Honestly, in the working world whatever degree you have in hand, you will earn about Rm 1500-Rm 2000 for starting pay. Unless you're a doctor of course. So, I don't see a reason of fighting and saying anything about how this degree is useless because the starting pay is low.

In reality, it's not about your degree, it's your attitude, communication skills, and contacts will get you further in life. This applies to ALL jobs available in the market. There is no point saying this degree is useless because the pay is low etc

For opinions that state that doing business will allow you to earn more money...

Again, It applies for everyone regardless of what degree you're holding. Doctors, too, earn more money when they start venturing in businesses (Do you not consider establishing a clinic a form of business?)

Yeah, it's true that close to 80% of job applicants ended up doing jobs that are none related to their degree.

However, example,you may end up doing sales but perhaps with a biomedical science degree it gives you a better chance to excel in your work if you're working for a lab technology company than those who only took business management for a degree?

The truth is, everything is somehow related and there is no way you can say which degree is useless.

It doesn't matter which degree you are holding but if your mind remains in a gutter, I doubt you will succeed in life. A degree can only get you this far in life and it's up to you and yourself to reach a greater heights. A degree is just a stepping stone for whatever you do.

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Added on January 10, 2009, 4:54 pmABout that, not entirely true. Many lecturers in universities are immersed in the world of research and research is a never ending job. Most probably some of them even have to work longer than the daily 9 to 5 time period. Certain experiments require longer time to have their results observed

This post has been edited by eclecticube: Jan 10 2009, 04:54 PM

wow. thx for lots of clarification, eclecticube

i have a different opinion on that...while lecturers might have to work longer hours but it is not due to research..they might work longer due to night classes or some other stuff.. for those research, they r carried out by the masters/phd students so the ones working late r the masters/phd student.. lecturers only supervise or consult them regarding their research..

but when there's semester break, lecturers still need to work..no holiday but their work is other than teaching.. unless u r teacher then student holiday u oso holiday

nah... I still agree that alot of lecturers are involved with research.. and most of their long working hours are due to that.

In fact... I would do that too..

But whatever you want to do with the degree is up to you. Whether you want to further or you want to kanchiong go work immediately is up to individuals...

yup i mean i agree lecturers are involved in research..this is a fact cuz without them how the master/phd students get supervised..but they r not the ones hands on doing the experiments hence no need to stay up late due to the research..

They do. Like previously mentioned, research is a never ending job. Sure, they might supervise postgraduate students but they themselves are also involved in other individual projects. This happens to most of the cases. Just because the scientist already managed to write one journal it doesn't mean that they will never continue with new projects.

in order to get promoted... from lecturer to snr lecturer to associate proff and finally prof is due to the number of publication you produce..

If like dat.. den no1 been promoted lah....

LOL. Definitely. I hope this clears up the apparent misunderstanding due to shallow minded opinions

haha..hopefully..=P

Emm, if im not mistaken, the final year of the biomed is almost 100% research work rite? Or was it the year while taking Honours? I really want to clear with all the details about biomed which i will be taking this coming Feb

What do you mean by while taking honours? I thought the degree itself would be an honours programme?

About research work, yes it is done at the final year for my university that is. I'm not sure about other unis as different unis have different approaches although the degree itself is the same.

Just like how Biomedical Science degree of Monash is different than the one in IMU. From what I heard from my friend who used to study in Monash for a while before switching to IMU, the biomedical science degree in Monash emphasises more on tropical disease. I'm not 100% sure about this but it's better if you ask the management of the uni you are going to thoroughly. Sometimes, it can be quite tricky because different people in one management can tell you different stories so it's best you really have to clear your doubts to avoid regretting later

This post has been edited by eclecticube: Jan 11 2009, 06:53 PM

Oh Honours is part of degree? Ok learnt sumthg new today i tot was separated lol. Anyways, the last year of research work requires the student to work with a lecturer or with a real biomed lab scientist? Heard too much from ppl arnd me. They might gimme wrong info, so wanna make sure i get my facts right frm u guys

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Added on January 11, 2009, 7:18 pmcorrection: from u girls i mean

This post has been edited by charles2690: Jan 11 2009, 07:19 PM

Well for us, it's with lecturer.I think it is. Not too sure of that though. But we do have postings to laboratories from 4th sem onwards. So yeah, we work with both lecturers and lab technicians. But then again, I'm not too sure bout the system in Monash..

Here are some options for Biomedical science in private instituitions in Malaysia (Click them):

UTAR - BSc.Biomedical Science (Hons)

IMU - BSc,Biomedical Science (Hons)

MSU - BSc,Biomedicine (Hons)


choose~

Being an IMU student. The timetable of a biomedical science undergrad is extremely hectic. including 1st sem itself. I dont know about other uni.. but best of all is to get ready first

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Added on January 12, 2009, 10:00 amabout research... we have industrial attachments during sem 4 and 5... that is i think lah they put us somewhere and try working with biomedical scientists or something connected to the future career. Sem 6 we have our research project where a lecturer is given to supervise us. The research project itself is 4 credit units.

This post has been edited by n_n: Jan 12 2009, 10:00 AM

I suggest that Biomed students start thinking about making their research proposal from semester 1. Starting early will help you A LOT in your final year.

Ask the lecturers, they'll help you~

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Mar 1 2009, 12:35 AM

Can anyone tell me what a bio med really does? I was plaining to take bio med because i like research works, lab works....but then there's some1 who advised me to take medicine instead of biomed. I know it's a totally different type of work. But taking biomed and really become a scientist is a long pathway and hardly gets a job right? I'm so confused right now...

It is up to you weather to take up medicine or biomedical science. You could try Biomedical science first and later proceed to do medicine if you wish.

You will spend a longer time of course, but a BSc. in biomedical science will help you in your medical studies should you wish to enter medicine later.

to enter biomedical, STPM CGPA need how many?

Hey guy!you are really very resourceful and always willing spend much time find all this link!Thanks!!!

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Added on March 2, 2009, 8:35 pm3 principal for any of your sciences subjects! Most uni have the same entry requirement!The best subjects combination will be including biology!The UTAR consultant told me before!

This post has been edited by MBBS siang: Mar 2 2009, 08:35 PM