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post Jul 29 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(James831 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:30 PM)
i have a similar problem too, i have submit 2 months notice to my boss and my last day is 29 July.
in previous stock check ,they found a few item missing, so just today he phone me and ask me to work 1 more month to help up do another stock checking.
my boss say if the problem not settle, i might not get my final month salary .
so should i stay for another month or work till 29 July only?
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Tell your boss that you have done what is required of your contractual obligation. He should fulfill the company's part of the contractual obligation and not resort to threat which is illeagal.

I will not stay another month. Your boss may pull another trick on you to keep you in. If you can stay for another month (no need to start new job), then negotiate for extra allowance. It seems like the company is desparate for manpower.
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post Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM

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You already serve notice so leave. If they dont pay report them.
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(G@rfield @ Jul 16 2010, 11:56 PM)
My fren just started work in a small audit firm for 2mths. At the 2nd mth of probation period her boss told her that her performance very bad and want her to leave.

Her boss said will give 1 mth notice period but during that 1 mth my fren sure will take leave and go for other new job interview. So, he gave my fren a so called "mutual agreement" and release my fren on the spot without any extra payment.
Is it a proper procedure to sack my fren like that?
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Notice was serve accordingly. You friend accepted the notice without protest. It is by the book.

If the company wanted the employee to leave early, they can waive the notice period. That means they must pay the salary while the employed is not required to report for work. Companies do this because they are afraid the terminated employee can sabotage the company. They dont mind paying the "gaji-buta" for peace of mind. Since there is a "mutual agreement", it saves the company the trouble of waiving the notice.
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post Aug 3 2010, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(lunar sea @ Aug 3 2010, 12:00 PM)
replied from hr regarding short notice : upon manager approval
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The company can waive the notice period (meaning leave early without paying). In this case, your manager will has the authority for such waiver.

QUOTE(lunar sea @ Aug 3 2010, 12:00 PM)
replies from manager : cant promise i can leave this week, need to discuss with my team lead.
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Manager seems like a fair person since he is willing to waive the notice period. He just need to check with your lead if you can be released early.

QUOTE(lunar sea @ Aug 3 2010, 12:00 PM)
i will need to join new company on 9th August.
In this case, what will happen if my manager does not approve for short notice even if i will compensate the rest of notice period ?
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If you pay in lieu of notice (buy the notice period), they cant keep you.

QUOTE(lunar sea @ Aug 3 2010, 12:00 PM)
Manager doesnt happy and said my act was being unprofessional.
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I think you have dissapointed your manager. Try to make up for it. He seems fair to me. Try to work out with your lead and manager how to ensure you can cover the workload to leave by 9 Aug.

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post Aug 3 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Gormaz @ Aug 3 2010, 12:41 PM)
As far as I know, if your boss does not approve, HR cannot process resignation already.

Is there a mention in your contract that you can officially buy over the resignation period?
I know most companies accept this (again, on manager approval) but if it's not in your contract you are pretty much screwed if managed does not agree to it
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Hey we dont live in the time of slaves. Employment contract canot bind you forever.
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post Aug 3 2010, 04:42 PM

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That is my point. Lunar's manager seems like a fair guy. I think she can talk her way out.
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post Aug 4 2010, 09:09 AM

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If sweet talk fails then pay in lieu of notice. I stress again that you cant be bound to the company forever. Since you sought help from forummers, I was expecting you to sweet talk the matter because you have many people here to give you ideas. If you are able to do that, I am sure you new employer will be impress because you help them save money. My advise is forget your manager is an assh*** (you are leaving anyway) and put on your best charm to reason with her.
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post Aug 4 2010, 02:44 PM

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There are only a few thing that are term as EL. 1) Matrimony 2) Death of immediate family (Compassion) 3) House destroyed by fire or flood 4) Matrenity or parternity. Probably there are a few more case that I forgotten. Anything else will be deducted form AL or unpaid leave if AL had been exhausted. Yes you have to pay in lieu of notice unless you talk them to waive off the notice.
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post Aug 6 2010, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(jordi79 @ Aug 6 2010, 03:31 AM)
Is there such a thing? In my previous working exp. the HR must accept your resignation, and the notice period starts from HR receiving your resignation. That is why, when I tender resignation, I always cc a copy to HR.

