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TSLanEVOchris
post Jun 24 2008, 05:43 PM, updated 18y ago

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Welcome to the Tamiya Mini 4wd thread v3. Where we have our tech talk and discussion about Mini 4wd.


Mini 4WD Open Class Race Regulations

【 A 】 General Guidelines

1) Age Restrictions

None

2) Authorized Vehicles

All chassis except Wild Mini 4WD and Comical Mini 4WD

3) Authorized Bodies

Any Mini 4WD body (including R/C Mini 4WD)

4) Authorized Motors

Rev-Tuned Motor, Torque-Tuned Motor, Atomic-Tuned Motor, Normal Motor, Hyper Dash 2 Motor, Power Dash Motor, Sprint Dash Motor

5) Other

Tire diameter sizes may vary according to the different classes. (For example, tire diameter must be smaller than 26mm for the Small Diameter Tire Class).

【 B 】 Car Regulations

All participating cars must be 4-wheel drive. Cars modified to be rear wheel drive or front wheel drive are prohibited. All participating cars must have a body, either painted or with stickers applied, securely mounted on the chassis. Homemade bodies are prohibited. All cars must go through car inspection, and cars that fail to comply with the inspection warnings will not be allowed to race.

【 C 】 Car Measuring System

All chassis will be subject to the same measuring system as shown below.

* Maximum Car Width: Under 105mm
* Maximum Car Height: Under 70mm
* Maximum Car Length: Under 165mm
* Minimum Ground Clearance: At least 1mm
* Minimum Car Weight (including batteries and motor): At least 90g
* Front and Rear Tires: Diameter: 22-35mm, Width: 8-26mm (Note that tires must be attached.)
* Rollers: Maximum of 6 installations total (double rollers count as 1 installation, stabilizer poles do not count at all)


【 D 】 Motor Regulations

Motor modifications are absolutely not allowed. If any traces of modification such as removal of motor end caps are found, the racer will not be allowed to participate in the race. Depending on the event, other Tamiya-produced motors may be accepted. Use of motor tune-up sprays is prohibited.

【 E 】 Battery Regulations

2 R6/AA/UM3 batteries of either manganese, alkaline, or nickel-cadmium types that are readily available on the market can be used. If the battery appears to be damaged in any way, they will not be accepted for safety reasons. Please note that some events do have more specific limitations on which types of batteries can be used.

【 F 】 Modification Regulations

Please follow the guidelines below when modifying your car. Also note that for modifications not listed, race officials will have the final absolute authority to grant or deny their use.

1. Chassis modifications are limited to cutting away plastic material or cutting holes out of the stock chassis. Homemade chassis and homemade parts are prohibited.
2. Parts used for modification are limited to Tamiya Mini 4WD, R/C Mini 4WD, and Dangun Racer parts only.
3. Part modifications are limited to cutting away plastic material or making holes in the stock part.
4. Gear modifications are limited to making holes or shaving away material to reduce weight and installing ball bearings. All running gears must be installed according to the set gear ratios.
5. Only kit-included battery terminals or Grade-Up Part battery terminals, installed according to the instruction manuals, may be used. Soldering or double-plated terminals are prohibited.
6. Modifications that cause physical harm to the track, cause injury to any person, or release grease and/or other substances onto the track are all prohibited.
7. Modifications to the tire’s shape are allowed if they comply with the Car Measuring System outlined above. However, changing the material properties of the tire surface (including, but not limited to, applying glue or other substances to the tire surface) are prohibited.


Mini 4WD PRO Class Race Regulations

【 A 】 General Guidelines

1) Classes

Junior Class (15 years old and under)
Expert Class (16 years old and over)

2) Authorized Vehicles

Any MS Chassis car

3) Authorized Bodies

Any Mini 4WD body

【 B 】 Car Regulations

All participating cars must be 4-wheel drive. Cars modified to be rear wheel drive or front wheel drive are prohibited. All participating cars must have a body, either painted or with stickers applied, securely mounted on the chassis. Homemade bodies are prohibited. All cars must go through car inspection, and cars that fail to comply with the inspection warnings will not be allowed to race.

【 C 】 Car Measuring System

All chassis will be subject to the same measuring system as shown below.

* Maximum Car Width: Under 105mm
* Maximum Car Height: Under 70mm
* Maximum Car Length: Under 165mm
* Minimum Ground Clearance: At least 1mm
* Minimum Car Weight (including batteries and motor): At least 90g
* Front and Rear Tires: Diameter: 22-35mm, Width: 8-26mm (Note that tires must be attached.)
* Rollers: Maximum of 6 installations total (double rollers count as 1 installation, stabilizer poles do not count at all)

【 D 】 Motor Regulations

Only the kit-included double-shaft motor, Torque-Tuned Motor PRO, Rev-Tuned Motor PRO, and Atomic-Tuned Motor PRO can be used. Motor modifications are absolutely not allowed. If any traces of modification such as removal of motor end caps are found, the racer will not be allowed to participate in the race. Depending on the event, other Tamiya-produced motors may be accepted. Use of motor tune-up sprays is prohibited.

【 E 】 Battery Regulations

2 R6/AA/UM3 batteries of either manganese, alkaline, or nickel-cadmium types that are readily available on the market can be used. If the battery appears to be damaged in any way, they will not be accepted for safety reasons. Please note that some events do have more specific limitations on which types of batteries can be used.

【 F 】 Modification Regulations

Please follow the guidelines below when modifying your car. Also note that for modifications not listed, race officials will have the final absolute authority to grant or deny their use.

1. Chassis modifications are limited to cutting away plastic material or cutting holes out of the stock chassis. Homemade chassis and homemade parts are prohibited.
2. Parts used for modification are limited to Tamiya Mini 4WD, R/C Mini 4WD, and Dangun Racer parts only.
3. Part modifications are limited to cutting away plastic material or making holes in the stock part.
4. Gear modifications are limited to making holes or shaving away material to reduce weight and installing ball bearings. All running gears must be installed according to the set gear ratios.
5. Only kit-included battery terminals or Grade-Up Part battery terminals, installed according to the instruction manuals, may be used. Soldering or double-plated terminals are prohibited.
6. Modifications that cause physical harm to the track, cause injury to any person, or release grease and/or other substances onto the track are all prohibited.
7. Modifications to the tire’s shape are allowed if they comply with the Car Measuring System outlined above. However, changing the material properties of the tire surface (including, but not limited to, applying glue or other substances to the tire surface) are prohibited.





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post Jun 24 2008, 06:35 PM

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post Jun 25 2008, 09:49 AM

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Chris,
The Malaysia Stargek rules and regulations might need to revise. ;p
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Jun 25 2008, 09:49 AM)
Chris,
The Malaysia Stargek rules and regulations might need to revise. ;p
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Please refer the below link as the Malaysia Stargek Rules and Regulations ... nod.gif

http://www.tamiya.com/english/mini4wd/regulation_open.htm
http://www.tamiya.com/english/mini4wd/regulation_pro.htm
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post Jun 25 2008, 12:34 PM

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oso energizer max batteries ??

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Thanks for the updated Chris ...
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v4 already...congrats.... biggrin.gif
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nice... at last version 4... hope there's less wars... haha.
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Thanks ! Chris for the V4

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New track layout in TU now ... brows.gif
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New track layout in TU now ... brows.gif
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Interesting track layout's biggrin.gif

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hi all

daisheng + tamiya mixed products can join in here?

long time never play 4wd liao~ tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cancellation @ Jul 14 2008, 11:56 PM)
hi all

daisheng + tamiya mixed products can join in here?

long time never play 4wd liao~ tongue.gif
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sorry bro tamiya parts only

last weekend race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r6XkKHfwbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNBb_SHeca8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3u-j35EMIw

really happy that i got to race again since last year lucky still can win a prize . well congrats to my fellow racer mr eelan for winning this race.
been a bz body this race helping with the timer and stuff , from what i see there are really racers that will do anything to win as i see this really going to spoil the race sooner or later really regret to see this with my own eyes like using 2wd in a 4wd race boosting battery yeah the rule did nnot say no to boosting but i think its a bit unfair to newcomers who dont know how to win........ will be talking to the oganizer about this situation we will see what to do on october final race , yeah i will be racing 2 hahah long time no race hand itchy already if all is well will be coming for the sept race by then hope to see the (winning) be more fair but as i say everyone will have their right or wrong to defend in this situation.
cheers and happy racing

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David, is good to voice up those issue...
When r u going down to singapore for another qualifying race???
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 AM)
sorry bro tamiya parts only

last weekend race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r6XkKHfwbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNBb_SHeca8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3u-j35EMIw

really happy that i got to race again since last year lucky still can win a prize . well congrats to my fellow racer mr eelan for winning this race.
been a bz body this race helping with the timer and stuff , from what i see there are really racers that will do anything to win as i see this really going to spoil the race sooner or later really regret to see this with my own eyes like using 2wd in a 4wd race boosting battery yeah the rule did nnot say no to boosting but i think its a bit unfair to newcomers who dont know how to win........ will be talking to the oganizer about this situation we will see what to do on october final race , yeah i will be racing 2 hahah long time no race hand itchy already if all is well will be coming for the sept race by then hope to see the (winning) be more fair but as i say everyone will have their right or wrong to defend in this situation.
cheers and happy racing
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Hi David,

Nice to meet you face to face last week....

