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CargoCult
post Nov 25 2010, 02:07 PM

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Can anyone give me the lowdown on the black metal scene here in Malaysia? I read an article which said that it was banned and that Mayhem were turned away from performing. However, it was written a long time ago. Is it still in effect? are black metal bands banned from performing/recording?

One of my favorite black metal songs/bands


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post Nov 25 2010, 02:32 PM

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Performing, yeah. The ruling is still in effect sadly. But I don't know about recording since they would need to be in the underground scene to do so. No publicly released albums that's for sure.
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post Nov 25 2010, 02:55 PM

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One of the articles I read said that the authorities were concerned about black metal 'which found it's start with Metallica in the 80s'

lol, at least know what you're arguing about if you want to ban something.

Can I ask, is the black metal here, anti-Islam? like similarly in Europe it's (generally) anti-Christianity.
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post Nov 25 2010, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(CargoCult @ Nov 25 2010, 02:55 PM)
One of the articles I read said that the authorities were concerned about black metal 'which found it's start with Metallica in the 80s'

lol, at least know what you're arguing about if you want to ban something.

Can I ask, is the black metal here, anti-Islam? like similarly in Europe it's (generally) anti-Christianity.
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yup.. they do.. in europe they burn bible.. in here they burn quran instead..

bodo punye anak melayu..
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post Nov 25 2010, 03:22 PM

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In Europe you can burn a bible and nothing will happen to you, religion is questioned, belittled and ridiculed on a daily basis.

Here and Asia in general, that's not the case. It's still a very religiously conservative country, publicly speaking against religion is pretty much a no no (correct me if I'm wrong) so I expect, that not only would the authorities be onto you but also irate Muslims baying for blood. Those bands are brave souls.

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post Nov 25 2010, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(CargoCult @ Nov 25 2010, 03:22 PM)
In Europe you can burn a bible and nothing will happen to you, religion is questioned, belittled and ridiculed on a daily basis.

Here and Asia in general, that's not the case. It's still a very religiously conservative country, publicly speaking against religion is pretty much a no no (correct me if I'm wrong) so I expect, that not only would the authorities be onto you but also irate Muslims baying for blood. Those bands are brave souls.
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that don justify why people should condemned those who believe in religion..

if they don believe it.. its their choice..
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post Nov 25 2010, 03:48 PM

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Actly, if the kids here understood what really was going in Black Metal, maybe they won't burn the Qurans. heck i actually would believe that they hold really close to it.

But yeah, the stupid thing with the metallica issue, Black METAL. METALlica. Sad ain't it?
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Yes, it's their choice. Also their choice to listen and make any music they want.

Anyway, I'm not sure where you came up with that statement. Nowhere in my paragraph did I reference anything regarding that. All I said was that they are brave, as people here don't take kindly to anti-religion statements/actions.


Added on November 25, 2010, 3:55 pm
QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 25 2010, 03:48 PM)
Actly, if the kids here understood what really was going in Black Metal, maybe they won't burn the Qurans. heck i actually would believe that they hold really close to it.

But yeah, the stupid thing with the metallica issue, Black METAL. METALlica. Sad ain't it?
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Care to expand on this? I'm not sure I follow.

Also, it should be said, being anti-religion is not a pre-requisite for liking black metal. There are many followers of religion who just like it for the music, and there are also bands who don't mention anything about religion. At the end of the day, it is just a style of music, just so happens, quite a fair bit of it has anti-religious sentiments.

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i like satyricon. i love God. haha..
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QUOTE(CargoCult @ Nov 25 2010, 03:49 PM)
Yes, it's their choice. Also their choice to listen and make any music they want.

Anyway, I'm not sure where you came up with that statement. Nowhere in my paragraph did I reference anything regarding that. All I said was that they are brave, as people here don't take kindly to anti-religion statements/actions.


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Care to expand on this? I'm not sure I follow.

Also, it should be said, being anti-religion is not a pre-requisite for liking black metal. There are many followers of religion who just like it for the music, and there are also bands who don't mention anything about religion. At the end of the day, it is just a style of music, just so happens, quite a fair bit of it has anti-religious sentiments.
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it came from local news coverage who seams to put everything that seams fit rather than actual facts..


Added on November 25, 2010, 4:06 pm
QUOTE(peeps @ Nov 25 2010, 04:02 PM)
i like satyricon. i love God. haha..
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i listen to galneryus everyday.. and i still pray like any normal muslim.. smile.gif

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post Nov 25 2010, 04:53 PM

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For me, if you really understand something, you won't blindly something that's against it. For example, could be a biased one, i am quite religious in my own way (muslim), but I enjoy metal songs. Regardless of its genre in Metal.

its more of a problem of blindly doing things.
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QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Nov 25 2010, 04:53 PM)
For me, if you really understand something, you won't blindly something that's against it. For example, could be a biased one, i am quite religious in my own way (muslim), but I enjoy metal songs. Regardless of its genre in Metal.

its more of a problem of blindly doing things.
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funneh

we, metal community are overrated for violence and negativity..

while negativity among mainstream music often downplayed by mass media..

