Household [Home Appliances] Washing Machine
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 May 9 2014, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ May 9 2014, 03:12 PM) Yea same to me, I will pay for the convenience too as long as it's in my acceptable range. lazy to travel here and there, visit here visit there, waste my time and energy to talk to sales honestly, if what i bought is cheaper than what my MIL bought, i already got bragging rights |
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May 10 2014, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2014, 02:30 PM) Front load always use lesser water compare to top load WM. Actually bill saving portion as a reason of my choice to choose front load is min, but I am more concern abt the usefulness of front load washing machine compare to top load.But for the same price you are going to spend, FL's max capacity are always smaller than TL's max capacity. Seen the most reputable FL WM, it do uses lesser water compare to cheaper models and even perform better than TL by 0.5l. But you need to pay extra rm1200 just to safe 0.5l of water each wash  Sellers always comparing the WM based on max load and will take a 10KG TL compare to 8KG FL. Also, FL uses more power compare to FL. If each day a FL uses 1-2 unit more, 1 month already 60 units. You can do the maths on this. Is it  Before I commit a purchase, minimum shops I visit will be 10-20. Usually Homdec will put MSRP and then give some discount for it which still 20-30% more expensive than those no name shops  |
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May 10 2014, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(westlife @ May 10 2014, 06:23 PM) Actually bill saving portion as a reason of my choice to choose front load is min, but I am more concern abt the usefulness of front load washing machine compare to top load. Is it? WM is just to wash laundries, so I don't really care much.As long as the initial cost, maintenance cost low and don't cost me much on utilities bill, that will be my first choice. |
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May 10 2014, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 9 2014, 02:30 PM) Front load always use lesser water compare to top load WM. But for the same price you are going to spend, FL's max capacity are always smaller than TL's max capacity. Seen the most reputable FL WM, it do uses lesser water compare to cheaper models and even perform better than TL by 0.5l. But you need to pay extra rm1200 just to safe 0.5l of water each wash Sellers always comparing the WM based on max load and will take a 10KG TL compare to 8KG FL. Also, FL uses more power compare to FL. If each day a FL uses 1-2 unit more, 1 month already 60 units. You can do the maths on this. Is it Before I commit a purchase, minimum shops I visit will be 10-20. Usually Homdec will put MSRP and then give some discount for it which still 20-30% more expensive than those no name shops QUOTE(westlife @ May 10 2014, 06:23 PM) Actually bill saving portion as a reason of my choice to choose front load is min, but I am more concern abt the usefulness of front load washing machine compare to top load. My main concern is Gentle On Cloth and Ease of Use the rest are secondary. This post has been edited by mcloudteo: May 10 2014, 07:08 PM |
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May 10 2014, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ May 10 2014, 06:50 PM) My main concern is Gentle On Cloth the rest is secondary. TL also got gentle option to select. |
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May 10 2014, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 10 2014, 06:51 PM) TL also got gentle option to select. TL never gentle on cloth base on my experience with 3 TL.This post has been edited by mcloudteo: May 10 2014, 07:07 PM |
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May 10 2014, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ May 10 2014, 07:02 PM) TL never gentle on cloth base on my experience with 3 TL. Fully understand your view on this.Because most people always have this impression : quite means gentle |
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May 10 2014, 10:34 PM
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actually.... gentle is not that effective in cleaning dirt
esp if u have school going children, n their baju always dirty compare to office ppl.... if u remember the old days, ppl wash kain/ baju they twist n beat etc.. tht might be the reason that FL needs longer time to wash n also use warm water... to get those dirt out more effectively.... both types of washers are useful, both can do something the other can't do... haha.... TL have soak function, for those who wants to soak before wash... i forgot which brand of washer has this 'continue' function where if the power supply is off, then later turns on again, the washer will con't from where it stop... |
