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stevie8
post Jan 2 2013, 07:05 PM

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This is the latest model Hendrx
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Buy this you will not regret. The best of the best and you can forget about all other drinking water filter. No need to boil water, no need to chill water.

Let me put one more point. The water goes thru carbon block then RO then back to carbon block before deliver it to storage tank. Why? Water process via RO is acidic in the range between PH6 and Ph7. Our ancestors had been drinking PH7 neutral water. Going thru carbon block again bring the water PH to 7.

Dont drink acidic water everyday ok not very good. Can drink occasionally like Coca cola no harm and enjoy life while you can, dont be deprived of yourself of good life. But dont drink everyday. And dont drink alkaline water everyday as well. It is for sick ppl. You dont take medicine when you are not sick. Our blood PH is towards Alkaline but our stomach is acidic. By not drinking neutral water everyday you are asking for troble. Drink everyday alkaline water your stomach will produce extra acid to fight it, asking for troble. Drinking acidic water you stomach produce less acid and if go on everyday you develop problem. You see this filter system takes so many thing, everything about drinking water into consideration, not just simply clean water.

It got UV, 2 in fact and it recycles the storage water to make it fresh. Ask yourself why there are terms called fresh water and dead water. Keeping water for too long it become old and dead, no oxygen, etc, not for life.


Added on January 2, 2013, 7:17 pmSorry, the new model got 3 UVs, 3 carbon, one RO, 3 stainless steel tanks, all filter components/parts (like RO, Carbon, UV) USA made so as to get FDA approval for US and international markets.

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post Jan 3 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 2 2013, 07:05 PM)
This is the latest model Hendrx
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Buy this you will not regret. The best of the best and you can forget about all other drinking water filter. No need to boil water, no need to chill water.

Let me put one more point. The water goes thru carbon block then RO then back to carbon block before deliver it to storage tank. Why? Water process via RO is acidic in the range between PH6 and Ph7. Our ancestors had been drinking PH7 neutral water. Going thru carbon block again bring the water PH to 7.

Dont drink acidic water everyday ok not very good. Can drink occasionally like Coca cola no harm and enjoy life while you can, dont be deprived of yourself of good life. But dont drink everyday. And dont drink alkaline water everyday as well. It is for sick ppl. You dont take medicine when you are not sick. Our blood PH is towards Alkaline but our stomach is acidic. By not drinking neutral water everyday you are asking for troble. Drink everyday alkaline water your stomach will produce extra acid to fight it, asking for troble. Drinking acidic water you stomach produce less acid and if go on everyday you develop problem. You see this filter system takes so many thing, everything about drinking water into consideration, not just simply clean water.

It got UV, 2 in fact and it recycles the storage water to make it fresh. Ask yourself why there are terms called fresh water and dead water. Keeping water for too long it become old and dead, no oxygen, etc, not for life.


Added on January 2, 2013, 7:17 pmSorry, the new model got 3 UVs, 3 carbon, one RO, 3 stainless steel tanks, all filter components/parts (like RO, Carbon, UV) USA made so as to get FDA approval for US and international markets.
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where can get it? thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by Sally ll: Jan 3 2013, 10:45 AM
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 2 2013, 07:05 PM)
This is the latest model Hendrx
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Buy this you will not regret. The best of the best and you can forget about all other drinking water filter. No need to boil water, no need to chill water.

Let me put one more point. The water goes thru carbon block then RO then back to carbon block before deliver it to storage tank. Why? Water process via RO is acidic in the range between PH6 and Ph7. Our ancestors had been drinking PH7 neutral water. Going thru carbon block again bring the water PH to 7.

