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Playback Guide : Smooth Playback For MKV 720P & 1080P, Enabling Hardware Acceleration for MKV

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TSdemeter	Sep 21 2008, 06:10 PM, updated 15y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Getting Started Junior Member 53 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Johor Bahru	Hi people, I've just bought a htpc to hook up to my sony 40" and at first i was really dissapointed at the mkv 720p and 1080p playback, i almost bought those tvix stand alone players , but luckily there's the internet (thanks to bit-tech.net) here is my set up Proc : AMD X2 5000+ Mobo : Gigabyte GA-MA78GM RAM : Apogee 2 GB running at DDR 800, i put 512 MB for the display OS : Windows XP SP3 First UNINSTALL ALL your codec and download CCCP Please overwrite the original mpc-hc that came with the codec with this one http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-class...cinema-x86-x64/ (CREDIT & THANKS TO FARIZ) the old version is very picky when enabling dxva support Install the codec , just click next untill finish, you dont need to do any changes here. Untick the H.264/AVC Open the Windows Media Player Classic Home Entertainment , It should be at Start - Program - Combined Community Codec Pack - Players - Media Player Classic , Then click options Under Output do what i do Under Playback TICK the "Auto-Load Subtitles" RESTART THE MEDIA PLAYER CLASSIC Load any mkv file that you want and right click , under filters you should see MPC Video Decoder (low merit) then click it, you should see this window poping up, you will see the DXDA mode tick and it's showing that Hardware Accleration is working Then the magic begins, watch your cpu load , here's mine THIS GUIDE IS FOR WINDOWS XP ONLY. VISTA USERS YOU HAVE TO EXPERIMENT WITH EVC, I DONT HAVE VISTA DONT ASK ME.. HARDWARE ACCELERATION ONLY WORKS IF YOU HAVE THOSE ATI HD CARDS , ABOUT NVIDIA I'M NOT SURE WHICH CARD HAS IT. i tested on my 7900 gs and it does not work for reference i have catalyst 8.9 installed and .net 3.5 installed credit goes to the internet. PLEASE POST IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENCE IN YOUR CPU USAGE AND PLAYBACK , THANK YOU , WANTED TO SEE IF IT WORKS FOR EVERYONE WITH HD ENABLE GRAPHIC CARD This post has been edited by fariz: Apr 12 2011, 06:23 AM
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amirsubhi	Sep 21 2008, 06:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
The Power Is IN Your Hand! Senior Member 1,472 posts Joined: Apr 2005 From: SumwHeRe In MaLaYsIa	well..all u need act is media player classic home Cinema...then for vista must change to EVR no need to uninstall..i'm using klite codec pack..yet i;m using dxva to decode my h264...using media player classic HOME Cinema http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/DXVASupport.html here a simple guide on how to enable it under vista 1st..Get Media PLayer Classic Home Cinema, 2nd..Go To View ,then Choose Option,then go to playback...Choose EVR at direct show video 3rd..Go to playback Check/Tick Auto Load Subtitle then..u can have it! see the attachment for screenies Edited for a simple guide for vista This post has been edited by amirsubhi: Sep 21 2008, 07:09 PM Attached thumbnail(s)
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pikacu	Sep 21 2008, 06:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
male tag rosak Senior Member 7,740 posts Joined: Jun 2006 From: Some Yih	nice guide there @40" lcd there any test on 1080i?
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angelic-x	Sep 21 2008, 06:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Not a member Senior Member 644 posts Joined: Dec 2006	OMG, it wont worked for me at X300.. Playing more worst then before.. = ="
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0168257061	Sep 21 2008, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
EimiFukada All Stars 14,242 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: JAVABUS	QUOTE(pikacu @ Sep 21 2008, 07:27 PM) nice guide there @40" lcd there any test on 1080i? interlaced or progressive, ahh ?
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TSdemeter	Sep 21 2008, 06:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
Getting Started Junior Member 53 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Johor Bahru	QUOTE(amirsubhi @ Sep 21 2008, 06:25 PM) well..all u need act is media player classic home Cinema...then for vista must change to EVR no need to uninstall..i'm using klite codec pack..yet i;m using dxva to decode my h264...using media player classic HOME Cinema http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/DXVASupport.html see the attachment for screenies yeah just use those MPC-HC, i made this guide because i saw lots of people complain about their htpc set up.. just wanted to help hehe.. for vista please follow AMIRSUBHI'S guide for Xp just follow mine This post has been edited by demeter: Sep 21 2008, 06:52 PM
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Skylinestar	Sep 21 2008, 09:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Mega Duck All Stars 10,467 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak	7900GS does not have H264 AVC DXVA
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PaiGeWonG	Sep 21 2008, 09:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Getting Started Junior Member 219 posts Joined: Jul 2008	As for mine i just use VLC player it plays all my HD movies as smooth
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RangerRed	Sep 21 2008, 10:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
Look at all my stars!! Moderator 2,083 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Penang	For XP it is simple. Download and register ATIDVCR.DLL Install DOTNET 3.xx Then register evr.dll just incase Then look in MPC under the renderers and you'll see EVR. Added on September 21, 2008, 10:27 pmOr grab CoreAVC, install. Go to the ffdshow video codec settings. Disable codec source for h.264 it will now render in all ur h.264 with CoreAVC. Added on September 21, 2008, 10:28 pmBTW click my blog just to see how powerful is CoreAVC. This post has been edited by RangerRed: Sep 21 2008, 10:28 PM
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lex	Sep 21 2008, 11:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Old Am I? VIP 18,182 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Dagobah	QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 21 2008, 09:01 PM) 7900GS does not have H264 AVC DXVA Most of the 7-series doesn't support it.. Minimum NVIDIA chipset to support that feature is the 8600GT...
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aLWAYStHEsAME	Sep 22 2008, 12:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Casual Junior Member 336 posts Joined: Oct 2007	Nice guide... thanks 4 sharing
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Irishcoffee	Sep 22 2008, 12:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
ilX / Espressivo Senior Member 2,994 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Behind You	klite codec + MPC HC work as well with DXVA
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xpresside	Sep 24 2008, 03:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
Regular Senior Member 1,982 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: TTDI	hmm.........cant get it to work with vista 64 ? nvm lol hav to get tthe 64bit version This post has been edited by xpresside: Sep 24 2008, 03:26 AM
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sonic_cd	Sep 24 2008, 05:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
Friendship Is Magic All Stars 19,042 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Soleanna	well power dvd will mess up the settings abit though .
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cannavaro	Sep 24 2008, 05:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
CATTENACIO Senior Member 3,008 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: T.T.D.I, Bukit Damansara	QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 21 2008, 10:25 PM) For XP it is simple. Download and register ATIDVCR.DLL Install DOTNET 3.xx Then register evr.dll just incase Then look in MPC under the renderers and you'll see EVR. Added on September 21, 2008, 10:27 pmOr grab CoreAVC, install. Go to the ffdshow video codec settings. Disable codec source for h.264 it will now render in all ur h.264 with CoreAVC. Added on September 21, 2008, 10:28 pmBTW click my blog just to see how powerful is CoreAVC. Yes I'd go as far as saying CoreAVC is the best when decoding H264.
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chickenducksoup	Sep 24 2008, 09:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
I'm so GAY Senior Member 1,298 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: utopia	i got 7900gs also that mean the setting provide by amirsubhi is useless for me?
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stone13	Sep 24 2008, 09:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
Getting Started Junior Member 272 posts Joined: Jun 2006	good guide man thanks
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rsangel	Sep 24 2008, 05:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
No Smoking pls @_@ Senior Member 1,487 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: Ja Bee	Just wanna share my setting Sammy A550 40" Full HD Proc : AMD X2 4800+ Mobo : ASUS 690G Board with HDMI RAM : Kingston 2 GB running at DDR 800, i put 256 MB for the display OS : Windows XP SP3 At 1920x1080p res, can't play 720p source well.... still feel lagging all the way, if i play 1080p source......... biong~ At 1280x720p res, can play 720 source, output ok, play 1080p source not very ok haha tha's my small exp
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Riddhy	Oct 31 2008, 08:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
Regular Senior Member 1,956 posts Joined: May 2008	@demeter whats your monitor resolution size and how many inch is it 24 inch or more?
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TSdemeter	Oct 31 2008, 01:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Getting Started Junior Member 53 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Johor Bahru	QUOTE(Riddhy @ Oct 31 2008, 08:33 AM) @demeter whats your monitor resolution size and how many inch is it 24 inch or more? i'm not using a monitor, i hook up my pc to my lcd 40" tv via hdmi, resolution is full hd at 1920 x 1080 @ 60hz
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qwerty79	Nov 4 2008, 05:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
Regular Senior Member 1,907 posts Joined: Jan 2005 From: Pahang	QUOTE(rsangel @ Sep 24 2008, 05:10 PM) Just wanna share my setting Sammy A550 40" Full HD Proc : AMD X2 4800+ Mobo : ASUS 690G Board with HDMI RAM : Kingston 2 GB running at DDR 800, i put 256 MB for the display OS : Windows XP SP3 At 1920x1080p res, can't play 720p source well.... still feel lagging all the way, if i play 1080p source......... biong~ At 1280x720p res, can play 720 source, output ok, play 1080p source not very ok haha tha's my small exp Last weekend, after I bought 22" LCD monitor, my pc suddenly can't use hardware acceleration. My MPC HC just have black screen and can't play. But when check with MPC Video Decoder filter, the DXVA mode showed "H.264 bitstreamdeocder noFGT". Usually, when this mode showed, my hardware acceleration is running, low cpu utilization. So, I try uninstall all filter (I'm using klite code), and reinstall everything. But still not work. Finally, I change my resolution from 1680 x 1050 (native) to 1280 x 1024 . It work's . Change back, not working. Why this happen? I'm using vista x64 sp1.
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1024kbps	Nov 4 2008, 06:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	1. Buggy display driver. 2. Buggy mpc-hc build. I wonder where you guys download the mpc-hc?
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fariz	Nov 5 2008, 06:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 4 2008, 06:59 PM) 1. Buggy display driver. 2. Buggy mpc-hc build. I wonder where you guys download the mpc-hc? from http://xvidvideo.ru/
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hdmiplayer	Nov 7 2008, 02:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Nov 2008 From: Sales	hi new comer Added on November 7, 2008, 2:25 pmHI COMER This post has been edited by hdmiplayer: Nov 7 2008, 02:25 PM
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SUSwongfeihong	Dec 5 2008, 11:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Dec 2008	ok, ive installed cccp. and still lagging when play 1080p files. my spec: AMD mobo with 780g chipset AM2 X2 5200 do i need to install coreavc? or is there any setting that i missed? according to the guide, i need to disable h264 in cccp settings. when i disable that, the mpc-hc cannot play mkv files.
