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post Mar 31 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 31 2010, 07:27 PM)
a question about movements. if a watch comes with a standard unmodified ETA-2824 (for example), can we go to any shop here in malaysia to service or repair our watch?

what if it comes with a modified and decorated movement? for example, Doxa SUB1000T. What is a decorated movement anyway? Can I go to any shop for a repair or to service it?
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ETA 2824 is pretty common movement, most of the qualified watchmaker is able to service it and plenty of parts are available.
Depends on the level of modification, some manufacturer will upgrade some parts to a better quality ones and some will put in blue screw, engrave or design the rotor, etc.

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post Mar 31 2010, 09:06 PM

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lume war, doxa vs ball http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=205358
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post Mar 31 2010, 10:04 PM

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100 pages people! We've come a long way in poisoning, sharing, discussing, asking, !!


Added on March 31, 2010, 10:08 pm
QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 31 2010, 09:06 PM)
interesting debate....

i think lume war shouldnt be generalised but categorised..

what shines brightest may not be the longest,
or what shine the longest may not be the brightest...

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post Mar 31 2010, 10:31 PM

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i'm trying my best not to dip my hands in my house-deposit fund

this forum really got me tempted haha

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post Mar 31 2010, 10:33 PM

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true...100 pages..this thread suddenly increases so much in a very short time frame smile.gif
Btw guys..i was googling around WataTime and Watchshoppe customer reviews...so far nothing much about these shops.

Which one i should go for?
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maybe we should start v2 with the front page all the owner watch pictures tongue.gif
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post Mar 31 2010, 11:29 PM

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malu la... i have only a citizen cheapcheap
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post Mar 31 2010, 11:51 PM

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nvm la i even worst only own a fashion emporio watch >.<
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post Apr 1 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 30 2010, 10:05 AM)
IWC.... not sure if much Mod going on in the movement, if its finishing ya.. alot of effort is put into finishing the movement. more Mod is done on those 7750 base Pammy than IWC will be my take.  perhaps with time IWC may fit it with their new inhouse Caliber 89360
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you can read up more about IWC's modifications on their movements here. as ebauches are not supplied anymore, its said that ETA built the movements to IWC specifications.



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post Apr 1 2010, 12:41 AM

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Hi guys. can anyone recommend where to restore/ service/ polish a vintage watch.

I have a 1962 Omega watch with a crack on the plastic crystal and need to do some servicing.

Thanks
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post Apr 1 2010, 12:44 AM

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What do you guys think about this watch model?

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post Apr 1 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 31 2010, 09:06 PM)
Doxa is getting alot of TV exposure here in the USA.
Guy Fieri a TV host and chef has been spotted wearing DOXA SUB 750T GMT alot
http://guyfieri.com/doxa_sub_watch.html
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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 1 2010, 12:26 AM)
you can read up more about IWC's modifications on their movements here. as ebauches are not supplied anymore, its said that ETA built the movements to IWC specifications.
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with that, IWC is simply casing the watch for this model..


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Hi guys, I'm thinking of letting go of my Ball Aviator 46mm with S/Steel bracelet which I bought only in mid Jan 2010. Pristine condition and hardly worn.

Anyone interested to find out more can check under:
Trade Zone -> LYN Street Mart -> Hobbies & Collectibles

Or simply PM me smile.gif

Cheers!


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QUOTE(khopl @ Apr 1 2010, 11:07 AM)
Hi guys,  I'm thinking of letting go of my Ball Aviator 46mm with S/Steel bracelet which I bought only in mid Jan 2010. Pristine condition and hardly worn.

Anyone interested to find out more can check under:
Trade Zone -> LYN Street Mart -> Hobbies & Collectibles

Or simply PM me  smile.gif

Cheers!
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Haha so fast want to flip, found new target?
Post in MWF also la biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ck77 @ Apr 1 2010, 11:47 AM)
Haha so fast want to flip, found new target?
Post in MWF also la  biggrin.gif
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Yup flipping...just itching for the steinhart NavB Chrono 47mm drool.gif
i tried registering at MWF but i think there is something wrong with their website as I am unable to receive any confirmation after registering.... hmm.gif

BTW, what do you guys think of the Steinhart Nav-B Chrono??

