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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Sep 29 2008, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Sep 28 2008, 10:50 AM)
checkout techreport review, 4670 pwn 9600GSO at most cases, and yeah , cheaper too
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Cheaper there, but not here. Better buy from forumers or wait for the prices to die down. Haiz Malaysia, enough with not following amd/ati's and all other companies (gtx 280 last time soared 2.4k) price specs sad.gif .
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post Oct 10 2008, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(choyster @ Oct 9 2008, 11:24 PM)
the heat problem for 4850 still exist?
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There was no problem to begin with actually, as amd said 4850 are able to withstand such a high temperature.

I'd say 4850 is around 70~80% more powerful than 3870 and 4870 is twice the power of 3870 (100% more powerful)
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post Oct 21 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 21 2008, 12:20 PM)
I've been thinking of 4870x2 xfired (4 cores) + Geforce (whatever that supports physx) for games. Hmmm......
Can't read website, but I guess that guy had the same idea as I did. Geforce for physx, radeon for graphics. I wonder about vantage scores hahahah.
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post Oct 22 2008, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(ameque @ Oct 21 2008, 04:35 PM)
how much expected for the gc? between 4670 and 4830 any performance increase? value/performance wise?
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It's meant to be an 8800gt/9800gt(they're the same card anyway) killer. They're going to be RM 400 perhaps.
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post Oct 23 2008, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 23 2008, 01:52 AM)
wow, nice 1................

dis is great news for me............. rclxms.gif
my q6600 + 4870 is just the right combo.......... thumbup.gif

btw, for all ATI user here, there is a hotfix for far cry 2.
go get it.

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Bad news, the hotfix for far cry 2 is far from complete. Check guru3d for details. Only a crossfire profile was made (main reason why 4870x2 2GB pwned everyone at far cry 2). Check it out yourself, even at lower resolutions, gtx 260 beats 4870 by quite a big margin.

Too lazy to make a new post. I'm going to wait if I'm ever buying a 4830. Sapphire's cooler looks UGLY(not to mention I like it red better).

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post Oct 23 2008, 04:56 PM

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Let me go pm threadstarter to go put up 4830 benchies.
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post Oct 23 2008, 05:02 PM

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Guru3d also launched their 4830 reviews. I think I'll read theirs first. They are good as long as you don't go SLI/Crossfire, cuz they don't use a bad ass processor for sli/crossfire.


EDIT:Hmmm... overclocker's choice:-
Lol, the one techpowerup is reviewing is missing 80 shaders. Funny.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_4830/28.html

Now I feel like buying this one instead of 4850. 3degrees C increase for a whooping 760MHz, stock cooling, it's mine!

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post Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 23 2008, 06:34 PM)
i'm actually pretty disappointing wit 4830.
doesn't kick any ass, just a hair in front of 88/9800gt.
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Did you forget how easily you can OC 4830 to get the performance of a 4850?
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post Oct 23 2008, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Oct 23 2008, 08:44 PM)
IINM,some sources said RV870 has 2000 Stream Processor sweat.gif
Dont know if its true or not since AMD didnt explain much on their upcoming sleep.gif
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That's quite enormous. That will instantly kill R700(4870x2). If they can still fit that much on a small die.. ouch. I hope nvidia has a plan to go against R800 series. The customers seriously need it.
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post Oct 24 2008, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(tellmewhy @ Oct 24 2008, 02:24 PM)
hey tech3910 , if i flash my 4870 gs will it void warranty?
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You can always flash it back to regain the warranty brows.gif brows.gif .... I'm not sure how but it's possible I believe, I heard someone doing it by using 2 graphic cards(one for display, one for the reflash victim/broken card). Sp he managed to flash it back even if the graphic card doesn't work.
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post Oct 26 2008, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 26 2008, 11:20 AM)
nVidia: GeForce 9800GT is more powerful than Radeon HD 4830

Source
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That's from nvidia. I read on other websites, their performance are relatively the same. Plus, can 9800gt overclock to 9800gtx? 4830 can do that.
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post Oct 26 2008, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 26 2008, 02:57 PM)
yup..........the article doesn't tell the whole story.
those "chosen" example on the article r all nvidia optimized games, except for call of juarez.
all the result r taken from techpowerup review of 4830.
go techpowerup & check out the original review.
4830 is better den 88/9800gt..................not by much. just a hair ahead dat u'll barely notice.
the problem is not 4830 under performing, is the price.

as for overclocking, 4830 does inherit the heast issues from its older brother so overclocking dis card wit reference cooler wont do u much good.