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1024kbps	Dec 5 2008, 12:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Missing 2 step. 1. Use internal decoder, press O and go "Internal Filters" and tick H264/AVC DXVA. 2. and for Output, All video renderer works on XP, execpt Haali video renderer, EVR, EVR Custom Presenter. For vista user, only EVR and EVR Custom Presenter support DXVA. Of cource dont expect it will work for all your h264 u got it from net, coz DXVA is very picky, there is a chance DXVA will failed if the h264 videos were encoded by x264 encoder, coz u dont know what the hell the encoding setting that were used by encoders.
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opifex	Dec 29 2008, 05:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
New Member Newbie 1 posts Joined: Dec 2008	"MPC Video Decoder (low merit)" Does not appear, it just shows "MainConcept Adobe2 H.264/AVC Decoder" MKV's are still stuttering and skipping This post has been edited by opifex: Dec 29 2008, 05:38 AM
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kalakatu	Jan 6 2009, 02:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
Insanely Addictive Senior Member 2,323 posts Joined: Apr 2006 From: Somewhere I Belong	weird..when i ticked the H264/AVC (DXVA), the subtitle just won't appear.. but there isnt any problem when i tick the VC1 (DXVA)
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1024kbps	Jan 6 2009, 07:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(kalakatu @ Jan 6 2009, 02:19 AM) weird..when i ticked the H264/AVC (DXVA), the subtitle just won't appear.. but there isnt any problem when i tick the VC1 (DXVA) Im not sure about this, but if you want to use sub with dxva, you have to use VMR7/9(XP) renderless mode or EVR custom presenter(vista) renderer. other renderer does not work with internal sub decoder, never tried with vsfilter.
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dwk2112	Jan 7 2009, 05:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
On my way Senior Member 519 posts Joined: May 2007	i can play 720p currently...dun ask me what codec cause i install k-lite and cccp and right now im not sure what is what. However i cant play 1080p and always thot that it was my cpu. I just got a celeron...cant remember the actual spec though. is it worth doing what is suggested and has anybody able to play 1080p with a less powerful cpu.
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havocx	Jan 7 2009, 05:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
The Last Fat Samurai Senior Member 1,913 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Quantum Leaping, Next Location Unknown..	QUOTE(dwk2112 @ Jan 7 2009, 05:00 PM) i can play 720p currently...dun ask me what codec cause i install k-lite and cccp and right now im not sure what is what. However i cant play 1080p and always thot that it was my cpu. I just got a celeron...cant remember the actual spec though. is it worth doing what is suggested and has anybody able to play 1080p with a less powerful cpu. Sadly mate, from my test no Atom or Celeron Processor can run 1080p. It even chokes sometimes on P4's.
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dwk2112	Jan 8 2009, 09:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
On my way Senior Member 519 posts Joined: May 2007	oh well....give me an excuse to upgrade my htpc ...
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zwanvedder	Jan 8 2009, 03:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Rock For Choice Senior Member 1,589 posts Joined: Sep 2008	QUOTE(havocx @ Jan 7 2009, 05:51 PM) Sadly mate, from my test no Atom or Celeron Processor can run 1080p. It even chokes sometimes on P4's. ya agreed..my P4 can't handle 1080p...sold oredi my p4
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pantik	Jan 9 2009, 04:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: Dec 2006	Dear All, Which are the best player to play H264 format?
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zwanvedder	Jan 9 2009, 10:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Rock For Choice Senior Member 1,589 posts Joined: Sep 2008	QUOTE(pantik @ Jan 9 2009, 04:40 AM) Dear All, Which are the best player to play H264 format? mphc(media player home cinema)+k lite codec
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ericpires	Jan 9 2009, 10:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Arsenal FC Senior Member 2,657 posts Joined: Feb 2008 From: Highbury House, 75 Drayton Park, London	QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jan 8 2009, 03:28 PM) ya agreed..my P4 can't handle 1080p...sold oredi my p4 720p also suffering on my p4... gonna get new pc soon
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ahinigami	Jan 9 2009, 05:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
Casual Junior Member 377 posts Joined: Aug 2008 From: K.L	I can only play 720p with my pentium D but not 1080p which is most probably because of my unknown graphic card T.T , I wonder when will I be able to upgrade my computer ....
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dwk2112	Jan 9 2009, 05:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
On my way Senior Member 519 posts Joined: May 2007	never try the media player home cinema...is there a different from the media player classic. I always find that zoom player has better quality when using with my HT projector with 80" projected image
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fariz	Jan 15 2009, 09:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	the latest build of MPC-HC solved my problem.. now all the ripped files are played with dxva
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gyver	Feb 7 2009, 01:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Regular Senior Member 1,067 posts Joined: Mar 2005	Have you guys tried KM Player. MKV x64 Video files which are lagging in VLC is playing so nice in KM Player. Note: Using HP Compaq Presario 126AX laptop connected to my 42PV80 via hdmi. Need to run KM Player with admin rights else get this dll error. This post has been edited by gyver: Feb 7 2009, 01:02 AM
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unnamed	Feb 10 2009, 11:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
On my way Senior Member 502 posts Joined: Jan 2003	my pc spec amd barton 1.8ghz geforce 7600gs (pixel shader 3.0) i do the following to maximize performance when playback 720p, which is quite smooth with my spec of pc -mpc-hc as media player -use haali renderer (best performance among the other renderers VMR9 and EVR, although on some videos it will display wrong framesize, such as youtube .flv) -use haali media splitter (compare to internal mpc splitter, it is noticeably faster during seeking) -coreavc (faster than divx7, ffdshow, or internal mpc decoder) -audio decoder no difference whether use ffdshow or internal mpc decoder 1080p videos cannot playback smoothly, though. This post has been edited by unnamed: Feb 10 2009, 11:12 PM
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1024kbps	Feb 11 2009, 10:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	1080p playback requirement is very high, dual core 3.0GHz is a must to ensure smooth playback with software decoder, and decoder must be ffdshow multithreaded version, Dixv7. mid-end GPU is a plus(video frame buffering). if the software decoder is Coreavc, CPU requirement might lower abit sinec its pertty fast. Downside is, high CPU usage. if user's GPU is ati HD2000 series / Nvidia G84 series / Via S3 Chrome 430GT / Intel GMA4500MHD GS45 and better, minimum CPU spec = 1GHz, with mpc internal h264 Dxva decoder(VIA S3 Chrome and Intel GS45 status is unknown). Advantage = low CPU usage, Downside, if the h264 video was encoded without using Dxva-compliant settings(refrence frame more than 7), Dxva decoder will failed to work, and software decoding mode will be painfully slow.
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xpresside	Feb 21 2009, 06:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
Regular Senior Member 1,982 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: TTDI	anyone has AC3Filter 1.46 x64 experiment build?
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1024kbps	Feb 21 2009, 10:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	^ wrong thread btw, no even i googled abit, there is no x64 version. you have 3 choice, 1. grab a msvc9 and compile a x64 version of ac3filter youself. 2. ffdshow x64 version http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.p...lease_id=569930 3. mpc-hc x64 version http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/category/1/1/2/ before anyone ask, the 3 app listed above are using the same thing, liba52, for ac3 decoding.
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wen9x88	Feb 22 2009, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,933 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: Kuala lumpur	this is only make it smooth right? not improve the quality? the quality is depend on the movie,media player change the quality right ?
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1024kbps	Feb 22 2009, 01:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Improve quality? every media player will output the same image quality, unless user is messing with the image filter (postprocessing, denoiser, equalizer, of course doing it wrong will degrade the video quality, though those filter are not possible to enable on realtime) or the decoder is bugged. Yup the quality is depend on te video itself, the Dxva decoder will still output the crappy image if the video was pooly encoded.
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enemyofgod	Feb 26 2009, 01:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
Blu-Ray™ Geek Senior Member 1,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Dark Side Of The Moon	Good stuff for my H264 files..
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qwe65	Feb 27 2009, 11:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
my assistant Senior Member 815 posts Joined: Jan 2009	usefull info here!!
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hendra86	Mar 25 2009, 04:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
Getting Started Junior Member 295 posts Joined: Nov 2007 From: KL	i have the same to, only using MPC. Is this ok?...i need ur opinion guys This post has been edited by hendra86: Mar 25 2009, 10:42 AM
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hairul	Mar 31 2009, 05:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Learn From The Mistake Senior Member 944 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SHAH ALAM	I already use this method long time ago. Im using Celeron Dual Core With Asus HD4350 GC. I already tested a few trailer & anime 1080p and its Work fine... Using : MPC+HC Bundle With K-Lite Just i dont have any movie with 1080P. anyone want to share to me for test pls PM me. I can pay for postage :-D This post has been edited by hairul: Mar 31 2009, 05:19 PM
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1024kbps	Mar 31 2009, 06:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Apple HD h264 video from here http://www.apple.com/quicktime/guide/hd/ for example BBC Motion gallery, Japan: 720p http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_galle...-japan_720p.mov 1080p http://images.apple.com/movies/us/hd_galle...japan_1080p.mov Please note that apple HD gallery only using Main Profile, not the most CPU demanding, but its enough make your CPU choking if Dxva doesn work or disabled, and system requirement not meet.
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chickenducksoup	Apr 9 2009, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
I'm so GAY Senior Member 1,298 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: utopia	for those who want to run HD 1080p movie with low rig here the trick HERE not support for GC 7xxx , 8800 (old version) and below summary:video rendering go to GC.not CPU any more. ps:i cant load the sub tat "build-in" the .mkv This post has been edited by chickenducksoup: Apr 9 2009, 11:30 AM
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devanbrat	May 7 2009, 08:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
Getting Started Junior Member 177 posts Joined: Jan 2007	Good info thanks..media player 10 works for me for HD clips with K-Lite Codec pack..pentium 4 HT here lol
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vinothen	May 13 2009, 08:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
1 2 3 4 Junior Member 260 posts Joined: Jan 2009	nice tutorial. is it pinned? very clear...
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shinzhizu	May 31 2009, 07:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
Regular Senior Member 1,298 posts Joined: Aug 2006	how should i do..? my gc is 7900gs and play with Final_Fantasy_Advent_Children_Complete_(2009)_[1080p,BluRay,x264,DTS]_-_THORA.mkv it keep lag..sound is smooth, but sometime the movie is lag..how to fix it?
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1024kbps	May 31 2009, 11:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	^ 7900gs is old gen GPU, it does support h264 Dxva, but only iDCT or motion compensation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVi...on_PureVideo_HD While mpc-hc dxva only support bitstream decoding, its completely offloading the decoding to gpu, but only supported on new gen nvidia GPU G84 and newer. try Dixv7 h264 decoder, if its still lag, times to upgrade your hardware
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shinzhizu	Jun 2 2009, 07:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
Regular Senior Member 1,298 posts Joined: Aug 2006	QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 31 2009, 11:09 PM) ^ 7900gs is old gen GPU, it does support h264 Dxva, but only iDCT or motion compensation, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_PureVi...on_PureVideo_HD While mpc-hc dxva only support bitstream decoding, its completely offloading the decoding to gpu, but only supported on new gen nvidia GPU G84 and newer. try Dixv7 h264 decoder, if its still lag, times to upgrade your hardware divx7 cant.but i use download coreAVC Pro..seem it solve my problem..
