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 AMD/ATi HD 4000 Series Discussion V4, Just added: HD4830 benches!

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post Sep 14 2008, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 14 2008, 09:25 AM)
palit 9600GT 512MB about RM370.
gainward 3870 512MB RM350.
sapphire 4670 RM335??????
which one to buy? looks like 9600GT is a better buy.
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Pal u see the 3870 price RM350 from PC Zone? i clarify with them oledi, they wrong post the price. The best price they can give me is RM430, so i think NetRaid mentioned the price RM420 for the Gainward is the cheaper.
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post Sep 15 2008, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Sep 14 2008, 07:57 PM)
previoulsy it was RM350.
the new pricelist says RM340. is pczone having typo again? or it is the price when bundle with a pc?

anyway, i'm waiting for a powercolor HD4670. if it's below RM300, i'll grab it.

are u guys saying that palit 9600GT is having lots of trouble?
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Ya clarify with them already, really is typo (even they put the pic and price in the brochure shakehead.gif). Cos i gonna grab it since so cheap, luckily i make a call to them 1st since i dun trust the price. Now also targeting the 4670 since this power comsuption but i heard that the price is high and no worth now, sapphire 4670 need RM350+-. sweat.gif

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post Sep 15 2008, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(diadokmai @ Sep 14 2008, 11:34 PM)
aiya... yawn.gif so i need to up my budget la..mybe after raya the price will drop?  shakehead.gif

Did 330-350 for HIS HD4670 iceq-Turbo is reasonable right? coz d cooling system is great.? no? What brand gfx that provide the best default cooling system.?


Added on September 14, 2008, 11:37 pmUp2 n Down  flex.gif
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I will be no suprise if the HIS HD4670 iceq-Turbo is exceeding RM400 since the normal 1 now oledi RM350+-, so for the OC version should be more of that.

QUOTE(diadokmai @ Sep 15 2008, 12:37 AM)
d price not stable yet... i rather buy 3850 rather than 4760.haiya!!.. doh.gif
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Haha, me also i nthe same situation, a lot of fren here suggest me to buy the 3870 instead of 4670. Imho, even if 128 bit different but it should on par or lose a bit to the 3850 in certain performance.

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post Sep 15 2008, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(NetRaid @ Sep 15 2008, 01:00 AM)
From the word of ATI directly, 4600 series NOT meant to compete with 3800 series. They will lose out in high res settings and games that require a lot of mem transfer, or when using large LCD in high res.

4600 series objective is to be the best mainstream GC, while 3800 series is the best mid range GC. With the 3850 and 3870 prices today, it's super good buy.

Clearer now?
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Ya totally agree what you said and is true than 128 bit can't compete with 256 bit, the only point that can make the 4670 outstanding is the power usage and this cost effective (but which i din see in the local market here doh.gif). Maybe time will tell, anyway i should be go low yat 1 round n do some survey. laugh.gif

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post Sep 15 2008, 04:27 PM

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Anyway, no more news for the HD4670 cards? I know sapphire 1 out for local market already, how bout others brand? And what is the price?

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post Sep 16 2008, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Sep 16 2008, 12:55 AM)
gainward 4670 got all the port........... thumbup.gif
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YA just saw from lehteck post, the 4670 have a lot port, very nice just havent reach M'sia. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/783556/+440 rclxms.gif
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post Sep 17 2008, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(pcdlsy @ Sep 17 2008, 06:30 PM)
oic..
since many other company's 4670 dun hv vga port....any solution if i have only vga port and not gotta to buy gainward 4670?
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U can have the dvi to vga port convertor if you wanna display to the vga port monitor. Some of the product is supplied it as well in a package, my current HIS 1600XT got include 2 of it.
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post Sep 17 2008, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Sep 17 2008, 06:46 PM)
U can buy a dvi-to-vga port... which cost more or less rm 15-20... it act as a converter... cause i'm having the problem too... XD... using readon HD4670... cause large fans like sapphire is not necessary since it consume less power and the temp is round 60c at peak
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Pal, u have bought the HD4670? drool.gif So how's it, so far so good? Just give some reviews since no so many ppl had bought it, thanks.
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post Sep 17 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Sep 17 2008, 10:09 PM)
crysis full detail as in MAXIMUM? shocking.gif
no FPS drop?
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If really no FPS drop then i really suprise and can't wait for my new baby arrive. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(cyew86 @ Sep 17 2008, 10:53 PM)
for rm29 difference i'd rather stick with ALL IT though since it is nearer to my place tongue.gif but is it still a premium price? i read that the price should be below RM300
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If the price is RM349 for the normal 4670, why not get the HIS HD4670 turbo at the price RM365 from zhen^wei. hmm.gif Since that is the overclocked version i believe will have more better performance.