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Exactly. I still remember how people (who i know) looked down on Metallica's Master of Puppets when the song is actually about a drug user and how we should break free.

so yeah, funneh.
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it is always like that. Media judge people by it cover. You can wear sexy outfit and perform in stage and tv and appear as cover page in entertainment magazine or mainstream media, but you can't appear with spike, leather jacket, bullet belt, tight denim, skull ring, leather boot and Farah Fawcett hairstyle.
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QUOTE(avantasia @ Nov 25 2010, 11:46 AM)
EPICA - The Classical Conspiracy i listen the most!!!!
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heheh nice to know that there are other people who listens to this kind of music....
very few of us malaysian enjoy it, metal in general smile.gif

when i play my music in the car, people will say " lagu ape ko dengar ni? pening kepale aku....." LOL
i dun giv a damn cuz 1st) its my car; and 2nd) i LOVE it laugh.gif


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post Nov 25 2010, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(ezouL87 @ Nov 25 2010, 08:30 PM)
heheh nice to know that there are other people who listens to this kind of music....
very few of us malaysian enjoy it, metal in general  smile.gif

when i play my music in the car, people will say " lagu ape ko dengar ni? pening kepale aku....." LOL
i dun giv a damn cuz 1st) its my car; and 2nd) i LOVE it    laugh.gif
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never heard of it.. but opening 4shared right now.. brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(sleep_snore @ Nov 25 2010, 04:05 PM)
it came from local news coverage who seams to put everything that seams fit rather than actual facts..


Added on November 25, 2010, 4:06 pm

i listen to galneryus everyday.. and i still pray like any normal muslim..  smile.gif
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Galneryus is not black metal laugh.gif

Yeah those kids think that listening to black metal they have to worship satan or shit like that... Although I stop listening to black metal stuff more to death metal, those who like them only listening to the music not because they worship satan. Im sure those kids are just listening to it to be cool and dont really enjoy the music

Black metal bands dont even want to perform here or shit because the supporters are not large enough.. Not worth to fly all the way from US/Europe to perform for a crowd of 100 people
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 26 2010, 10:37 AM)
Galneryus is not black metal laugh.gif

Yeah those kids think that listening to black metal they have to worship satan or shit like that... Although I stop listening to black metal stuff more to death metal, those who like them only listening to the music not because they worship satan. Im sure those kids are just listening to it to be cool and dont really enjoy the music

Black metal bands dont even want to perform here or shit because the supporters are not large enough.. Not worth to fly all the way from US/Europe to perform for a crowd of 100 people
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no point flying here anyway. they deport your ass back where u came from! huhuhahahaha...
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post Nov 26 2010, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 26 2010, 10:37 AM)
Galneryus is not black metal laugh.gif

Yeah those kids think that listening to black metal they have to worship satan or shit like that... Although I stop listening to black metal stuff more to death metal, those who like them only listening to the music not because they worship satan. Im sure those kids are just listening to it to be cool and dont really enjoy the music

Black metal bands dont even want to perform here or shit because the supporters are not large enough.. Not worth to fly all the way from US/Europe to perform for a crowd of 100 people
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of cause i know that.. nod.gif

i find it weird watching a woman with a goat head resembling u know what in Everlasting MV.. hmm.gif

it was unnecessary element.. doh.gif

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post Nov 26 2010, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Nov 26 2010, 10:37 AM)
Galneryus is not black metal laugh.gif

Yeah those kids think that listening to black metal they have to worship satan or shit like that... Although I stop listening to black metal stuff more to death metal, those who like them only listening to the music not because they worship satan. Im sure those kids are just listening to it to be cool and dont really enjoy the music

Black metal bands dont even want to perform here or shit because the supporters are not large enough.. Not worth to fly all the way from US/Europe to perform for a crowd of 100 people
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Very few Black metal bands actually worship Satan, anyway. They use Satan as a symbol, a metaphor against religion. They are anti-religion. They don't believe in a God or a Devil. It's only symbolism. Satanism has two branches. Lavayan Satanism (symbolic, the worship of self. Forms the vast majority of proclaimed [I]Satantists) and Theistic Satanism (The worship of the character Satan as portrayed in Abrahamic texts, accounts for a very small amount) The vast majority of Black Metal fans who call themselves Satanists, I expect fall into the symbolic worshipers.


Added on November 26, 2010, 2:09 pm
QUOTE(ezouL87 @ Nov 25 2010, 08:30 PM)
heheh nice to know that there are other people who listens to this kind of music....
very few of us malaysian enjoy it, metal in general  smile.gif

when i play my music in the car, people will say " lagu ape ko dengar ni? pening kepale aku....." LOL
i dun giv a damn cuz 1st) its my car; and 2nd) i LOVE it    laugh.gif
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Metal and heavy guitar driven music really seems to be the last truly underground music. I am a huge music fan, I'll play everything from Disco to Drum n Bass to Hip Hop to Country to Acoustic, but the moment I put on anything like Punk or Metal, people will be saying, 'turn that shit off'. Someone said to me - I hate that hip hop you play, but I can at least bare it, that metal stuff you play is too loud...and then they follow up with, the obligatory comment...'all they do is scream'

In a way, I like that I listen to this rebellious music, that most people just don't like or understand.

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