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post Oct 25 2020, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Oct 25 2020, 11:12 AM)
Anyone heard of winter brand ceiling fan? I have this ceiling fan installed in my house around 10 years ago. It is still functioning but when I turn the speed to mid, it is like at low speed forever. Any recommendation for service as I could not trace any information on Winter brand ceiling fan. Thanks
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Can change to another regulator (if its regulator type).
The good thing about regulator box it costs around 30 bucks only. The fan motor assuming no serious noise or bearing failure can last 30 years (we had a national one since 1987 until we sold the place in 2010)
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post Oct 25 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 25 2020, 12:16 PM)
Can change to another regulator (if its regulator type).
The good thing about regulator box it costs around 30 bucks only. The fan motor assuming no serious noise or bearing failure can last 30 years (we had a national one since 1987 until we sold the place in 2010)
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Hi, my fan is with remote control. I'm not sure what's the problem...
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post Oct 25 2020, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(hurtedheart @ Oct 25 2020, 12:21 PM)
Hi, my fan is with remote control. I'm not sure what's the problem...
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Capacitor on the PCB is on its way out.

You can try removing the PCB and check with multimeter, likely the capacitor value change a lot from rated spec..like it said 2uF but if its failing maybe it still can work at 0.5uF but the design is for it to output 2uF..So this cause the fan to have irregular power supplied to the motor. Its like lazy young people walk half step half step to work that even an 80 year old grandparent can overtake them.


Ideally change all the caps according to the same rating ones (uF)
Since its about 10 years might as well change all 1 shot, save the hassle to order one by one.

https://shopee.com.my/CBB61-BM-Capacitor-ta...4603.3151364841

If you got time and can go jalan pasar can narrow down on 105C type capacitor, those last better than the normal 70C temp rated ones

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post Nov 5 2020, 12:40 AM

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Fan hunting for my house... been looking at the usual dependable Panasonic/KDK...

Then came across Aeratron... fuyoh very chio... so decided to get 2 for the living and dining room.

So doing some research before dropping 3k++ on 2 fan...

Looks like Aeratron QC/dependability is really not up to mark... so many complaints about the electronics side of the fan..

ANyone here can give some feedback?
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post Nov 5 2020, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 5 2020, 12:40 AM)
Fan hunting for my house... been looking at the usual dependable Panasonic/KDK...

Then came across Aeratron... fuyoh very chio... so decided to get 2 for the living and dining room.

So doing some research before dropping 3k++ on 2 fan...

Looks like Aeratron QC/dependability is really not up to mark... so many complaints about the electronics side of the fan..

ANyone here can give some feedback?
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Based on the spec sheet the two smaller sizes' cfm is even less than my windless wonder. The biggest size one cfm is good. However, I would rethink based on the cost as 3k can get you more aircon units than 2 atas fans biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2020, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 5 2020, 12:40 AM)
Fan hunting for my house... been looking at the usual dependable Panasonic/KDK...

Then came across Aeratron... fuyoh very chio... so decided to get 2 for the living and dining room.

So doing some research before dropping 3k++ on 2 fan...

Looks like Aeratron QC/dependability is really not up to mark... so many complaints about the electronics side of the fan..

ANyone here can give some feedback?
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Look for DC fan. DC fan mostly are higher range in all their model.
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post Nov 8 2020, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 5 2020, 11:16 AM)
Look for DC fan. DC fan mostly are higher range in all their model.
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DC for Aeratron?

Aeratron all DC de
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post Nov 8 2020, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 5 2020, 12:47 AM)
Based on the spec sheet the two smaller sizes' cfm is even less than my windless wonder. The biggest size one cfm is good. However, I would rethink based on the cost as 3k can get you more aircon units than 2 atas fans biggrin.gif
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Price of the aircon have never been an issue.. turning it on 12 hours a day (which i can do wit a fan) will be an issue....

So the atas fan serves my purpose better...
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 8 2020, 02:57 AM)
Price of the aircon have never been an issue.. turning it on 12 hours a day (which i can do wit a fan) will be an issue....

So the atas fan serves my purpose better...
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There is one forumer trying to sell his 'special fan' or what he called 'Circulating Fan'. His claimed .... it works better than any fan and saves electricity.
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I want to buy 3 ac and 1 dc KDK fan


I am in dilemma either to choose K14XZ or K14YZ (is there any difference?)

How about DC KDK fan

KDK Kaze or KDK Sensa 4 or KDK Sensa 5?
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 5 2020, 12:40 AM)
Fan hunting for my house... been looking at the usual dependable Panasonic/KDK...

Then came across Aeratron... fuyoh very chio... so decided to get 2 for the living and dining room.

So doing some research before dropping 3k++ on 2 fan...

Looks like Aeratron QC/dependability is really not up to mark... so many complaints about the electronics side of the fan..

ANyone here can give some feedback?
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Aeratron is from nsb?

I have the fino 2 and b fan... They are well built and function as they should...