See the real sportamn ship in you ane your group....

Hope to have a friendly match with you guys...

Eleen... Congrats!!... But Beware.... as many of us are running after you...

Hee....hee.....


Added on July 15, 2008, 2:26 pmSurely... will prepare more cars for testing in the August race.... See you All!!

This post has been edited by tamiyaxiao: Jul 15 2008, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 15 2008, 03:26 PM)
Hi David,

Nice to meet you face to face last week....


Hope to have a friendly match with you guys...

Eleen... Congrats!!... But Beware.... as many of us are running after you...

Hee....hee.....


Added on July 15, 2008, 2:26 pmSurely... will prepare more cars for testing in the August race.... See you All!!
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match to learn more anytime

See the real sportamn ship in you ane your group.... what u mean


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post Jul 15 2008, 08:34 PM

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he means that you and your group dont cheat, and show real sportmanship.


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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 15 2008, 09:10 AM)
sorry bro tamiya parts only

last weekend race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r6XkKHfwbU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNBb_SHeca8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3u-j35EMIw

really happy that i got to race again since last year lucky still can win a prize . well congrats to my fellow racer mr eelan for winning this race.
been a bz body this race helping with the timer and stuff , from what i see there are really racers that will do anything to win as i see this really going to spoil the race sooner or later really regret to see this with my own eyes like using 2wd in a 4wd race boosting battery yeah the rule did nnot say no to boosting but i think its a bit unfair to newcomers who dont know how to win........ will be talking to the oganizer about this situation we will see what to do on october final race , yeah i will be racing 2 hahah long time no race hand itchy already if all is well will be coming for the sept race by then hope to see the (winning) be more fair but as i say everyone will have their right or wrong to defend in this situation.
cheers and happy racing
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Hi David,

Nice to see you the last weekend race and congrats to you and also to Eelen - won the race. smile.gif smile.gif
Boosting of the battery has been in the races since Tai Seng Corporations 4wd mini race till now.
This always happens when battery is not supplied by the official and moreover not stated in the rules.
As for the newcomers, regrets to say that I also been thru that since Tai Seng 4wd mini race and long way to learn all the chassis and settings which is more suitable for that particular track set-up.
Set up the technical track that stops people from boosting the battery.

The Final race - should be strict and all cars & motor's to be checked before the race start.

Hope to see you again in Singapore ! and also not forgetting the KL 4wd mini racers. smile.gif smile.gif



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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 16 2008, 12:30 AM)
Hi David,

Nice to see you the last weekend race and congrats to you and also to Eelen - won the race.  smile.gif  smile.gif
Boosting of the battery has been in the races since Tai Seng Corporations 4wd mini race till now.
This always happens when battery is not supplied by the official and moreover not stated in the rules.
As for the newcomers, regrets to say that I also been thru that since Tai Seng 4wd mini race and long way to learn all the chassis and settings which is more suitable for that particular track set-up.
Set up the technical track that stops people from boosting the battery.

The Final race - should be strict and all cars & motor's to be checked before the race start.

Hope to see you again in Singapore ! and also not forgetting the KL 4wd mini racers. smile.gif  smile.gif
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yes really hapy that u have point out the problem , as what i see the racers in singapore are less than what i see when in 2006
i hope that u can try to help newcomers also i think u are happy to do that right , at least they got chance then their interest will grow then more racermeans more races , regretfully to say what i am seeing in singapore had heappen in malaysia which have killed mini4wd racing here.
i am happy about your dedication to this hobby really hoping to race with u soon hahha no more challenge in malaysia.
so i hope that u can just spend some time looking at the beginners give them a tip or 2 so at leas they dont felt left oout in this race , i will also ask eelan to do the same to bring back mini4wd racing in singapore not just to see the same people racing all the time. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah... That's the spirit..... Real sportsman... Sure like to race with you in KL one of these day when I visit my relatives there...

BTW, I race for so long..also dun really know how to make a car setting faster or slower...

There are general guidelines over the net...

But when I tried to modify them, they perform otherwise...

Many factors .. to consider...


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hmm , maybe i should go there once again sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Jul 16 2008, 08:04 PM)
hmm , maybe i should go there once again sweat.gif
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Let me know if you interested ..
We planning to going down again at September ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 16 2008, 10:43 AM)
yes really hapy that u have point out the problem , as what i see the racers in singapore are less than what i see when in 2006
i hope that u can try to help newcomers also i think u are happy to do that right , at least they got chance then their interest will grow then more racermeans more races , regretfully to say what i am seeing in singapore had heappen in malaysia which have killed mini4wd racing here.
i am happy about your dedication to this hobby really hoping to race with u soon hahha no more challenge in malaysia.
so i hope that u can just spend some time looking at the beginners give them a tip or 2 so at leas they dont felt left oout in this race , i will also ask eelan to do the same to bring back mini4wd racing in singapore not just to see the same people racing all the time. icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi David,
The best was in SUN TEC race .. it was the biggest track ever set-up and the winning car came in about 45secs.
The biggest crowds was in Plaza Singapura race and it was about a few hundred racers and 2 separates tracks
was set-up. ( one for open race and the other for tamiya shop racer's to complete each other )

To promote Tamiya 4wd mini, Stargek has to organize more races at least once a month and more races during
the school holidays.

Thanks for compliments ! smile.gif I am glad that you also keeping this hobby alive over your side. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
For the newcomer's , they are always welcome to ask and share their views on the modications & settings.

Last 2 years, Stargek has organize more races than than this year.... it is a pity that they don't keep having races since
beginning this year. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 16 2008, 11:40 PM)
Hi David,
The best was in SUN TEC race .. it was the biggest track ever set-up and the winning car came in about 45secs.
The biggest crowds was in Plaza Singapura race and it was about a few hundred racers and 2 separates tracks
was set-up. ( one for open race and the other for tamiya shop racer's to complete each other )

To promote Tamiya 4wd mini, Stargek has to organize more races at least once a month and more races during
the school holidays.

Thanks for compliments !  smile.gif  I am glad that you also keeping this hobby alive over your side. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
For the newcomer's , they are always welcome to ask and share their views on the modications & settings.

Last 2 years, Stargek has organize more races than than this year.... it is a pity that they don't keep having races since
beginning this year.  sad.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif
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hahah that was long time ago maybe i still beginner.
happy that u are willing to help .
sorry ar but that day i think u boosted the battery right correct me if i am wrong,
i will be coming down this september just a suggestion we just race witout boosting just to enjoy racing among each other see we got chance to win racers boosting and i think we still stand a chance also give other chance lah hehehe brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
so ok or not with my offer hope to really enjoy racing with u and maybe tamiya xiao also can join


Added on July 17, 2008, 1:02 am
QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 16 2008, 03:24 PM)
yeah... That's the spirit..... Real sportsman... Sure like to race with you in KL one of these day when I visit my relatives there...

BTW, I race for so long..also dun really know how to make a car setting faster or slower...

There are general guidelines over the net...

But when I tried to modify them, they perform otherwise...