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Mar 30 2010, 09:22 AM)
Nice ML  thumbup.gif
My choice on the above would be PO, co-axial movement which need service only in 8-10 years of constant wearing  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Mar 30 2010, 09:23 AM)
well... shock protection does not protect against such drop lah.. at most it a drop at waist level on oak floor, not teak.
Drop a Rolex and U may find the same thing happening! heck.. even Rolex's famous steel do rust!

BR3-51 - US$5K (very likely ETA 2893 but according to their website its adjusted to 4 position guess its Elaboré grade but they do more regulating)
IWC Portuguese Chronograph - US$6.8K on caliber 79350 (mod 7750)
Omega PO - ~US$3.9k

my vote goes to Omega for $$, value, design.. if $$ not of concern... IWC

IWC resale value not that great... preown sold for ~SGD$5K.
http://www.visiotime.com/index.php?page=Pr...tDetail&id=3735
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patryn33, You know your prices and movements very well.


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QUOTE(Jason @ Mar 30 2010, 09:51 AM)
B&R is a fashion watch with a nicely engineered case. more of a watch assembler than watchmaker, no value to me.
IWC - i love it, lots of work done on the movement, timeless and classic design and not as common
Omega - superb value for money, but then again, its rather common.

1. IWC 2.Omega 3.Not B&R, rather get something else like a Nomos.

that being said these 3 are very far from each other in the sense that.. Omega is a diver, IWC a dress watch, B&R a tool watch
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Yes, agree - all of these watches are very different and speak to me in different ways, but I enjoy them all the same.


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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 30 2010, 02:42 PM)
omega for me too... tongue.gif
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Thanks for all the feedback. Looks like you guys prefer Omega. But like Jason said, it's rather common and also agree that the B&R watch is a "fashion" type watch, but apparently these kinds of watches are getting a lot of attention in the watch connoisseurs world (Cartier, Hublot, Franck Mueller). In fact, a lot of watches are just cases assembled with modified ETA movements - difficult to find one that isn't, even from the so called watch makers, you need to spend 5x the base model price to get an in-house movement.

Isn't the Omega Co-Axial an ETA movement manufactured by it's parent company?






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for those who have purchased or surveyed ML prices.. i know they have very deep discounts.. typically how many % in KL?
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Added on April 1, 2010, 6:44 pm
Thanks for all the feedback.  Looks like you guys prefer Omega.  But like Jason said, it's rather common and also agree that the B&R watch is a "fashion" type watch, but apparently these kinds of watches are getting a lot of attention in the watch connoisseurs world (Cartier, Hublot, Franck Mueller).  In fact, a lot of watches are just cases assembled with modified ETA movements - difficult to find one that isn't, even from the so called watch makers, you need to spend 5x the base model price to get an in-house movement.

Isn't the Omega Co-Axial an ETA movement manufactured by it's parent company?
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Omega movement isn't base on the regular ETA 2824 or 2892.
Ya they do leverage on the manufacturing facilities to make their movement. As of today, they are the only company getting those Co-axial movement.

u don't have to spend 5X the base price of a B&R to get a inhouse movement. B&R prices at US$4k could get U a inhouse movement already.
even Cartier uses ETA for their entry level watches.

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You can expect between 25-32++ discounts. 32+ is pushing it, but they do provide.

I've already settled on one ML, but will get it around June/July time frame. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 1 2010, 11:23 PM)
for those who have purchased or surveyed ML prices.. i know they have very deep discounts.. typically how many % in KL?
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Apr 2 2010, 08:19 AM)
Omega movement isn't base on the regular ETA 2824 or 2892.
Ya they do leverage on the manufacturing facilities to make their movement. As of today, they are the only company getting those Co-axial movement.

u don't have to spend 5X the base price of a B&R to get a inhouse movement. B&R prices at US$4k could get U a inhouse movement already.
even Cartier uses ETA for their entry level watches.
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technically you could say that Omega movements are in-house.

and yes.. for less than the price of the B&R you can get very very good in-house movements, Nomos is one great example.
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the nomos tangomat, full in house automatic movement, way more sophistication and substance than a B&R any day. but it requires a person with exquisite taste and appreciates the finer details in life to enjoy it. for majority of the population, show is more important than go, style over substance. who cares if the inside of a B&R is exactly the same as a Tissot and costs 10x more? not like you can see the movement or tell the difference.



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