i've installed 2 Panasonic Inverter aircons, one 2hp for my living room, and another 1hp for my parents room. The 2hp one is the newer Econavi model.

Haven't really tried it out yet as my house is very dusty from kitchen cabinet installation, but it looks really nice. paid the extra for Inverter models as I preferred the looks, won't ever recoup the extra costs from energy savings as I won't be using it that often. at least the gas is more environmentally friendly...

Sometimes using inverter and new gas air-cond is about environmental issue, which cannot be counted by $$.

hi bro, mind to share the price?
bcoz i also looking for pana air con too
thx

erm...how do u know that 1hp is not enough for 1hp? btw, do u have a formula for that, i'm eager to know as well.......erm....actually we're not first world country btw. if u see our mentality...i would say we're still in between. yeah, we have internet but how sure are we that the said things are good? advertisement or just hearsay......or do we need that? does the price+service justify? i guess u're an inverter guy so...........i dont mind hearing from u if u have the 'experience'....

i got the 2hp for 2.6k including installation from my office aircon installer. i didn't compare pricing, so i don't know whether its cheap/exp or not - just that he did the aircon piping for my entire house, so i trust his installation capabilities and service.

i got the 1hp separately from a friend because he bought extra, so just got my installer to install it as well.

my installer told me he is clearing stock for 1hp units, so is about rm100 cheaper than normal price

I only know there is a standard rule of word (among the installer)
1 HP is for 12 x 12 feet room.

But actual fact is all about BTU of the air-cond as different brand of air-cond deliver different BTU despite all are rated at 1HP.

BTU required = 12 x 12 x (60~80) (factor which can be varied due to room condition, like insulation, people etc, poor insulation mean higher number, just a rough guess/estimate)

If we take 60.
Then the room require 12 x 12 x 60 = 8640 BTU.

Most 1 HP has no problem to have this BTU.

cherroy, thanks for the explanation, appreciate it....yeah, my room wasnt that big, so a 1hp is more than sufficient since the wardrobe took a chunk of the room. just that currently i'm still in between york or pana and normal or inverter......but i think have to see my pocket. thanks

if 16X30,how much hp ineed for my room??

http://www.inspectapedia.com/aircond/AirConditionerChart.htm

If you are iPhone user, you can download the York app that I find it useful to work out how much BTU cooling capacity needed for your room.

Just specify the dimensions of the room, how many glass windows that you have in your room, and how many people that will stay in that room.



It also takes the size of the window into consideration as well, and which way that the window is facing. If it face the sun while it rises or sets, that obviously will add more cooling capacity.



My room's BTU is 11291, so I have to settle for 1.5HP aircond.

This post has been edited by mohdimran: Dec 29 2010, 01:56 AM

I don't know. I just use some fomula preset or data infor from website. There is a tons of infor in the net. You know uncle google right? Anyway, here in LY also have a lot of people helping you out.

I guess you know how to compare the infor in the net which one is right or wrong.

Each month I save around rm20-30 compare my previous bill. For 3yrs+. You do the math.

I m not inverter guys. Aircon inverter is my first use since it just arrived here. But I know this tech many yrs before arrive here. Just passion waiting.

anyone bought hitachi air-cond? any idea or comment on this brand?thanks

............it would be fine if someone commented politely....but sadly......anyway, thanks for the 'help'........but since my pocket is not that deep, then will just get a standard model....thanks.

price difference between inverter and non-inverter is not high. power consumption is a lot less and inverter should have a higher live-span too.

so if you assume inverter costs you 300 RM extra (1200 vs. 900) but it lasts (say) 3 years longer (10 vs. 7) and uses only 50% of the power of a normal unit for same cooling then you get this:

non-inverter:

cost per year: 900/7 = 128.6

inverter:

cost per year: 1200/10 = 120

already without switching in it's cheaper or roughly the same price

if you can save 20 RM per month for using the A/C a couple of hours a day you save RM 240 a year

service once a year - might be 50 bucks more costly than standard.

240 savings - 50 extra cost = 190 savings

of course the more you use the unit, the more you save. but even with pretty minimal usage you will quickly recover costs. also you save the environment - not bad. personally i'd go for inverter (and did). further + points:
they are quieter, dont need a gas refill (i do a cleaning once a year outside inside, same price as non-inverter - so no extra cost here), they are smaller too so use less space.

personal experience with first, second and third gen of panasonic inverters: all are fine, not a single issue at all. easy to clean inside unit yourself too. totally worth the money, also they reduced the a/c bill by a whopping 65% (i used seperate power meters - but our setting not normal: 24/7 28 or 29° in dry mode only, seems to be very very efficient setting for inverters).

This post has been edited by PJusa: Dec 29 2010, 10:42 PM

mitsuubhisi

ms-gc10vd got this for RM 1240 including installation... is this good price ?

If you open the inverter unit for long hours a days then it is good buy but if you open around 1-2 hours then it is not so cost saving. The gas and service is almost double than normal non-inverter

This post has been edited by lotiman2003: Jan 2 2011, 09:35 PM

no one installed this aircon ? mmmmmm

It's a brand you can trust. If you have budget you can get Hitachi because its price is usually higher than other brands.

your setting temp also affects the hp of your air cond unit. If you have 1.5 hp air cond and you set your temp like 19 or 21oC, I dont think that unit will be able to meet your 1.5hp cooling requirement. keep that in mind when you select your air cond unit k.

Hi all!
For recently I had changed 4 units of inverter Aircond.
2 of Hitachi 1hp Inverter for 2 common room and 2 of 1hp & 2.5hp Mitsubishi electric starmex inverter for master bedroom and living room.
The storey for hitachi and MIT electric,
1st I installed my master bedroom for hitachi and cannot sleep as well because of noisy in quiet mode or low fan & swing motor wave noise.
After installed 1 week time shifted to common room, 1st I look at the higher BTU hitachi non-inverter are made very well in quality so I just brought and replaced my old 7 yrs hitachi non-inverter 10k Btu and 1st UV clean model. After installed the inverter model and make it is worst quality control for hitachi in 2/7 warranty and sell higher price also no used just face to hitachi very disappointed.
Noisy, swing motor got wave sound and blower motor not whisper quiet not at cold still need to set in 23C for quiet fan, the hitachi technical told me have to used in med fan, ha ha who can accepted the noisy level when in sleeping time.
The changed over to MIT electric starmex inverter easy clean model, ha ha I'm very appreciated in the quality of noise in 19dB and used 25C the cold same as 23C, many function like Econ mode and outdoor condenser is bigger size and power input just only 640W for 8530BTU and 180W for 70% per/hr.
So I also changed my panasonic  2hp non-inverter to MIT electric 2.5Hp, I can said I'm no regret of the noise and quality control also is imported model.
For 2.5hp just only used at 600w per/hr in 70% energy saving.

When used in Gas R410A and do not worry about after refill gas.
But electric saving can be up to 70% of R22 gas and just needed 25C and above, even in 27C still feeling cold like R22 model in 25C.