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1024kbps	Jun 3 2009, 07:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Yeah, CoreAVC pro is the fastest software decoder, which support CUDA but only for nvidia. Here is the timecodec bench for various free h264 decoder with h264 video, 1 minutes 47sec, high profile, resolution 800x592, Null Renderer is used. Computers spec see my sig. ffdshow rev2778 ICL10, libavcodec svn version: User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 27s, fps: 794.3, dfps: 116.2 User: 4s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 24s, fps: 737.6, dfps: 130.0 User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 28s, fps: 729.8, dfps: 112.7 cpu usage: 50%, not all cores are utilized Deblocking disabled, a.k.a. low quality mode: User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 3s, real: 21s, fps: 853.4, dfps: 149.1 User: 3s, kernel: 0s, total: 4s, real: 24s, fps: 762.1, dfps: 133.2 User: 2s, kernel: 0s, total: 2s, real: 22s, fps: 1104.4, dfps: 143.8 cpu usage is same as above libavcodec/ffmpeg multithreaded version: User: 1s, kernel: 0s, total: 1s, real: 6s, fps: 2429.7, dfps: 526.9 User: 1s, kernel: 0s, total: 1s, real: 6s, fps: 2244.9, dfps: 501.3 User: 1s, kernel: 0s, total: 1s, real: 6s, fps: 2868.4, dfps: 496.5 4 cores are utilized, avrage 90% DivX7 h264 decoder, build 08 01 00 00094 User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 3s, fps: 3623.3, dfps: 879.1 User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 3s, fps: 3623.3, dfps: 875.0 User: 0s, kernel: 0s, total: 0s, real: 3s, fps: 3755.1, dfps: 878.8 4 cores are utilized, average 90% MPC h264 decoder, Dxva enabled, with Overlay mixed, since Dxva1 wont work without video renderer. User: 0s, kernel: 1s, total: 1s, real: 14s, fps: 1665.5, dfps: 222.6 User: 0s, kernel: 1s, total: 1s, real: 14s, fps: 1780.4, dfps: 225.5 User: 0s, kernel: 1s, total: 1s, real: 14s, fps: 1692.9, dfps: 220.2 cpu usage: highest 23%
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SUSsoundsyst64	Jun 5 2009, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	Does HD2400 supports DXVA / encoding video using GPU instead of CPU?
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1024kbps	Jun 6 2009, 01:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	If you are not sure what is your GPU an would like to know whether if its support Dxva. try Dxva checker. http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/#DXVAChecker screenshots: http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dxvac/ss.html if you dont see ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT of first tab, your graphic card does not work witj mpc-hc h264 Dxva decoder, only software mode. Encoding video using GPU only work if your GPU is HD4000 series.
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n0v4m4r1n3	Jun 7 2009, 06:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
Safety and Health Practitioner Senior Member 1,072 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: MY	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jun 6 2009, 01:58 AM) If you are not sure what is your GPU an would like to know whether if its support Dxva. try Dxva checker. http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/#DXVAChecker screenshots: http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dxvac/ss.html if you dont see ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT of first tab, your graphic card does not work witj mpc-hc h264 Dxva decoder, only software mode. Encoding video using GPU only work if your GPU is HD4000 series. It's in Japanese...
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fariz	Jun 7 2009, 06:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Jun 7 2009, 06:12 AM) It's in Japanese... http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dxvac/D...ker_2.0.0.1.zip
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n0v4m4r1n3	Jun 7 2009, 06:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
Safety and Health Practitioner Senior Member 1,072 posts Joined: Jan 2008 From: MY	QUOTE(fariz @ Jun 7 2009, 06:15 AM) http://bluesky23.hp.infoseek.co.jp/dxvac/D...ker_2.0.0.1.zip Owh, tq very much fariz... There's ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT, so mine does support right?
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SUSsoundsyst64	Jun 7 2009, 10:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	It shows ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT when checking my HD2400 low profile GC. But when follow the instruction on the below link and play 1080p content with subtitles, the scene not seems quite smooth. For 1080p, I use VMR9 (renderless) instead of EVR, which the result CPU do the encoding. I revert back using EVR Custom Preset for 720p. Results, smooth playback with subtitles http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=20071309 This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Jun 7 2009, 10:34 PM
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1024kbps	Jun 7 2009, 11:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(n0v4m4r1n3 @ Jun 7 2009, 06:41 AM) Owh, tq very much fariz... There's ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT, so mine does support right? Yup, start from ATi HD2000 series GPU, will support H264 VLD NoFGT, which GPU does all the decoding stuff. Added on June 8, 2009, 12:12 am QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 7 2009, 10:31 PM) It shows ModeH264_VLD_NoFGT when checking my HD2400 low profile GC. But when follow the instruction on the below link and play 1080p content with subtitles, the scene not seems quite smooth. For 1080p, I use VMR9 (renderless) instead of EVR, which the result CPU do the encoding. I revert back using EVR Custom Preset for 720p. Results, smooth playback with subtitles http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=20071309 Well i think i mentioned before, Dxva on Vista only work with EVR and EVR Custom Presenter, while for XP, Dxva only work with Overlay Mixer, VMR 7/9/Windowed/Renderless mode. if you use the wrong combination, eg your OS is vista but you are not using EVR, mpc h264 dxva decoder will fallback to software mode, which CPU will all the decoding work, If you are using VMR7/9 Renderless or EVR Custom Presenter, press CTRL + J and you will see the OSD with verbose of information: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Jun 8 2009, 12:12 AM
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SUSsoundsyst64	Jun 8 2009, 03:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jun 7 2009, 11:52 PM) Yup, start from ATi HD2000 series GPU, will support H264 VLD NoFGT, which GPU does all the decoding stuff. Added on June 8, 2009, 12:12 am Well i think i mentioned before, Dxva on Vista only work with EVR and EVR Custom Presenter, while for XP, Dxva only work with Overlay Mixer, VMR 7/9/Windowed/Renderless mode. if you use the wrong combination, eg your OS is vista but you are not using EVR, mpc h264 dxva decoder will fallback to software mode, which CPU will all the decoding work, If you are using VMR7/9 Renderless or EVR Custom Presenter, press CTRL + J and you will see the OSD with verbose of information: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I test Bolt 1080p BluRay Rip movie using EVR Custom Presenter (using vista), enable lock back buffer 3, auto-load subs and it seems there's a huge framerate freeze. But when analyse another 1080p movies, the framerate output are different, less framerate freeze and i believe it depends on the screen size. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Based from what I've seen on the graph, when the frame went slow, the graph drops below the thick blue line and max jitter getting higher. This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Jun 8 2009, 03:11 AM
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fariz	Jun 8 2009, 07:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	try getting the latest MPC-HC nightly built, alot of improvements have been introduced since the stable release. http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/781/2/ Click "without installer" link, select "I agree" and click continue This post has been edited by fariz: Jun 8 2009, 07:04 AM
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SUSsoundsyst64	Jun 8 2009, 10:50 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	QUOTE(fariz @ Jun 8 2009, 07:03 AM) try getting the latest MPC-HC nightly built, alot of improvements have been introduced since the stable release. http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/781/2/ Click "without installer" link, select "I agree" and click continue Oh, thank you. Now I'm able to view 1080p content smoothly. All this while, I depend a lot on built-in player inside K-Lite Codec pack.
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fariz	Jun 8 2009, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 8 2009, 10:50 AM) Oh, thank you. Now I'm able to view 1080p content smoothly. All this while, I depend a lot on built-in player inside K-Lite Codec pack. if your media is mainly avi and mkv, codec pack is not needed for playback. MPC-HC is sufficient.
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SUSsoundsyst64	Jun 14 2009, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	I'm facing a visual distraction which appears on some scene. but it works well when using other pc that share the same spec, but using higher ati hd graphics card. --image resize from original 1980 to 1280-- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Is there anything wrong with the player or I use wrong settings? I use default settings. --video details-- CODE General Complete name : 2008.U - Dr. Seuss' Horton Hears a Who!.mkv Format : Matroska File size : 6.76 GiB Duration : 1h 26mn Overall bit rate : 11.2 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2008-10-17 17:54:42 Writing application : mkvmerge v2.3.0 ('Freak U') built on Sep 8 2008 18:32:16 Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1h 26mn Bit rate : 9 495 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 040 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16/9 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 24 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(PixelFrame) : 0.198 Stream size : 5.71 GiB (84%) Title : x264 crf encode Writing library : x264 core 65 r998M 6768543 Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy_rd=1.5:0.5 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / mbaff=0 / bframes=5 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=crf / crf=18.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=38000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=0 Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 1h 26mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Resolution : 24 bits Stream size : 931 MiB (13%) Title : dts 1536 kb/s Language : English Text #1 ID : 3 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Language : Dutch Text #2 ID : 4 Format : UTF-8 Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8 Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text Language : English This post has been edited by soundsyst64*: Jun 14 2009, 12:22 PM
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woopypooky	Jun 14 2009, 06:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Regular Senior Member 1,292 posts Joined: Dec 2004	does this means have to uninstall storm codec and klite codec? what if wan to watch.rmvb?
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shinjite	Jun 24 2009, 06:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	download real alternative
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goldfries	Jul 2 2009, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
40K Club Forum Admin 44,415 posts Joined: Jan 2003	http://www.guru3d.com/article/accelerate-x...-the-gpu-guide/ just to share.
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blindbox	Jul 2 2009, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
Meh Senior Member 1,705 posts Joined: Nov 2004	K-Lite Codec pack should be more capable than CCCP, they update their MPC-HC version to the latest build every two weeks or so, compared to CCCP where updates take forever. I don't have any videos capable of DXVA anyway , so software mode all the way for me. I suggest using codec packs btw, unless you're good enough to compile(you'll need a bunch of softwares).
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fariz	Jul 2 2009, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(blindbox @ Jul 2 2009, 11:14 AM) K-Lite Codec pack should be more capable than CCCP, they update their MPC-HC version to the latest build every two weeks or so, compared to CCCP where updates take forever. CCCP beta is available if you want to test. http://www.cccp-project.net/beta/
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gengenrinni	Jul 11 2009, 05:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
Getting Started Junior Member 203 posts Joined: Mar 2008	MCP (media classic player) works fine for me
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GymBoi	Jul 25 2009, 11:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Regular Senior Member 1,393 posts Joined: Feb 2006	hi guys .. this doesnt work with 32bit OS ar ?
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1024kbps	Jul 25 2009, 11:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	It doesnt matter if your OS 32bit or x64, as long as your OS is Windows XP and above, with proper hardware, proper video player plus codecs and your video file is Dxva compliant, Then the hardware acceleration will work without problem.
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GymBoi	Jul 25 2009, 11:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
Regular Senior Member 1,393 posts Joined: Feb 2006	But i checked out the link on the 1st page http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/view/781/2/ Only got x86 and 64 ... am i missing something ?