How long they last..i have no idea... Mine are 1 years old
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post Nov 16 2020, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 5 2020, 12:40 AM)
Fan hunting for my house... been looking at the usual dependable Panasonic/KDK...

Then came across Aeratron... fuyoh very chio... so decided to get 2 for the living and dining room.

So doing some research before dropping 3k++ on 2 fan...

Looks like Aeratron QC/dependability is really not up to mark... so many complaints about the electronics side of the fan..

ANyone here can give some feedback?
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I think aeratron got fake one. I read in SG forum, most who complained actually bought the fake ones.
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post Nov 16 2020, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Nov 15 2020, 08:02 PM)
I want to buy 3 ac and 1 dc KDK fan
I am in dilemma either to choose K14XZ or K14YZ (is there any difference?)

How about DC KDK fan

KDK Kaze or KDK Sensa 4 or KDK Sensa 5?
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K14XZ or K14YZ is just cosmetic 4 or 5 blade. No yuragi. Standard blade only.
If got budget get the V touch Jr instead, the blade design produce better wind. The place where u want a prettier fan can put Sensa 4.

KDK Kaze compare with KDK Sensa 5. Size is huge 60" so wind very good. But your mounting clearance must be enough to support 150cm (60" fan). Some developer assume you need to put full height cabinet in all rooms and as such the clearance only ngam for 140cm fan, 150cm one will dig a trench into the wall. Kaze should be super atas model. Sensa 5 has everything you need I guess.

KDK Sensa 4 atas model than the V touch Jr (4 blades and 140cm for both). Sensa 4 more gear in the gearbox (9 vs 5 spd) and DC motor. Both got yuragi. Both also function well.

I would analogy them as:
the cheap 3 blade regulator: old 1970 mustang. yes still carburetor and look outdated but wind damn good because of the 60" 150cm
the standard remote 4 blade K14XZ or YZ: Iswara 1.3 (the model before BLM)
the vtouch jr: 2003 camry 2.4 (exceeds normal use expectation just that it has outdated 4AT gearbox, most atas 140cm fan that still have AC motor)
the sensa 4: E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid (pretty and bling bling DC motor)
the kaze or other stuff: 2020 AMG tuned merc GT 63S (modern fast ride with price to match)

IMO, the vtouch jr shud be the minimum benchmark standard. Beyond the sensa is rather overkill.

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post Nov 16 2020, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 16 2020, 01:01 AM)
K14XZ or K14YZ is just cosmetic 4 or 5 blade. No yuragi. Standard blade only.
If got budget get the V touch Jr instead, the blade design produce better wind. The place where u want a prettier fan can put Sensa 4.

KDK Kaze compare with KDK Sensa 5. Size is huge 60" so wind very good. But your mounting clearance must be enough to support 150cm (60" fan). Some developer assume you need to put full height cabinet in all rooms and as such the clearance only ngam for 140cm fan, 150cm one will dig a trench into the wall. Kaze should be super atas model. Sensa 5 has everything you need I guess.

KDK Sensa 4 atas model than the V touch Jr (4 blades and 140cm for both). Sensa 4 more gear in the gearbox (9 vs 5 spd) and DC motor. Both got yuragi. Both also function well.

I would analogy them as:
the cheap 3 blade regulator: old 1970 mustang. yes still carburetor and look outdated but wind damn good because of the 60" 150cm
the standard remote 4 blade K14XZ or YZ: Iswara 1.3 (the model before BLM)
the vtouch jr: 2003 camry 2.4 (exceeds normal use expectation just that it has outdated 4AT gearbox, most atas 140cm fan that still have AC motor)
the sensa 4: E 300 BlueTEC Hybrid (pretty and bling bling DC motor)
the kaze or other stuff: 2020 AMG tuned merc GT 63S (modern fast ride with price to match)

IMO, the vtouch jr shud be the minimum benchmark standard. Beyond the sensa is rather overkill.
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sorry bro it is a bit confuse

What is yuragi???

Why V touch jr and V touch energy rating is 2 stars only???

user posted image - V touch Jr Energy Rating

user posted image - V touch Energy Rating


If I am staying in condo, the height from tiles to ceiling is 9.5 ft , which one is better???



"KDK Kaze compare with KDK Sensa 5. Size is huge 60" so wind very good. But your mounting clearance must be enough to support 150cm (60" fan). "

The mounting is included right when buy the fan????



May I know which fan u used for your house?

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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Nov 16 2020, 07:32 AM)
sorry bro it is a bit confuse

What is yuragi???

Why V touch jr and V touch energy rating is 2 stars only???

user posted image - V touch Jr Energy Rating

user posted image - V touch Energy Rating
If I am staying in condo, the height from tiles to ceiling is 9.5 ft , which one is better???
"KDK Kaze compare with KDK Sensa 5. Size is huge 60" so wind very good. But your mounting clearance must be enough to support 150cm (60" fan). "

The mounting is included right when buy the fan????
May I know which fan u used for your house?
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Yuragi is something like a LRT feeder bus speed. Sometimes fast. sometimes slow. To give the sea breeze feels, rather than a constant speed all the time like a blender, this makes it nicer feeling.

