For my money I'd stay well away from Chinese developed cars. They are produced very cheaply simply because there's very little tech built-in into the car.

Looking at the spec sheet -- if you know what you're reading -- the Cherry doesn't offer anything much. Most of the features are standard items in cars today anyway.

The Eastar might look good on the surface but the truth of the matter is there's no shortcuts in making a car let alone a good car and I fear the Cherry is decidedly very low-tech with tremendous corner cutting done to keep cost and development time amazingly low.

Granted the Eastar has all the standard acronyms of a 21th century vehicle, ABS, EBD, SRS but I really have my doubts. I have strong reason to believe all these technologies are not proven. The systems are there yes but has it been tested in proving grounds like MIRA? I don't think so.

Judging by the many crash test results, very little engineering hours have been spent to ensure the crashworthiness of the car. For me I wouldn't bank my life and my family's life on a vehicle that can and will do more damage in a crash then actually protecting me.

Sorry to burst the owners' bubble and I don't have any intention to flame anyone but from my experience working in the car industry...the Eastar may look cutting-edge in terms of looks but it has its tires well stuck in the 80's in terms of the technology built into the car.

Like someone has mentioned, the Chinese car industry is mainly based on copying other manufacturers and this is true. There's no harm in trying to emulate your competitors and benchmark yourself with the best but the problem with most Chinese manufacturers is they don't know what they are copying. To them, as long as the part looks the same it's good enough. The thing that you have to remember is that the engineering of the part is more important than just how it looks.

Sadly for most in emerging countries, like ours, looks are the first thing that comes into consideration when making a purchase.

true...in most modern countries, the main reason to purchase a car is no.1 look, den brand......or sumtimes the way around....but eventhough you do u have your point, you have to admit, that at the end, its up to ppl judgement whether ppl do accept a change or what...i remember during early 90's, korean cars were so few on the road...look at them now...frickin thick like hair... ...haha..but i duno...given a choice, i rather go for the conventional brand..tralalala..hahaha..

for me.. i think the only appeal of this vehicle is its 2.4 lite mitsu engine... but the looks like... aijo.. cannot la..

lol its rather funny to see not so mitsubishi cars become mitsu. im a mitsu fan also, owned a mitsubishi lancer and my dad used to own a mitsubishi pajero v31. the chery brand mempersiasuikan the mitsubishi brand. i think the real mitsubishi mpv, the mitsubishi grandis deserve the badge, not the chery mpv. its confusing! even i dont take out the ssangyong badge from the rexton and slap a merc badge. no difference between a wira and waja, wanting to be wiralution and wajalution and what not. i dont hate chinese cars, but what u guys are doing are probably like putting a lamborghini badge on a proton, its wrong!

This post has been edited by KeV: Nov 12 2008, 10:56 PM

Dude, i can understand what you mean. But wouldn't it unfair for someone like you to criticize one's opinion?? I believe you have good perception on Mitsubishi cars. It's actually the same concept when one criticizes your choice of Lancer (maybe Civic is a better) or your father;s choice of purchasing Pajero.

I know that to a certain point of view Chinese made cars MAY BE lower quality but everyone has their own perception. By posting such comments I think it would be hurtful. Yea, you may be only pin pointing out but what if you post a topic and the others flame you for buying. In contrast, this does not mean that we have to put in only the positive points.

I do see a lot of Kancil or Wira changing their badge to Mitsubishi cars. But does that give you the right to see them as the lower class group or menyasuikan? In fact, I believe ppl may think that its your post which is immature. Why not just post out the weaknesses of the car?

Peace

im just saying , dont be posers, thats all. regardless of the quality of chinese cars, that was never the question. never be someone you are not. enough said.

theres nothing about immaturity of such post. the immaturity comes from someone who tries to be someone whos not. this is just constructive criticism. im not seeing them as lower class group, but be proud of what you are driving. this is the mentality of most malaysians, kiasu-ness. i drive a proton now and i still leave it as a proton. i've seen ignorant people sticking a mitsubishi badge on a proton satria neo, when it IS a proton to begin with. its pretty much trying to insult ones intelligence by trying to fool people thinking its a mitsubishi, but in fact it is not! i think the badge should be stuck tastefully, much like if a proton satria is fully converted to a mivec hood, sporting mitsubishi cyborg-esque looks or a perodua viva/myvi putting up toyota passo, daihatsu boon bodykits, then its more fitting!

Understood what you mean. So, this can be basically put as different point of view. For your case, you would think that putting a mitsubishi badge on a proton is like undermining the car's image or intelligence.

But to me, I strongly disagree as I would say every one has the right to do so. I would not say that this would change any mentality. In overseas for example, the European countries or global as I mean, many people are also like Malaysian mentality too.

Hence, I guess this is kinda like a chicken and egg debate which I can conclude as each has their own point of view.

