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charles2690
post Jan 8 2009, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 7 2009, 11:48 AM)
of course can sustain your living..even a bus driver can sustain living..depends on how much u spend...
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Oh, alrite. Maybe i rephrase the question again. (so sorry). Am I able to sustain a comfortable living as in i still have available cash at the end of the month for my family n myself after paying th bills, loans n stuff.

Sorry if my question is to vague or sumthg. I'm very worried bout how my career would affect me establishing financial stability in the future. rclxub.gif I really enjoy doing biomed.

Its just tht my main proirity now is my loved ones. Am i able to support to only myself but my family too? I apologised for inspesific qestion in my previous post. sweat.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 10:52 AM

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well... everything you gotta start small right? this is not instant mee or noodle you can get it just like dat. If you are to work and required a high pay there and then. I dont think they will accept you especially now...

start small in everything...
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post Jan 8 2009, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(nickyf1ferrari @ Jan 8 2009, 01:26 AM)
Well some people do work whether they are unhappy or not. Making the choice in the first place gives you right to have feelings for your work in the future. I know this because i have a love and hate feeling towards my previous job  cool2.gif
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Yeah true, in desperate measures, i would rather choose another job if that job enables me to support my family n myself though i do not have much interest in it. So, in short, im saying tht i would put responsibility over my very own interests.

Unlike graduates from well rich & established families, let say a graduate earns rm1700/month, of course he/she is able to support himself/herself (cuz the family members earns enuf), but would that rm1700 now be enough for him/her to support the current household?

Jz expressing my views ya. i apologize if any of my opinions contradicts any of u guys. icon_rolleyes.gif i come in peace! smile.gif


Added on January 8, 2009, 11:03 am
QUOTE(n_n @ Jan 8 2009, 10:52 AM)
well... everything you gotta start small right? this is not instant mee or noodle you can get it just like dat. If you are to work and required a high pay there and then. I dont think they will accept you especially now...

start small in everything...
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yeah true smile.gif so, izzit guarenteed tht the company tht employs u will give u a raise as u work along the years? neva want my salary to remain stagnant even if i hav worked for 5 years!! lol biggrin.gif

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post Jan 8 2009, 11:12 AM

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i am not talking about a raise here.. I am talking about upgrading oneself. See if you get a MAsters you salary will definitely be higher right... dont mention a PhD...

Recession time like this hard to say loe
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post Jan 8 2009, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(charles2690 @ Jan 8 2009, 11:00 AM)
Yeah true, in desperate measures, i would rather choose another job if that job enables me to support my family n myself though i do not have much interest in it. So, in short, im saying tht i would put responsibility over my very own interests.

Unlike graduates from well rich & established families, let say a graduate earns rm1700/month, of course he/she is able to support himself/herself (cuz the family members earns enuf), but would that rm1700 now be enough for him/her to support the current household?

Jz expressing my views ya. i apologize if any of my opinions contradicts any of u guys.  icon_rolleyes.gif i come in peace! smile.gif


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yeah true smile.gif so, izzit guarenteed tht the company tht employs u will give u a raise as u work along the years? neva want my salary to remain stagnant even if i hav worked for 5 years!! lol biggrin.gif
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i personally feel 1700 is not enough.. but as a starting pay u can just accept it and try to cut cost here n there for the 1st few months / a year.. the pay would rise but i dun think much.. maybe from 1700 - 2000..
thats y malaysians like to go overseas to get a job.. starting pay is almost the same but the currentcy there is higher.

in bio field upgrading ur level is also important as what n_n said.. learn as much as u can and gain as much experience as u can and ur "worth" will increase also.. thats what i think..
if ur worried doing research give less pay than be a lecturer.. tutors in MMU get ~2000 a month.. lecturers get ~3000.. phd = ~6000 n mmu is known for low paying the lecturers.. thats what i heard when i asked my lec..
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post Jan 8 2009, 11:34 AM

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this kind of thing what's important is strategy and planning. you cannot go up to your boss with only a degree and say. hey i want high pay...~ what about all those with PhD... the company bankrupt wor!
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post Jan 8 2009, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(n_n @ Jan 8 2009, 11:12 AM)
i am not talking about a raise here.. I am talking about upgrading oneself. See if you get a MAsters you salary will definitely be higher right... dont mention a PhD...

