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westlife
post May 8 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ May 8 2014, 07:28 AM)
Honestly don't buy anything before renovation only buy it after or just before you wanna move in, after few months sometime new model will launch or you find a better model.

I once make the mistake I cancel one appliance and change the model of another appliance. (After a series of conversation with the shop)  tongue.gif
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Ic. Yup u are right. But so far ok. Those I bought, still new models, only tv changes, washing machine, built in oven etc the models do not change so far, so it is still ok.

And I bought earlier I save money too becos electrolux electrical appliances etc like washing machine etc price all are just up 1 to 2 mths back.

I bought getha king size harmony mattress last year at rm3800 after discount nett price. This year is rm4200 after discount nett price. Some of the things buy earlier are still good.

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post May 8 2014, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(jep @ May 8 2014, 11:00 AM)
I'm in a midst of renovating my house before moving in, can't decide yet to take front load to be built in with the kitchen cabinet or top load to put outside, wife inclined to front load, haven't used one before, any comments? It's only three of us in the house (Me, wife, 3 years old son), which size would fit for now and future?  rclxms.gif
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Size depend on how often you wash and what is the largest item you gonna wash (example comforter),

7 to 8 kg for 3 person is more than enough unless you change a lot of cloth everyday tongue.gif

If you want to wash queen or king size comforter then at least 10kg or more


normally front load use less water, more gentle to cloth and heater function (make detergent to work harder)

top load wash time shorter, can throw in extra cloth any-time, cheaper and few model also have heater function.



*sorry the other way round edited.

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post May 8 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 8 2014, 10:54 AM)
oooh that's amazing

my wife chose that model because her mum uses it

apparently

LG is saying their WMs are 50db, more silent than the 57db of typical machines

but

Toshiba saying their spin at 37/27db... amazing!
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When my WM was new, I tested with my company's decibel meter only register 20dB.
But now when it is spinning ~75% load, the noise are quite loud.
Any WM when new their spinning noise are minimum.
alexng2208
post May 8 2014, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 8 2014, 01:17 PM)
When my WM was new, I tested with my company's decibel meter only register 20dB.
But now when it is spinning ~75% load, the noise are quite loud.
Any WM when new their spinning noise are minimum.
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oh... that's good news
i dowan to have loud loud once. how about now? borrow me decibel meter can ah

once when WM reach and once when its 1 year from the first date brows.gif
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post May 8 2014, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 8 2014, 01:26 PM)
oh... that's good news
i dowan to have loud loud once. how about now? borrow me decibel meter can ah

once when WM reach and once when its 1 year from the first date  brows.gif
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I can't as I no more HSE engineer now sweat.gif
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post May 8 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 8 2014, 01:31 PM)
I can't as I no more HSE engineer now sweat.gif
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kidding oly la bosssss
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post May 8 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 8 2014, 01:32 PM)
kidding oly la bosssss
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If can sure I will borrow. Industrial grade equipment I have more trust as they are calibrated every 3 months, so the accuracy can be 99% drool.gif
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post May 8 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 8 2014, 01:33 PM)
If can sure I will borrow. Industrial grade equipment I have more trust as they are calibrated every 3 months, so the accuracy can be 99% drool.gif
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can test
1. WM
2. fans
3. aircon
4. ambient noise in each room

repeat these every half annually to see what has degraded most!
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post May 8 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 8 2014, 01:37 PM)
can test
1. WM
2. fans
3. aircon
4. ambient noise in each room

repeat these every half annually to see what has degraded most!
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1. degrade faster when you put close to full load all the time.
2. gets dirty and turn slower, after clean will still more or less the same.
3. blower unit won't really generate much noise, but the compressor unit may.
4. my house are quite far from main road.

For 2 and 3, as the motor are running on constant load, so won't really have effect much.
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post May 8 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ May 8 2014, 01:42 PM)
1. degrade faster when you put close to full load all the time.
2. gets dirty and turn slower, after clean will still more or less the same.
3. blower unit won't really generate much noise, but the compressor unit may.
4. my house are quite far from main road.

For 2 and 3, as the motor are running on constant load, so won't really have effect much.
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that's why
1. i only run full load once a week. is that more savvy than partial loads more often? it terms of water and electric savings and machine wear and tear?
2. if keep windows closed = less dusts. if wipe weekly then its good
3. hopefully stays that way. my old lg starts creaking (the swivel blades)
4. mine near factory
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post May 8 2014, 01:52 PM

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1. my water bill only rm5-8 every month and wash 1 time partial load take about 1 unit.
2, 3. can only say regular cleaning is the only way.
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post May 8 2014, 04:34 PM

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I bought the panasonic top loader eco navi NAFS16G3 for RM1800 plus RM320 for 1+4 extended warranty. Reason is, I am scared the board will burn after 3 years and I dont have warranty...

Anyway, the reason I bought was the control board at the back of the washer instead of in front. For a top loader, the control at the back makes more sense as you wont wet it when you load in presoaked clothes and when taking out clothes to dry.

I was looking around for toshiba but did not see any at RM1600 for 16kg! Most units I saw are rather expensive.

Been washing 4 comforters since I bought it.... saved Rm80 dobi fees...lol... It is awfully quiet...I keep forgetting it is on!