Many factors .. to consider...
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dont say race la got chance come to kl just visit me at the shop we can always talk mini4wd
got quite a big track in the shop so u can just bring car for testing see what improvement we can do brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif icon_idea.gif

This post has been edited by david tamiya: Jul 17 2008, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 17 2008, 01:00 AM)
hahah that was long time ago maybe  i still beginner.
happy that u are willing to help .
sorry ar but that day i think u boosted the battery right correct me if i am wrong,
i will be coming down this september just a suggestion we just race witout boosting just to enjoy racing among each other see we got chance to win racers boosting and i think we still stand a chance also give other chance lah hehehe  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
so ok or not with my offer hope to really enjoy racing with u and maybe tamiya xiao also can join

Sure... That'll be interesting... I'm most glad to take up the challenge... You not coming for the August race ? I am actively trying to modify my car setting and parts...yeah.. rclxms.gif


Added on July 17, 2008, 1:02 am
dont say race la got chance come to kl just visit me at the shop we can always talk mini4wd
got quite a big track in the shop so u can just bring car for testing see what improvement we can do  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Bro, I dun stay in Malaysia.... But.. I have been to your shop end last year.... Your track really BIG.... To bad I did not bring my car... as it was a family trip and I promise my wife ..."No Tamiya"....

Manage to buy some spare parts and got some discount from your colleagues thumbup.gif

I promise to bring one Tamiya car when I go on my next trip... ... Help to keep this secret from my wife ok.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 17 2008, 03:08 PM)
Bro, I dun stay in Malaysia.... But.. I have been to your shop end last year.... Your track really BIG.... To bad I did not bring my car... as it was a family trip and I promise my wife ..."No Tamiya"....

Manage to buy some spare parts and got some discount from your colleagues thumbup.gif

I promise to bring one Tamiya car when I go on my next trip... ... Help to keep this secret from my wife ok.. sweat.gif
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no problem lah still got chance too bad i did not get to meet u last year , if all is well we will meet again in sept u num7 that day right

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Hee...hee... Ya lor.... Busy testing my cars...

See you on Sep then..

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 17 2008, 01:00 AM)
hahah that was long time ago maybe  i still beginner.
happy that u are willing to help .
sorry ar but that day i think u boosted the battery right correct me if i am wrong,
i will be coming down this september just a suggestion we just race witout boosting just to enjoy racing among each other see we got chance to win racers boosting and i think we still stand a chance also give other chance lah hehehe  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
so ok or not with my offer hope to really enjoy racing with u and maybe tamiya xiao also can join


Added on July 17, 2008, 1:02 am
dont say race la got chance come to kl just visit me at the shop we can always talk mini4wd
got quite a big track in the shop so u can just bring car for testing see what improvement we can do  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  icon_idea.gif
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In all the races , I always testing out a few cars first with a slower motor and once they having no problems to complete the course.
After that I will change motors for a faster timings and boosting battery only for the speed track set up (when everyone started boosting it )hehehe
On that day, after a few tries on my car and change to hyper pro motor and it's came in the fastest time and after that I was setting my son car & my buddy car with boosting battery charge higher than the new battery charge and hopefully their can take that fast speeds...afterall u can see most of the regular racer's are boosting their batteries. My advice -not to any how boost battery it's might do more to your motor and also might damage
your car. Have to understand and observe the car performance..if not stable during the hump & change lane sections then dont keep boosting the battery. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
I am glad that you able come to Singapore in the September race and hope see you soon. smile.gif smile.gif
No problem at all ! hope that our cars can races all the way to the top 10 position. smile.gif
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 17 2008, 10:41 PM)
In all the races , I always testing out a few cars first with a slower motor and once they having no problems to complete the course.
After that I will change motors for a faster timings and boosting battery only for the speed track set up (when everyone started boosting it )hehehe
On that day, after a few tries on my car and change to hyper pro motor and it's came in the fastest time and after that I was setting my son car & my buddy car with boosting battery charge higher than the new battery charge and hopefully their can take that fast speeds...afterall u can see most of the regular racer's are boosting their batteries. My advice -not to any how boost battery it's might do more to your motor and also might damage
your car. Have to understand and observe the car performance..if not stable during the hump & change lane sections then dont keep boosting the battery. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I am glad that you able come to Singapore in the September race and hope see you soon.  smile.gif  smile.gif 
No problem at all ! hope that our cars can races all the way to the top 10 position. smile.gif
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Well, generally i dont see a point @ boosting batteries basically learn nothing. (Kinda unskilled IMHO) In the end of the day is the setting of the car not the batteries. If you're are there means you're are there. Please note that not EVERYONE boost their batteries and not all of them know how to do it. So stop stereotyping and give yourself reason to boost. Im not trying to have war, im just tellng you off. Thank You. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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how to boost battery....???never knew battery also can boost...whats the effect after boosting battery...???
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 17 2008, 11:41 PM)
In all the races , I always testing out a few cars first with a slower motor and once they having no problems to complete the course.
After that I will change motors for a faster timings and boosting battery only for the speed track set up (when everyone started boosting it )hehehe
On that day, after a few tries on my car and change to hyper pro motor and it's came in the fastest time and after that I was setting my son car & my buddy car with boosting battery charge higher than the new battery charge and hopefully their can take that fast speeds...afterall u can see most of the regular racer's are boosting their batteries. My advice -not to any how boost battery it's might do more to your motor and also might damage
your car. Have to understand and observe the car performance..if not stable during the hump & change lane sections then dont keep boosting the battery. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I am glad that you able come to Singapore in the September race and hope see you soon.  smile.gif  smile.gif 
No problem at all ! hope that our cars can races all the way to the top 10 position. smile.gif
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happy to hear that so i see u in sept this is going to be fun hahahh long time dont have this kind of thrill already so all the best la brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
(yeah sad to say motor and car is not a problem to me last race i bring around a dozen of new hyper brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif :hehe:and i did not boost to get 19sec so i am proud of myself hhehehe)

This post has been edited by david tamiya: Jul 18 2008, 12:54 AM
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wat the fastest timing recent race???
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
happy to hear that so i see u in sept this is going to be fun hahahh long time dont have this kind of thrill already so all the best la brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
(yeah sad to say motor and car is not a problem to me last race i bring around a dozen of new hyper  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  :hehe:and i did not boost to get 19sec so i am proud of myself hhehehe)
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QUOTE(doty @ Jul 17 2008, 10:53 PM)
Well, generally i dont see a point @ boosting batteries basically learn nothing. (Kinda unskilled IMHO) In the end of the day is the setting of the car not the batteries. If you're are there means you're are there. Please note that not EVERYONE boost their batteries and not all of them know how to do it. So stop stereotyping and give yourself reason to boost. Im not trying to have war, im just tellng you off. Thank You.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Yes ! I am agree with you boosting batteries - does not means the car can complete the course.
Please do not get angry over comments and did not means to you ! so please cool down ! smile.gif I have bracket it up my sentence.
By the way, please read my advice on my earlier forums and I have mentioned the car settings is more important !
I dont offend you at all and I does not required you to tell me off ! shakehead.gif


