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post Apr 2 2010, 03:34 PM

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hehe i got this azimuth pvd-black sp-1 mecanique

whole BLACK series and 02X/200

i love this watch very much and is very very nice! ^^user posted image

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post Apr 2 2010, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 1 2010, 11:23 PM)
for those who have purchased or surveyed ML prices.. i know they have very deep discounts.. typically how many % in KL?
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Depending on the model, I'd say 30%+ is reasonable.

The list for my model was RM 18k, but I was able to get it for around RM 12k, so that's 33%


Added on April 2, 2010, 6:05 pm
QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 2 2010, 12:46 PM)
technically you could say that Omega movements are in-house.

and yes.. for less than the price of the B&R you can get very very good in-house movements, Nomos is one great example.

the nomos tangomat, full in house automatic movement, way more sophistication and substance than a B&R any day. but it requires a person with exquisite taste and appreciates the finer details in life to enjoy it. for majority of the population, show is more important than go, style over substance. who cares if the inside of a B&R is exactly the same as a Tissot and costs 10x more? not like you can see the movement or tell the difference.
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Funny thing about Nomos is, up until recently they were using ETA movements as well, and the reverse is true for BR, who used German movements produced by Sinn before moving exclusively to ETA. I actually did not know until recently that Nomos transitioned to in-house movements and are getting quite good at it. I think they are a brand to keep an eye on and will gain more attention as time goes on.


I had a Seiko watch that also used an in-house movement. Fraction of the price of the Nomos. Perhaps you cannot compare the two, but that is the beautiful nature of watches. That is why there will be people for all markets, including someone like myself who is comfortable buying a "fashion" watch.

My Seiko 7S35 Automatic - was stolen when I arrived in Malaysia. For less than RM 700 - this is one of the best watches I've owned.

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post Apr 2 2010, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Apr 2 2010, 05:20 PM)

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may i know what model number is this?
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post Apr 2 2010, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(CHiNO730 @ Apr 2 2010, 05:20 PM)
Funny thing about Nomos is, up until recently they were using ETA movements as well, and the reverse is true for BR, who used German movements produced by Sinn before moving exclusively to ETA.  I actually did not know until recently that Nomos transitioned to in-house movements and are getting quite good at it. I think they are a brand to keep an eye on and will gain more attention as time goes on.   
I had a Seiko watch that also used an in-house movement.  Fraction of the price of the Nomos.  Perhaps you cannot compare the two, but that is the beautiful nature of watches.  That is why there will be people for all markets, including someone like myself who is comfortable buying a "fashion" watch. 
Not too recent though..
until 2005 it is based on Peseux 7001. Panerai also intro their 1st inhouse movement in the yr Nomos goes full inhouse.
well.... BR is using rebrand Sinn, and Sinn was made by Guinand which use ETA movement. No German made movement as far as I could remember.

Japanese/Russian do make their own movement for a fraction of the cost. for 4K can get a nice Grand Seiko or those Seiko Spring Drive. not really "fashion".
B&R is really cool looking, more masculine than those watches in a inhouse movement.
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I have to agree there are always ppl out there that look for a premium "fashion" watch, that how they make money! nothing wrong with that.

No one in Asia look at Louis Moinet pr Perrelet below. For LM I think all inhouse and limited edition to under 100 pcs and most expensive pcs is like CHF1Million. design very non traditional.
http://lmtime.com/watches/datoscope.php
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dress watches U can easily find brands such as RGM, Zenith Class Elite, Frederique Constant using an inhouse movement recent. Frederique Constant;s 1st inhouse movement on a few watch. they do start under US$4K. Those Vulcain watches (many US president get those on their inauguration) with Alarm also using their inhouse movement.
JeanRichard also offering their JR1000 movement on many watches, after discount I think is under US$4K too.
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Added on April 3, 2010, 1:12 am
QUOTE(beguiler @ Apr 2 2010, 03:34 PM)
hehe i got this azimuth pvd-black sp-1 mecanique

whole BLACK series and 02X/200

i love this watch very much and is very very nice! ^^user posted image
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where did U get it from? care to share? Any more pics on the watch?

