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 Chery MPV, Any thoughts on this car/MPV?

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elru
post Oct 20 2008, 11:00 AM

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i have no respect for china's car. they only know how to copy and paste, then produce rojak. their cars bear no identity, no fixed design cue.
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post Oct 20 2008, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 20 2008, 11:00 AM)
i have no respect for china's car. they only know how to copy and paste, then produce rojak. their cars bear no identity, no fixed design cue.
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you are right

everyone copies everyone else

these are the same comments the white people used to describe Toyota and Honda last time

even Proton and Perodua have certain models rebadged

BUT the price is also fair for a China made copy and paste car with no identity and no design cue

- i think the price is extremely fair at RM 80,000 approx for Chery 2.4

BTW
Chery is the largest independent car maker in China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chery_Automobile


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post Oct 20 2008, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(zaizu @ Oct 20 2008, 11:22 AM)
you are right

everyone copies everyone else

these are the same comments the white people used to describe Totota and Honda last time

even Proton and Perodua have certain models rebadged

BUT the price is also fair for a copy and paste car with no identity and no design cue

- i think the price is extremely fair at RM 80,000 approx for Chery 2.4
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copy and inspiration are 2 different things as one may be inspired from its competitor's design and produces something similar. rebadge is also ok because its part of the marketing strategy.

as for china, 80% copy and 20% degraded it. try google it, and you will see fake version of mercedes, crv, rolls royce, terios, x5... and they have no imagination for their own original designs.

i dun mind paying cheap price for many china goods. but for cars, well, you pay what you get, good luck wink.gif
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post Oct 20 2008, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
i dun mind paying cheap price for many china goods. but for cars, well, you pay what you get, good luck wink.gif
Dude, I think like you before I saw and test drive the car. The test drive was awesome with 7 persons inside.

For what I'm paying, I'm getting:

1. Nice elegant look, esp the rear.
2. Good features you can only find in higher price MPV: airbags, ABS, EBD, Steptronic (auto & manual transmission), Mitsubishi 2.4L engine, 16" allow wheel. thumbup.gif
3. Good petrol consumption from the feedbacks here, RM100 for 450km.
4. Sleeker than Serena/Avanza/Innova but roomier than Grand Livina/Rush. Sits 7 people comfortably.
5. Auto adjust air-con with blowers on last 2 rows.
6. 3 years warranty and 1 year free service. Use Mitsubishi spare parts.

RM80k now, mana boleh dapat from other brands?

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post Oct 20 2008, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(surehit @ Oct 20 2008, 11:57 AM)
Dude, I think like you before I saw and test drive the car. The test drive was awesome with 7 persons inside.

For what I'm paying, I'm getting:

1. Nice elegant look, esp the rear.
2. Good features you can only find in higher price MPV: airbags, ABS, EBD, Steptronic (auto & manual transmission), Mitsubishi 2.4L engine, 16" allow wheel.  thumbup.gif
3. Good petrol consumption from the feedbacks here, RM100 for 450km.
4. Sleeker than Serena/Avanza/Innova but roomier than Grand Livina/Rush. Sits 7 people comfortably.
5. Auto adjust air-con with blowers on last 2 rows.
6. 3 years warranty and 1 year free service. Use Mitsubishi spare parts.

RM80k now, mana boleh dapat from other brands?

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wow, thats pretty good fuel consumption for 2.4. well, i suppose they get this one rite then. thanks wink.gif
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post Oct 20 2008, 12:16 PM

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I sold my waja 2003 ( M ) at RM 26000 ....last month .....cash buyer .....with 3 kids and a maid u sure need an mpv....

To all Malaysians that are sceptical about chery MPV ....let it be.....for me and the rest of chery user ....we are happy with our choice.....as long as my family happy ....and my pocket also happy .....

At Kapar they trade in our std rim at RM 900 with tyre for a selected 18 inch rim ....gosh ......insane to change 18inch .....!!!! Hope they will design our bodykit soon.....lets pray ...


Added on October 20, 2008, 12:19 pmyes....China too good in " copy it right " !!!! but i like it .....

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post Oct 20 2008, 12:20 PM

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I saw one OTR yesterday. it looks sleek from the back. Better than a Wish, I reckon.

Front design isn't everybody's cup of tea, looks kinda awkward but the lights that shoots out from the headlamps is... wub.gif

This car deserves a chance.

BTW, what is "dual tone horns" ? huh.gif Got two types of horns in this car ah? So interesting?
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post Oct 20 2008, 12:24 PM

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What China did now...is too give us M'sian more choices and value for money vehicle...fake handbags / perfumes / watches / toys / all made in China .....but I'm happy .....They make it AFFORDABLE.......


