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post Feb 7 2014, 04:12 PM

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Front loader? Not bad. If you stay in European countries.
Tropical countries better use top loader. My JVC WM already clocked 8 years and still standing strong. My old Panasonic last for 12 years.
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post Feb 7 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(jienfung @ Feb 7 2014, 04:23 PM)
Hi all sifu,

Need some advise, I am planning to get one LG WF-HX140GV type of WM. That how the sales person advise me to take this.

It this WM ok? Any other shop can recommend in Puchong/PJ, they charged me around RM2449.00.  rclxub.gif
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Do you really need 14kg?
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post Feb 7 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(jienfung @ Feb 7 2014, 04:46 PM)
I do not know there are 12kg available to choose for, this is what they recommend to me. I told them I do not need 14kg for my family.

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BTW, just some guide for you,
if you are a family for 4, even a 10KG will be enough. 1 matress can fit in to 10KG WM and some small items. But just a stupid question : how often you wash matress? 2 weeks or 1 month once only.
Getting bigger do have some advantages some times, but not all the time you will be using full load(this can kill the WM faster).
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post Feb 7 2014, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Feb 7 2014, 05:11 PM)
I assume you are referring to comforter, which is usually the largest single piece item that people wash at home. I think 12-14 KG range gives sufficient margin so you don't overstress the WM. One of the advantages of a larger washing machine is you can wash more clothes at the same time, reducing the number of washes. That saves you water in the long run, and therefore is more environmentally friendly.
Besides, sometimes the difference between 2 capacities for the same sized WM is just the drum size, so might as well buy the bigger WM... more bang for buck.
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You think only. Why you like to simply do assumptions. I have a matress(or comforter) which after I put it in, I still can put others. Now I only wash it individually because others tends to stuck the washing operation. If you spend some extra time on reading their manual, they suggest that big item shall be washed individually.
I know you try to deny every 1 of my statements, but then do think the logic behind first before trying to make your self stupid.

QUOTE(mihonkenji @ Feb 7 2014, 05:32 PM)
I chose not to believe a mattress can fit into it.  LOL  doh.gif  rclxub.gif
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Well, you can choose not to believe in me, after all, is your money. I only giving my experience on saving money.
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post Feb 7 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Feb 7 2014, 07:56 PM)
I'm not sure why you think that way. As far as I can tell I don't think I have said anything particularly disagreeable. I do not wash mattresses because I vacuum them, seeing how it would be impossible fitting 6 by 6 latex/coconut fiber Getha into a washing machine  smile.gif Comforters on the other hand, should I need to wash them, only go in individually. I think that's common knowledge seeing how the volume alone would fill the entire chamber. The 12-14 kg reference is really more for every day clothes and definitely you will save more if you wash less often. Why do you think hotels these days encourage us to help them reduce the washing frequency? The fact is, washing laundry really wastes a lot of water. If we can wash more clothes at one go we help save water compared to doing multiple loads
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Then in the first place you shall not using any washing machine. Case close, you use washing machine, sure waste water.
Hotel ask us to reduce is because their CEO need salary increase, that's it. I'm paying a premium for it, so I should be changing the towels everyday, for hygienic reason.By reusing towel for 2-3 days, chances of getting bacteria is higher.
BTW, since you keep on boasting bigger capacity washing machine is better and inverter air cond save a lot, how much your utilities bill cost you? Mine for the family of 3 only paying rm5 and electric bill rm70-80 a month.
And to burst your myth, using bigger washing machine do waste more water because out of 100 people, >90% of people like to see the cloths being submerged fully.
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post Feb 7 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Feb 7 2014, 08:44 PM)
I'd like to see where your 90% comes from.  I use a front loader btw, and once I set it to the desired cycle, I don't stick around to see whether it submerges fully as long as my clothes come out clean. Besides, washing machines these days have sensors to detect the load size to determine the necessary amount of water required. My water bill is also around RM5, sometimes a bit less, so it's no big deal.

For some reason I cannot fathom why, I seem to have an unintentional talent for infuriating you  sweat.gif Please don't take offense since there is none being given. I'm just sharing my own experience for the benefit of others as you are sharing yours.
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TL and FL are total different story. Don't generalize them as same. And for FL type, the sensor are detect based on weight.
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post Feb 7 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Feb 7 2014, 09:09 PM)
Like I said, I'm just sharing my own experience.
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But you only state you are using different after being busted. Fell down already still want to pick some dirt up? Lame.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Feb 8 2014, 12:52 AM)
Bigger WM do have many advantage.  And it is all the time.

I brought a FL 12kg combo WM not base on how many person. My minimum spec is,  the drum must able to chuck in the comforter. Mostly able to wash comforter is start from  12kg for FL. And must have this wash function mode too. Many don't have this washing mode. That put the lifespan at risk.

Bigger WM can reduce my frequent wash. I only wash once a week due to bigger drum. 5x a month include comforter. That save water, electricity and the WM lifespan.  Anpther save is the detergent. 5kg of detergent last me a yrs.

My bill doesn't increase much with this 12kg WM. That include sometime using the dryer too. mostly for comforter. RM65-70 for electricity and water still is free. Never pay a sen for water since many yrs.
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Well, my TL 10KG JVC WM that is the most simple function already used for 8 years and still standing strong. Do I need many types of washing mode? Nope, as at the end, the WM still using water, spin, drain and spin again. Or you want to say your FL can jump also?
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post Feb 8 2014, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 8 2014, 03:24 AM)
wf-hx120gv rrp = rm1999

quote from some shops...