Dont drink acidic water everyday ok not very good. Can drink occasionally like Coca cola no harm and enjoy life while you can, dont be deprived of yourself of good life. But dont drink everyday. And dont drink alkaline water everyday as well. It is for sick ppl. You dont take medicine when you are not sick. Our blood PH is towards Alkaline but our stomach is acidic. By not drinking neutral water everyday you are asking for troble. Drink everyday alkaline water your stomach will produce extra acid to fight it, asking for troble. Drinking acidic water you stomach produce less acid and if go on everyday you develop problem. You see this filter system takes so many thing, everything about drinking water into consideration, not just simply clean water.

It got UV, 2 in fact and it recycles the storage water to make it fresh. Ask yourself why there are terms called fresh water and dead water. Keeping water for too long it become old and dead, no oxygen, etc, not for life.


Added on January 2, 2013, 7:17 pmSorry, the new model got 3 UVs, 3 carbon, one RO, 3 stainless steel tanks, all filter components/parts (like RO, Carbon, UV) USA made so as to get FDA approval for US and international markets.

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Based on the spec you mentioned, it was incredible, hardly seen in Malaysia. Could it be used more in commercial rather than in consumer residential? hmm.gif
Or maybe like you said, some places like desert could make good use of it. smile.gif
NSF website seems to can't find the brand model of you referring.

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post Jan 3 2013, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(Sally ll @ Jan 3 2013, 10:45 AM)
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I imported it 8 years ago some 144 units, all sold between RM3000 to RM4000 a unit but it took me more than 1 year to sell. Only those appreciate and know about water bought it. One resort bought 5 units and one old man bought 10 units giving away to daughters and for his offices, his church, keeping 2 for his house. One dealer took 30 units to Sabah. One doctor from Sabah insisted I reserved a unit for her daughter studying in KL. great mother's love. After that I did not import anymore. The reason was this is not a mass consumer product and if I advertised I would lose money. Due to its price the sales was slow. But if it were RM2k then no problem for people to buy. It was tough to explain one to one. Also, it cannot be marketed via multi level marketing as it will push the price sky high like RM6K to 7K due to multi level commission. Already RM4k is beyond many people. People don't mind to pay RM2k for a simple water filter and think it is the best ever with just multi-carbon filters.

But I have a friend importing it at small quantity from time to time upon request by customers/friends/referrers. He keeps minimum 1 or 2 units before re-order 10 units.

I am not sure of the price now. Maybe still below RM5k because of the low markup and no advertisement. The units i imported 8 yrs ago came with 2 plastics tank, 2 stainless steel tank, 2 uv, 2 carbon, one ro two pumps and all the computerised sensors. Now the new model came with all stainless steel tanks, 3 UV, 3 carbon, 1 RO. All filter and UV and computer sensors are from renown companies. Sensors mostly from Japan, RO is from DOW™ FILMTEC™, USA, UV from Phillips. Carbon made in USA. You can open the covers front, back, left and right and top quite easily and see the parts including the sensors. It is made such so that service and replacement, if need be, be easy.


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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Jan 3 2013, 11:21 AM)
Based on the spec you mentioned, it was incredible, hardly seen in Malaysia. Could it be used more in commercial rather than in consumer residential?  hmm.gif
Or maybe like you said, some places like desert could make good use of it.  smile.gif
NSF website seems to can't find the brand model of you referring.
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Malaysian are not ready to pay RM5K or even RM4K for drinking water filter system. that is why you dont get to see it. But for RM2k even when it is only a partial system they buy. This is a complete system. You can pipe in, you can use air to generate water (rain water), it has carbon, it has UV, RO, 304 medical grade stainless steel, it use all renown companies parts and products, it has cold and hot dispenser.

It was used in desert for war unfortunately. Where do you think the US soldiers get drinking water in hot desert walking or even in the tanks for days and months? How many truck loads of water can they carry to and flo to the soldiers? They produced on the spot! Don't talk about desert. In malaysia if you play 1 half of football at in the afternoon say 3pm for 45 minutes when half break you look for water. You cannot continue the 2nd half if no water is given to you.