As for "buying out" notice, not all companies accept your notice being bought out. This is subjected your current employing company. As for leaves, sometimes, company may not even let you deduct your leaves. they pay you instead. this is normally done if you are stuck in some important project, and cannot be let off.
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I agree but this is not a one sided contract where the employer get all the say. You have rights to decline it.
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post Aug 9 2010, 10:09 AM

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Marvin,
Just serve notice. There is no need to cite reason. Para1 - I wish to resign wef dd/mm/yy. Para2 - Thank you for your support... You can state reason verbally but not written.

If you tell us a point or two, we can help you say it in a more diplomatic manner.
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post Aug 10 2010, 08:51 AM

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I never heard of this case. I believe the 20 AL will most likely be burnt. I would not pay for it if I am the new company.
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post Aug 10 2010, 10:49 AM

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It depends on the rapport. If your friend is on good terms with the boss, notice period may even be waive (nobody needto pay in lieu of notice). If they want to be picky then it is by the book. Either way (the two cases that you mentioned) serve no advantage to the current company.
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post Aug 11 2010, 09:54 AM

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People usually do not include Al in the resignation letter. As you already mentioned, this is taken up when you fill the form to apply leave. I seen people submit letter with leave form attached. Most peole dont do it in case they need to take EL.
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post Aug 16 2010, 10:52 AM

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Resignation date is the last day of work base on the notice period required. The actual last day may be earlier when offset against AL accumulated.
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post Sep 1 2010, 09:27 AM

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Assume that notice is given on 1 November 2010. Three months from that date is 31 Jan 2011.

Annual leave earned for 2010 is 25 days.
Annual leave earned for 2011 is 2 days (25 days X 31 days worked/365 days a year).
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It is correct, Francis.

I still prefer to use "I hereby serve notice for resignation with immediate effect".
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QUOTE(toxicure @ Sep 30 2010, 09:32 PM)
Hi all, I'm asking for a friend. She's been working for 3months + already. The company actually states that her probation period would be 3 months. Currently, she has not received any written notification whatsoever about her confirmation yet.

Now the question is, if she wants to resign now, can she make it a 7 day notice period just like before confirmation? common sense says that she can but is it considered legal?

can the company suddenly decide to pop in the confirmation letter when she puts down the resignation letter? What happens then?
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Yes, then can do it and back date it too. Just hand in notice assuming she is not confirm and see what is their next move.
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:48 AM

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Why do you want to ruin your character? Sending back dated notice is dishonesty. Just because there are snatch thief every where do you also join them to become a snatch thief?

If you want to leave early you have to pay in lieu of notice. You may use unpaid salary and OT claims to offset payments.

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post Oct 18 2010, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(cruel_boy @ Oct 16 2010, 09:57 AM)
need advice.

my bos asked me to write a resignation letter and leave immediately, coz i took 2 weeks of unpaid leave without informing him. agreement says i need  to submit 30 days of notice, but my boss ask me to leave immediately.

do i have a stand on this matter? can i insist tht i have the rights to work for another 30days and get paid before i leave the company?
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Your boss is firing you. It just that he is the type that prefers people resign on thier own accord.

He can fire you because of the uninforemd leave incident. He ask you to resign so that there is no bad record for you. Just do it! You are in no position to bargain. If you force his hand he will have no choice but to fire you.

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post Oct 18 2010, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(lovebattery @ Oct 18 2010, 11:07 AM)
hi there,

hope to get some opinion about this:

my employer have received my resignation. however instead of serving the obligatory 3 months notice period, i only can only managed to serve only 2 of 3 months required. Therefore my employer asked me to pay for the remaining month i owed the company.

my questions are:

a. can i ask for a waiver on this? i've had good track record, fulfilled all my KPIs & no disciplinary action against me.
b. if waiver is an option, can you give me a sample letter of a kind?

c. if waiver is not possible, any advice on how to at least reduce the amount i have to pay?

really appreciate your help.
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It looks like you are in good talking terms with the boss. This are petty issue they boss will let you off they hook if you talk nice. Dont bother to put it in writing. It may back fire.

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