Recession time like this hard to say loe
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Oh okay okay. Thx. Yeah, recession might get even worse in near futurem Jz hope it wouldnt. Lots of unemployed now. thx n_n smile.gif sorry if i offended u or anythg. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on January 8, 2009, 12:05 pmAlritem guys. Thx! Your explanations cleared my doubts. thx n_n & Evansoon. Been a great help.

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post Jan 8 2009, 12:05 PM

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nah you din offend me d

just offering my two cents worth...

all the best!!!
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post Jan 8 2009, 01:20 PM

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i didnt know got lecturer without phd 1..but wif phd is 6k?? not bad.. starting salary 6k d?? i oso wanna be lectuer like dat
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post Jan 8 2009, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 8 2009, 01:20 PM)
i didnt know got lecturer without phd 1..but wif phd is 6k?? not bad.. starting salary 6k d?? i oso wanna be lectuer like dat
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True. cool2.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 01:57 PM

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yeap... in this world now... people not looking for degree dy... its like pre-U in my dad's time...lol!
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post Jan 8 2009, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(n_n @ Jan 8 2009, 01:57 PM)
yeap... in this world now... people not looking for degree dy... its like pre-U in my dad's time...lol!
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yeah. my dad once said during his age, if anyone holds a diploma, it is as if holding a Masters qualification in the present time haha.
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post Jan 8 2009, 02:23 PM

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what to do...upgrades are everywhere~ hahaha
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post Jan 8 2009, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 8 2009, 01:20 PM)
i didnt know got lecturer without phd 1..but wif phd is 6k?? not bad.. starting salary 6k d?? i oso wanna be lectuer like dat
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haha.. MMU got lots.. with PhD each faculty use 2 hands can count finish..
not sure if is starting pay or not.. but i hear mmu lack lots of lecturer PhD wise..
from what i hear lecturers with PhD are offered 10k a month.. or maybe that was what some1 thought and it passed down from 1 person to another n into my ears.. haha
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post Jan 8 2009, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(EvanSoon @ Jan 8 2009, 05:51 PM)
haha.. MMU got lots.. with PhD each faculty use 2 hands can count finish..
not sure if is starting pay or not.. but i hear mmu lack lots of lecturer PhD wise..
from what i hear lecturers with PhD are offered 10k a month.. or maybe that was what some1 thought and it passed down from 1 person to another n into my ears.. haha
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Man, thts a lot. 10k. But have to spend so much money till get PhD.

Btw, who graduated from biomed course adi n currently employed by a company? smile.gif

Anyone? smile.gif
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post Jan 8 2009, 08:00 PM

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i think 10k is bluff 1 la.. sure like work 20+ yrs then get promoted and increment only 10k..come out fresh phd where got so much? sure only 3 or 4k only ma
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post Jan 9 2009, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(f4tE @ Jan 8 2009, 08:00 PM)
i think 10k is bluff 1 la.. sure like work 20+ yrs then get promoted and increment only 10k..come out fresh phd where got so much? sure only 3 or 4k only ma
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3-4k too little.. my mom just finished her masters in educational psychology and b4 she finished she was teaching in colleges for 3k++.. n she got offered by Inti genting to teach there for 3500 + 1000 food and 250 rent coverage with her degree..


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post Jan 9 2009, 01:31 AM

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Education industry gives a good deal after all. cool2.gif
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post Jan 9 2009, 10:47 AM

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well, if you want to do research you can do it part time while lecturing mah...

win win situation...=)
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post Jan 9 2009, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(nickyf1ferrari @ Jan 9 2009, 01:31 AM)
Education industry gives a good deal after all.  cool2.gif
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Yeah, true. N might get slightly more holidays compared to those who r working outside. lol

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