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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Oct 23 2008, 05:02 PM

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Guru3d also launched their 4830 reviews. I think I'll read theirs first. They are good as long as you don't go SLI/Crossfire, cuz they don't use a bad ass processor for sli/crossfire.


EDIT:Hmmm... overclocker's choice:-
Lol, the one techpowerup is reviewing is missing 80 shaders. Funny.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4830/28.html

Now I feel like buying this one instead of 4850. 3degrees C increase for a whooping 760MHz, stock cooling, it's mine!

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viperiii
post Oct 23 2008, 06:12 PM

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the end of 4670.. ;p
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post Oct 23 2008, 06:14 PM

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The 4830 looks much tempting than 4850 since it is only slightly slower than its bigger brother.
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post Oct 23 2008, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(_707027_ @ Oct 23 2008, 04:41 PM)
i see then.
and i believes u support the red team when their struggling for the past years?  biggrin.gif
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yeah, u can say dat. my 2 previous GC b4 3870 was nvidia also.
i learn dis from watching world war documentary. support the weak side, let dem hav n nvr ending fight so u can just benefit from being the middle man. tongue.gif

btw, it seams dat 2008 really belongs 2 the reds.
evidence:
Man U -champions league, epl
kane's wrath - rise of NOD (red)
RA3 - red October(cmg soon)........ tongue.gif
ATI - kick ass 4k series.
QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 23 2008, 04:44 PM)
In that case you also need to use AMD CPU tongue.gif
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i nearly went 4 phenom wen it release but change my mind last second. now, i'm glad i din't.
i already swear my next system will b AMD but it will hav 2 wait till AMD actually came out wit a processor worth buying & also new socket.
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 23 2008, 04:52 PM)
Yeah sleep.gif
Btw..i wonder how the 5000 Series will do..The thread i might start the V1 on January,if not me other person.This thread stays till V6 i think Final le>V6
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my prediction of 5k series:
1) improved architecture on 4k
2) die shrink, more shader, cooler gpu
3) faster clock speed so it doesn't bottleneck ddr5.
QUOTE(viperiii @ Oct 23 2008, 06:12 PM)
the end of 4670.. ;p
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i dun think so.
i'm actually pretty disappointing wit 4830.
doesn't kick any ass, just a hair in front of 88/9800gt.

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post Oct 23 2008, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(viperiii @ Oct 23 2008, 06:12 PM)
the end of 4670.. ;p
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I wonder bout ur statement, haha. It's not end of the 4670 since is for budget user and low power consumption, but is end of the 9600GT or 9800GT tongue.gif
tech3910 bro, seem we have same common opinion. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 23 2008, 06:14 PM)
The 4830 looks much tempting than 4850 since it is only slightly slower than its bigger brother.
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Ya but the power consumption is almost the same with his brother 4850, so it will only tempting is the price is attractive. smile.gif
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post Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 23 2008, 06:34 PM)
i'm actually pretty disappointing wit 4830.
doesn't kick any ass, just a hair in front of 88/9800gt.
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Did you forget how easily you can OC 4830 to get the performance of a 4850?
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post Oct 23 2008, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM)
Did you forget how easily you can OC 4830 to get the performance of a 4850?
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but price wise is not much cheaper den 4850 or 88/9800gt.
dun 4get, other gc also can OC.

IMO 4830 price shud b lower.
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QUOTE(blindbox @ Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM)
Did you forget how easily you can OC 4830 to get the performance of a 4850?
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then what if 4850 oc , so that cant chase already lo... never ending story hmm.gif
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post Oct 23 2008, 08:44 PM