Peace

ya lo.. doing self-rebadging is not so appropriate.. but wat to do.. they say 'i pay for this car..'

me too ....this Saturday had appointment for minor operation for my kidney stone treatment ....
so far my chery @ enigma

1) Allignment problem - to the left ....to the left ....just like a song ....hu hu
2) Got rear lights fracture ( dont know who did it ??? )
3) Left side mirror need to change ...or tukar ... it change your face....in Malay....cermin mengejek...ha hah a..


Other than that no issue ....for me my chery so far not giving me any major problem .....

Never mind.....thats the purpose of having a community ....so that the problem can be resolved in a proper channel .....and discussion ....the more the merrier....We Believe In Unity ........

When people bought Chery Eastar, change the seat cover, add some open POD filter, change to sport muffler, then put Mitsubishi badge (due to its Mitsubishi sourced engine), its wrong.

When AMG or Brabus bought a few unit of Merc, tune the engine, add some accesories, then put their own badge, its appropriate?

When Toyota wants to penetrate European and US market, they throw away their 'T' badge and they put 'L' for Lexus. Later followed by 'Acura' badge from Honda and 'Infiniti' badge from Nissan. Its appropriate?

Brand centric is good for marketing people but not very healthy for consumer. We should know Quality when we see one. Not swallowing every car with 'T' badge for example.

Furthermore, there's never any act written to prevent you from changing the badge on your vehicle. You can even put your name as the brand of your car.

When a pretty girl put on her make-up, eye shadow etc... she's not being herself but u can accept that because she's beautiful.
When an ugly or weird-faced girl put on her make-up, try to be pretty, you hate it. Coz she's not pretty. And she looks cheap.
This was your perception.

This post has been edited by watonk: Nov 27 2008, 01:42 AM

sorry but i need to correct some mistakes here.
AMG is an in-house tuning company in mercedes. its not a seperate company like brabus.
they dont need to 'buy' the cars.

u brought up the lexus and infiniti brand.
but deep down the owners of these brands, they know that they are toyota's and nissan's.

but if u stick a mistubishi badge onto a chery,
i dont think u can tell urself, 'hmm this is really a mitsubishi, no doubt about it'.
if u can tell that to yourself, then i think u have a problem.

stick a mitsubishi badge and a founder of cmc chery mpv club
i agree with you, the owner cant tell he drove a chery,thats why he merge a CHERY mpv club. not a mitsubishi club

enigma4646 i want to discuss something, gonna pm u soon

Excuse me...AMG WAS an external entity, but Mercedes has become majority shareholder since 1999.

Lexus and Infinity are totally from Toyota and Nissan, the cars are not even built in on the same line or in the same factory. Even the engineers that work on the cars are seperate. So NO, deep down inside Lexus and Infinity are not Toyota and Nissan.

Having a Mitsu engine in a China car does not automatically make it a Mitsubishi. A lot goes into making a car and the engine is just one of it. Similarly, Zonda run with AMG built engines, that doesn't mean its a Mercedes or an AMG. A1 cars now run Ferrari engines, that does not make it a Ferrari does it?

CAN BOTH OF YOU QUOTE ME chery service center avaiable at SEREMBAN OR KL area? would be grateful if you have time to list it out for me.

Dear Chery owners,

I am trying to buy an MPV and found the Chery is a good buy.
I am skeptical of the quality of the car especially the engine.
I got to know that Chery is using the previous engine of Grandis.
Any comment ?

The saying "Old is Gold" may applies here.
Older technology are generally more reliable.
New technology help in multi tasking, speed, performance, weight reduction and etc

If you notice that newer engines are getting lighter, hence save on fuel
Newer cars are full of electronic control/monitor system, more bang for buck

However if you ask what it takes to fix them in the event of a failure, be prepare to fork out a fortune, take BMW as a sample.
If you said that I am not buying a BMW, well fine go and check out the cost of the ECU in our Waja - you be surprise if you had not heard about it.

Old engines are simple basic engines that even you can fix if you learn about it and because it was build with heavier metal, it is sturdier.
CE is using a PROVEN Mitsu engine, so that heart that it will not fail on you.

If you wanted to save fuel, go get a hybrid/electric/NGV car

Yeah,just like mobile phone,new ok,after awhile looking for service sucks big time.

My goodness,

Who made this thread alive after so long?

For those interested in Chery, see these links:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/825342/+2460

http://cheryeastarclub.blogspot.com/

http://cheryeastarclub.forumotion.com/welc...eastar-club-f1/

After over 125 pages, over 170,000 views, 1 big owner club & 2 forums, plus tons of praises for Chery good service (big service center) & cheap spare parts, you people still shoot your mouths off.

For those who criticize without reading those links above, I can only say one thing: prejudice really blinded you all !!

more information about this MPV just clik here.. come on don't shy
http://cherycommunityclub.motionforum.net
WWW.cherycommunityclub.com

see u there.. bye

wah.... a lot of people buy this car.....I just wish to buy this car but i don't know what is the condition, can anybody tell me ? Is this save petrol, air-con enough cold at the back, got any funny sound eg:door meterboard.....) sound insulation good or not ? How about and market value for 2nd car?