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post Apr 3 2010, 02:15 AM

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The spaceship's photo looks like it has been cropped from a website blink.gif www.collectorstime.com it is. Btw, for those who are interested in the watch, HT in ss2 is selling it and you'll get a good bargain. Seiko do manufacture fine watches, but too bad I gave up on them as some of the original parts are not in production anymore and I felt its a waste of money to get them replaced by non-genuine parts. Its just me, I want everything in original condition.

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post Apr 3 2010, 06:55 PM

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what do you guys think of limited production watches? furthermore those that are only sold online and no AD in malaysia? specifically, doxa. huh? worth buying?
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post Apr 3 2010, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Apr 3 2010, 06:55 PM)
what do you guys think of limited production watches? furthermore those that are only sold online and no AD in malaysia? specifically, doxa. huh? worth buying?
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if U want to sell it locally, maybe poor resale value.
selling online to other markets generally better.
DOXA is famous for their orange sub.. Me personally... Its WORTH it.

BTW: U up your budget?

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post Apr 3 2010, 07:23 PM

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planning to get the marathon, but just can't stop thinking of the doxa. the 800Ti really makes my nose spewing blood. but the price is the same as omega SMP.
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post Apr 3 2010, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Apr 3 2010, 07:23 PM)
planning to get the marathon, but just can't stop thinking of the doxa. the 800Ti really makes my nose spewing blood. but the price is the same as omega SMP.
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US$700 vs US$2700.. just get what your budget allows for now or save up!
then its Omega vs Doxa. Doxa is rated at 800Ft or ~242m
I like the Doxa 5000T better.. higher grade movement 2892, rated at 5000ft or 1524m. priced at US$2K better deal.

anyway.. Marathon do have watches made to MIL-PRF-46374G spec. not sure whats in it.. I guess its anti magnetic, corrosion and water resistance to 3ATM?

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what are the problems we might face in future if we buy watches like doxa? i mean, limited production, altho the movement is the common ETA, no local AD, etc?
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post Apr 3 2010, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Apr 3 2010, 07:45 PM)
what are the problems we might face in future if we buy watches like doxa? i mean, limited production, altho the movement is the common ETA, no local AD, etc?
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I don't see a problem... unless u are talking case broke. rubber gasket pretty standard can replace easily. within the warranty period, generally if U don't see problems in the 1st 1mth U will not find any until the 4 or 5th yr when its time to get it clean and oil.
common ETA movement, any reputable watchmaker can do the job. plenty of parts around too.
only problem is finding a watchmaker U can trust.
U maybe able to go to AD authorize service centre (for other brands such as Oris) to get the job done. some brands contract it out to private company to do the job. Swiss Prestige or GMT TIME maybe that kind. usually that means it will cost more to get it done right with a peace of mind.

Swiss Prestige Sdn Bhd
Wisma UOA II, Suite 11-07, 21, Jalan Pinang
MY 50450 Kuala Lumpur

GMT TIME SPECIALIST SERVICE CENTRE
NO. 2 MEZZANINE FLOOR
JALAN PERDANA 6/8, PANDAN PERDANA
55300 KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA

living else where.. this is in Selangor, looks decent.
http://www.tscservice.my/index.php?option=...id=14&Itemid=21

I almost forgot... here are some reviews on DOXA
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2005_06...2005_06_152.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2007_05...2007_05_066.pdf

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post Apr 4 2010, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(FeeD @ Apr 2 2010, 06:58 PM)
may i know what model number is this?
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Seiko SNM007K1

I bought it from roachman.com and flew into Penang to pick it up (not just for watch of course =)

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post Apr 4 2010, 07:29 PM

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thanks patryn for the links. really love the comparison between various divers.
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hi guys,

phew finally,
Guess what, i'll let the pics talk biggrin.gif
add extra poison for those wish to get Tag cool2.gif
Enjoy!