Added on July 18, 2008, 11:40 pm
QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 18 2008, 12:50 AM)
happy to hear that so i see u in sept this is going to be fun hahahh long time dont have this kind of thrill already so all the best la brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
(yeah sad to say motor and car is not a problem to me last race i bring around a dozen of new hyper  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  :hehe:and i did not boost to get 19sec so i am proud of myself hhehehe)
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Hi David,
My car timing also using hyper pro motor without boosting batteries lah ! smile.gif
Same to you ...wishing all the racers all the best ! Keep on change the settings of the car.
See you in September race ! smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 17 2008, 10:41 PM)
In all the races , I always testing out a few cars first with a slower motor and once they having no problems to complete the course.
After that I will change motors for a faster timings and boosting battery only for the speed track set up (when everyone started boosting it )hehehe
On that day, after a few tries on my car and change to hyper pro motor and it's came in the fastest time and after that I was setting my son car & my buddy car with boosting battery charge higher than the new battery charge and hopefully their can take that fast speeds...afterall u can see most of the regular racer's are boosting their batteries. My advice -not to any how boost battery it's might do more to your motor and also might damage
your car. Have to understand and observe the car performance..if not stable during the hump & change lane sections then dont keep boosting the battery. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
I am glad that you able come to Singapore in the September race and hope see you soon.  smile.gif  smile.gif 
No problem at all ! hope that our cars can races all the way to the top 10 position. smile.gif
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As an adult, we responsible of wat we've done, not keep dragging everyone into the water.
Thing started when david tamiya ask u if u got boost battery, answer can be simple as "Yes" or "No", but u keep telling the whole world that other racers also boosting their batteries. I tink is not so rite. Be a responsible racers & win the race with pride. if a racer won the race by cheating doesn't mean we gotto follow. (Of course i dun mean boosting battery is a cheating act coz rule nv state we r not allow to boost battery.) Pardon me if i unintentional offend anybody. Peace! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(5WD @ Jul 19 2008, 02:03 AM)
As an adult, we responsible of wat we've done, not keep dragging everyone into the water.
Thing started when david tamiya ask u if u got boost battery, answer can be simple as "Yes" or "No", but u keep telling the whole world that other racers also boosting their batteries. I tink is not so rite. Be a responsible racers & win the race with pride. if a racer won the race by cheating doesn't mean we gotto follow. (Of course i dun mean boosting battery is a cheating act coz rule nv state we r not allow to boost battery.) Pardon me if i unintentional offend anybody. Peace!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Right.... Show all of us what our cars are made of in Sep.... Already come out with a few new cars.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(5WD @ Jul 19 2008, 02:03 AM)
As an adult, we responsible of wat we've done, not keep dragging everyone into the water.
Thing started when david tamiya ask u if u got boost battery, answer can be simple as "Yes" or "No", but u keep telling the whole world that other racers also boosting their batteries. I tink is not so rite. Be a responsible racers & win the race with pride. if a racer won the race by cheating doesn't mean we gotto follow. (Of course i dun mean boosting battery is a cheating act coz rule nv state we r not allow to boost battery.) Pardon me if i unintentional offend anybody. Peace!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi 5WD,

I am not dragging any body and I have answer the questions to David ! n why you so offended ! blink.gif
Please read my earlier forums ok ! I always race my car with pride and I dont go around the world to complain whatsever is unfair.
By the way, are you been racing 4wd mini since Stargek started organize the races the past 2 years ?
As for me, most of the time is boosting back the used batteries back to their normal charge and this help to save some money on battaries cost...
and hope you understand this !
Dont you worry and I will answer all my actions that I have done as 4wd mini racer's.

Hope this forums is open discussions on 4wd mini car and please do not give negative feedbacks.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 19 2008, 04:36 PM)
Hi 5WD,

I am not dragging any body and I have answer the questions to David ! n why you so offended ! blink.gif
Please read my earlier forums ok ! I always race my car with pride and I dont go around the world to complain whatsever is unfair.
By the way, are you been racing 4wd mini since Stargek started organize the races the past 2 years ?
As for me, most of the time is boosting back the used batteries back to their normal charge and this help to save some money on battaries cost...
and hope you understand this !
Dont you worry and I will answer all my actions that I have done as 4wd mini racer's.

Hope this forums is open discussions on 4wd mini car and please do not give negative feedbacks....  smile.gif
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HI Uncletamiya,

Gotto make it simple. Wat I want to say is RESPONSIBLE. Quoted fr ur previous msg, (when everyone started boosting it ) & afterall u can see most of the regular racer's are boosting their batteries.. R u trying to telling ppl tat u r not alone? Or juz want to find some supporting points to prove tat boosting battery is nothing wrong coz majority win?? rclxm9.gif

And i'm not making use of tis topic to declare war, my intention is juz want to tell u tat be a responsible racer. When ppl question u dun simply point ur finger out & push everything away. I apologise if u feel offended & Happy Racing to all racers here!!

p/s: If a person juz accept positive feedback & reject negative feedback, there will be no improvement. My point of view. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 19 2008, 12:44 PM)
Right.... Show all of us what our cars are made of in Sep.... Already come out with a few new cars....  brows.gif
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tamiyaxiao happy that u have come out with new car this will be interesting hahah nice talking to u on raceday


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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 19 2008, 05:36 PM)
Hi 5WD,

I am not dragging any body and I have answer the questions to David ! n why you so offended ! blink.gif
Please read my earlier forums ok ! I always race my car with pride and I dont go around the world to complain whatsever is unfair.
By the way, are you been racing 4wd mini since Stargek started organize the races the past 2 years ?
As for me, most of the time is boosting back the used batteries back to their normal charge and this help to save some money on battaries cost...
and hope you understand this !
Dont you worry and I will answer all my actions that I have done as 4wd mini racer's.

Hope this forums is open discussions on 4wd mini car and please do not give negative feedbacks....  smile.gif
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uncletamiya just some question cos we here dont boost so hope u can just let me know , how much batt u use to boost cos long long time ago i also got boost but i charge with charger so can u tell the difference if u have tried it i just need it for my reference cos i think i will try to join more races in singapore and bosting is 1 of the way racers do in singapore (also want to try to win brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif )
(all places have its written and untold rules to follow it and exell on these terms make me fell crazy about racing mini4wd) so uncletamiya i will be coming for u hahah (try to beat your timing)

This post has been edited by david tamiya: Jul 19 2008, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 19 2008, 06:01 PM)
tamiyaxiao happy that u have come out with new car this will be interesting hahah nice talking to u on raceday

My pleasure!! Really wish the race is tmr... Then can try my car...  biggrin.gif


Added on July 19, 2008, 6:09 pm
uncletamiya just some question cos we here dont boost so hope u can just let me know , how much batt u use to boost cos long long time ago i also got boost but i charge with charger so can u tell the difference if u have tried it i just need it for my reference cos i think i will try to join more races in singapore and bosting is 1 of the way racers do in singapore (also want to try to win brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif )
(all places have its written and untold rules to follow it and exell on these terms make me fell crazy about racing mini4wd) so uncletamiya i will be coming for u hahah (try to beat your timing)
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Ya... ya.... I used to boost battery... but dun know what is the right way...... can share ?? drool.gif drool.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 19 2008, 06:01 PM)
tamiyaxiao happy that u have come out with new car this will be interesting hahah nice talking to u on raceday


Added on July 19, 2008, 6:09 pm
uncletamiya just some question cos we here dont boost so hope u can just let me know , how much batt u use to boost cos long long time ago i also got boost but i charge with charger so can u tell the difference if u have tried it i just need it for my reference cos i think i will try to join more races in singapore and bosting is 1 of the way racers do in singapore (also want to try to win brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif )
(all places have its written and untold rules to follow it and exell on these terms make me fell crazy about racing mini4wd) so uncletamiya i will be coming for u hahah (try to beat your timing)
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Hi David,
Just because you ask about boosting batteries and it's cause many people unhappy ! blink.gif doh.gif
* If in any ways that offend those racer's did not boost batteries and I will apologise !

I know in Malaysia race don't boost batteries ... in fact I told you before last year ! remember ! brows.gif brows.gif
Boosting batteries does not means your car can win the race.

Fyi, understand the layout of the tracks then you decide for yourself .. whether it is sensible or not ! doh.gif
Most importantly is to observe your car on first trial run on the course.
Please do not think that in Singapore race always can boost batteries and the organiser's will states in the rules or some changes to it.
At times when it is a technical track , you have to drain some charge before you let your car on the track.

My advise do not have that mind set to come after my car's cause win or lose is part the race .... most important to understand
those car's with a great speed and so steady that able to clear during difficult sections and try to understand & found a solutions to it.




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>david tamiya,
Thank you!

>tamiyaxiao,
Thank you!
hehe I try my best for the upcoming race, I am ok if got defeated will learn things from it.

>UNCLETAMIYA,
Thank you!


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I think boosting battery is a standard practice in Singapore from last time until now. To me, no right or wrong. However, since it is a "PRO TOUR RACE" I think take it as a challenge race without boosting battery. End of the day, you will be racing in Japan, not Singapore/ Malaysia.




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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 20 2008, 06:56 PM)
Hi David,
Just because you ask about boosting batteries and it's cause many people unhappy !  blink.gif  doh.gif
* If in any ways that offend those racer's did not boost batteries and I will apologise !

I know in Malaysia race don't boost batteries ... in fact I told you before last year ! remember ! brows.gif  brows.gif
Boosting batteries does not means your car can win the race.

Fyi, understand the layout of the tracks then you decide for yourself .. whether it is sensible or not ! doh.gif
Most importantly is to observe your car on first trial run on the course.
Please do not think that in Singapore race always can boost batteries and the organiser's will states in the rules or some changes to it.
At times when it is a technical track , you have to drain some charge before you let your car on the track.