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I don't know man, I see techpowerup was mad enough and overclocked their card with REFERENCE COOLER. What they got was a 3 degrees C bump(from 86 to 89) and a 4850 performance. Their card is missing 80 shaders too.

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post Oct 27 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Oct 27 2008, 04:04 PM)
have to consider the cost of importing as well, with the USD appreciating, the cost of IT equipments are rising
can already see some items increasing in price
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Yeah, it's bad times. USD is getting exp/RM is getting cheaper, so although our graphic cards are still cheaper(than US) right now, without a doubt it will increase in price. Import... import to US is more exp I think than import to malaysia.

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post Oct 31 2008, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 31 2008, 09:10 PM)
Oh, could it be they (ATI) purposely render less texture detail to make the game faster to prove DX10.1 is faster?
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If you look closely, those textures look transparent. It's more like they over-applied their optimisation instead of hiding details.
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post Nov 3 2008, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Joseph Hahn @ Nov 3 2008, 10:47 AM)
Just recently bought a Sapphire 4870x2 and coupled it with Viewsonic VX2835. I came when i played UT3. biggrin.gif
Previously used a Sapphire X1950GT with Acer AL2216WBD.
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I thought you weren't for real. Good card huh. I'm waiting for non-ref cooler (then at least can try and pwn gtx280 at games which are not crossfire optimised smile.gif )
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post Nov 4 2008, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 4 2008, 09:14 PM)
Palit Revolusi Batu-Bata (HD4870x2) :

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Added on November 4, 2008, 9:15 pmI sense 4870x2 Golden Sample coming brows.gif
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Woooo.... 3 slot, how to do quadfire la?
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post Nov 5 2008, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Nov 5 2008, 10:21 AM)
Each card 3 slot, need 4 of those @@. Super full tower + "full tower" mobo?
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2 only, ATI doesn't support 8-way crossfire. rclxub.gif
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post Nov 5 2008, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Nov 5 2008, 01:25 PM)
Yes ATi support 8 way crossfire(combined HD4870 X2 X4)...
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If you can see, a 4870x2 has only one Crossfire connector. Are you still telling me that you can combine 4 4870x2s? Plus, it has been explicitly mentioned by AMD that CFX is supported up to 4 graphic cores only.

Anyway, only a few mobos can support that 3 slot card(usually those with 2 graphic card slot). Definitely not most x58, they usually do their arrangement like this. I do see x48s that can handle 2 of Revolution R700 biggrin.gif (like DFI's).

slot(either top or bottom)
slot
pci-e x16
slot
pci-ex16
slot
pci-ex16
slot (either top or bottom)

@chanws8: How the hell does 3 slot means more power consumption? It is just an addition of fan..
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post Nov 6 2008, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(minghao @ Nov 6 2008, 12:20 AM)
Have to see your refference mobo design cuz the NB may block it also.Or even PCI slots also.


Added on November 6, 2008, 12:23 amMostly CF or SLI fella will prefer open case right?So horizontally pour the mobo wont need clip d.
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Think about centre of gravity.
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post Nov 6 2008, 11:38 PM

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Gainward's version of Revolution R700(that really big 3 slot cooler R700 card).


http://en.expreview.com/2008/11/05/gainwar....html#more-1224

I really wish Palit's Revolution R700 reaches malaysian shores instead of gainward's. Gainward's looks horrible, bad paintjob.

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