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1024kbps	Jul 26 2009, 01:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	x86 = x86_32 = 32bit x64 = x86_64 = 64bit
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GymBoi	Jul 27 2009, 10:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
Regular Senior Member 1,393 posts Joined: Feb 2006	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jul 26 2009, 01:31 AM) x86 = x86_32 = 32bit x64 = x86_64 = 64bit so x86 is 32 bit ar ? from the website QUOTE Media Player Classic HomeCinema x86 (Complete package): Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1156, Вариант с инсталлятором / With installer Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1156, Вариант с инсталлятором / With installer 2009-06-07 20:53:30 5.28 Mb Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1156, Вариант без инсталлятора / Without installer Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86), svn 1156, Вариант без инсталлятора / Without installer 2009-06-07 20:52:38 5.13 Mb standalone_filters-svn1156_x86 standalone_filters-svn1156_x86 2009-06-07 20:58:33 2.72 Mb Which 1 shoud i dl ? With or without installer ?
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1024kbps	Jul 28 2009, 09:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Installer version probably are for novice user, easier to use only. you can use the one without installer, just extract the file you want. Standalone fitlers are for other players like WMP, Zoom player and other directshow-based /Dxva-less player which relies to external directshow filter, to use the H264/VC-1 Dxva without using mpc-hc.
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fariz	Jul 28 2009, 09:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	btw, the link in the 1st page is old go to http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/category/1/1/2/ to get the latest
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GymBoi	Jul 28 2009, 11:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
Regular Senior Member 1,393 posts Joined: Feb 2006	QUOTE(fariz @ Jul 28 2009, 09:49 PM) btw, the link in the 1st page is old go to http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/category/1/1/2/ to get the latest Ooh thanks .. was just about to start my dl edit: woot QUOTE Attention! You get the not stable version of the program! Which is the stable version ? also i tried to dl the latest 1 .. dl seems like not moving ?site down ? This post has been edited by GymBoi: Jul 28 2009, 11:14 PM
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1024kbps	Jul 28 2009, 11:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Click "i Agree" and click again "continue"
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GymBoi	Jul 28 2009, 11:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
Regular Senior Member 1,393 posts Joined: Feb 2006	Hmm followed everything in the 1st page ... until the last part ... i can't find "MPC Video Decoder (low merit)" ... mine dun have (low merit) ... And when i click inside .. DXVA mode : Not using DXVA lol .. im using vista .. ATI RADEON HD 4850 This post has been edited by GymBoi: Jul 28 2009, 11:54 PM
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1024kbps	Jul 29 2009, 12:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Press O, click "internal filters", make sure the H264/AVC (DXVA) is checked on mpc-hc. and read previous pages, Dxva only works if 1. Your video card support Dxva (HD2000 and above) 2. On Windows Vista, your video renderer is EVR or EVR custom presenter, Windows XP will work with all video renderers except EVR, HVR and MadVR. 3. Your video file must be h264/VC-1 and its was encoded with Dxva complaint setttings. 4. Your video container must be MKV or MP4, avi will likely fail to work.
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CoffeeDude	Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
Regular Senior Member 1,609 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: KL	I downloaded mplayerc_homecinema_x86_v1.2.908.0.zip from http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/ but I've no idea how to install it. The latest version K-Lite Codec Pack 5.05 (Full) includes Media Player Classic Homecinema [version 1.2.1008.0] MPC-HC versions are not the same
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fariz	Aug 7 2009, 03:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM) I downloaded mplayerc_homecinema_x86_v1.2.908.0.zip from http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/ but I've no idea how to install it. The latest version K-Lite Codec Pack 5.05 (Full) includes Media Player Classic Homecinema [version 1.2.1008.0] MPC-HC versions are not the same if you compare those two, the build included in K-Lite is newer but the build from this site is even newer. This post has been edited by fariz: Aug 22 2009, 08:34 AM
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CoffeeDude	Sep 1 2009, 09:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
Regular Senior Member 1,609 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: KL	I just bought a HD4650 and found out that hardware accleration / decoding does not work for some 1080p MKV files.
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1024kbps	Sep 3 2009, 06:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Reason is very simple, some of your video file isnt Dxva compliant, rather than video card problem, there are too many ways to break the Dxva.
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CoffeeDude	Sep 6 2009, 08:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
Regular Senior Member 1,609 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: KL	Which video player is the most suitable to work with ATi HD cards?
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hairul	Sep 8 2009, 09:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
Learn From The Mistake Senior Member 944 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: SHAH ALAM	QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Sep 6 2009, 08:07 PM) Which video player is the most suitable to work with ATi HD cards? Im Using ATi HD4350. MPC will works fine just like others. Like other forumer say, some Video Dont Have DXVA compliant. If u want to download, try check the files detail whether have DXVA. Normally got. I have several 1080P movie (8GB) and play with no problem with ASUS ATI HD 4350 (Cheaper GC - No Fan) Im using Celeron Dual Core 2Ghz Only cheap CPU also.. Heheheh
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enemyofgod	Sep 19 2009, 01:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
Blu-Ray™ Geek Senior Member 1,431 posts Joined: Mar 2007 From: Dark Side Of The Moon	QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Sep 6 2009, 08:07 PM) Which video player is the most suitable to work with ATi HD cards? WMP as far as i experienced..works very well..or MPC
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SUSMr.Wokayyy	Sep 29 2009, 05:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: Sep 2009	am using GOM player to solve all my problems. however anyway i can upscale a movie internally on my pc before output to my 42" ?
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angelic-x	Oct 15 2009, 05:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Not a member Senior Member 644 posts Joined: Dec 2006	Thanks for sharing
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slash	Oct 16 2009, 09:51 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
Warcraft 3 Champion - Lan Party 2003 Senior Member 1,081 posts Joined: Jan 2003	when i try to play a 11gb file, it takes a while to get the movie started. is this normal?
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SUSsoundsyst64	Oct 16 2009, 09:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	QUOTE(slash @ Oct 16 2009, 09:51 AM) when i try to play a 11gb file, it takes a while to get the movie started. is this normal? yup, it's normal because the player need to load the file first.
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slash	Oct 16 2009, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
Warcraft 3 Champion - Lan Party 2003 Senior Member 1,081 posts Joined: Jan 2003	but its really taking a long time. finished my breakfast and the movie hasnt loaded. haha
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SUSsoundsyst64	Oct 16 2009, 10:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
I'm No-Longer-Noobs Senior Member 3,725 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: In /hardware/	QUOTE(slash @ Oct 16 2009, 10:11 AM) but its really taking a long time. finished my breakfast and the movie hasnt loaded. haha that's weird. for me, it took about 3 seconds for player to load huge size movie.
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Ryuuga	Oct 16 2009, 10:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Guitarist Unlimited Senior Member 677 posts Joined: Apr 2007	I'm using VLC player and i have the same problem, the video will lag all the way until the end its impossible to watch at all.. Is there any way to tweak vlc settings to compensate for my specs? i don't even mind compromising a little video quality as long as its smooth.. my specs: Pentium 4 2.60GHz 2.5GB RAM Radeon 9550
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slash	Oct 16 2009, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Warcraft 3 Champion - Lan Party 2003 Senior Member 1,081 posts Joined: Jan 2003	dunnoe if this helps. the file info. some movie abt a hot chick, a dude and machines with red eyes. General Complete name : F:\incoming\Completed\xxxxx-1080.mkv Format : Matroska File size : 10.9 GiB Duration : 2h 29mn Overall bit rate : 10.4 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2009-09-28 01:04:31 Writing application : mkvmerge v2.9.7 ('Tenderness') built on Jul 1 2009 18:43:35 Writing library : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4.1 Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames Muxing mode : Container profile=Unknown@4.1 Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 2h 29mn Bit rate : 8 728 Kbps Nominal bit rate : 8 935 Kbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 800 pixels Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1 Frame rate : 23.976 fps Resolution : 24 bits Colorimetry : 4:2:0 Scan type : Progressive Bits/(PixelFrame) : 0.237 Stream size : 9.13 GiB (83%) Writing library : x264 core 76 r1271 496d79d Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=8935 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 Language : English Audio ID : 2 Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : A_DTS Duration : 2h 29mn Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel positions : Front: L C R, Surround: L R, LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Resolution : 24 bits Stream size : 1.58 GiB (14%) Title : DTS 1509 Kbps Language : English Added on October 16, 2009, 11:10 amusing core to decode it btw. using x2 3200, 8600gt. maybe upgrading to i5 will help? This post has been edited by slash*: Oct 16 2009, 11:10 AM
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darude87	Oct 16 2009, 08:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
hhhoooiii!!! Senior Member 1,412 posts Joined: Jun 2005	i saw mpc hc website stated that there's bug with ATi users might face random green frames appearing during playback, and i'm facing that, is there other solution to this other than reverting to driver 8.5?
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1024kbps	Oct 16 2009, 09:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	isnt the new cat is 8.65? If you cpu is 3 GHz or better, try playback using latest version of ffdshow, less trouble than Dxva, lag-free if configured correctly, downside is high cpu usage.
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darude87	Oct 16 2009, 10:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
hhhoooiii!!! Senior Member 1,412 posts Joined: Jun 2005	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 16 2009, 09:55 PM) isnt the new cat is 8.65? If you cpu is 3 GHz or better, try playback using latest version of ffdshow, less trouble than Dxva, lag-free if configured correctly, downside is high cpu usage. hmm, running on 8.65 using latest klite 5.20 full, mpc hc below are my specs E8400 3.0ghz 2gb ddr2 800mhz HD3870 512MB win 7 professional mind to share how to set? thanks in advance This post has been edited by darude87: Oct 16 2009, 10:04 PM
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1024kbps	Oct 16 2009, 10:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(Ryuuga @ Oct 16 2009, 10:30 AM) I'm using VLC player and i have the same problem, the video will lag all the way until the end its impossible to watch at all.. Is there any way to tweak vlc settings to compensate for my specs? i don't even mind compromising a little video quality as long as its smooth.. my specs: Pentium 4 2.60GHz 2.5GB RAM Radeon 9550 your pc spec has a slim chance to play 1080p video smoothly, try CoreAVC? here is how to "tweak" the vlc: http://wiki.videolan.org/WindowsFAQ#H.264....ack_is_too_slow mplayer can disable more for better performance, but quality very bad, eg lotsa frame skipping + ugly blocking Added on October 16, 2009, 10:30 pm QUOTE(darude87 @ Oct 16 2009, 10:03 PM) hmm, running on 8.65 using latest klite 5.20 full, mpc hc below are my specs E8400 3.0ghz 2gb ddr2 800mhz HD3870 512MB win 7 professional mind to share how to set? thanks in advance since you are using mpc hc, launch mpc hc, press "O", > Internal Filters > Transform filter, scrolldown and you will see 2 h264 decoder, untick H264/AVC (Dxva) and select the FFmpeg one. This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Oct 16 2009, 10:30 PM
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darude87	Oct 16 2009, 11:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
hhhoooiii!!! Senior Member 1,412 posts Joined: Jun 2005	then under playback > output, any settings do i need to change? edit: i have a big question mark on my head now, i've installed klite, coreAVC,and also realalt, i wonder which codec am i running now? lol This post has been edited by darude87: Oct 16 2009, 11:04 PM
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1024kbps	Oct 16 2009, 11:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(darude87 @ Oct 16 2009, 11:00 PM) then under playback > output, any settings do i need to change? edit: i have a big question mark on my head now, i've installed klite, coreAVC,and also realalt, i wonder which codec am i running now? lol The leave output section to default, unless you know what are you doing If you want to know which codec are being used during playback, just right click on mpc> Filters.