My advise do not have that mind set to come after my car's cause win or lose is part the race .... most important to understand
those car's with a great speed and so steady that able to clear during difficult sections and try to understand & found a solutions to it.
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i think i have enough experiance to know what track i am racing in so no worries i will not boost blindly i am just asking to know more bout boosting.
well in my case i see that u have a fast and stable car so i set my target to beat your timing as a motivation to do better i dont think that is a negetive thing to do right u also have your targets in a race right if u cant make it this race it will be more challenging for the next which this is a point for u to improve and do better correct me if i am wrong cos to me this is ok if someone come after me it will drive me to do better drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
if i were to offend other racer bout boosting just feel free to tell me off then we just see who better in the coming race or a 1 to 1 fight also can (with hand and leg)
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Jul 20 2008, 06:46 PM)
>david tamiya,
Thank you!

>tamiyaxiao,
Thank you!
hehe I try my best for the upcoming race, I am ok if got defeated will learn things from it.

Bro, I will also try my best. I'm also learning from many experts... Very good example is YOU rclxms.gif 

Most important about the competitionis not winning the race... But to try my car and try to understand my car and improve them icon_idea.gif

>UNCLETAMIYA,
Thank you!
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I think boosting battery is a standard practice in Singapore from last time until now. To me, no right or wrong. However, since it is a "PRO TOUR RACE" I think take it as a challenge race without boosting battery. End of the day, you will be racing in Japan, not Singapore/ Malaysia.
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 20 2008, 09:15 PM)
i think i have enough experiance to know what track i am racing in so no worries i will not boost blindly i am just asking to know more bout boosting.
well in my case i see that u have a fast and stable car so i set my target to beat your timing as a motivation to do better i dont think that is a negetive thing to do right u also have your targets in a race right if u cant make it this race it will be more challenging for the next which this is a point for u to improve and do better correct me if i am wrong cos to me this is ok if someone come after me it will drive me to do better  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
if i were to offend other racer bout boosting just feel free to tell me off then we just see who better in the coming race or a 1 to 1 fight also can (with hand and leg)
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In this case then I better kept some batteries boosting secrets... hehehe brows.gif brows.gif
As for myself, it is always a lesson to learn from each race from the track set up. (as mini pro still a very new chassis to me not like the old chassis)
Aiyoyo ! if I have a few car .. so which car you wants to beat arh ! blink.gif blink.gif just kidding !
My advise is to set up more cars on different settings and trial run on the track set up and adjust the modications to the track conditions.
This is the only way to improve it !
You may noticed some car settings is about same during the race competition.

See you in September race ! rclxms.gif tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Jul 22 2008, 12:07 AM)
In this case then I better kept some batteries boosting secrets... hehehe  brows.gif  brows.gif
As for myself, it is always a lesson to learn from each race from the track set up. (as mini pro still a very new chassis to me not like the old chassis)
Aiyoyo ! if I have a few car .. so which car you wants to beat arh !  blink.gif  blink.gif  just kidding !
My advise is to set up more cars on different settings and trial run on the track set up and adjust the modications to the track conditions.
This is the only way to improve it !
You may noticed some car settings is about same during the race competition.

See you in September race !  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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hahah discuss ma the secret brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
if u have few car i will go for the fastest car too bad cant bring a lot of cars for testing this race just got 3 (try to travel light) i think not enough next race i will be ready (too long did not race hand shake then blur dono what to do cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif )
yeah about setting of some cars same that is normal everywhere
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I'm not very experienced in Tamiya Mini 4WD, but I have never heard of thing such as 'boosting' batteries.

How is it actually done? Care to share? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 22 2008, 01:30 AM)
hahah discuss ma the secret  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
if u have few car i will go for the fastest car too bad cant bring a lot of cars for testing this race just got 3 (try to travel light) i think not enough next race i will be ready (too long did not race hand shake then blur dono what to do cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif )
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Let me know if you interested ..
We planning to going down again at September ... brows.gif
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go down where ? SG ?
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go down where ? SG ?
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of caused ... brows.gif
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QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 22 2008, 09:00 PM)
wink.gif no problem... I think you can do better next race....
icon_idea.gif Also prepared 12 new car settings... Can't wait to test my car icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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wow now me cant wait to to see your cars this will be intersting so give me your best shot hahahahh cant wait for this
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
wow now me cant wait to to see your cars this will be intersting so give me your best shot hahahahh cant wait for this
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You mean ...you can't wait to see me spend more money on the race... cry.gif
That means one every of my family will try 3 cars... & equates to...
1 car at least 2 tries and new batteries every time.. === ($1 + $1) * 24 = $48 liao... doh.gif
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QUOTE(tamiyaxiao @ Jul 23 2008, 12:22 AM)
You mean ...you can't wait to see me spend more money on the race... cry.gif
That means one every of my family will try 3 cars... & equates to...
1 car at least 2 tries and new batteries every time.. === ($1 + $1) * 24 = $48 liao...  doh.gif
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cheap man $48 last time i race in malaysia alone also around $150 a race la

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jul 23 2008, 12:23 AM)
cheap man $48 last time i race in malaysia alone also around $150 a race la
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Bro, Last time before I have 2 kids,... I play S$100 to S$200 per race.... brows.gif

Now... Budget cut liao.... sweat.gif

Maybe I try to reduce that by testing these car at home...before the race...

Myt brother coming to my house this Friday... Anybody interested to join ? All welcome... thumbup.gif
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Bro, Last time before I have 2 kids,... I play S$100 to S$200 per race....  brows.gif

Now... Budget cut liao.... sweat.gif

Maybe I try to reduce that by testing these car at home...before the race...

Myt brother coming to my house this Friday... Anybody interested to join ? All welcome... thumbup.gif
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happy to meet crazy racer  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
all the best to u
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That's why I called myself.... "Tamiya-Xiao" brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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hi, i think this should be the right thread.

while spring cleaning my home i found these: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751990

i'm interested to sell them. please pm me for details.
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Are there still race events held for this? I still remember the good ol days... last event i remember was in One Utama several years back...
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wah... this thread so inactive ah... haha.
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because of u lo...
how r u now?
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me ah... i am at nanyang technological university. singapore. so not going tu recently. quite busy here. and seldom go back malaysia. transportation expensive. haha.
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Hello all my brothers in malaysia & singapore. I'm ronn from jakarta, can i join this forum?
First i want to show 2 of my cars, here they are:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/259006...36216fd.jpg?v=0
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3172/273521...145befa.jpg?v=0


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>Twins,
Today got Mini 4WD race in Compass Point, Singapore. There will be R/C grand finale race until Sunday. Hehe if free can go down to visit.

>ronn,
Welcome to this thread. Nice car. smile.gif
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ntu very far from city leh... haha. so quite lazy to go out of campus. hehe. wanted to see if near. haha.


Added on August 8, 2008, 11:49 pmronn, the cars are nice but 8 rollers. haha. we use 6 rollers.

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>ShuangShengEr ,
Dont be lazy. ;p travelling in Singapore is so easy and near.
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>mini4wd: Thx alot, it's nice to join here smile.gif

> ShuangShengEr: Thx brother. In Jakarta we can use 8 rollers, even at the Tamiya official race 2 months ago we are allowed to use 8 rollers. And sometimes in some races, non original rollers can be used too, we called it 75% Tamiya. Haha. 75% means rollers, ball bearing & roller stabilizing are non original... a low cost car lah... hahaha.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3166/273531...76d9d66.jpg?v=0
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Yo.... seems so many happening.... BTW, just some updates for the race on 08/08/08...

It was an easy technical track.... But...sigh... sad.gif...

There were 3 types of races...

At least one of our professional won 1st in Pro race....

The other 2 categories were won by beginner...

ha...ha...


Added on August 9, 2008, 3:37 pmBut anyway... I'll not stop modifying and improving my car settings ... Never give up.... see you on sep...cheers!!!