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May 11 2014, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 10 2014, 10:34 PM) actually.... gentle is not that effective in cleaning dirt Warm water + soda(main ingredient of detergent) = laundries brittle fast.esp if u have school going children, n their baju always dirty compare to office ppl.... if u remember the old days, ppl wash kain/ baju they twist n beat etc.. tht might be the reason that FL needs longer time to wash n also use warm water... to get those dirt out more effectively.... both types of washers are useful, both can do something the other can't do... haha.... TL have soak function, for those who wants to soak before wash... i forgot which brand of washer has this 'continue' function where if the power supply is off, then later turns on again, the washer will con't from where it stop... WM's job is spin, spin and spin. In the middle of spin, spin ,spin, it add water and drain water. Or are you expecting some WM internal can jump Resume function are not that useful most of the time. Unless we have another serious power outage like 80's. But then when this happens, washing laundries still important |
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May 11 2014, 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(supersound @ May 11 2014, 12:50 AM) Warm water + soda(main ingredient of detergent) = laundries brittle fast. no one here is expecting wm internals can jump la... unker... WM's job is spin, spin and spin. In the middle of spin, spin ,spin, it add water and drain water. Or are you expecting some WM internal can jump Resume function are not that useful most of the time. Unless we have another serious power outage like 80's. But then when this happens, washing laundries still important  resume function is useful in certain situations.... just can't rmber which brand is that.... |
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May 11 2014, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 10 2014, 10:34 PM) actually.... gentle is not that effective in cleaning dirt Nowaday both have quite similar function. Unless you get the very basic WM.esp if u have school going children, n their baju always dirty compare to office ppl.... if u remember the old days, ppl wash kain/ baju they twist n beat etc.. tht might be the reason that FL needs longer time to wash n also use warm water... to get those dirt out more effectively.... both types of washers are useful, both can do something the other can't do... haha.... TL have soak function, for those who wants to soak before wash... i forgot which brand of washer has this 'continue' function where if the power supply is off, then later turns on again, the washer will con't from where it stop... Both type should be able to select gentle, delicate and many more mode to wash. The gap between 2 is getting closer. FL have a soak function too. I don't use it much as mostly my cloth is not that dirty. Soaking, extra time wash and hot water should be effective cleaning the dirt. No need too hash to your cloth.  There is another method I use if too dirty. Get a liquid detergent like dyamo, rub the detergent on the dirt. Wait 1/2-1hr. Than throw it into WM. Very effective. Learn from their old TV commercial. |
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May 11 2014, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 11 2014, 12:58 AM) no one here is expecting wm internals can jump la... unker... That's why, rm1000 already can get a decent WM, buying a rm3000 WM are just for boasting around that the WM has more functions. resume function is useful in certain situations.... just can't rmber which brand is that.... But I do prefer a WM that comes with 2-3 water ruler to make sure it is properly aligned, which will makes that WM last longer. I guess they dropped the resume function, as it need to add another IC that can hold certain charge(or memory) for a period of time. |
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May 11 2014, 01:33 AM
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actually the dynamo ad din ask u to wait, the fler after rub straight throw into the wm to wash.
i did just that using top the other day on kfc oil stain, n d stain is still there... haha.. either top is useless or kfc using super junk oil ( as usual... ) |
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May 11 2014, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 11 2014, 01:33 AM) actually the dynamo ad din ask u to wait, the fler after rub straight throw into the wm to wash. They are using minyak sapi to fry.i did just that using top the other day on kfc oil stain, n d stain is still there... haha.. either top is useless or kfc using super junk oil ( as usual... ) |
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May 11 2014, 10:18 AM
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does your front loading WM comes with a spanner for leveling the feets? mine doesnt and the usual spanner is too thick to enter the space underneath the machine.