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ohh yeah tag going to increase on 15/4 too~
So tempted to get the grand carrera with carbon fibre sweat.gif thank god was control by my fren
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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Apr 4 2010, 11:13 PM)
hi guys,

phew finally,
Guess what, i'll let the pics talk  biggrin.gif
add extra poison for those wish to get Tag  cool2.gif

ohh yeah tag going to increase on 15/4 too~
So tempted to get the grand carrera with carbon fibre  sweat.gif thank god was control by my fren
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U just reminded me to check on the LVMH friends and Family sale that may start sometime this month. prices are usually 50% off retail with factory warranty.
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post Apr 4 2010, 11:37 PM

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ohh patryn33
Not this time~~ better dont let me know else im going to faint~
Still happy with my loot!
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post Apr 5 2010, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Apr 4 2010, 07:29 PM)
thanks patryn for the links. really love the comparison between various divers.
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diver watch lover.. here are more reviews
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2005_01...2005_01_070.pdf
http://www.watchtime.at/archive/wt_2002_04...ers_watches.pdf


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the more i read, the more i tend to lean towards those small brands like halios, helson, doxa, deep blue.... looks like the the movements used are mostly miyota 8215 vs eta 2824. hmm....
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post Apr 5 2010, 03:54 AM

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for those looking for a auto PVD Tritium lights diver watch (500m) on Sellita SW200-1. (scratch and dent sale)
priced at UK$279 or RM$1377. shipping was UK$10.

http://www.christopherward.co.uk/nearly-ne.../nnc600ipk.html
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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Apr 5 2010, 12:46 AM)
the more i read, the more i tend to lean towards those small brands like halios, helson, doxa, deep blue.... looks like the the movements used are mostly miyota 8215 vs eta 2824. hmm....
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halios maybe like deep blue using swiss/jap movement but had it made in Hong Kong/China. some ppl don't like it as QC not as strict as Swiss.
getting a helson would be kinda owning another citizen isn't it? just case is different.

nice article on 2824 vs 8215
http://www.17jewel.com/two.html
http://forums.watchuseek.com/showthread.php?t=275740


Added on April 5, 2010, 9:17 am
QUOTE(beguiler @ Apr 2 2010, 03:34 PM)
hehe i got this azimuth pvd-black sp-1 mecanique

whole BLACK series and 02X/200

i love this watch very much and is very very nice! ^^
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I just found this out on this brand.
http://www.1888pressrelease.com/azimuth-re...-pr-152339.html
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Azimuth, the brainchild of two Singaporean watch enthusiasts – Christopher Long and Alvin Lye - is one-of-a-kind end-to-end luxury watch manufacturer. It manages the entire mechanical timepiece production from research and development and manufacturing, to retailing, distribution and delivery worldwide. Azimuth is now shaking up the horological world with its avant-garde designs for luxury timepieces. Azimuth watches sport a variety of styles, from race car instrument panels to vintage military watch designs.

Azimuth’s four foundational pillars that guide its watchmaking philosophy are: avant-garde designs, mechanical complications, Swiss-made quality and competitive pricing. As of June 2009, Azimuth established its atelier in Bienne, Switzerland, to research, model and assemble its watches.


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QUOTE(terencetoo @ Apr 4 2010, 11:13 PM)
hi guys,

phew finally,
Guess what, i'll let the pics talk  biggrin.gif
add extra poison for those wish to get Tag  cool2.gif
Enjoy!


ohh yeah tag going to increase on 15/4 too~
So tempted to get the grand carrera with carbon fibre  sweat.gif thank god was control by my fren
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not a big fan on Tag, although I know it's very popular here - but this one looks beautiful.
actually, owning a Tag was my dream back in college - it was my brand of choice, but I never got around to owning one.



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