planning to get an outdoor water filter...considering the 3M AP902. are there any way to prevent ppl from stealing the catridge? build a bracket?

we have hydroguard outdoor water filter as you want.not just like any other outdoor water filter,our outdoor water filter that only product in Malaysia remove chlorine in water into safer level for you can use household chores because the media inside that water filter is A grade activated carbon which reduce chlorine,silica sand that remove sediments,rust,dirt and ext.there lot benefit you can get by using our product.i can tell you more about our product if you interested  please do reply. #healthylifestyle

we have hydroguard outdoor water filter as you want.not just like any other outdoor water filter,our outdoor water filter that only product in Malaysia remove chlorine in water into safer level for you can use household chores because the media inside that water filter is A grade activated carbon which reduce chlorine,silica sand that remove sediments,rust,dirt and ext.there lot benefit you can get by using our product.i can tell you more about our product if you interested  please do reply. #healthylifestyle

How do you define 'safer level'? 80%? 70%? The truth is chlorine content in water varies in different areas. If your area is near the treatment plant, then definitely the chlorine level in your water is higher compared to houses in area further downstream. Chlorine will evaporate over time.

Also, its never recommended to remove chlorine directly from POE as chlorine-free water will be prone to bacteria growth, especially if you have a water tank where the water will be stored for a period of time.

My advise: POE to remove physical sediments and rust and POU to remove chemical properties.

If the outdoor water filter already remove the chlorine, its best to avoid.
We still need chlorine to maintain the water quality inside the tank.

How do you define 'safer level'? 80%? 70%? The truth is chlorine content in water varies in different areas. If your area is near the treatment plant, then definitely the chlorine level in your water is higher compared to houses in area further downstream. Chlorine will evaporate over time.

Also, its never recommended to remove chlorine directly from POE as chlorine-free water will be prone to bacteria growth, especially if you have a water tank where the water will be stored for a period of time.

My advise: POE to remove physical sediments and rust and POU to remove chemical properties.

Water filter I use Rainmaker water distiller. I'm not selling Rainmaker or advertising for them, as I'm looking for water distiller and it's only one of the two brands I found in the market.

The Spartans and Chinese Dynasties Royalties used to collect dew water from plants in the morning. Dew water is gained through a natural process called transpiration. It is distilled water, free from anything in the water, just pure H2O, nothing else. No organisms, no heavy metals, no minerals, nada.

It is a known fact that marketeers and advertisers will do anything to sell everything, including water (water filter is water business) since everyone needs it. There's all sorts of quackery and claims about alkaline, oxygen, ionic, etc but really, if you're a real scientist that knows human body, biology and chemistry, you will know they are all not scientifically founded.

Some of the common arguments:

1. Our body need minerals, and distilled water has no minerals.

Yes it's true that our body needs minerals, without essential minerals we'd be sick. We are made of star stuff, as Carl Sagan said. However, there are 2 types of minerals, organic and inorganic. See this: http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/minerals/o...c-minerals.html

We need minerals, but not from water! Minerals in water is inorganic and not good for our body. If not cleansed from our body, it will be deposited in our blood streams, veins, arteries, nerves, etc and cause many kind of problems. Sometimes you will hear a person who is lives a very healthy lifestyle, eat healthy, exercise, but suddenly got strange sickness and die. Then the question may be what kind of water he drinks?

Minerals that are beneficial for us can only be gained by eating food. Ok.

2. Distilled water has the 'absorbing' effect and will rob your body of the minerals.

This is exaggerated and fear-driven. It's true that distilled water has the 'absorbing' effect due to its purity, and yes it does absorb minerals when it enters your body, starting from the leftover food traces in your mouth and by the time it reaches your digestive system it is already in a steady state. However, it doesn't just absorb minerals, but toxins and other pollutants in your body as well.

This is the real function of water in our body: to act as a carriage for nutrients and to flush out everything else that our body doesn't need. Not provide oxygen (your respiratory system does that), not provide alkaline (I'll come to this). That's why you should not smoke because it ruins your respiratory system. Does it mean if you drink oxygen water you can smoke as you like? LOL

3. Alkaline water is better than pure water (distilled) because alkaline (ionized) is beneficial for us.

This is another funny one. Alkaline 'anything' is good for us, but do you only hear that from promoters or did you do your own research? Lemon, very sour and acidic, is one of the most 'alkaline-forming' food. Maybe your promoter didn't tell you that. Alkaline, alkaline-forming, acidic, acid-forming all have different meanings. For example lemon is acidic but when it reaches our digestive system it will form alkalinity. Wonders of nature (chemistry). Do you know most fish will die if the pH in water is above 10 or below 3? For me common sense tells me it's safer to stay around neutral pH than be alkaline. There's also a sickness called alkalosis (cell death due to too alkaline environment). Eating unhealthy food (fast food, fried food, soft drinks) will cause our body too be acidic and also invite a lot of sicknesses (cancer?), so better don't be too acidic or too alkaline just stay around neutral, and distilled water is the nearest to neutral pH compared to other water.