It is use in space station, starting from the USSR Mir. 1 liter of water is 1kg. One person consumes at least 4 liter a day. Need not talk about cleaning themselves. How much water is being sent by rockets to the station. Very little because they recycle it using this technology and this technology came from there. It is very expensive to carry load with rocket to space.

It is use in nuclear submarine. These sub need no refueling for 100 yrs. Water getting from sea need lot of filter. Get water from air and inside the sub is the answer especially during war time. Spore netwater recycle from human waste using ultra filter. If you think cut off their water supply spore got problem? No, they need no water from outside, they recycle.


Added on January 3, 2013, 10:20 pmJust to add, this is a machine, not just a water filter. It stop making water when tanks are full, it shows you how hot or/and how cold the water is. make coffee, tea? See the temp before making. It beeps tell you time to change filters. You can override it anyway. If flashes warning light when UV is broken and when 2 uv are broken it stop dispensing water!!! It recycles and refresh the water after long period of no activity. It tells you the humidity level at your home. It filter your house air, improve air quality at the same time generating water. Anyway, it is one expensive machine but worth the price of a good thing.

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post Jan 3 2013, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(stevie8 @ Jan 3 2013, 09:22 PM)

I am not sure of the price now. Maybe still below RM5k because of the low markup and no advertisement. The units i imported 8 yrs ago came with 2 plastics tank, 2 stainless steel tank, 2 uv, 2 carbon, one ro two pumps and all the computerised sensors. Now the new model came with all stainless steel tanks, 3 UV, 3 carbon, 1 RO. All filter and UV and computer sensors are from renown companies. Sensors mostly from Japan, RO is from DOW™ FILMTEC™, USA, UV from Phillips. Carbon made in USA. You can open the covers front, back, left and right and top quite easily and see the parts including the sensors. It is made such so that service and replacement, if need be, be easy.
hi, can share some pictures on the parts?
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post Mar 18 2013, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(Spritzz @ Jun 1 2012, 06:03 PM)
can you share some picture on your coway...and how much you paid initial in total.? I am looking whether outdoor or indoor only or both..I do not have so much money to spend on going basis..try to be cost saving.
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I recommend that you use BEYOND WATER BIO-ACTIVE REFORMING SYSTEM. It is for tap water in the sink. So you can directly drink or use for cooking purpose. The maintenance is incredibly cheap. It will produce a magnetied water as the filter has its own magnet. PM me if interested.
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QUOTE(BeyondWater @ Mar 18 2013, 10:31 AM)
I recommend that you use BEYOND WATER BIO-ACTIVE REFORMING SYSTEM. It is for tap water in the sink. So you can directly drink or use for cooking purpose. The maintenance is incredibly cheap. It will produce a magnetied water as the filter has its own magnet. PM me if interested.
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Show us some proven fact like NSF report here. wink.gif
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QUOTE(marshmallow82 @ Dec 27 2012, 09:24 AM)
RO water anyone?? is it really good?? being promoted so many times by my friend to buy RO water filter by ELken..so stress..the cost for filter produce normal water  is RM2K++ but for cold, hot, normal water RM5K++. She said only 2 company produce RO water filter in Malaysia Elken and Coway, the rest not RO. She said Elken water filter certified by WQA.
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Coway frm Korea oso got... WQA Gold Seal.. Quite good wt service included