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IINM,some sources said RV870 has 2000 Stream Processor sweat.gif
Dont know if its true or not since AMD didnt explain much on their upcoming sleep.gif
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post Oct 23 2008, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 23 2008, 08:44 PM)
IINM,some sources said RV870 has 2000 Stream Processor sweat.gif
Dont know if its true or not since AMD didnt explain much on their upcoming sleep.gif
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i think possible on R870 not RV870.
y not? look @ the increase on 670 to 770.
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post Oct 23 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 23 2008, 08:44 PM)
IINM,some sources said RV870 has 2000 Stream Processor sweat.gif
Dont know if its true or not since AMD didnt explain much on their upcoming sleep.gif
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That's quite enormous. That will instantly kill R700(4870x2). If they can still fit that much on a small die.. ouch. I hope nvidia has a plan to go against R800 series. The customers seriously need it.
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post Oct 24 2008, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 23 2008, 08:44 PM)
IINM,some sources said RV870 has 2000 Stream Processor sweat.gif
Dont know if its true or not since AMD didnt explain much on their upcoming sleep.gif
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flex.gif flex.gif flex.gif
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post Oct 24 2008, 11:03 AM


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QUOTE(viperiii @ Oct 24 2008, 10:51 AM)
flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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can u reply a better thing instead of 3 emo?

btw .... can any of the reference 4870 reach 825 or need to flash asus bios 1st? icon_question.gif
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post Oct 24 2008, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(blindbox @ Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM)
Did you forget how easily you can OC 4830 to get the performance of a 4850?
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I'm waiting 4830 CF review. If the pricing mentioned by fellow LYN is correct (RM480~) then CF two 4830 should be faster than a single 4870 which price more or less the same.
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post Oct 24 2008, 12:19 PM

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Yea..But dont worry,once HD3870 Phased out it should replaced HD3870 price..
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post Oct 24 2008, 12:35 PM

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HD4850 is a little overhype in my opinion.
Here is some Crysis Warhead benchie that i did yesterday@4.1ghz and 740mhz/1160mhz,ATI Cat8.10,2GB Xtreem 1066mhz,434x9.5 and XP 32bit:
10/23/2008 21:47:09 - Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1440 x 900 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 19.37 Max: 39.84 Avg: 32.32

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

10/23/2008 21:52:45 - Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 2X @ Map: frost @ 0 1440 x 900 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 23.87 Max: 38.79 Avg: 31.96

One more thing,why VPU recovery will occur all out of sudden?OC unstable?But last time,i could play grid with this setting without VPU recovrry.
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post Oct 24 2008, 12:37 PM

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Yea, if VPU recover kicks in it means your GC is unstable.

GRID isn't putting as much load as Crysis onto the card which would explain why VPU recover did not occur.
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post Oct 24 2008, 02:13 PM

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hmm...always new revolution.why dont we just wait 5000 series to come out and see the performance....Maybe we see real human with the card ability...who know..that ati or nvdia have already got the tech but they just want to share it bit by bit so they can get the proftis...dont u think?
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post Oct 24 2008, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 24 2008, 11:03 AM)
can u reply a better thing instead of 3 emo?

btw .... can any of the reference 4870 reach 825 or need to flash asus bios 1st? icon_question.gif
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yes, as long u hav good cooling. y not.
mine OC @ 865.
i do recommend ASUS TOP bios coz if perform better @ the same time cooler & uses a little less power.
QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Oct 24 2008, 12:35 PM)
HD4850 is a little overhype in my opinion.
Here is some Crysis Warhead benchie that i did yesterday@4.1ghz and 740mhz/1160mhz,ATI Cat8.10,2GB Xtreem 1066mhz,434x9.5 and XP 32bit:
10/23/2008 21:47:09 - Microsoft Windows XP Professional  Service Pack 2

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 3X @ Map: ambush @ 0 1440 x 900 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 19.37 Max: 39.84 Avg: 32.32

//////////// Summary \\\\\\\\\\\\\

10/23/2008 21:52:45 - Microsoft Windows XP Professional  Service Pack 2

DirectX 9.0c ENTHUSIAST 2X @ Map: frost @ 0 1440 x 900 AA 0xx
==> Framerate [ Min: 23.87 Max: 38.79 Avg: 31.96

One more thing,why VPU recovery will occur all out of sudden?OC unstable?But last time,i could play grid with this setting without VPU recovrry.
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well, crysis is nvr been ATI games. it is heavily optimized for nvidia card.
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post Oct 24 2008, 02:24 PM


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hey tech3910 , if i flash my 4870 gs will it void warranty?

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