Because Vtouch still using AC motor. You can calculate but I think its within 7-10 years ROI at least if you compare the electric savings. For small wattage item the wastage is like how a badly abused kancil running with dirty air filter also will take quite a while to catch up to a well maintained camry or accord consumption..not that significant. But the motor is properly sized (powerful enough) that if u put tissue paper on the table it will confirm fly off. Windless wonder fans about 300 bucks range has very small "efficient" 5* motor but like the name says its windless, that tissue paper will remain there and won't even fly off.

Mounting for fan hook all included in the box. The fan hook is supposed to be there on your ceiling laugh.gif
The exception: for baby fan those not using fan hook one but 4 screw/sleeve anchor mounting points needed on the ceiling. But you're not looking at those so no need to worry.

Tools to install (PH2 plus screwdriver, test pen, pliers, spanners I forgot is either 12/13 or 13/14 because KDK one set pana one set one. Better u just buy one of each 12 13 14mm china one 2 bucks each je).
Since already buying the 12 13 14, can add in a 10mm spanner (not needed for fan) but its common size if you change car battery this is useful.

9.5ft sounds about normal condo height for newer condos.

In my parents place also condo, I use:
New Sensa 4 (current model) in living room of old 1995 condo
Clearance stock (new unit without warranty) 2014 previous model of Sensa 4 5-speed in smallest room of old 1995 condo
2014 model Bayu 4 is good in bedroom. But the quality of new unit really WINDLESS wonder.

And for my own place (rumaweep) with 9.5 or 10 ft ceiling:
Vtouch Jr for living room and bedroom
2019 Windless wonder Bayoo 4 for smallest room

What I meant by mounting clearance is that from the fan hook you must have enough space for the fan to turn and not hit your curtains/wall.



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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 16 2020, 10:06 PM)
Yuragi is something like a LRT feeder bus speed. Sometimes fast. sometimes slow. To give the sea breeze feels, rather than a constant speed all the time like a blender, this makes it nicer feeling.

Because Vtouch still using AC motor. You can calculate but I think its within 7-10 years ROI at least if you compare the electric savings. For small wattage item the wastage is like how a badly abused kancil running with dirty air filter also will take quite a while to catch up to a well maintained camry or accord consumption..not that significant. But the motor is properly sized (powerful enough) that if u put tissue paper on the table it will confirm fly off. Windless wonder fans about 300 bucks range has very small "efficient" 5* motor but like the name says its windless, that tissue paper will remain there and won't even fly off.

Mounting for fan hook all included in the box. The fan hook is supposed to be there on your ceiling  laugh.gif
The exception: for baby fan those not using fan hook one but 4 screw/sleeve anchor mounting points needed on the ceiling. But you're not looking at those so no need to worry.

Tools to install (PH2 plus screwdriver, test pen, pliers, spanners I forgot is either 12/13 or 13/14 because KDK one set pana one set one. Better u just buy one of each 12 13 14mm china one 2 bucks each je).
Since already buying the 12 13 14, can add in a 10mm spanner (not needed for fan) but its common size if you change car battery this is useful.

9.5ft sounds about normal condo height for newer condos.

In my parents place also condo, I use:
New Sensa 4 (current model) in living room of old 1995 condo
Clearance stock (new unit without warranty) 2014 previous model of Sensa 4 5-speed in smallest room of old 1995 condo
2014 model Bayu 4 is good in bedroom. But the quality of new unit really WINDLESS wonder.

And for my own place (rumaweep) with 9.5 or 10 ft ceiling:
Vtouch Jr for living room and bedroom
2019 Windless wonder Bayoo 4 for smallest room

What I meant by mounting clearance is that from the fan hook you must have enough space for the fan to turn and not hit your curtains/wall.
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so your conclusion better I choose 140 cm fan instead of 150 cm fan because fan hook will scrape one line into my wall if clearance not enough?
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QUOTE(shebbycs @ Nov 22 2020, 09:26 PM)
so your conclusion better I choose 140 cm fan instead of 150 cm fan because fan hook will scrape one line into my wall if clearance not enough?
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You need to measure the available radius from hook to the wall and budget in some space for the obstacles such as:
curtain rail (if any) or
will the fan block where the ceiling light will be positioned (to avoid disco effect) or
full height wardrobe (if any);
according to your unit layout and the actual fan hook position.

Generally 140cm fan will almost always fit, 150cm fan need to confirm the space.
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hello, any ceiling fan recommendation for living hall of 15ft width, 11ft length and 11ft height?

Using KDK Sensa 5 60'' fan now but the wind is merely limited to the area right below the fan.
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Get DC fan to save electric bill.
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Is this Alpha brand fan good? Thinking of getting one for living room one for dining room. Thanks. https://shopee.com.my/ALPHA-Alkova-AXIS-56-...3450.6238682866

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