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darude87	Oct 17 2009, 12:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
hhhoooiii!!! Senior Member 1,412 posts Joined: Jun 2005	thanks for all the help until here, and actually i'm just using a 19" square to display, looks no diff to me tho finally i have 1 last question, those movies have black frame, is there a way to display full screen without those black frames?
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kira_88	Oct 17 2009, 02:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Hello, is it me you're looking for? Senior Member 1,150 posts Joined: Oct 2009 From: KBR-BKI	thanks dude!!!it work!!i love u guys!! just a little more problem here...why does it bcome like dis?? This post has been edited by kira_88: Oct 17 2009, 02:46 AM Attached thumbnail(s)
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Ryuuga	Oct 17 2009, 05:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Guitarist Unlimited Senior Member 677 posts Joined: Apr 2007	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 16 2009, 10:08 PM) your pc spec has a slim chance to play 1080p video smoothly, try CoreAVC? here is how to "tweak" the vlc: http://wiki.videolan.org/WindowsFAQ#H.264....ack_is_too_slow mplayer can disable more for better performance, but quality very bad, eg lotsa frame skipping + ugly blocking Thanks alot! CoreAVC did the job very well. its at least 80% better than before now. At least the video is watchable and the lagginess/blocks are much less. I don't expect to watch 1080p videos on this pc, i'm already very happy if 720p vids play well. Thanks again =D
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failed.hashcheck	Oct 18 2009, 10:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Neighborhood plant pathologist Senior Member 2,090 posts Joined: Aug 2009 From: Shithole Klang	QUOTE(kira_88 @ Oct 17 2009, 02:35 AM) thanks dude!!!it work!!i love u guys!! just a little more problem here...why does it bcome like dis?? video not downloaded completely, usually if u use torrent and u finished(remove additional extension) it before it complete. u may resume download(need hashcheck first) or if the torrent has gone [u cant download it anymore], and the file is divx u can repair it using DivFix.
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1024kbps	Oct 20 2009, 07:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(darude87 @ Oct 17 2009, 12:05 AM) thanks for all the help until here, and actually i'm just using a 19" square to display, looks no diff to me tho finally i have 1 last question, those movies have black frame, is there a way to display full screen without those black frames? black band on the top and bottom? is it the movie aspect ratio is 16:9? unless you change you monitor to 16:9 or 16:10 type, less black band the only 2 ways to remove the 2 black band is crop off the left and right of the video using ffdshow or disable "keep aspect ratio" on mpc, you movie will be streched to fullscreen, both method isnt good actually
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darude87	Oct 23 2009, 01:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
hhhoooiii!!! Senior Member 1,412 posts Joined: Jun 2005	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 20 2009, 07:39 PM) black band on the top and bottom? is it the movie aspect ratio is 16:9? unless you change you monitor to 16:9 or 16:10 type, less black band the only 2 ways to remove the 2 black band is crop off the left and right of the video using ffdshow or disable "keep aspect ratio" on mpc, you movie will be streched to fullscreen, both method isnt good actually no idea how to do the 1st way 2nd way tried, still the same, untick keep aspect ratio, all movies still have the black band, hmm....
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porkchop	Jun 17 2010, 01:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
Lalala Life's Sweet Senior Member 6,633 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: www.kelvinchiew.com	i am wondering when my pc is set to play 720p video, at normal / not maximised screen its ok but once maximize the video is ok but the sound stuttering,..got sound then no sound then sound then no sound how to configure the sound and use wat codec best??
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radio_8888	Jul 8 2010, 06:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
Getting Started Junior Member 100 posts Joined: Dec 2008 From: Selangor Darul Ehsan Warn: (0%)	DXVA NO DXVA This post has been edited by radio_8888: Jul 8 2010, 06:36 AM
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1024kbps	Jul 8 2010, 07:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(porkchop @ Jun 17 2010, 01:06 AM) i am wondering when my pc is set to play 720p video, at normal / not maximised screen its ok but once maximize the video is ok but the sound stuttering,..got sound then no sound then sound then no sound how to configure the sound and use wat codec best?? PC spec? low end GPU might suffering stuttering video or audio playback, or slow CPU, if your OS is vista or w7, chance are the video player's video renderer use too much CPU resource and causing the audio to stuttering.
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1024kbps	Jul 8 2010, 07:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(radio_8888 @ Jul 8 2010, 06:12 AM) DXVA » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « NO DXVA MPEG2/DVD partial DXVA [attachmentid=1666308] Btw, its nothing special and not a new thing, if your OS is vista and w7, the default decoder for MPEG1/2 on vista already support MPEG1/2 Dxva, it just no one know about it lol, and, the default decoder on Windows 7 support MPEG1/2/H264 Dxva too, the MPC Dxva decoder its just a open source version, and the adavantage of this decoder is, it's work with Windows XP. Added on July 10, 2010, 11:56 pmA little update here: Well i have tried to download the out-of-spec h264 video from this site: http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ i have only got 2, other links to download the video doesn't seem to work now i tried to post a comment on that blog but the site said im spammer LOL Ati user finally able to playback those out-of-spec video, tested 2 clips from site above plus with my own h264 test video encoded with insane settings (16 reference frame and 16 b-frames). no more error output or skipping scene, the only requirement is, its only work with EVR Custom Presenter or EVR, other video renderer does not work at all, So far i have only tested on Windows 7, and Catalyst 10.6, Windows XP does have EVR renderer provided if you have installed .NET framework 3.5 or may be higher version, but video crashed mpc for me This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Jul 10 2010, 11:58 PM
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Rudd	Jul 26 2010, 11:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 4,043 posts Joined: Jul 2010	i have done like shown in the tutorial, but MPC VIDEO DECODER (low merit) did not appear at the filter.
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fariz	Jul 27 2010, 07:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(Rudd @ Jul 26 2010, 11:38 PM) i have done like shown in the tutorial, but MPC VIDEO DECODER (low merit) did not appear at the filter. either that or just MPC VIDEO DECODER
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predicate undefined	Aug 3 2010, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
New Member Junior Member 30 posts Joined: Oct 2008	http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1513222 - try this also!! peace
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Skylinestar	Aug 9 2010, 07:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Mega Duck All Stars 10,467 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Sarawak	is it possible to have dxva with subtitles turn on in win7 media center? if yes, what codec pack can do that? ffdshow?
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1024kbps	Aug 9 2010, 11:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Aug 9 2010, 07:57 PM) is it possible to have dxva with subtitles turn on in win7 media center? if yes, what codec pack can do that? ffdshow? yup, ffdshow support dxva + subs, only if w7 media center can use external directshow filters. This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Aug 9 2010, 11:08 PM
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lionelzc	Oct 17 2010, 07:07 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
Casual Junior Member 333 posts Joined: Apr 2008	Is anyone having gpu acceleration problems on vlc? I wanted to test out whether there is any significant change to video playback if it's on gpu. The video playback became laggy worst when I ticked on the option. My laptop specs: AMD AThlon X2 p320 (2.1ghz) 2GB RAM ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 Is there any need for an update or do I have to change the video output (currently on default) or simply there isn't any support yet for my GC?
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1024kbps	Oct 17 2010, 07:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	What is your OS? Though i never tried VLC hardware acceleration before, try mpc-hc recent build first, make sure your ati catalyst is up to date. download recent build here: http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-class...4-1-4-2667.html and read the guide here http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/
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lionelzc	Oct 18 2010, 05:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
Casual Junior Member 333 posts Joined: Apr 2008	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 17 2010, 07:27 PM) What is your OS? Though i never tried VLC hardware acceleration before, try mpc-hc recent build first, make sure your ati catalyst is up to date. download recent build here: http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-class...4-1-4-2667.html and read the guide here http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ Win 7 64 bit I'm not sure whether I should update my ATi Catalyst cause the default version is 2010.0329.836.13543 First time trying to update my GC and I'm not sure whether it's OK to mess with it. Read ur guide and it's very informational but it would take a while for me to follow it cause having exams now.
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1024kbps	Oct 18 2010, 08:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(lionelzc @ Oct 18 2010, 05:08 PM) Win 7 64 bit I'm not sure whether I should update my ATi Catalyst cause the default version is 2010.0329.836.13543 First time trying to update my GC and I'm not sure whether it's OK to mess with it. Read ur guide and it's very informational but it would take a while for me to follow it cause having exams now. Well newer version of catalyst might have better chance to decode "Out-of-spec" h264 with DXVA enabled. thats not my guide its from one of the forumer from here. if your H264 or any other video that capable of DXVA might not work if the video container is "AVI". it crashed my pc once when i tried the beta version.
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fariz	Oct 18 2010, 10:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(lionelzc @ Oct 18 2010, 05:08 PM) Win 7 64 bit I'm not sure whether I should update my ATi Catalyst cause the default version is 2010.0329.836.13543 you should upgrade the driver.
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chenhui87	Nov 3 2010, 12:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
♥Jigeumeun So Nyuh Shi Dae♥ Senior Member 2,150 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: 首尔	Thanks for sharing~! nice guide
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DayDream-ing	Nov 5 2010, 01:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
Getting Started Junior Member 128 posts Joined: Apr 2009 From: Bintulu,Sarawak	hmmm,i got some 720p & 1080p mkv movie, but i do feel that 1080p doesn't seem too be much much more hd that 720p is it anything due to my 19" 1440x900 bottleneck the reso,so the 1080p movie oni play at 1440x900 but not 1920x1080 ?
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1024kbps	Nov 5 2010, 07:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Its because your video player downscaled the 1080p video to fit into your LCD reso. so yes the video only play at 1440x900. the detail might appear to blurry due to the default resampler use by video renderer. you still can improve the quality if you want to play 1080p on your non-FullHD LCD, by using high quality resampler, but that comes with a price: high CPU usage.
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vtec-ing	Nov 23 2010, 10:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Getting Started Junior Member 190 posts Joined: Mar 2008	hi peeps, any clues why i only to get some h.264 videos in DXVA mode? some files after i double checked the video properties to confirm the h.264 but still MPC-HC says 'not using DXVA'. and also why i cant output DTS (and only Dobly digital works)?
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1024kbps	Nov 23 2010, 06:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Dxva are very picky about video, make sure your MPC-HC is up to date. Dxva is onlly supported if your h264 is in MKV, MP4, and prolly MPEG-TS. Can you list out your PC spec? Especially OS, video card and video driver. For DTS im not sure, you could try ffdshow first, and make sure your video/audio card support DST passtrough, and your amp.
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alvinool	Nov 24 2010, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
On my way Senior Member 520 posts Joined: Dec 2004 From: kelana jaya	bro u mean not smooth is how? when panning time? or total lag playback for 1080p ?