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wah... for so many days the thread had no replies... haha. i guess many people really quitted the hobby... sigh...
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QUOTE(ShuangShengEr @ Aug 24 2008, 11:19 AM)
wah... for so many days the thread had no replies... haha. i guess many people really quitted the hobby... sigh...
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Not quit lah... Just busy improving my cars... Maybe the rest are the same... tongue.gif
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When the next race going to held?
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hey everyone.. has a been a long time since i posted here..

so hows the tamiya scene now?
still many ppl playin ah david..

i wanna sell my old tamiya le.. got like 6 of it
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yo... long time no play tamia mini 4wd...
hard 2 see the track in mall now...
very long time ago many place also can play...
haha..
now where u all play at?
kl area?
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Hi everybody..
I'm from kuching, sarawak. Nice to know that there are still races in Smanjung n sgpore cos there aren't anymore here.Few years back, we use to have races using auldey models, after that modified trikes using chassis of swi, hjh and soda. Racing the trikes, we modified our cars to the fullest...manual reeling of armature, setting the rollers, chassis, boosting batteries....of cos, we use different tracks ..the cars won't jump anymore..they fly..Only a handful and same group compete later on cos beginers shy away and experience racers are quite reluctant to share their winning set ups...in the end, no more races cos no thrill competing with same group everytime..
If there are rules and regulations like in smanjung and sgpore , races would be fair to the experience and beginner alike...that should be started again here ... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(ShuangShengEr @ Aug 24 2008, 11:19 AM)
wah... for so many days the thread had no replies... haha. i guess many people really quitted the hobby... sigh...
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wanna tumpang here and ask something..as i noe tamiya will re-release dash yakuro tamiya 4wd.. is it can found in malaysia? like 1Utama tamiya workshop?
thanks for reply in advance smile.gif
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hi there!! im from kuching here.want to know if someone out there interested in buying motor from me.i got Hi Rev-Tuned Motor, Torque-Tuned Motor, Hyper Dash 2 Motor, Sprint Dash Motor.just pm me k!!!
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QUOTE(KyoLee @ Oct 9 2008, 12:47 AM)
wanna tumpang here and ask something..as i noe tamiya will re-release dash yakuro tamiya 4wd.. is it can found in malaysia? like 1Utama tamiya workshop?
thanks for reply in advance smile.gif
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Yup .. they are available but only two of the special edition is reaching Tamiya underground One utama which is the picture show ..
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^ When's this 1Utama event? I'm quite interested to go see...

Wow... Emperor... brings back memories smile.gif
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mini4wd race that have to confirm with the person in charge over there to see when is the next race .. so far if you lucky then you will saw some crazy fellow over there to test on their tamiya mini4wd for almost a day and their car are freaking fast and stable .. can learn some trick and tips from them also .. brows.gif
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i hv 1 too .. but the tire wore out @@" any place can buy it ?
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for spike tire there are no replacement part but other slick tire do have it ..
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well i just nid a tire to give tat thing run lol....
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hello I am back
r3ju7ce i need to ask you about the new event of the mini 4wd at 1 utama when is it ? biggrin.gif
is for pro class is it. one more thing how much is it the new emperor -dash 1? tongue.gif

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right now there is no event in Tamiya underground at the moment ..
The New Dash-1 Emperor are selling at @RM44 ...
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hmm.. hye guys~!!
this is mine... took it out from its box...
last time play it was in the year 2004... loooong time ago~*
ya ya.. i know, noob only...
hahaha...
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no worried ..
someday n00b oso is a pro .. brows.gif
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he's right someday you oso can be a pro.
o and r3ju7ce can the price of the new dash 1 (emperor) lower to
RM30-20?
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RM30~20 ?
Haha ..
I'm not the seller ..
I'm the racer ..
Maybe you tried to nego with the shop and see .. brows.gif
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RM30~20 ?
Haha ..
I'm not the seller ..
I'm the racer ..
Maybe you tried to nego with the shop and see .. brows.gif
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hey R3Ju7Ce, long time never saw you. so you came to singapore? got an sms from david that day but unfortunately i have exams soon so i could not join you all. hehe. so how was it?
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hey R3Ju7Ce, long time never saw you. so you came to singapore? got an sms from david that day but unfortunately i have exams soon so i could not join you all. hehe. so how was it?
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You FFK us .. cry.gif
haha .. just kidding ..
the race is very excite and also is very crowded as well .. and if you join the qualified race and you might be the Champ on that day .. brows.gif
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who is the seller ? blink.gif
can any one help me ask the seller?
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who is the seller ?  blink.gif
can any one help me ask the seller?
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you can ask david.or you can call the shop.
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QUOTE(freedem life @ Oct 28 2008, 10:06 AM)
who is the seller ?  blink.gif
can any one help me ask the seller?
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Of coz you need to go to his shop loh ... hmm.gif
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im interested to to buy a high torque engine for my project (not super high.. just above average). does anyone has a suggestion. sory, I dunno what to google. Hope sifus here can help
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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Oct 29 2008, 12:57 AM)
im interested to to buy a high torque engine for my project (not super high.. just above average). does anyone has a suggestion. sory, I dunno what to google. Hope sifus here can help
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Well .. i think Power dash with 19900RPM and 16 g-cm Torque will be suit your project.
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If this motor is fast then the second will be this motor ..

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Torque tuned Motor :
13600 RPM
Torque: 14.5 g-cm

All the above motor is a available in Tamiya underground One Utama .
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anyone want to sell their second hand motor like above?
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just came back from the pro tour 2008 grand finals last sunday i really enjoyed racing as i have not been racing so much these few years hahah
it was a good result for me (2nd) and congrats to my fellow forumer uncletamiya for winning this finals race
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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Oct 28 2008, 08:43 PM)
Of coz you need to go to his shop loh ... hmm.gif
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what type of grease do u guys use on your car??

is silicone grease ok?? how can i get the tamiya grease??
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QUOTE(makuyo @ Oct 29 2008, 11:05 PM)
what type of grease do u guys use on your car??

is silicone grease ok?? how can i get the tamiya grease??
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But you can purchase tamiya titanium grease if you wanted to .. dune whether is have stock left in Tamiya Underground.


Added on October 30, 2008, 12:26 am
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the pink car i got still not yet fix .lol
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waaa tamiya still on arh?
i stop quite long edi
i remember dash yongkuro or sumthing like dat when i was small i have all
den now got alot already
btw where u all play rite now?
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i hv an old car... duno wat name jor duno still can move a not


Added on October 30, 2008, 9:20 pmi hv this one

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but clear version de anyone interested =X

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david can you sell me RM 20-30 for the new dash 1(emperor)? biggrin.gif
pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls,pls x10 biggrin.gif
ths


Added on October 30, 2008, 9:58 pmI have 1 just like you
but no tunning
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Oct 29 2008, 09:06 PM)
just came back from the pro tour 2008 grand finals last sunday i really enjoyed racing as i have not been racing so much these few years hahah
it was a good result for me (2nd) and congrats to my fellow forumer uncletamiya for winning this finals race
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Hi David,
Thanks ! Congrat's to you too. rclxms.gif
Yes, indeed ! me too .... it was the climate of the race when the final race left you & me. biggrin.gif
Are you going to the World Championship Tamiya 4wd mini race in Shizuoka...?
I heard from Andrew that Eelen is going n representing Malaysia. biggrin.gif

Right now, I am busying planning the trip cause my family coming along & at the sametime visit some Japanese friends in Tokyo & Nagoya.
I likely going on 19NOV and be in Shizukoa on 21NOV and then later going to Nagoya & Osaka.
It's got to cost me a bomb..... approx SGD 8,000.00 at least.


