One of the terms says if I refused to be transferred to another group companies or to any country, I shall be terminated by the company without prior notice or payment or compensation.

I am not comfortable with this clause as I am not able to relocate for the next 20 years.

How should I negotiate with the hiring manager?

This post has been edited by debbieyss: Aug 5 2011, 07:56 PM

thats standard terms in your co. you can't nego on that unless you are on fixed term contract of employment. But for the co. to put the clause on termination is ridiculous, no heart co.

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Added on August 14, 2011, 4:50 pmFor whatever reason,if you resigned without enough notice you have to pay the co. In your case, your boss can advise the HR to waive the notice, the final decision is from Head HR etc.

What do you mean with " compare with the amount they will require to pay for the law? "

You can't win if you bring it to court....wasting time.

If I were you do the following :
1. Appeal for a waiver, this time send to MD cc to HR
2. if option 1 fails, pay it on installment basis. Whatever you owe them, you need to pay, they wont take your case to court if the amount is small but you have to answer it at "akhirat" (for muslim)




This post has been edited by FarinaRacer: Aug 14 2011, 04:50 PM

Hi everyone,

When your boss come meet you face to face, asking you why you want to resign. What is the best answer to give?

Thanks.

Better offer.

You should at least tell us what is your reasons before you ask for our ideas.

Give whatever reason you like. There is no issue on the reason....bcoz its your right as employee.

ops .. ok guys ..
i got another offer ... but i dont plan to tell my boss i got another offer ... cause i feel is kind of ... i also dont know how to say ... i prefer to not to tell out ...
maybe in the future i might go back to this company again ...

This post has been edited by Kyusuke_FD3S: Aug 20 2011, 10:43 PM

Hi I wanted to ask whether resignation should always be by formal letter? or it is also okay if we send e-mail to our direct superior?

Thank you.

for avoidance of any doubt, formal letter is the best.

Just to check, If my offer letter doesn't state the probation period, and after 6 months I have not received any confirmation letter can I say that I an still under probation when resign? Does verbal conversation legal in the confirmation matter?

You are deem confirm. People like to twist this to their favour. If you resign they will say you are confirm. If the want to terminated you they will say you are still under probation. The problem is employees usually dont bother to take this to labour office. It is easier to just move on.

This post has been edited by faceless: Aug 29 2011, 09:42 AM

There's nothing wrong with saying that you have a better offer. In fact, I feel that it's a suitable reply, since everyone wants to have career advancement, and if another company can offer you that, then that's the truth you should tell.

An industry is usually small, and people talk. Even if you don't divulge on why or where you are going, things have a way of getting around.

I've been through similar experience where I openly say that I'm moving to another company (unless if it's a competitor where you may have to be a bit more discreet) and I've been rehired at one of my old company, and a job offer from another one of my old company.

A formal letter is always the best. I believe you need to either hand in or scan the letter to HR upon notifying your superior anyway, so a letter would work best in this situation.

would you show some hints few days before you officially tender the letter?
I am now in a situation where I try to avoid from hurting my lead and manager as much as possible, I don't want to appear cruel to them. The reason I want to leave is for my personal growth, it has little to do with the relationship with colleagues, and some more my team lead has been good with me all the while.

I have been telling my other colleagues about this, but not my lead and manager yet. I find it hard to tell this to them. Should I hint them before I officially tender the letter?

There is nothing to hide. Just tell it straight

Hi, I've been working for 3 months under probation now. In the contract it states 14 weeks notice if i wish to leave the company. Actually my position now is as a retail officer. It's just a small company with less than 10 ppl working there, each individual holding different position except for a few sales marketing staff. Sometimes I just feel that there's nothing much I can do or learn there. There's not much business everyday. I'm the only person handling the showroom. My colleagues always thought that i'm so free and they always throw for me document typing job or just simple task. It makes me feels like I'm just a helper of everyone or office girl. Cause if I just do whatever stated in my job scope, really nothing much can keep me busy with my daily task. I'm quite free, until my colleague starts throwing part of their job to me. I'm not really learning from them as I just helped a little bit here and there. I don't know if I should treat this as "do more learn more"? Feels like being used by them and learning nothing. Plus, my salary is quite low there. Everyday I'll be sitting in the showroom alone doing my job. I'm not really that close with my colleagues there, not that I can sit with them everyday and talk. But they're nice ppl. My manager has been always motivating me and he seems like put so much hope in me. Now that I'm thinking of leaving this company, I feel so bad and doesn't know what reason to give him to resign?

If he asked me why I wanna leave my current job, is it ok that i tell the truth?
- I'm seeking for more challenges and would like to learn more things from this company (as supply chain exec)
- I can have my own work to do rather than being asked to do others paperwork/document typing?
- I can work in teams rather than working alone?


I'm afraid that he won't let me go and want me to stay longer than 2 weeks. =(

This post has been edited by triniebct: Sep 12 2011, 08:13 PM

Just tell the truth, anyhow he cant hold you longer than your notice period. Serve it and leave with grace. Do it the right way and you'll be fine.

You can just tell him you got a better offer, and not elaborate either. Its your choice....

PS: Good luck on the interview

lol i don't think i can get that company cause they need someone who knows how to read in Mandarin in this customer service position as their headquarter is in Hongkong. Anyway, I got a call from another company. She offered me to this graduate training program around 2k per month. She mention I may get promoted as permanent staff there. Which means, i may become unemployed after the 6 months I don't wanna be unemployed after 6 months, will i? They trained me for 6 months, will they just ignore me after the end of the program? But they had spend 6 months to train me, sure got chance to be permanent staff there with higher salary right? =( aiyo frustrated.. should i take this opportunity to learn? that company really is a good company which provides lots of benefits, but in this program, benefits are those i mentioned above only.

** One more quest. If i accept this graduate training programme, how should I tell my manager that I wish to resign? Should I discuss with him first or at least let him know before I give him resign letter? Or straight give the letter to HR dept / manager??

This post has been edited by triniebct: Sep 7 2011, 09:37 PM

If already resigned and employer already agreed to offset the notice period with annual leaves. However the employer want to hold the last two months salary until x months later. Please help.

What type oc company would hold employee salary.
They have no rights to do that unless you violate the contract..

It is Singaporean & no contract been violated.