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vtec-ing	Nov 26 2010, 01:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
Getting Started Junior Member 190 posts Joined: Mar 2008	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 23 2010, 06:41 PM) Dxva are very picky about video, make sure your MPC-HC is up to date. Dxva is onlly supported if your h264 is in MKV, MP4, and prolly MPEG-TS. Can you list out your PC spec? Especially OS, video card and video driver. For DTS im not sure, you could try ffdshow first, and make sure your video/audio card support DST passtrough, and your amp. thanks bro... Yeah u're right. Gonna be picky as well when downloading video DXVA play flawlessly... got the DTS working after install AC3filter and set it to passthrough..now DTS,AC3 and AAC all also no problem
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Nosferatu	Jan 9 2011, 03:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
Casual Junior Member 308 posts Joined: Dec 2004	I am guessing this is the right thread to ask this question.. other than smooth playback, what is the best shader to use for mpc-hc? so far i am using 16-235->0-255 [SD][HD] + sharpen complex 2 as shown But I am somewhat not happy with the outcome. As shown in the picture above, even though the colors look richer than standard, the details look somewhat smudgy.. Monitor I am using Asus VK246H
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yshiuan	Jan 16 2011, 09:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,126 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kedah	i'm facing some lagginess when playing 1080p with MPC-HC and also real media video, but not with WMP. i only can feel the lag when using DXVA on 1080p video. as for real media i'm not so sure.
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1024kbps	Jan 16 2011, 11:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 16 2011, 09:58 PM) i'm facing some lagginess when playing 1080p with MPC-HC and also real media video, but not with WMP. i only can feel the lag when using DXVA on 1080p video. as for real media i'm not so sure. Rmvb can lag? probably poorly encoded lol, try other player like Mplayer or VLC see if the same things happen or not. What is your OS and GPU? 1080 can be lag too if your video renderer is VRM9/EVR renderless/custom presenter as need at least mid end GPU. And, update your video driver first. WMP use EVR only thats why the 1080p so smooth.
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yshiuan	Jan 17 2011, 12:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,126 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kedah	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jan 16 2011, 11:26 PM) Rmvb can lag? probably poorly encoded lol, try other player like Mplayer or VLC see if the same things happen or not. What is your OS and GPU? 1080 can be lag too if your video renderer is VRM9/EVR renderless/custom presenter as need at least mid end GPU. And, update your video driver first. WMP use EVR only thats why the 1080p so smooth. other player no prob. MPC giving prob only. win7 and 8600gts. 8600gts quite powerful. now igp also can play 1080p smoothly
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1024kbps	Jan 17 2011, 12:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 17 2011, 12:26 AM) other player no prob. MPC giving prob only. win7 and 8600gts. 8600gts quite powerful. now igp also can play 1080p smoothly Update your MPC-HC as well, and dont expect Dxva works with all HD video, dxva is very picky, if the video you are playing is not supported by Dxva it will fall back to CPU/ aka software decoding mode, which is super slow. just asking, why want to use MPC-HC if you know other player does not have playback problem?
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yshiuan	Jan 17 2011, 08:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,126 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kedah	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Jan 17 2011, 12:46 AM) Update your MPC-HC as well, and dont expect Dxva works with all HD video, dxva is very picky, if the video you are playing is not supported by Dxva it will fall back to CPU/ aka software decoding mode, which is super slow. just asking, why want to use MPC-HC if you know other player does not have playback problem? actually all are lastest ver. i dun lk too many players in my system
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shinjite	Jan 24 2011, 05:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 16 2011, 09:58 PM) i'm facing some lagginess when playing 1080p with MPC-HC and also real media video, but not with WMP. i only can feel the lag when using DXVA on 1080p video. as for real media i'm not so sure. For DXVA, I recommend at least a 512MB card minimum 256MB can't cut it for total smooth DXVA playback About your RMVB lag, the only thing I can blame is either the decoder or the encoded video itself. What was the CPU usage when viewing the RMVB file? This post has been edited by shinjite: Jan 24 2011, 05:10 PM
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1024kbps	Jan 25 2011, 02:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 24 2011, 05:10 PM) For DXVA, I recommend at least a 512MB card minimum 256MB can't cut it for total smooth DXVA playback About your RMVB lag, the only thing I can blame is either the decoder or the encoded video itself. What was the CPU usage when viewing the RMVB file? Too bad i sold my 2600xt, so i cant verify for this, 256mb is more than enough imho, even an IGP like 4200 series also capable of bluray playback leh
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shinjite	Jan 25 2011, 11:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	256MB will work, but won't have total smooth experience, thats why I recommended at least a 512MB card But anyway, GPU with 1GB cards are cheap nowadays, just upgrade and kill all the headaches Tried a friend's old AGP of the HD2600Pro with 512MB RAM, running smooth with DXVA on Windows XP last time This post has been edited by shinjite: Jan 25 2011, 11:55 AM
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yshiuan	Jan 25 2011, 11:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,126 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kedah	QUOTE(shinjite @ Jan 24 2011, 05:10 PM) For DXVA, I recommend at least a 512MB card minimum 256MB can't cut it for total smooth DXVA playback About your RMVB lag, the only thing I can blame is either the decoder or the encoded video itself. What was the CPU usage when viewing the RMVB file? quite low, less than 5% i think. I think it is just the settings problem. when playing DXVA, gpu memory usage only around 50%. so i dun thk so its gpu's prob. i only notice lagginess in rmvb when using mpc, not with wmp. strange rite? This post has been edited by yshiuan: Jan 25 2011, 12:00 PM
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shinjite	Jan 25 2011, 01:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 25 2011, 11:59 AM) quite low, less than 5% i think. I think it is just the settings problem. when playing DXVA, gpu memory usage only around 50%. so i dun thk so its gpu's prob. i only notice lagginess in rmvb when using mpc, not with wmp. strange rite? OK, for your RMVB you are using ffdshow's RMVB decoder? If yes, disable it and download Real Alternative and it will solve your problems GPU at 50% should work then, that should be okay. Maybe you do more testing to confirm because gone are the days of 256MB VRAM, now minimum also 512MB This post has been edited by shinjite: Jan 25 2011, 01:04 PM
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yshiuan	Jan 29 2011, 10:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,126 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Kedah	i thk i've found out the prob. the vram is not enuf although gpu load is just around 20% when i was plaing 1080p n i just notice i forgot to install real alternative so real media file prob solved
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KenDiriwan	Feb 18 2011, 03:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
Senior Member 2,277 posts Joined: Sep 2007 From: It's a tarp	Hey guys, this is my gpu : Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset 256mb. Is this guide suit for my hardware ?
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1024kbps	Feb 18 2011, 06:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(KenDiriwan @ Feb 18 2011, 03:36 PM) Hey guys, this is my gpu : Mobile Intel 965 Express Chipset 256mb. Is this guide suit for my hardware ? If im correct, the GPU on your laptop is X3100? GMA X3100 only support full MPEG2 Dxva, partial VC-1/WMV and no hardware acceleration for h264/AVC. Only GL40 chipset support them all with full hardware acceleration. IF your Laptop is dual core cpu with at least 1.8GHz, should be able to playback 1080p rip smoothly but CPU usage will be skyhigh.
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opjust	Mar 16 2011, 01:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
Enthusiast Senior Member 720 posts Joined: Sep 2009	Hi Lyn members, Im using laptop with normal intel HD graphic card to play movie with my tv. I have tried splash player the only player that can decode DTS HD master audio. My prob with this player I cant enable the spdif passtru, is there any alternative I can do this. Do you have any recomendation for other player that run smoothly for MKV file or perhaps upscale a bit? Do MKV media file contain HD audio?
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1024kbps	Mar 16 2011, 08:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(opjust @ Mar 16 2011, 01:27 PM) Hi Lyn members, Im using laptop with normal intel HD graphic card to play movie with my tv. I have tried splash player the only player that can decode DTS HD master audio. My prob with this player I cant enable the spdif passtru, is there any alternative I can do this. Do you have any recomendation for other player that run smoothly for MKV file or perhaps upscale a bit? Do MKV media file contain HD audio? You could try FFdshow, + mpc-hc If you wants you MKV run smoothly, use Mpc-hc and enable the interal h264 dxva decoder. For higher quality upscaling you should use EVR custom presenter or Madvr. MKV support many formats, thats including True HD and DTS HD.
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opjust	Mar 17 2011, 12:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Enthusiast Senior Member 720 posts Joined: Sep 2009	thank you very much for your reply 1024Kbps... the prob is using mpc hc i could not get the HD audio working... I can get normal DD or DTS but not DTS HD or Dolby TruHD... In addition I can really tell a diff using splash and mpc hc.. splash is more smooth but i could not get normal dd or dts audio in here. and im not sure if mpc hc could plyt m2ts file because there is no audio when i try to play them. in order to get DD or DTS in mpc hc i hv to ticked the AC3/SPDIF encode mode.. but when listening to normal laptop speaker the sound is completely broken and I hv to change it back.
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1024kbps	Mar 18 2011, 01:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(opjust @ Mar 17 2011, 12:44 AM) thank you very much for your reply 1024Kbps... the prob is using mpc hc i could not get the HD audio working... I can get normal DD or DTS but not DTS HD or Dolby TruHD... In addition I can really tell a diff using splash and mpc hc.. splash is more smooth but i could not get normal dd or dts audio in here. and im not sure if mpc hc could plyt m2ts file because there is no audio when i try to play them. in order to get DD or DTS in mpc hc i hv to ticked the AC3/SPDIF encode mode.. but when listening to normal laptop speaker the sound is completely broken and I hv to change it back. Hmm i thought ffdshow support them, probably need separate directshow decoder or something, or may be need to configure the HD audio decoder manually. Haali media splitter support m2ts, and try to enable all audio decoder support on ffdshow see if it could work. splash player free version dont support spdif passtru, mpc-hc and ffdshow probably is your only options. Sound card on your pc only support PCM thats why the sound is completely broken. there may be no way to do this automatically ... Btw im not pro on this area because never tried the spdif/hdmi stuff before
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opjust	Mar 18 2011, 04:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
Enthusiast Senior Member 720 posts Joined: Sep 2009	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Mar 18 2011, 01:14 AM) Hmm i thought ffdshow support them, probably need separate directshow decoder or something, or may be need to configure the HD audio decoder manually. Haali media splitter support m2ts, and try to enable all audio decoder support on ffdshow see if it could work. splash player free version dont support spdif passtru, mpc-hc and ffdshow probably is your only options. Sound card on your pc only support PCM thats why the sound is completely broken. there may be no way to do this automatically ... Btw im not pro on this area because never tried the spdif/hdmi stuff before hmm... im using haali as well.. but i failed to make it work.. someone told me to use gabest instead of haali.. but i dont know how to integrate gabest in mpc hc. anyway tks for your reply 1024kbps, appreciate it.