Added on October 20, 2008, 12:31 pmat least the CD/MP3 player have an USB connection ......new Myvi facelift just include it recently ......next purchase to buy sun visor DVD player to distract the kids....he he

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post Oct 20 2008, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(surehit @ Oct 20 2008, 10:49 AM)
Hey Dynasan,

Got you car already? How izzit? Have you change to full leather seats & trims?

Are you sure only RM100 for 450km on a Mitsubishi 2.4 engine? This is fantastic!!  rclxms.gif

Even my Waja makan RM130 for about 500km in the city like you.

Hey what you do with your old Waja, what is the best way to sell it off, newspaper ad?
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no yet-lor...still waiting from the SA to confirm this week. For the leather, I will check the price in Penang, probably will be cheaper.
This MPV will be my weekend car, as most of the time will be driven by my wife....hope she know how to use the tiptronics biggrin.gif ... will be driving my Waja as usual.


Added on October 20, 2008, 1:42 pm
QUOTE(Enigma4646 @ Oct 20 2008, 12:16 PM)
I sold my waja 2003 ( M ) at RM 26000 ....last month .....cash buyer .....with 3 kids and a maid u sure need an mpv....

To all Malaysians that are sceptical about chery MPV ....let it be.....for me and the rest of chery user ....we are happy with our choice.....as long as my family happy ....and my pocket also happy .....

At Kapar they trade in our std rim at RM 900 with tyre for a selected 18 inch rim ....gosh ......insane to change 18inch .....!!!! Hope they will design our bodykit soon.....lets pray ...


Added on October 20, 2008, 12:19 pmyes....China too good in " copy it right " !!!! but i like it .....
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got maid ar....happy-lah, can ask your maid to wash the car everyday...sure very shining one
18 inch....too big-lah....17inch I think it's better. my suggestion is to get those portable DVD player that can be used with the 12V car adaptor... can get those with 12 inch LCD one....now it cost around RM500-700...

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post Oct 20 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(dynasan @ Oct 20 2008, 01:37 PM)
no yet-lor...still waiting from the SA to confirm this week. For the leather, I will check the price in Penang, probably will be cheaper.
This MPV will be my weekend car, as most of the time will be driven by my wife....hope she know how to use the tiptronics  biggrin.gif ... will be driving my Waja as usual.


Added on October 20, 2008, 1:42 pm
got maid ar....happy-lah, can ask your maid to wash the car everyday...sure very shining one
18 inch....too big-lah....17inch I think it's better. my suggestion is to get those portable DVD player that can be used with the 12V car adaptor... can get those with 12 inch LCD one....now it cost around RM500-700...
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got maid also rclxub.gif BTW saw at kedai abang ...DVD sun visor left side come with 7 inch screen and DVD player ....can use 12V socket maa....only RM 290 ......plug and play .....if want cheaper ....go to Jln Pasar KL .....lots of choice ....or buy online thru lelong meh ......

18 inch too large ya........will think about it......... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 20 2008, 02:51 PM

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this is what Proton MPV body is based on.

But sure.. P. MPV eats this for lunch and dinner.. cool2.gif
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post Oct 20 2008, 03:10 PM

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China... plagiarize a bit but a lot cheaper
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post Oct 20 2008, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Oct 20 2008, 02:51 PM)
this is what Proton MPV  body is based on.

But sure.. P. MPV eats this for lunch and dinner.. cool2.gif
Alo man, how in the world can a Campro 1.6 CPS beat a Mitsubishi 2.4L? doh.gif Eat what? Eat wind lar Campro when compare to Chery Mitsubishi engine.

Read this comment from Paul's Tan site:

"now the proton is try to making a mpv which size is same or bigger than a wish
wish(jdm 1.8) is using a 1.8 vvti engine which produce 136ps/17.7kgm
and this car is being said underpower when the car fetch 7 adult go genting
and if you notice , the gear ratio on the car is very big already , no overdrive gear.

how proton going to make his mpv to when up to genting with tat 125hp/15kgm campro cps ???? and wish is weight at 1400++kg
and proton mpv is aspected to be weight at around 1400 kg also (persona is also 1250kg already )
proton have to make a really big effort for boost the torque if not must be a fuel guzzler on the list of proton car .
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post Oct 20 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Oct 20 2008, 02:51 PM)
this is what Proton MPV  body is based on.

But sure.. P. MPV eats this for lunch and dinner.. cool2.gif
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??????

Ploton MPV is based on ???????? hmm.gif

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post Oct 20 2008, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(surehit @ Oct 20 2008, 04:02 PM)
Alo man, how in the world can a Campro 1.6 CPS beat a Mitsubishi 2.4L?  doh.gif  Eat what? Eat wind lar Campro when compare to Chery Mitsubishi engine.

