Why worry so much about job opportunities. Trust me, as long as there are aircrafts flying, you'll be guaranteed a job. Overtime, your value will increase with certifications/approvals you obtained. There's a risk in everything. People grow old, people die, people got maimed, people retired.

P/s: I might've overlooked some information, so correct me if there's anything misguiding or inaccurate about what I've posted.
Pp/s: a friend of mine just flew to UK for a 6-month EASA course+exam, will try to contact him for clarification on certain issues.

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Added on March 3, 2009, 5:50 pmOh yea, read page 1. Don't miss a line, they covered most issues already. Props to the compiler.

This post has been edited by Johny123: Mar 3 2009, 05:50 PM

ya understand whatever you said...and i knew before hand also about some of the info u given ....but i just wanted 2 know about the airasia problem only...but afew year back till last year airasia was taking thier manpower from this school... so i just wonder why they have stopped ..... and what is MLVK level 3??....and if so its not the same as easa why the LWTR people come from this place have easa recognition... ...

kevin,
I am not responding on behalf of AA rather the way I see it from their point of view.

Unfortunately it is AA's perogative not to take in anyone from any establishment based on their (undisclosed) reasons. It could be that the affected people from that establishment fall short of the industry standards or expectations. This is a fact that we have to live with.

Then again, there are other establishments that will be hiring you if you are suitably qualified, so why worries?


This post has been edited by jazzy939: Mar 4 2009, 11:17 AM

what are the other establishments mr.jazzy...

Other than AA, who are the players in the industry?
With EASA license, hit Europe then!

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Kevin,

Does AATC partnering with any Part 147 school for the training?
Where will u sit for your EASA exam? On-site? Somewhere else?
Any previous batches of students/trainees?

answer:

1) i dnt myself if hv if partnering with any Part 147 school for the training bt think they do their own traning
2)u sit for yr easa exam in the british council in KL i think
3)they hv abt 100 ppl u are students of ths school... and some who are LWTR are working alredy...some even in aa

anywayz u guyz should give me the answers abt ths skol bt looks like every1 is bur like me in ths matter...lol

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Added on March 5, 2009, 10:31 amu think mas or other "tempatan" players in the industry will take me...
i wanna go to Europe...but want some experience before i can go there...

This post has been edited by kevin77: Mar 5 2009, 10:31 AM

How do people in the pass get their way to be an LAME, when there isn't any relevant local institutions yet? What are the criteria to consider when an airline hire a junior technician?

Hard work and persistence.

Academic wise? Do they hire SPM leavers?

I'm just posting questions that u should've asked them.
So why not Nilai, MIAT, or TAFE?

Most definitely not in big airlines. Slim chance in small general aviation company, if can consider working from far,far below. One of my colleague start as office boy in similar company, then allowed to wash, help push aircraft out, before allowed to work on it. 3 years down, my guess he earn around rm1800 as technician with just SPM. I consider him as lucky, thanks to his uncle whom own the company where he started off. so this means, it is possible to work with only SPM (better if your uncle own an aviation company). a few more years, he can qualify for exam. Hard work and persistence . mind u, this is a general aviation company.

I don't think we are blur about what to do with regard to EASA/LWTR license, I am wondering though, why would you go for something that doesn't provide a clear idea of what they are planning for you. You spoke as if you understand everything, ask the school after the MLVK Level 3 program, what will you do? Am I eligible for the exams (per module)? Yes/No, but you may or may not yet be qualified to receive the license. Why? Duration, company approval etc? Are the years spent in this program inclusive in that minimum experience requirement as per BCAR/EASA?Can these questions be answered?

After the program, what are the job prospects? Can they recommend you to join any local companies? Do they have their own manpower supplier division ? If you ask us these questions, who are we to know about it.

In the past, people from that school got LWTR, but how?? MLVK level 3 is a passport for you to work in the aircraft maintenance industry.

Now go back to the pre-requisites for the LWTR exam in Malaysia under BCAR section L. The school might be the one who trained them so that they could be accepted into the industry, were they the one who guided these people to get their license?

Just an fyi, you can do it without going through any programs. Saves your money, but it will need a truckload of hardwork. Buying your own reference materials, whilst at the same time trying to collect work experience etc. But how would you join the industry without a single certificate (technical training) in hand (unless you are willing to start from the lowest position [respectively] as what Lestat has mentioned)? We are going in circles here. MLVK level N comes into play, where N could be whatever number.


The requirements to sit for LWTR/EASA are really simple. But you can choose the super hard way or the organised way.

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Added on March 6, 2009, 3:11 pmMy post might sound a bit harsh, but seriously, gotta be careful when it comes to legislation issues. MIAT/APR learned the hard way. It's a waste of time.

This post has been edited by Johny123: Mar 6 2009, 03:35 PM

Can anyone list down all the collages and University at Overseas that provide This Course including Diploma and Degree please.
And the approx cost.

This would help also to put it in the front page.

Wow. Thats a tall order!

can sum1 explain wat is cat A n cat C ??
Airframe, Engine, Electrical, Electrical, Instrument and Radio are the traits rite?
n the Cat B1 n Cat B2 are the LWTR rite? cn we take both license at a time?

About The Cat A,B,C check the ELGD, it is the type of license
about both the license im not sure, but if im not mistaken, its possible

its the trade, Easa and Bcar a bit different
For Cat B1 License, there is (A)Airframe, © Engine and (E)Electrical
For Cat B2 (E)Electrical (I)Instrument ®Radio

For bcar it is individually, Got A, C, X, R
for bcar even i dont quite understand for the X trade