NVidia is panicking. What is happening now (renaming, price cut, bundling etc) is in direct response to ATI super-successful 4000 series, esp. the 4850 model. We don't see any real offer from NVidia within the next 6 mths that is able to counter ATI 4000 series.

But NVidia 9800 models at today's prices are really good. So it's a relatively good buy for those who want decent graphics below/around RM500.

hmmm so for now the ati gc 4870 performing well against nvidia then.. hmmm.. then nvidia coming out new gc end of the year then??

hell yeah im bac !!

3870x2 better than 4870 w/o AA, but with AA, 4870 beats 3870x2 if im not mistaken.

IMO, better take 4870x2

LOL..If money would have fallen from the sky, i would have opted for the 4870x2 as well

Anyway, looking into stuff, people are saying that the 4850 is way better than 3870. So, is the 4850 a worthy upgrade from 3870 or should i jump straight to 4870 instead? Looking for one that is value for money.

This post has been edited by akachester: Oct 3 2008, 06:01 PM

Yes. 4850 vs 1 3870 makes most settings playable at max.Besides Crysis.

Plus, you have a Touch Diamond and a 40D, you don't exactly look like you're lacking cash

So get 2 of them.

lol... hmmm... i now wont spend money in handphone also.. hp cant play nice graphic game.. lol.. hahahah. i rather invest in new gaming pc rig... hmm

HP is social status ma.
Ouch, off topic liao.

ikanayam and I talked about that a few weeks earlier. Like, that statement is only valid in Malaysia (of all places)


Hugs Nokia 1100. ==.

This post has been edited by X.E.D: Oct 3 2008, 07:44 PM

===no offence to all===
sometimes, i wonder why we spent some much of $$ on gaming rig.
for example, we brought PS2 at rm1k, and can last for 5 years, no issue at all except where to look for *original* game or BT it la...
for pc? within 5 year we spent how much of $$?
i guess at least rm700-900, some even more! this is for GC only...
and we need to worry about the hdd space, cpu bottleneck, driver issue, patches, crack...dingdong dingdong...
last time i used 2 Geforce 7300GT ddr3 built SLI system, cost around RM700.
after 1 year not even worth rm 400...
and most of the games not even supported SLI....
really make me sighz...
like wat bill gates said: in the future, hardware not even cost 1 dollar!
this is proven, like now i using built in intel GMA got play Warcraft smoothly... lol.... just an example though...

down't u know.................
PC is true gamers ultimate gaming machine.

ultimate visual for ultimate frame rate wit ultimate control & experience.

games originate from pc anyway.
dis is exactly y even games developer isn't making much money making pc games, pc games is here 2 stay no matter wat.
even microsoft is supporting it. "Games for Windows"

of course i know games originates from pc...
but the point is, we spent so much of money to buy those immature products and expect their support to solve our issue...
in the meantime, the value of the product keep depleting coz of new products keep coming...
and another point is, nowaday online gaming getting famous among gamer and standalone game getting less...
why we need such powerful gc while built in gc able to handle those online game?

to avoid off topic,
why 4670 comes with 128bit memory bus but beating 256bit 3850 in higher resolution & AA AF turned on?

COD4 can on9
battlefield 2142 is on9.
crysis, also on9.
team fortress 2, HL2, gears of war, WOW, c&c3..............upcoming GTA iv, RA3..................& much more..............

gaming pc is kind of passion.

so y gamers spend so much on high end pc wen dey can hav ps3 or x360?
its like asking y ATI mek expensive high end 4870x2 wen their real money making is selling main stream & mid end GC.
its just 4 the crown of coz................

This post has been edited by tech3910: Oct 3 2008, 09:56 PM

You need to be "smart" when buying PC components

People likes something new...

@bold part
there is people who play online gaming(halflife/teamfortress2/CoD4/soon-to-come GTA4/warhead/etc) at high resolution.

A mad monster GC(and other parts as well) is required to power up those games at high resolution ( >30 fps of course )

and why 4670 beats 3850 when AA/AF turned on, because their core gpu is not the same

@pikacu
could it be 4670 using 55nm tech...?
and, above mentioned game, if notmistaken those games is multiplayer game mode(online LAN), instead of MMO game...like WoW, RO..etc...
just my opinion, online game will dominating the major market in the future, as it earns money compare with standalone game.
of course, there are classic standalone games that still shining among gaming industry...eg, diablo III, Oblivion....etc
just another finding, built in gc getting faster & feature riched...this will definitely eating the pie of standalone gc market...

note: i didn't own PS2, xbox...actually i getting new gc, aiming 3850, 3870, 4670...etc
just because i felt frustrated & sad to waste money to get some immature products that will deplete...
thanks for both of ur reply...cheerz

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Added on October 3, 2008, 10:43 pmfor those who want to accquire 4670, here is the pros:
-Solid performance - similar to HD 3850-especially turn on AA & AF
-Very good price/performance ratio
-Low power consumption-no need extra power from PSU
-Low temperatures idle and load
cons:
-128bit memory bus
-price still can be lowered.

Just my opinion...

This post has been edited by woshikurt: Oct 3 2008, 10:43 PM

Both are using 55nm SOI
RV770 architecture wayy better than RV670 architecture


btw, Look at Age of Connan/guilds war

3850 is based on 55nm fabrication too.
i dun think it is fair to compare console and pc gaming.
pc gaming offers better graphics, and one can always stick to his graphics card for 5 years.
we change the graphics card as the platform is changing, like the "evolution" of direct x.
coz the underlying API is changing, to obtain a "better" image quality, a new card is introduced.

dat will nvr happen.
it won't b nice if people c MMO flooding the market.
it would b nice 2 c 1 good MMO come around every once a while.

nowadays, multilayer components is pretty much a mush hav in any games.
wats the different, on9 anyway. dun u know c&c3 is a very popular on9.
not 2 mention upcoming RA3 wit co-op.

@iostream
thanks for the info...
at least, i don see big difference between dx9 & dx10 in latest Crysis screen...feeling like NV/ATI trying to claim their's one better...deceiving consumer... XD
@tech3910
yeah, too many online game flooding in market now...
somehow, chinese standalone game getting fewer and fewer compare with last time...

take a look at the link here:
http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...ture-comparison

btw, crysis is a Dx9 game with Dx10 extension.

i believe the one who deceiving consumers is ms if Dx10 really shows no improvement over Dx9.

actually, TWIMTBP is the culprit..