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May 11 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 10 2014, 10:34 PM) actually.... gentle is not that effective in cleaning dirt Actually as you mention beating part is perform by the FL as the cloth being bring up by the lifter and drop back to the water and drum to simulate the beating action.esp if u have school going children, n their baju always dirty compare to office ppl.... if u remember the old days, ppl wash kain/ baju they twist n beat etc.. tht might be the reason that FL needs longer time to wash n also use warm water... to get those dirt out more effectively.... both types of washers are useful, both can do something the other can't do... haha.... TL have soak function, for those who wants to soak before wash... i forgot which brand of washer has this 'continue' function where if the power supply is off, then later turns on again, the washer will con't from where it stop... Warm water also make you detergent work harder because the detergent enzyme work better in warm water. Why TL is bad is because of agitator (or pulsator), agitator is hard on the cloth when it spin and there is high chance the cloth stuck in between the agitator and the drum again damage the cloth. (that why Panasonic TL washer have this thing call gentle care net to cover the agitator when you want to wash delicate item.) 2nd the twist, because of the nature of the TL WM when it spin it's unavoidable the cloth get tangle together, when they tangle together they twist, twist is no good for cloth too (at least it make my undies from L to XXL because it twist too hard), that's why when you go shop for TL washing machine now you always can see they advertise less tangle. P/S one of the brand that have continue after power failure is Hitachi (but I don't think it's useful in Malaysia maybe India yes  )This post has been edited by mcloudteo: May 11 2014, 12:17 PM |
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May 11 2014, 01:22 PM
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bring up by the lifter and drop back to water,,,,,,
this is the marketing gimmick used by LG to confuse consumers... yes, it can happen... when ur wash load is like what? only a few clothes, then it can happen, drop down.. then how high is the drop ah? the drum is only less than 2 feet? bout 2 feet? yes very very gentle drop down 'beating'... i agree, tht's y FL is always gentle it is true... in this vid, which i have posted earlier, it is like more of a gentle tumbling.... clothes are at best rubbing against each other gently... slow massaging those old TL washer.. with the batang in the centre and non rotating drum, yes it will twist very hard... clothes get tangled bcos only the pulsator is rotating, and the drum is static. i have 2 of those washers... compared to the latest TL tht i'm using now.... the difference is huge.. the whole of msia is not like the mid/ upper/high c modern housing area tht u r staying ... some areas will have power trips once in a while.... cos of nearby factory, or backyard industry overloading etc... not only hitachi, but a lot of other brands have this auto resume function.. depends on which model... This post has been edited by H2D: May 11 2014, 01:25 PM |
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May 11 2014, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(H2D @ May 11 2014, 01:22 PM) bring up by the lifter and drop back to water,,,,,, Nowadays TL's technology already improved as time goes by.this is the marketing gimmick used by LG to confuse consumers... yes, it can happen... when ur wash load is like what? only a few clothes, then it can happen, drop down.. then how high is the drop ah? the drum is only less than 2 feet? bout 2 feet? yes very very gentle drop down 'beating'... i agree, tht's y FL is always gentle it is true... in this vid, which i have posted earlier, it is like more of a gentle tumbling.... clothes are at best rubbing against each other gently... slow massaging those old TL washer.. with the batang in the centre and non rotating drum, yes it will twist very hard... clothes get tangled bcos only the pulsator is rotating, and the drum is static. i have 2 of those washers... compared to the latest TL tht i'm using now.... the difference is huge.. the whole of msia is not like the mid/ upper/high c modern housing area tht u r staying ... some areas will have power trips once in a while.... cos of nearby factory, or backyard industry overloading etc... not only hitachi, but a lot of other brands have this auto resume function.. depends on which model... |
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May 11 2014, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE [H2D,May 11 2014, 01:22 PM] Never experienced that even though last time my house used to near by the factory. (Penang Bayan Lepas area)bring up by the lifter and drop back to water,,,,,, this is the marketing gimmick used by LG to confuse consumers... yes, it can happen... when ur wash load is like what? only a few clothes, then it can happen, drop down.. then how high is the drop ah? the drum is only less than 2 feet? bout 2 feet? yes very very gentle drop down 'beating'... i agree, tht's y FL is always gentle it is true... in this vid, which i have posted earlier, it is like more of a gentle tumbling.... clothes are at best rubbing against each other gently... slow massaging those old TL washer.. with the batang in the centre and non rotating drum, yes it will twist very hard... clothes get tangled bcos only the pulsator is rotating, and the drum is static. i have 2 of those washers... compared to the latest TL tht i'm using now.... the difference is huge.. the whole of msia is not like the mid/ upper/high c modern housing area tht u r staying ... some areas will have power trips once in a while.... cos of nearby factory, or backyard industry overloading etc... not only hitachi, but a lot of other brands have this auto resume function.. depends on which model... That's why I mention one of the brand that I know, I never said the only brand. LG and Panasonic new top load look interesting  This post has been edited by mcloudteo: May 11 2014, 09:37 PM |
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May 11 2014, 05:36 PM
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Sengheng warehouse sale is today at Seri Kembangan. Anybody knows what model of washer/dryer combo is on sale there? Not listed on their info page.
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