HLK - 1699
TBC - 1720
TBM - 1750
Senheng - if member minus duno ? %
ESH - forgot, just call them
Onking - ?
Harvey - LG fler i met there said can get 1799.
these are my own assumption and opinion aft spending some time deciding/researching between fl tl...which brand...  rclxub.gif

don't trust any advice frm sa, they will come out with any cock n bull when they want to dispose certain model....
today this good, trow that good... doh.gif

washers today the quality is not the same like 10-20 years ago...

any brand/model will have the tendency to break down... luck is important...  laugh.gif
(maybe those expensive ones will have lesser chance)

For malaysia -
Samsung, LG - won't sell spare parts to consumers and dealers. ( called their cs to confirmed )
want to repair need to call them directly.

Pana, toshi, sharp, hitachi, electrolux - u can go there and buy parts on ur own.

LG is one of the world's largest washer manufacturer, top selling in US for several years,
their washer is sold in alot of countries.

Japanese brand mostly in SEA... can't even get/DL their user manual to study.

tbc....
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I never buy electric appliances from all the shop you mentioned, those shops are for people that opt for installments.
Cheap does not mean bad, expensive does not mean good. And for washing machine, which ever that having the less electronic parts tends to last longer.

QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 08:01 AM)
Just bought a samsung TL 10.5kg WM.been using a few times since i got it 2weeks back.so far so good.as for comforter today i try to wash a queen size comforter with the bed sheet,booster and pillow case.all set in. Anyone using this WM? As seems like many start using FL WM...

Hopefully this WM will last me long time...
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2 weeks? Long time more to justify. But try put in the comforter and see how much space you have, then only decide to put in more or not.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 12:04 PM)
Already tried this morning,full set queen size comforter with bolster,bed sheet and pillow case.still got soace for like 3-5piece of tshirt...but wont be doing so :-)
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So, can fit in and still have space.
As said, a 10KG already more than enough for day to day usage and once a while heavy laundry washing.
BTW, I'll ditch that comforter and use that comforter cover only. This is how I reduce my electric another rm30-40 a month.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 01:39 PM)
Yes can fit...is queen size comforter set...not sure about king size comforter set can fit or not.
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Now I know why you can still put others in. If king size you won't have much space anymore.
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post Feb 8 2014, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 8 2014, 05:25 PM)
I've been mentioning since 1st post that it is queen size.
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Never noticed, my bad.
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post Feb 10 2014, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Feb 10 2014, 10:45 AM)
There's actually a way to fit comforter covers. Some manufacturers especially from Japan will recommend folding it as if making a Chinese fold out fan. The loose ends on both sides always point inwards. Comforter/Duvet/doona itself has different filling so need to wash according to manufacturer's laundry directions. Some dry clean only, some need drying in the sun. But have to be careful. There are reported incidents of users dying from suffocation as they were overcame by fumes of chemicals used in dry cleaning process many years back overseas. Some comforter fillings cannot take to water as they might change form after that.

Anyway something interesting to share: fleece blankets. They are quite amazing. Use the longish hair side on the inside, it will keep the body warm. Turn it the other way round, it wicks heat out on a hot night. Don't understand why but that's what I discovered by accident. Bought one at One Utama and quite like it.
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Well, cotton sure washable. And I ditched the usage of comforter already which bring down my electric bill down for another rm30-40.

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post Feb 10 2014, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(halcyon27 @ Feb 10 2014, 11:09 AM)
Cotton duvet/comforter/doona cover yes. But the actual duvet/comforter/doona made from cotton insulation, well one I have seen are like parallel joint sections filled with cotton wool which can clump. I had one as a free gift from an appliance and they are like that. Those of down feather maybe not as bad.

Actually, what you say is the correct response to our local weather. Cotton blanket or light comforter cover cukup already.
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Yup, you are right. No meaning to use comforter and turn on the air cond for longer time. At the end, we got our lung weaker (doctor happier) and TNB gain more. Not to mention cleaning the comforter(it cost me another rm1 each time I wash it)
I got money, but I won't simply waste it. Once a month eat a Kobe steak meal at Gardens is better than contribute money to those blood sucker CEO's new mistress or new Merc S600.
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post Feb 11 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(Like a Bause @ Feb 11 2014, 12:58 PM)
how long have you been using borsch WM ? not controlled board not covered in warranty ?
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Those boards usually failed after 2-3 years. And if you got those older models, you no need to change the whole board and can be repaired.
But those comes with fancy functions it can't be repaired and you need to change the whole board.
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post Feb 13 2014, 01:39 PM

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Local shop usually offer better price. And when we buy more, we get more discount.
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post Feb 13 2014, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 13 2014, 02:08 PM)
for LG WF-HD850WM, i got quoted for RM990(HLK), this is the direct drive inverter model...
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Direct drive as stated "direct", it will spoil faster. My motor-belt-tube already clocked 8 years and I only need to change the belt.
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QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 13 2014, 03:22 PM)
my 1984 + 1996 belt till now no nid to change btw,,,,  rclxms.gif

oso there is no evidence to support tht DD will spoil faster...
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Well, mine also never change till now even it is quite noisy.
DD models just come out in the recent few years, so it take some time to prove it self. But some of the uncles I know that bought it, about 5-6 years they need to change.
DD is nothing special, is just a move by manufacturer to cut cost.
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post Feb 13 2014, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Feb 13 2014, 03:37 PM)
i don't think DD is recent years...

the few uncles doesn't represent thousands of washers out there...

of cos there are differences btwn DD n belt...

but if pay the same price for belt n DD, i will go for DD>....
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Yup, you are right.
But as you said, our statement won't represent thousands of washers out there.

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post Feb 13 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(cavaliars @ Feb 13 2014, 04:13 PM)
yup,after all the survey i done near my place end up i go normal electrical shop for the washing machine...i try my luck at harvey norman but no luck...pretty expensive this time...as compare to last time i manage to secure a fridge for very good price compare to even local electrical shop.
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HM is charging their display unit to end user also.

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