Read this comment from Paul's Tan site:

"now the proton is try to making a mpv which size is same or bigger than a wish
wish(jdm 1.8) is using a 1.8 vvti engine which produce 136ps/17.7kgm
and this car is being said underpower when the car fetch 7 adult go genting
and if you notice , the gear ratio on the car is very big already , no overdrive gear.

how proton going to make his mpv to when up to genting with tat 125hp/15kgm campro cps ???? and wish is weight at 1400++kg
and proton mpv is aspected to be weight at around 1400 kg also (persona is also 1250kg already )
proton have to make a really big effort for boost the torque if not must be a fuel guzzler on the list of proton car .
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it's 1 of the member opinion only ... not paultan himself... plus the info he provided are wrong... wish 1.8 only produce 132PS , not 136PS .. and the weight for 1.8 wish is 1300 kg , not 1400++kg

although i never tried fetching 7 adults , but the power for 1.8 is definitely sufficient for 5 adults , no problem... tested before. smile.gif

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post Oct 20 2008, 05:34 PM

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My Eastar MPV bring along 5 adults 2 kids and 1 toddler so far so good....I think we need to compare Apple to Copyright Apple laa.....he he.....

Ipsum 2.4 / Estima 2.4 / other MPV with 2.4 engine.........whatever it is .....we have more choices to choose what MPV suit our budget and family needs.......

tonite will start my 1st phase DIY .....
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post Oct 20 2008, 08:32 PM

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Is there any professional review out there (from a malaysian magazine) etc....?
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post Oct 20 2008, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(tanos @ Oct 20 2008, 08:32 PM)
Is there any professional review out there (from a malaysian magazine) etc....?
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so far i haven't seen yet ....they now bz in roadshow.......i also waiting .....keep in touch .....


Added on October 21, 2008, 1:58 pm...last night DIY the sticker ......too bad...the std sticker glue not so reliable.....so tonite need to redo .....maybe add some gajah glue.....sighhhhh.....


Added on October 22, 2008, 9:53 amDIY ......the original sticker glue not strong .....gam cap gajah or double sided...tape...

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post Oct 22 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 20 2008, 11:00 AM)
i have no respect for china's car. they only know how to copy and paste, then produce rojak. their cars bear no identity, no fixed design cue.
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haha.. i went to china months ago n surprised so many honda n toyota look-alike.. even bmw and audi look alike aso got..

QUOTE(elru @ Oct 20 2008, 11:45 AM)
copy and inspiration are 2 different things as one may be inspired from its competitor's design and produces something similar. rebadge is also ok because its part of the marketing strategy.

as for china, 80% copy and 20% degraded it. try google it, and you will see fake version of mercedes, crv, rolls royce, terios, x5... and they have no imagination for their own original designs.

i dun mind paying cheap price for many china goods. but for cars, well, you pay what you get, good luck wink.gif
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ya.. copy is u take the other manufacturer's design n claimed its yours without any proper licence.. inspiration is normal in arts esp in designing.. rebadge is ok.. (naza cars like ria n citra is a rebadge is it?) ya.. most china cars they copy only.. so sorry to say but the quality sucks.. coz they are trying to provide something similar in a more affordable way.. haha..

QUOTE(AiRBooM @ Oct 20 2008, 04:40 PM)
it's 1 of the member opinion only ... not paultan himself... plus the info he provided are wrong... wish 1.8 only produce 132PS , not 136PS .. and the weight for 1.8 wish is 1300 kg , not 1400++kg

although i never tried fetching 7 adults , but the power for 1.8 is definitely sufficient for 5 adults , no problem... tested before.  smile.gif
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yeah.. i read that b4.. commentors there memang lidat one.. haha.. but i ride in my friend's wish once.. 7 adults.. me sitting backmost row. very crampy but it moves swiftly..

QUOTE(Enigma4646 @ Oct 20 2008, 05:34 PM)
My Eastar MPV bring along 5 adults 2 kids and 1 toddler so far so good....I think we need to compare Apple to Copyright Apple laa.....he he.....

Ipsum 2.4 / Estima 2.4 / other MPV with 2.4 engine.........whatever it is .....we have more choices to choose what MPV suit our budget and family needs.......

tonite will start my 1st phase DIY .....
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correct.. more choices.. btw, i saw you n your 'enigma' today in shah alam-klang road.. if u realised a silver benz C200 passed by.. WKT XXX.. smile.gif
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china brand? huh . whats the NCAP rating? -3? . save your money but please value your life.

Just test drive the card today and i dont think i will buy this...for the price i think proton MPV is a smarter choice.

We dunno if they put "melamine inside the engine" hahahahaha

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