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alpha33	May 8 2011, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
Regular Senior Member 1,010 posts Joined: Apr 2005	Hello people. I have problems watching HD movies on my pc. 720p lag. 1080p VERY lag, especially when scrolling thru the time. Voice sync will run. I am using Klite megapack(latest ver). MPC. Running on win7 64bit. Rig specs: 1.86ghz core2duo 2gb DDR2 667 ram Nvidia 8600GT OC edition Previously i was on winXP, and i uses CoreAVC with CCCP which runs fine. But as time goes on, CoreAVC cannot decode newer movies properly. I will experience the color artifacts and mosaics effect. So when i changed to win7, i uses MPC with KLITE. I noticed the lags starts then. I tried changing to CoreAVC too, but it still suffers from lag. Watching a 1080p (10gb++ size movie), i noticed the CPU usage is at 70% and above. In between movie, voice sync runs out, lags, and even sound being cut off. Any ideas?Does adding in another 2 x 2gb DDR667 gonna help?I cant change GFX card since my PSU only 300 watts WITHOUT the molex sockets. Afaik, the MPC was set to run on GPU processing.
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neotoxin	May 8 2011, 10:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
~Tweeeeeeeeeet~ Senior Member 565 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Sri Medan	you can try tweaking MPC output settings
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alpha33	May 8 2011, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
Regular Senior Member 1,010 posts Joined: Apr 2005	Output setting has been set accordingly. Still same. Maybe u kind enough to share your settings shots?
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fariz	May 8 2011, 10:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
Tan Sri F VIP 16,825 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Siberia	QUOTE(alpha33 @ May 8 2011, 10:06 PM) I cant change GFX card since my PSU only 300 watts WITHOUT the molex sockets. Afaik, the MPC was set to run on GPU processing. if CPU usage is 70%, MPC is not using GPU decoding a low powered GPU such as ati HD6570 or nvidia gt430 can run without external power source you can read more about hardware decoding here: http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ This post has been edited by fariz: May 8 2011, 10:48 PM
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alpha33	May 8 2011, 11:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
Regular Senior Member 1,010 posts Joined: Apr 2005	QUOTE(fariz @ May 8 2011, 10:47 PM) if CPU usage is 70%, MPC is not using GPU decoding a low powered GPU such as ati HD6570 or nvidia gt430 can run without external power source you can read more about hardware decoding here: http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ After setting, then i played the same video. Now in the MPC, the bottom there is written "Playing [DXVA]". I assume i did the right way. Then in properties, i saw this message: DXVA Mode : H.264 bitstream decoder. no FGT Video card : Nvidia Geforce 8600gt Meaning? Now time seeking is faster, CPU load is lower between 18-30%. But i still see the jerkiness in 1080p. Could it be i am downloading (150kbps) files to the same hdd where the movie is playing? I tried another one in another hdd with the download running, same. Stopping the download only improves by a little...
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1024kbps	May 8 2011, 11:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	Yup its currently decoding in DXVA mode, what is your CPU? 18/30% is still high for DXVA imho. And downloading file and playback of video on the same HDD does not effect performance much unless your HDD is the old one or slowest type. Or may be the video is interlaced? OR if the video your are playing is original rip from bluray(average 35 megabit per second for video).
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alpha33	May 9 2011, 12:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Regular Senior Member 1,010 posts Joined: Apr 2005	HDD is a sata2 160gb. 3 years ago pc. video interlaced?hm..i am not sure how to check that. And i am also not sure what rip is that. Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.98fps [Video] Audio: DTS 48000Hz 6ch [Audio] Text [Subtitle] Filter : MPC Video Decoder - CLSID : {008BAC12-FBAF-497B-9670-BC6F6FBAE2C4} - Connected to: CLSID: {55DA30FC-F16B-49FC-BAA5-AE59FC65F82D} Filter: - Connection media type: Video: MPEG4 Video (H264) 1920x1080 23.98fps AM_MEDIA_TYPE: majortype: MEDIATYPE_Video {73646976-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} subtype: Unknown GUID Name {31435641-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71} formattype: FORMAT_MPEG2_VIDEO {E06D80E3-DB46-11CF-B4D1-00805F6CBBEA} bFixedSizeSamples: 0 bTemporalCompression: 0 lSampleSize: 1 cbFormat: 172 VIDEOINFOHEADER: rcSource: (0,0)-(0,0) rcTarget: (0,0)-(0,0) dwBitRate: 0 dwBitErrorRate: 0 AvgTimePerFrame: 417084 VIDEOINFOHEADER2: dwInterlaceFlags: 0x00000000 dwCopyProtectFlags: 0x00000000 dwPictAspectRatioX: 1920 dwPictAspectRatioY: 1080 dwControlFlags: 0x00000000 dwReserved2: 0x00000000 MPEG2VIDEOINFO: dwStartTimeCode: 0 cbSequenceHeader: 40 dwProfile: 0x00000064 dwLevel: 0x00000029 dwFlags: 0x00000004 BITMAPINFOHEADER: biSize: 40 biWidth: 1920 biHeight: 1080 biPlanes: 1 biBitCount: 24 biCompression: avc1 biSizeImage: 0 biXPelsPerMeter: 1 biYPelsPerMeter: 1 biClrUsed: 0 biClrImportant: 0 pbFormat: 0000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3c 5d 06 00 00 00 00 00 ........<]...... 0030: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 07 00 00 38 04 00 00 ........€...8... 0040: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 00 00 00 80 07 00 00 ........(...€... 0050: 38 04 00 00 01 00 18 00 61 76 63 31 00 00 00 00 8.......avc1.... 0060: 01 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ 0070: 00 00 00 00 28 00 00 00 64 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 ....(...d...)... 0080: 04 00 00 00\|00 1e 67 64 00 29 ac 34 e5 01 e0 08 ......gd.)¬4å.à. 0090: 9f 97 ff 00 01 00 01 10 00 19 74 f0 04 c4 b4 08 Ÿ—ÿ.......tð.Ä´. 00a0: f1 83 19 60 00 06 68 e9 3b 13 21 30 ñƒ.`..hé;.!0 Does this say anything?
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shinjite	Jul 25 2011, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	Currently using CUDA from CoreAVC Works like a charm CPU usage dropped to 3% to 5% (due to onboard audio) else totally 0%
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ask_dino	Aug 19 2011, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
DS is the name Senior Member 741 posts Joined: May 2006 From: The City Of Petaling Jaya	My PC tend to froze by itself whenever I turn on the full screen mode in MPC-HC playing avi, mkv not al the time but sometimes. Using Windows 7 32 bit and will change to 64 bit soon. Thanks
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shinjite	Aug 19 2011, 10:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
�ŞħĬΩĵΐŦ�� All Stars 19,307 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Klang	So whenever you press Alt + Enter for fullscreen, it tends to freeze?
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joanneway	Sep 2 2011, 12:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Casual Junior Member 310 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: Singapore	y playing with 7.6.0 beta till 7.7.0 stable version unable to play rmvb smoothly? shuttering & micro lag issue during playback. move the seek bar forward or backward still got this issue.
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Hara520	Dec 27 2011, 03:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
Getting Started Junior Member 176 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: N9~~~~>	Got some problem....I juz dl a bluray rip concert , 32gb .m2ts format And my comp abit delay... Here my comp spec and player: I3 -530 , 8GB ram ,Gigabyte H55M-USB3 + DEll U2311 via DVI play using PureCodec 20110603 and change the MainPlayer to Media Player Classic... So wat my prob?? comp or player? Here the Codec settings:
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1024kbps	Dec 27 2011, 06:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(Hara520 @ Dec 27 2011, 03:24 PM) Got some problem....I juz dl a bluray rip concert , 32gb .m2ts format And my comp abit delay... Here my comp spec and player: I3 -530 , 8GB ram ,Gigabyte H55M-USB3 + DEll U2311 via DVI play using PureCodec 20110603 and change the MainPlayer to Media Player Classic... So wat my prob?? comp or player? Here the Codec settings: Whats your GPU? Change the video renderer to EVR first, EVR custom presenter need better GPU. And if the video is interlaced or telecined, the video will prolly render at 60fps which more need more GPU resource. Second is dont use that codec pack, Windows 7 already comes with h264 + MPEG1/2 + VC-1 decoder with DXVA support. If your GPU is not nvidia the CoreAVC will use your CPU to decode the video, which is much more slower than Microsoft decoder.
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Hara520	Dec 28 2011, 08:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
Getting Started Junior Member 176 posts Joined: Aug 2007 From: N9~~~~>	QUOTE(1024kbps @ Dec 27 2011, 06:08 PM) Whats your GPU? Change the video renderer to EVR first, EVR custom presenter need better GPU. And if the video is interlaced or telecined, the video will prolly render at 60fps which more need more GPU resource. Second is dont use that codec pack, Windows 7 already comes with h264 + MPEG1/2 + VC-1 decoder with DXVA support. If your GPU is not nvidia the CoreAVC will use your CPU to decode the video, which is much more slower than Microsoft decoder. Mean use other player or install a gpu ???? Any recommend?? I didnt install gpu on tis pc...
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1024kbps	Dec 28 2011, 10:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(Hara520 @ Dec 28 2011, 08:27 PM) Mean use other player or install a gpu ???? Any recommend?? I didnt install gpu on tis pc... I3 530 cpu frequency is 2.93GHz right? its more than enough already, Like i said, try to use windows media player to play it first. Turn off Aero or other fancy effects on windows so your GPU will be less stress during playing 1080p content. if the problem still there, probably the integrated GPU cant make it, you will need some mid-end GPU like 6670 or GTX 540/550.
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debbierowe	Jan 30 2012, 09:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
so fast 6 stars di... Senior Member 1,107 posts Joined: May 2009	Hi Sifus... this is a 3yr old + discontinue BenQ Netbook VGA out to 29" LCD monitor playing 720p no problem. but lag-seriously on 1080p when using VLC, GOM & MPC May i know because it is under-spec? so that i dun have to waste time tweak/tune the setting... spec: Display Natural resolution (max) 1024 x 576 pixels Graphics hardware Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 Memory Amt of RAM 1GB Motherboard chipset Intel 945GM Processor type Intel Atom Processor speed 1.6 GHz Operating system Windows XP Home Thanks in Advance
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1024kbps	Feb 1 2012, 06:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(debbierowe @ Jan 30 2012, 09:00 AM) Hi Sifus... this is a 3yr old + discontinue BenQ Netbook VGA out to 29" LCD monitor playing 720p no problem. but lag-seriously on 1080p when using VLC, GOM & MPC May i know because it is under-spec? so that i dun have to waste time tweak/tune the setting... spec: Display Natural resolution (max) 1024 x 576 pixels Graphics hardware Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 Memory Amt of RAM 1GB Motherboard chipset Intel 945GM Processor type Intel Atom Processor speed 1.6 GHz Operating system Windows XP Home Thanks in Advance Short answer: yes, its under-spec, basically you will need dual core desktop(core duo 1.8GHz) cpu, or dxva capable GPU(radeon HD2300, nvidia 8400 or better). intel GMA 950 only have basic dxva for MPEG2, VC-1 and h264 support is missing, and your CPU might be too slow for any other software decoder. plus playing 1080p on your 1024x576 lcd at fullscreen, the player will need to resize the video from 1920x1080 to 1024x576 the fit the lcd, the player will use more cpu resource to resize the video. (only applies if playing on your laptop) Try CoreAVC, it's your only hope This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Feb 1 2012, 06:19 PM
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debbierowe	Feb 5 2012, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
so fast 6 stars di... Senior Member 1,107 posts Joined: May 2009	thanks sifu... finally a reply...lol its ok, this is not my "main pc" even thought of donate it away to some primary school kid think its enough usage for them. too many under spec for the new technoligy, but still very usable for net browsing, download & work on MS Office old computers flying around at home..