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my motor has duno went where lao~
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Nov 1 2008, 12:20 AM)
Hi David,
Thanks ! Congrat's to you too.  rclxms.gif
Yes, indeed ! me too .... it was the climate of the race when the final race left you & me.  biggrin.gif
Are you going to the World Championship Tamiya 4wd mini race in Shizuoka...?
I heard from Andrew that Eelen is going n representing Malaysia.  biggrin.gif

Right now, I am busying planning the trip cause my family coming along & at the sametime visit some Japanese friends in Tokyo & Nagoya.
I likely going on 19NOV and be in Shizukoa on 21NOV and then later going to Nagoya & Osaka.
It's got to cost me a bomb..... approx SGD 8,000.00 at least.
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i am not going this year maybe sometime soon now planning to start a family so cant spend too much but no worries i will come over to singapore for min4wd races , all i can tell is this year will not be easy like last year just bring back good news both of u
what i achive last year is already enough to last me for sometime only guys there last year will know what really heappen brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Nov 1 2008, 09:20 AM)
Congratulation to UNCLETAMIYA!
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Thank-u ! and catch up with u in Shizuoka .... biggrin.gif


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i am not going this year maybe sometime soon now planning to start a family so cant spend too much but no worries i will come over to singapore for min4wd races , all i can tell is this year will not be easy like last year just bring back good news both of u
what i achive last year is already enough to last me for sometime only guys there last year will know what really heappen brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Hi David,
Sad to hear that... cry.gif but Happy to hear that u are starting a family ! Congrats rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
This year the Grand final race is not an easy race for all of racers...... sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif

Me and Eelen will do our best and hope to get a good results for all Tamiya racer's in Malaysia & Singapore. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 1 2008, 11:45 AM)
i am not going this year maybe sometime soon now planning to start a family so cant spend too much but no worries i will come over to singapore for min4wd races , all i can tell is this year will not be easy like last year just bring back good news both of u
what i achive last year is already enough to last me for sometime only guys there last year will know what really heappen brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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david tamiya can you sell me RM20-30 for the new emperor pro?
o and congratulation to uncletamiya and you biggrin.gif


Added on November 1, 2008, 6:03 pmcan you send the mini 4wd to here?
wangsa maju ,section 2


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Long time ago...
when i was young , I am Tamiya freak hahaha so
Here my tamiya:)
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My mini-Garage
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QUOTE(freedem life @ Nov 1 2008, 06:33 PM)
david tamiya can you sell me RM20-30 for the new emperor pro?
o and congratulation to uncletamiya and you  biggrin.gif


Added on November 1, 2008, 6:03 pmcan you send the mini 4wd to here?
wangsa maju ,section 2
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i cant sell u at this price 40 still can but u need to come here get yourself

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Long time ago...
when i was young , I am Tamiya freak hahaha so
Here my tamiya:)
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My mini-Garage
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can u keep 1 for me?
39 ok or not?
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Added on November 2, 2008, 3:59 pm
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Long time ago...
when i was young , I am Tamiya freak hahaha so
Here my tamiya:)
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My mini-Garage
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omg
can still run or not? hmm.gif

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can u keep 1 for me?
39 ok or not?
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Added on November 2, 2008, 3:59 pm

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can still run or not? hmm.gif
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of cause still can run... put some oil for it. i nvr touch it for long time ago......
what is 39?
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rm 39


Added on November 2, 2008, 4:20 pmdavid tamiya you still got chassis super 1 (s)(second hand)?

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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Nov 2 2008, 04:03 PM)
of cause still can run... put some oil for it. i nvr touch it for long time ago......
what is 39?
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QUOTE(freedem life @ Nov 2 2008, 05:16 PM)
rm 39


Added on November 2, 2008, 4:20 pmdavid tamiya you still got chassis super 1 (s)(second hand)?
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39 on lah u come lok for me
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>D.K.Prince,

Nice meeting you. Nice collections you have got.

May I know are those kits are new in box?



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Long time ago...
when i was young , I am Tamiya freak hahaha so
Here my tamiya:)
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My mini-Garage
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where r u?
to: david

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>D.K.Prince,

Nice meeting you. Nice collections you have got.

May I know are those kits are new in box?
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New? no sorry......... just i dint throw the box..... i had play their virgin laugh.gif
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Nov 3 2008, 10:59 AM)
New? no sorry......... just i dint throw the box..... i had play their virgin laugh.gif
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Haha its good that u still keep the box. Where you used to play mini 4wd last time?
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Nov 3 2008, 01:09 PM)
Haha its good that u still keep the box. Where you used to play mini 4wd last time?
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Mn..... most I remember are Selayang Mall and some shop(cant remember) Yeap..... before i 4get i got the Track( i dun noe how to spell it)
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Nov 3 2008, 02:08 PM)
Mn..... most I remember are Selayang Mall and some shop(cant remember) Yeap..... before i 4get i got the Track( i dun noe how to spell it)
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haha .. is that shop is located at the lower ground of the Selayang Mall named " Toys Kingdom "
Where by there got baby stuff and tamiya parts & track over there ? brows.gif
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haha .. is that shop is located at the lower ground of the Selayang Mall named " Toys Kingdom "
Where by there got baby stuff and tamiya parts & track over there ? brows.gif
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yeap but now still have? I though no more already.
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That shop no more already for long long time ago .. i was there about year 1996 ~ 1998 ..
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Yeap..... i start play tamiya, when i was primary, but now i'm already 21:) Mn........ 11years ++, i had been stop this hobbies

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When Pri 5 or 6, I played in basketball court or kindergarten playground, bought parts from Megaskate, Ampang. When secondary 1 or 2, used to play in Sogo and Gombak.
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Gombak got meh ?
I stayed there also didn't hear of that ..
Majority i know is Sogo and Selayang got only ..
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istarted at selayang mall in 95 but dono when will stop
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Hi David,
Thanks ! Congrat's to you too.  rclxms.gif
Yes, indeed ! me too .... it was the climate of the race when the final race left you & me.  biggrin.gif
Are you going to the World Championship Tamiya 4wd mini race in Shizuoka...?
I heard from Andrew that Eelen is going n representing Malaysia.  biggrin.gif

Right now, I am busying planning the trip cause my family coming along & at the sametime visit some Japanese friends in Tokyo & Nagoya.
I likely going on 19NOV and be in Shizukoa on 21NOV and then later going to Nagoya & Osaka.
It's got to cost me a bomb..... approx SGD 8,000.00 at least.
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SGD8000, a bit lower than my annual tuition fees. haha. studying here really costs a lot... cannot afford to touch tamiya now. see if i can still make a car out of my bunch of parts. hehe. you all enjoy ya! rclxms.gif

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SGD8000, a bit lower than my annual tuition fees. haha. studying here really costs a lot... cannot afford to touch tamiya now. see if i can still make a car out of my bunch of parts. hehe. you all enjoy ya! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Nov 3 2008, 06:49 PM)
Gombak got meh ?
I stayed there also didn't hear of that ..
Majority i know is Sogo and Selayang got only ..
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Ya have, next to Diamond square if I am not mistaken, the shop name 'da ka lok'
hehe but ppl play speed car (Ai-yu or Daiseng), battery Panasonic rechargeable (black color) haha.. There is another place got track Yaohan (The Mall).
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save one for me ok?(ms chassis) new emperor


Added on November 4, 2008, 9:58 amwhen its holiday a lot of ppl their?

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Nowadays kinda a lot ppl playing mini4wd in tamiya underground on weekend even is not school holiday yet .. brows.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 3 2008, 11:57 PM)
study first u will have your chance to play but make sure next time i come over we meet
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haha. i hope i can make it next time. just hope it's not exam period. biggrin.gif
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haha. i hope i can make it next time. just hope it's not exam period.  biggrin.gif
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Don't worry .. we will see you soon ... i mean soon .... brows.gif
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ah damn, this is soo nostalgic.. the last Tamiya I bought was when I was in Form 2... Beat Magnum. I recently went to Tamiya underground, I would guess that the cars have been revamped ?
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QUOTE(N00DL35 @ Nov 5 2008, 11:15 AM)
ah damn, this is soo nostalgic.. the last Tamiya I bought was when I was in Form 2... Beat Magnum. I recently went to Tamiya underground, I would guess that the cars have been revamped ?
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Nice to meet you. Revamped? Are you referring to the Mini 4WD MS PRO chassis?
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That are alot cars had been revamped. Now my cars totally different with those latest cars.
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wah long time didnt chat here... hows the tamiya world doing??
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>N00DL35,
Nice to meet you. Revamped? Are you referring to the Mini 4WD MS PRO chassis?
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I'm not to sure.. I don't think it's the MS PRO chassis... or is it ? I saw the Dash Emporer and a whole lotta other 1st generation Tamiya cars with new chassis... can't remember what chassis though...
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yea, that's the MS chassis...
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i can't come to tu
sorry can u send the model to my home?


Added on November 9, 2008, 8:01 pmy no bady one?


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anyone know where to get tamiya mini female and male connector?
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Hi. Are you from Malaysia? If yes, you can take a visit to address as following;

Tamiya Underground
B25,Basement 2 , New Wing
1 Utama Shopping Centre
03-7729 0553
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so when's the nxt comp in 1u? would like to check it out.
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so when's the nxt comp in 1u? would like to check it out.
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Yup, .. it locate in the underground B2 carpark there new wing section .. nod.gif

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what i meant was when is the next mini 4wd competition going to be held?
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halo i haven't played any Tamiya cars since the days of Black Manta Ray & Dyna Storm, not sure if i even spelled them correctly, but if i remember correctly they were rear wheel driven with 1 engine at the back. I think back then there's this Special ver model that is 4WD, or was it the other way round?