http://www.coway.com.my/ProductDetails.aspx?PID=35
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axoloke
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Anyone from Penang here who got their water filter (POE and/or POU) recently? Any recommended vendor/brands? Thanks.
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QUOTE(axoloke @ Mar 20 2013, 11:51 AM)
Anyone from Penang here who got their water filter (POE and/or POU) recently? Any recommended vendor/brands? Thanks.
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Hi my friend axoloke, what are your budget and where do you plan to put on it? land lot or apartment? What was your main usage for? because the POE & POU are different.
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post Mar 20 2013, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 20 2013, 12:17 PM)
Hi my friend axoloke, what are your budget and where do you plan to put on it? land lot or apartment? What was your main usage for? because the POE & POU are different.
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Anyone here heard of Hydro1 Outdoor Filter? It is a membrane filter.....anyone with comments?
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QUOTE(jamestan_85 @ Mar 20 2013, 08:54 PM)
Anyone here heard of Hydro1 Outdoor Filter? It is a membrane filter.....anyone with comments?
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Does membrane filter = RO water? since fan filter virus also...mineral sure cannot pass
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Make sure the activated carbon is food grade. Else the water will be more toxic than before adsorption.
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 20 2013, 12:17 PM)
Hi my friend axoloke, what are your budget and where do you plan to put on it? land lot or apartment? What was your main usage for? because the POE & POU are different.
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Well, it's for my single storey house which is undergoing reno now. Read that most people recommend getting both for the best quality of water in the house? Budget...maybe around 3k max? Main usage would be bath, drinking water supply and some light cooking.
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QUOTE(jamestan_85 @ Mar 20 2013, 08:54 PM)
Anyone here heard of Hydro1 Outdoor Filter? It is a membrane filter.....anyone with comments?
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QUOTE(jamestan_85 @ Mar 20 2013, 08:58 PM)
Does membrane filter = RO water? since fan filter virus also...mineral sure cannot pass
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It depend on the micron of the membrane filter, unless it mentioned is a Reverse Osmosis aka RO which is 0.0001 micron.
If the RO filter components is not certified by NSF 58, means that the RO filtration performance is not reliable.

QUOTE(BTimes @ Mar 20 2013, 09:19 PM)
Make sure the activated carbon is food grade. Else the water will be more toxic than before adsorption.
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If the Activated Carbon is use for Water Treatment System, it at least need to be certify by the NSF International to be safe.

QUOTE(axoloke @ Mar 20 2013, 09:24 PM)
Well, it's for my single storey house which is undergoing reno now. Read that most people recommend getting both for the

best quality of water in the house? Budget...maybe around 3k max? Main usage would be bath, drinking water supply and

some light cooking.
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I'm using eSpring that comes from Amway company, an indoor POU water treatment system, recommended consider to take a look on it, check your PM.

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QUOTE(axoloke @ Mar 20 2013, 09:24 PM)
Well, it's for my single storey house which is undergoing reno now. Read that most people recommend getting both for the best quality of water in the house? Budget...maybe around 3k max? Main usage would be bath, drinking water supply and some light cooking.
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Having both would be ideal. One additional benefit of external filters is that long term you have less chance of clogging up your pipes.
I am using Aquaclean 5k outside my house at the moment.
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After reading so much, still blur. Should I go for Elken or Hendrx while i plan to have 3M as the outdoor?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Lerner @ Mar 21 2013, 02:43 PM)
After reading so much, still blur. Should I go for Elken or Hendrx while i plan to have 3M as the outdoor?

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The most important thing is the product must certified by NSF.
You can check the certification database at here.
The more standard accredited, the better the product! rclxms.gif

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Through a comprehensive consensus process, the NSF Joint Committee on Drinking Water Treatment Units has developed key standards for evaluation and certification of drinking water treatment units. These include:

NSF/ANSI Standard 42: Drinking Water Treatment Units - Aesthetic Effects
Overview: This standard covers point-of-use (POU) and point-of-entry (POE) systems designed to reduce specific aesthetic or non-health-related contaminants (chlorine, taste and odor, and particulates) that may be present in public or private drinking water.

NSF/ANSI Standard 53: Drinking Water Treatment Units - Health Effects
Overview: Standard 53 addresses point-of-use (POU) and point-of-entry (POE) systems designed to reduce specific health-related contaminants, such as Cryptosporidium, Giardia, lead, volatile organic chemicals (VOCs), MTBE (methyl tertiary-butyl ether), that may be present in public or private drinking water.