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 5 2012, 09:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	@debbierowe http://www.mediafire.com/?pov1uwps4jjcd11 u can tried this 1 portable player.. b4 u tried rmb to uninstall all ur previous codec + player 1) drag all the files to any place & dun put elsewhere. 2) lavfilters > double click install audio,splitter,video .bat 3) madflac > double click install.bat 4) madvr > double click install.bat 5) done! u can play ur 1080p if u plan to move those files, u must uninstall lavfilters, madflac, & madvr by double click those .bat files only! Added on February 5, 2012, 9:37 pm@1024kbps http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-class...cinema-x86-x64/ Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), 1.6.1.4034~39 onwards can't play certain rmvb with cook audio & some other audio.. can't complain at doom forum since * rmvb! This post has been edited by ngkhanmein**: Feb 5 2012, 09:37 PM
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1024kbps	Feb 6 2012, 12:05 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 5 2012, 09:34 PM) @debbierowe http://www.mediafire.com/?pov1uwps4jjcd11 u can tried this 1 portable player.. b4 u tried rmb to uninstall all ur previous codec + player 1) drag all the files to any place & dun put elsewhere. 2) lavfilters > double click install audio,splitter,video .bat 3) madflac > double click install.bat 4) madvr > double click install.bat 5) done! u can play ur 1080p if u plan to move those files, u must uninstall lavfilters, madflac, & madvr by double click those .bat files only! Added on February 5, 2012, 9:37 pm@1024kbps http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-class...cinema-x86-x64/ Media Player Classic HomeCinema (x86/x64), 1.6.1.4034~39 onwards can't play certain rmvb with cook audio & some other audio.. can't complain at doom forum since * rmvb! Actually Madvr is high quality video renderer(read: slow, require mainstream GPU), and it's incompatible** with Dxva, playing 1080p will make things worse If the user's os is Win7 then there is not need all the third party video decoder to play 1080p with Dxva, just Wmp 12 will do if the user GPU is not so ancient. or just mpc-hc alone is enough As for the Real video problem, i dont have rmvb samples on my side, how about try this? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry39961760 Or you could try MPlayer, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry39961760 Mplayer is the most robust player i've ever used, im sure it can playback the real video without much problem.
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 6 2012, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	@1024kbps thanks bro.. ever since using lav filters 0.45 i'm not able to play certain rmvb files & unable to use lav audio + lav video on the rmvb as while.. nvm i will figured out cos i'm used 2 it with mpc-hc..
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sandybridge	Feb 11 2012, 01:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
New Member Junior Member 16 posts Joined: Feb 2012 From: THE WORLD GOD ONLY KNOWS	how bout 10bit or Hi10P video.....???? any opinion???
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1024kbps	Feb 11 2012, 10:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(sandybridge @ Feb 11 2012, 01:29 AM) how bout 10bit or Hi10P video.....???? any opinion??? What hi10p? Dxva with hi10p decoding support? the current Dxva version does not support hi10p yet, mpc and wmp12 will just give you blank screen if you forced to enable Dxva.
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 20 2012, 09:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	QUOTE(sandybridge @ Feb 11 2012, 02:29 AM) how bout 10bit or Hi10P video.....???? any opinion??? i can play 10bit with flac audio smoothly..
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1024kbps	Feb 20 2012, 06:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 20 2012, 09:54 AM) i can play 10bit with flac audio smoothly.. Hi10P 1080p video... i can play it smoothly if i set mpc-hc affinity to 2 cpu, 3.7GHz, absolutely smooth, or set to 3 cpu with only 1GHz, also smooth but cpu usage is 100% for all cores. Decoder is Divx7 h264 < fastest free software h264 decoder imho. Disabling Aero/desktop composition will improve performance, may be. h264 software-based decoder is pretty fast nowadays, my thuban 3.7GHz can play 4 bluray videos simultaneously, original uncompressed 35Mbps without lag, or playback 7 instance of 1080p compressed(~2mbps) fansub, simultaneously. decoder is ffdshow, Divx7 sure can do alot better. While Dxva decoder cant do that, the gpu driver will crash lol.
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 21 2012, 10:41 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	dxva is a long time issue with either ati or nvidia or intel & also mpc-hc.. i stick with my madVR v0.80 + lavfilters v0.46 as for cpu core i set auto..
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1024kbps	Feb 21 2012, 12:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 21 2012, 10:41 AM) dxva is a long time issue with either ati or nvidia or intel & also mpc-hc.. i stick with my madVR v0.80 + lavfilters v0.46 as for cpu core i set auto.. tri-core or quad core's cpu user shouldn't worry about playing 1080p, it will smooth unless the decoder has prob, or mis-configured player. As for Dxva with Hi10p support, it prolly just matter of time, at first, Nvidia was the only GPU that can decode the 1080p with More than 4 reference frame, while Ati/amd couldn't, but later max 4 reference frame restriction was "unlocked" on newer Catalyst.
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 21 2012, 12:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	mobility HD 5650 user can't watch with dxva & utube appeared flash green.. currently only me din face this issue.. they said after 11.2 driver onwards got this issue.. i'm using 12.2 so far ok.. just that 4k i unable to run with dxva only.. (got audio) but their case was none of the vid able to play with dxva..
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1024kbps	Feb 21 2012, 06:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 21 2012, 12:10 PM) mobility HD 5650 user can't watch with dxva & utube appeared flash green.. currently only me din face this issue.. they said after 11.2 driver onwards got this issue.. i'm using 12.2 so far ok.. just that 4k i unable to run with dxva only.. (got audio) but their case was none of the vid able to play with dxva.. Ati drive quite buggy, every new catalyst come out sure got something broke lol, even it's WHQL'ed, if aint broken, dont update gpu driver For flawless Dxva playback you should read the first page, or here : http://imouto.my/watching-h264-videos-using-dxva/ If someone installed too many codecs, they will override the default h264 decoder, or user does not know how to configure. Always try to play your h264 video with wmp12 first , cause it support Dxva by default, 'cept hi10p, and check for cpu usage, if its high prolly means dxva does not work. Or try dxva checker: http://bluesky23.yu-nagi.com/en/#DXVAChecker Btw who are they?
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SUSngkhanmein	Feb 22 2012, 09:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	i read b4 that 1st & as for 2nd link i nvr view.. this guys >> http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=357876 read page 2 & 3 >> http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=358758&page=2 thanks for sharing info.. @1024kbps bro wat is ur setting for chroma upscalling, luma upscalling & luma downscalling?? This post has been edited by ngkhanmein: Feb 25 2012, 09:05 AM
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SUSErgoProxi	Mar 1 2012, 11:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Aren't I just good enough to eat? Senior Member 2,702 posts Joined: Aug 2011 From: UNKNOWN	just a quick question how to make a normal 1080p into 3d 1080p? assuming : 3d monitor(hdmi) & gt540m (gfx)
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1024kbps	Mar 2 2012, 12:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Feb 22 2012, 09:20 AM) i read b4 that 1st & as for 2nd link i nvr view.. this guys >> http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=357876 read page 2 & 3 >> http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=358758&page=2 thanks for sharing info.. @1024kbps bro wat is ur setting for chroma upscalling, luma upscalling & luma downscalling?? All use Lanczos processing, 4 taps, probably sharpest (was using the same setting on ffdshow). But i think the scaling will not be used if your video dimension is same as your monitor dimension, eg 1080p, so it's prolly useful if watching 480p or 720p videos. Added on March 2, 2012, 1:01 am QUOTE(ErgoProxi @ Mar 1 2012, 11:27 PM) just a quick question how to make a normal 1080p into 3d 1080p? assuming : 3d monitor(hdmi) & gt540m (gfx) nvidia 3d stereoscopic? never tried it before cause im using normal lcd if its really so easily convert the normal video to 3d video, some one would have added a video filter that can do that in realtime to ffmpeg or ffmpeg based video codec/filters, or pixel shader codes added to mpc-hc This post has been edited by 1024kbps: Mar 2 2012, 01:01 AM
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SUSngkhanmein	Mar 2 2012, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228&page=613 lanczos 4 taps should be avoid..
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1024kbps	Mar 2 2012, 12:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Mar 2 2012, 08:54 AM) http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228&page=613 lanczos 4 taps should be avoid.. well its the sharpest seting on ffdshow, i upscale any video to 1080p(except some super low res) to make the subtitle does not look like crap i know madvr have more better scaler, but i only use madvr cause its faster than evr-cp.
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SUSngkhanmein	Mar 2 2012, 12:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	i still v madVR.. ffdshow more suitable v dxva.. u can solve dropping frames & delay frames?
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1024kbps	Mar 2 2012, 06:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Mar 2 2012, 12:49 PM) i still v madVR.. ffdshow more suitable v dxva.. u can solve dropping frames & delay frames? Isnt that most of the Dxva decoder are the same? except Lavfilters Do you mean madvr cant render video smoothly? whats your gpu?
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SUSngkhanmein	Mar 3 2012, 09:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	lousy HD5650! after fren intro me madvr i ignored dxva.. i feel difference.
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1024kbps	Mar 3 2012, 10:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
李素裳 Senior Member 6,009 posts Joined: Feb 2007	QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Mar 3 2012, 09:46 PM) lousy HD5650! after fren intro me madvr i ignored dxva.. i feel difference. Whats the difference? need proof Madvr currently does not support Dxva, as the current Dxva need compatible video renderer to working correctly, eg EVR/CP, on Vista/7. Currently only CUDA decoder can work independently (Lavfilter and CoreAVC). I remember the mpc-hc dev said he want to make one MFT based decoder(does not rely on video renderer too.), but its long time ago already, not sure when he will finish it MadVR need main stream GPU iirc, i dont own a mid end GPU so i cant test it for you. Exclusive fullscreen/disable Aero, may solve your problem but its buggy on my side, you could try it though, if not just use normal video renderer is enough, and use it with ffdshow scaler if you have fast quadcore CPU. since most of the time you cant notice the different between two renderer
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SUSngkhanmein	Mar 3 2012, 10:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
カラカラ Karakara Senior Member 7,727 posts Joined: Jan 2010 From: Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya & Batu Pahat, Johor.	prove? i always based on feel.. alrite thanks i will tried it..
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sophialva^P	Mar 23 2020, 05:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
New Member Probation 5 posts Joined: Feb 2020	Thanks For Your Info . Its Very Helpfull
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