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post Sep 17 2008, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Sep 17 2008, 11:38 PM)
depends on my CRT tongue.gif only using 17" CRT so there is no need for me to get a high end card, HD4670 is a good choice smile.gif
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Then depend of my LCD, 4670 might not a good choice for me. sad.gif cry.gif
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post Sep 18 2008, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Sep 18 2008, 12:17 AM)
can go buy in Ikano when lepak there, they have a new branch there biggrin.gif
yeah, but sometimes hard to find parking space there also
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If you are allIT member, u can earn point and free 1 hour packing also at low yat. Dunno applicable in the Ikano branch or not. smile.gif
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post Sep 21 2008, 12:21 PM

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Hi all, so how is the situation now? Make me not confident for the 4670 card now. shakehead.gif
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post Sep 27 2008, 05:38 PM

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Just for sharing since found the review about HIS 4670 Turbo in techPowerUp. It's test with a lot recent game, include crysis as well. Do not whether is accurate or good review, but just read for reference. biggrin.gif

HIS HD 4670 IceQ Turbo 512 MB
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post Sep 29 2008, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(kenny79 @ Sep 28 2008, 09:40 PM)
i own a acbel 450W i thinkd psu already arent is a isue about d elec bill i think also none isue since my will just on d pc for 2-4 hour/days i think also none isue right smile.gif im not using d pc for BT ... if BT i stil got a SEMpron 2500+  icon_rolleyes.gif  wink.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Now just notice that u have the same PSU that i have, no problem for the card that you wanna choose. Just depend on the resolution, high then got 256 bit (3850), low then go 128 bit (4670). Anyway, 9600GT is the better 1 compare to both but also expensive in the range.
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post Sep 29 2008, 01:07 AM

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Recently do some google and see a lot NVIDIA PhysX acticle, so wondering whether this is the NVIDIA final weapon to gain back the market? hmm.gif
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post Oct 1 2008, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(Lacus @ Sep 30 2008, 07:28 PM)
even if can, the cable to long will result in delay in getting the video from the gpu/pc. so totally not recommended bro, +dmc4, looks damn good on  tv thumbup.gif although i would recommend using hdmi smile.gif window output setting only need to change if using Vista if not mistaken.
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Ya agree it will result delay, try using 10 meter long DVI cable (maybe more longer rolleyes.gif ) before. There's lack about few second to transfer the frame to the far away LCD monitor, but still in acceptable range.
DMC4 really nice for playing if able play on large TV, plus if you have the xbox controller. Haha i just try it on my 24 inch LCD with the xbox wireless controller, feeling like play xbox tongue.gif lotiman2003 bro, you should try the controller if u play on TV smile.gif


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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 1 2008, 10:19 AM)
Thx for the reply, I was planning to buy a USB adapter for my PS2 dual shock 2 controller to play games. (But not sure whether it is supported in Vista)
Welcome pal, you also reply and help me a lot last time. smile.gif PS2 dual shock 2 controller from PS also can plug n play by using the USA adapter? Anyway i only know for xbox controller is compatible and able to use for those games got label games for PC.
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post Oct 2 2008, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(spideysam @ Oct 2 2008, 07:38 PM)
ooo... hmmm 4830 and 4850 no difference in proccesing graphic??? lol then the 4870 x 2 in 30 inch lcd also can... lol... i think 24 inch big enough also.. lol..
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So far is know that HD4830 have 640 stream processors instead of the HD4850 800 stream processors, but maybe the processor clock and memory will be cut down since it is different class compare HD4850, havent know yet must wait the official announce. hmm.gif

The HD4830 still require the 6 pin 75 watt as the external power source, that's mean the power for the PCI-E (150watt) is not enough to support it. IMHO, if the price is RM500 or more, i will go for HD4850GS for more performance per value. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(viperiii @ Oct 2 2008, 09:10 PM)
ok let wait and see how..  drool.gif
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Haha sure pal, hope this HD4830 can impress me since i might upgrade from my HD4670. And it will be nice if it dun need so many juice draw out from PSU, but still a lot of research and review after release that need to go thru before we conclude anything ya smile.gif
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Oct 2 2008, 09:50 PM)
so fast upgrade?
i tough u just got ur 4670?........ biggrin.gif
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Haha actually so far so good for my HIS HD4670 turbo card, i play DMC4 at high setting for my 24 inch still able to play it well. I said might but still not soon la, consider the price 1st. since my hometown pc can't play any game, so might consider place my 4670 to my hometown rig then i will upgrade lol. tongue.gif

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