4. If distilled water is so good, then why it is cheaper compared to other water filters?

First, distilled water is not 'good', it is just water the way it is, pure H2O. It is just not 'bad', in terms of adding unproven so-called 'beneficial' stuffs into your water and eventually wreck your body in long-term. Understand what is water's function in our body.

Second, you can actually make your own distilled water at home. Just boil water and collect the vapour which formed from the steam. Anyone can do it. That's why they cannot charge a lot for a 'water distiller'. Also, they don't need to market/advertise like other water promoters because those who understand pure water will buy from them. If they advertise, the cost will rise. There are so many water quacks out there who want to profit from the filter maintenance and the 'super-beneficial' magical water machine. My water distiller also need to change a simple carbon filter every 3 months, but very cheap compared to those expensive filters. Carbon filter is for the chlorine which can rise together with steam. BTW the water distiller I use is not for lazy people, because I actually need to pour water in it everyday to boil it. (Some think it's expensive to boil water, but it's actually not. If you order a drink everyday you eat outside, you're already paying more than that).

There's many more to write but I'll just stop here. For me, I have been drinking distilled water for almost a year, my friend already more than 15 years (he's much older than me) and nothing wrong (no mineral deficiencies). I used to have dry foot skin and dry patches around my thighs, knees and elbows (sometimes itchy due to dryness) but now no more.

In conclusion, water is really just for hydration, molecular-level transport and cleansing. As long as it doesn't harm us, don't depend on it for any so-called 'beneficial' effect. Many people drink tap water also can survive long, and their food style has probably outweighed the little accumulative harmful effect of normal tap water. You want healthy body, no short cut, exercise and eat healthy food instead of giving excuse of no time, lazy, too much work, entertain clients etc. In the end, it's up to you which water to choose, it's your money and your body. I'm just sharing my experience.

use hydroguard kalla 2 water filter  its absolutely what are you searching for.gives you clean water to drink and for kitchen chores.its fixed under the sink as you want and low maintenance.its the best you can find in market.i say what i can and its all up to your decision.if you interested please do reply.i tell more about our product if you interested.just want help you and your family get clean&safe water #healthylifestyle 

i study biochemistry

and this is pure BS

thanks for reply. hydroguard outdoor water filter contain a grade activated carbon which remove/reduce chlorine in water as much as 0.7 to 0.5 ppm.when water goes to tank it will evaporate to a 'safer level' about 0.2 ppm which recommended by WHO and also contain silica sand to remove rust,sediments,dirt and ext.so it its not possible our product can leading growth of bacteria and viruses.please do reply 

I understand that as a salesman, you will champion your product and thinking it to be the best. From the way you are writing, its very obvious. An extremely normal occurrence as your superiors will always say to have faith that your product is the best. However, at times I do hope people do some research and not believe blindly.

"evaporate to a 'safer level' about 0.2 ppm" - Any research or statistics done on this? How can you be sure? As I mentioned, chlorine concentration in water is different at a variety of places.

By the way, WHO recommends MINIMUM of 0.2ppm (or mg/L, whichever way to put it). WHO guideline value is 5mg/L, a point which you mentioned in a previous post as "Horrible" if its in the range of 2.0 - 5.0ppm. I do not remember coming across a "safe level" recommendation in WHO's report. Minimum level is definitely not equivalent to safer level.

http://whqlibdoc.who.int/publications/2011...51_eng.pdf?ua=1
The complete WHO drinking water standards, believe me I have gone through it as I am from this industry as well. 500+ pages

Nothing personal, just sharing. Please do not get me wrong as I am not saying your product is bad, but would like to highlight that your arguments are invalid.

i looked up your filter despite the advertorial nature. to my surprise it might actually be what i am looking for.

please provide tech specs, pricing and pricing for replacement cartridges. thanks

hey everyone, please help me in deciding an indoor filter.

my house already has an outdoor diamond master filter, so which filter system should i use for indoor?

thanks for reply.well you ask for any research or statistics done on this?yes!!of course.we are only company done local research and development (R&D) in Malaysia because its very important to have local R&D to know what the problem with water source in Malaysia and how to solve it.we are in here for 40 years and have 43 branches across the country.i dare you to compare our water filter product to any other water filter in the market because every country has their own water issue so does in Malaysia which they use excessive amount of chlorine in water to prevent growth of bacteria and viruses .they use about 5ppm chlorine on water plant and when its reach your residential area  its become in as low as 1.9 but the WHO recommended 0.2ppm only.people must know how dangerous is chlorine to human body especially the children.back in the days,people drink and shower in good water where the are get natural mineral that should have in water but now days because of old piping,rapid development,industry pollution,outdated reservoir and treatment plants the water getting worse than before.i'm not lie but this are the ugly truth.