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post May 8 2014, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(mcloudteo @ May 8 2014, 12:34 PM)
Size depend on how often you wash and what is the largest item you gonna wash (example comforter),

7 to 8 kg for 3 person is more than enough unless you change a lot of cloth everyday  tongue.gif

If you want to wash queen or king size comforter then at least 10kg or more
normally top load use less water, more gentle to cloth and heater function (make detergent to work harder)

Front load wash time shorter, can throw in extra cloth any-time, cheaper and few model also have heater function.
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What u said abt top and front load terbalik liao....
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post May 9 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ May 8 2014, 06:33 PM)
What u said abt top and front load terbalik liao....
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Ya, top load use more water, front load use less water.
But top load's water won't cost bomb to ur water bill one la.. unless u wash it everyday few times for whole month.
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QUOTE(twins9 @ May 8 2014, 04:34 PM)
I bought the panasonic top loader eco navi NAFS16G3 for RM1800 plus RM320 for 1+4 extended warranty.  Reason is, I am scared the board will burn after 3 years and I dont have warranty...

Anyway, the reason I bought was the control board at the back of the washer instead of in front.  For a top loader, the control at the back makes more sense as you wont wet it when you load in presoaked clothes and when taking out clothes to dry. 

I was looking around for toshiba but did not see any at RM1600 for 16kg!  Most units I saw are rather expensive. 

Been washing 4 comforters since I bought it.... saved Rm80 dobi fees...lol...  It is awfully quiet...I keep forgetting it is on!
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homedec!!!

the land of deals! i saw a massive 17kg one (older model) for 1750. but then i gian want super direct drive

toshiba is so quiet that it needs a massively loud beep to tell you to dig out its internals
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post May 9 2014, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ May 8 2014, 06:33 PM)
What u said abt top and front load terbalik liao....
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ May 9 2014, 01:34 PM)
Ya, top load use more water, front load use less water.
But top load's water won't cost bomb to ur water bill one la.. unless u wash it everyday few times for whole month.
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Yea I know I typed it wrongly anyway edited.


btw I know it won't cost a bomb as I used to have 3 Top Loader, Panasonic, Toshiba and Hitachi and 2 Front Loader National and Hitachi WM tongue.gif


TL 1 at my family 2nd house, 1 my mom currently using and another 1 when I was studying.

FL National(now called Panasonic) my mom previous old long lasting WM and my own house Hitachi laugh.gif


btw I did calculate how it cost at my previous post can refer to here TL vs FL running cost (post 1372)

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post May 9 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ May 8 2014, 06:33 PM)
What u said abt top and front load terbalik liao....
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Front load always use lesser water compare to top load WM.
But for the same price you are going to spend, FL's max capacity are always smaller than TL's max capacity.
Seen the most reputable FL WM, it do uses lesser water compare to cheaper models and even perform better than TL by 0.5l. But you need to pay extra rm1200 just to safe 0.5l of water each wash doh.gif

QUOTE(sovietmah @ May 9 2014, 01:34 PM)
Ya, top load use more water, front load use less water.
But top load's water won't cost bomb to ur water bill one la.. unless u wash it everyday few times for whole month.
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Sellers always comparing the WM based on max load and will take a 10KG TL compare to 8KG FL.
Also, FL uses more power compare to FL. If each day a FL uses 1-2 unit more, 1 month already 60 units. You can do the maths on this.

QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 9 2014, 01:37 PM)
homedec!!!

the land of deals! i saw a massive 17kg one (older model) for 1750. but then i gian want super direct drive

toshiba is so quiet that it needs a massively loud beep to tell you to dig out its internals
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Is it whistling.gif
Before I commit a purchase, minimum shops I visit will be 10-20. Usually Homdec will put MSRP and then give some discount for it which still 20-30% more expensive than those no name shops hmm.gif
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Before I commit a purchase, minimum shops I visit will be 10-20. Usually Homdec will put MSRP and then give some discount for it which still 20-30% more expensive than those no name shops hmm.gif
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i love convenience and would pay for it

example

i visit 10 shops (minimum) and spend RM5 on petrol to and fro from each shop. That's RM50 doing research.

then the time-value

I spend 15 minutes haggling, and average 30 minutes travelling to and 30 minutes travelling back. 1.25 hours.

x10 that would be 12.5 hours.

so to save a maximum 30% on the 1600 offered or RM480, i would need to spend RM50 in fuel and 12.5 hours of research.

if i go to homedec

using the same methodology

i visit 1 shop with similar petrol = RM5. i spend 1.25 hours, and i get 15.7% discount (1899 - 1600) or RM299.
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post May 9 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 9 2014, 02:37 PM)
i love convenience and would pay for it

example

i visit 10 shops (minimum) and spend RM5 on petrol to and fro from each shop. That's RM50 doing research.

then the time-value

I spend 15 minutes haggling, and average 30 minutes travelling to and 30 minutes travelling back. 1.25 hours.

x10 that would be 12.5 hours.

so to save a maximum 30% on the 1600 offered or RM480, i would need to spend RM50 in fuel and 12.5 hours of research.

if i go to homedec

using the same methodology

i visit 1 shop with similar petrol = RM5. i spend 1.25 hours, and i get 15.7% discount (1899 - 1600) or RM299.
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Well, nobody asked you to visit the shops individually.
The shops that I visit most of them are fall on half way to my place to my mother's house, place to take lunch. Even Courts are nearby my house and I always pass by there.
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post May 9 2014, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ May 9 2014, 02:37 PM)
i love convenience and would pay for it

example

i visit 10 shops (minimum) and spend RM5 on petrol to and fro from each shop. That's RM50 doing research.

then the time-value

I spend 15 minutes haggling, and average 30 minutes travelling to and 30 minutes travelling back. 1.25 hours.

x10 that would be 12.5 hours.

so to save a maximum 30% on the 1600 offered or RM480, i would need to spend RM50 in fuel and 12.5 hours of research.

if i go to homedec

using the same methodology

i visit 1 shop with similar petrol = RM5. i spend 1.25 hours, and i get 15.7% discount (1899 - 1600) or RM299.
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Yea same to me, I will pay for the convenience too as long as it's in my acceptable range. lazy to travel here and there, visit here visit there, waste my time and energy to talk to sales

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