NSF/ANSI Standard 58: Reverse Osmosis Drinking Water Treatment Systems
Overview: This standard was developed for point-of-use (POU) reverse osmosis (RO) treatment systems. These systems typically consist of a pre-filter, RO membrane, and post-filter. Standard 58 includes contaminant reduction claims commonly treated using RO, including fluoride, hexavalent and trivalent chromium, total dissolved solids, nitrates, etc. that may be present in public or private drinking water.

NSF/ANSI Standard 44: Cation Exchange Water Softeners
Overview: This standard covers residential cation exchange water softeners designed to reduce hardness from public or private water supplies. Additionally, this standard can verify the system's ability to reduce radium and barium.

NSF/ANSI Standard 55: Ultraviolet Microbiological Water Treatment Systems
Overview: This standard establishes requirements for point-of-use (POU) and point-of-entry (POE) non-public water supply (non-PWS) ultraviolet systems and includes two optional classifications. Class A systems (40,000 uwsec/cm2) are designed to disinfect and/or remove microorganisms from contaminated water, including bacteria and viruses, to a safe level. Class B systems (16,000 uw-sec/cm2) are designed for supplemental bactericidal treatment of public drinking water or other drinking water, which has been deemed acceptable by a local health agency.

NSF/ANSI Standard 62: Drinking Water Distillation Systems
Overview: Standard 62 covers distillation systems designed to reduce specific contaminants, including total arsenic, chromium, mercury, nitrate/nitrite, and microorganisms from public and private water supplies.

NSF/ANSI Standard 177: Shower Filtration Systems - Aesthetic Effects
Overview: This standard covers point-of-use (POU) shower filtration systems, designed to reduce free available chlorine that may be present in potable water (public or private).

NSF Protocol P231: Microbiological Water Purifiers
Overview: Protocol P231 addresses systems that use chemical, mechanical, and/or physical technologies to filter and treat waters of unknown microbiological quality, but that are presumed to be potable.

CSA B483.1: Drinking Water Treatment Systems
Overview: Canadian Standards Association (CSA) developed additional requirements, outside the existing NSF/ANSI standards, to meet plumbing, mechanical, and electrical requirements for drinking water treatment components and complete systems. Products under this scope include POU and POE plumbed systems and POU non-plumbed systems. The regulation will go into Canadian National Plumbing Code in 2010 but provinces can adopt the standard at any time.

[NSF Standard]
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Hello there,

We are selling Alkaline Water Products, been in business for more than 14 years in Malaysia.

Do check out our products from Korea and Japan =)

http://www.alkalifewater.com/

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Mar 21 2013, 12:44 PM)
Having both would be ideal. One additional benefit of external filters is that long term you have less chance of clogging up your pipes.
I am using Aquaclean 5k outside my house at the moment.
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Yes. Outdoor External Water Filter are recommended to install one for our home. The benefit is like what you said above. My personal more likely to recommend take 3M AP903 Model which tested and certified by NSF42. There are one seller in this forum here. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Lerner @ Mar 21 2013, 02:43 PM)
After reading so much, still blur. Should I go for Elken or Hendrx while i plan to have 3M as the outdoor?

Thanks.
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After I did some research on 3M outdoor external filter, I have no doubt about it. As for your indoor choice, you should think twice about it. wink.gif

QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Mar 21 2013, 04:00 PM)
The most important thing is the product must certified by NSF.
You can check the certification database at here.
The more standard accredited, the better the product! rclxms.gif
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Well, not really. Of course the more standard the product certified have, the better the product, but to choose proper qualify good drinking water system must have at least NSF 42 and 53 certified which is the Aesthetic Effects & Health Effects.
Somemore must fully unit verify and certify, so is no just only the components, there are few brand selling in the hypermarket or we often seen, those system is just components certify but not the full unit. Like a car, example: a Certified imported Honda Brand Engine put into a local OEM Brand car.

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