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david tamiya
i can't come to tu
sorry can u send the model to my home?


Added on November 9, 2008, 8:01 pmy no bady one?
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u pay me rm200 i send to u


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anyone know where to get tamiya mini female and male connector?
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drop by at the shop we have it


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im a new member and i want to buy tamiya cars. can someone help me please? particular im looking for crimson glory, neo burning sun.
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these cars are hard to find nowdays if got maybe very high price
now we major on the new ms chasis by the way if the track in the pic is yours i presume that u are a crazy racer ong time ago

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ok ok i will go to TU just save 1 for me ok?
is for RM39 ok.

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You reminded me i have a Red Crimson Glory, I applied the special stickers for Crimson Glory too, there's a phoenix, a japanese boy sticker and some dragons. But it's still of stock tyres coz i like the original rims...

BTW anybody mod their own engine? I remember it's about increasing the wire coil 1 side of the motor.

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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 12 2008, 11:40 AM)
You reminded me i have a Red Crimson Glory, I applied the special stickers for Crimson Glory too, there's a phoenix, a japanese boy sticker and some dragons. But it's still of stock tyres coz i like the original rims...

BTW anybody mod their own engine? I remember it's about increasing the wire coil 1 side of the motor.
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>advocado
Crimson Glory is a nice FM car, I like Aero Solitude as well.
We are now following Japanese official rules, modification of motor is restricted. However, last time when secondary 1, we used to mod Hyper dash motor, or just buy brand new motor (33,000RPM, 68,000RPM, 10,800RPM). then few year back got few crazy fella wire coil the motor.. hehehe..!
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May i know the price list for current parts? I remember the Red/Black motor used to be Rm50, the high end ones are gold or blue cover. I don't know their RPM, what about new motors, or do they cost rm300-400?

What's the difference between fm and new platforms? The bearings, wheel/tyres and "satays" are they still the same as before? I always wonder why they put spinning mechanism inside those wheels...
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QUOTE(advocado @ Nov 12 2008, 02:58 PM)
May i know the price list for current parts? I remember the Red/Black motor used to be Rm50, the high end ones are gold or blue cover. I don't know their RPM, what about new motors, or do they cost rm300-400?

What's the difference between fm and new platforms? The bearings, wheel/tyres and "satays" are they still the same as before? I always wonder why they put spinning mechanism inside those wheels...
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yeap..... i also dun noe RPM when i buy those motor too, i just knew the more expensive the more faster that motor hahaha.
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yeap..... i also dun noe RPM when i buy those motor too, i just knew the more expensive the more faster that motor hahaha.
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Hello everybody how can I get to tamiya underground from singapore central is their a bus from singapore to that place? and when is the right time to go their preferably during race time?

Thank you for those who will reply.
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QUOTE(aerosolitude2008 @ Nov 14 2008, 01:38 AM)
Hello everybody how can I get to tamiya underground from singapore central is their a bus from singapore to that place? and when is the right time to go their preferably during race time?

Thank you for those who will reply.
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if u are from singapore u can www.stargek.com
cos tamiya underground is in malaysia
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i can't go to tu
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david tamiya
i can't go to tu
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 15 2008, 12:18 AM)
up to u but last box left
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im looking for rare items went to stargek items their not so rare im actually a player and a collector. please help on how to go their thank you.
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QUOTE(aerosolitude2008 @ Nov 15 2008, 02:19 AM)
im looking for rare items went to stargek items their not so rare im actually a player and a collector. please help on how to go their thank you.
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what rare thing u are looking for we just opened for 2 years so we dont have rare things just new things
but i have some stuffs of my own can come over have a chit chat see what u want maybe i got place where u can get it
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david tamiya save 1 for me pls
ps: can u send it to wangsa maju
or u can send it to klcc's toy city


Added on November 15, 2008, 1:03 pmpls pls pls pls

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QUOTE(freedem life @ Nov 15 2008, 02:02 PM)
david tamiya save 1 for me pls
ps: can u send it to wangsa maju
or u can send it to klcc's toy city


Added on November 15, 2008, 1:03 pmpls pls pls pls
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i already said no sending
if u really want me to send pay the price i am asking for if not dont even bother
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QUOTE(aerosolitude2008 @ Nov 15 2008, 01:19 AM)
im looking for rare items went to stargek items their not so rare im actually a player and a collector. please help on how to go their thank you.
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hi,

I am a Tamiya 4wd mini collector's and racer too.
Feel free to contact me ... if you are looking for any rare Tamiya 4wd mini cars or parts. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 15 2008, 03:06 PM)
i already said no sending
if u really want me to send pay the price i am asking for if not dont even bother
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ok ok but save one for me
don't be angry
cool down pls sweat.gif


Added on November 17, 2008, 1:42 pmu can sold the last box
i don't have the money

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hi who know ( Tamiya RC NISMO Coppermix Silvia [Item #58373] ) is sell how much in malaysia ? i wan buy it ... see at here http://www.stargek.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=195
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is the avante mk3 azure here ?
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Hi all,
Good news ! I won the World Championship Tamiya 4wd mini " open " race and I am back in Singapore ....


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Hi all,
Good news !  I won the World Championship Tamiya 4wd mini " open " race and I am back in Singapore ....
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pics please
but its funny what they call it last year i go its the magnum world grand prix and this year the super momo-i cup

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how much is the atomic-tuned motor pro?
and what pro motor is the fastest.
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 28 2008, 10:53 AM)
pics please
but its funny what they call it last year i go its the magnum world grand prix and this year the super momo-i cup
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Hee...hee... I am more greedy... VIDEO, please... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Nov 28 2008, 10:53 AM)
pics please
but its funny what they call it last year i go its the magnum world grand prix and this year the super momo-i cup
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Hi all,

Here are some of the pictures taken.....

* Junior race

http://www.pronweb.tv/modules/newsdigest/index.php?code=1231



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biggrin.gif hello every one!

Frost from the philippines (Tamiya Manila) (i thinh irvinmerril is also from the philippines name sound familliar LOL) i was just surfing the net and i saw this forum.

ive been reading around (v3 and v4 tongue.gif )

nice work guys! thumbup.gif rclxms.gif thumbup.gif good thing you were able to give life to mini4wd racing again, it made me smile while reading through your developments thru the forums. i really wish mini 4wd racing here in the philippines can be as organized like your mini 4wd racing.

i just want to share the scene here in the philippines, all of the tracks here are 3lane technical courses. there are no pro races here (we tried racing pro but we were not able to gather alot of racers so it kind of died out). theres alot of tweaking done with our cars, we trimm our tires, break in our motors, and match our cells. our rules and regulations are based on the japan mini 4wd rules and regulations with some modifications. its very different here biggrin.gif a typical racer will own and race 10 kits, and the more hard core racers owns and races about 30 cars or more shakehead.gif and they are really hard to beat. biggrin.gif

i really hope i can race in singapore or malaysia someday, id like to try racing the 5 lane circuit. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(UNCLETAMIYA @ Dec 4 2008, 11:42 PM)
Hi all,

Here are some of the pictures taken.....

* Junior race

http://www.pronweb.tv/modules/newsdigest/index.php?code=1231
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QUOTE(Frost16 @ Dec 5 2008, 12:59 PM)
biggrin.gif  hello every one!

Frost from the philippines (Tamiya Manila) (i thinh irvinmerril is also from the philippines name sound familliar LOL)  i was just surfing the net and i saw this forum.

ive been reading around (v3 and v4  tongue.gif )

nice work guys!  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  good thing you were able to give life to mini4wd racing again, it made me smile while reading through your developments thru the forums. i really wish mini 4wd racing here in the philippines can be as organized like your mini 4wd racing.

i just want to share the scene here in the philippines, all of the tracks here are 3lane technical courses. there are no pro races here (we tried racing pro but we were not able to gather alot of racers so it kind of died out). theres alot of tweaking done with our cars, we trimm our tires, break in our motors, and match our cells. our rules and regulations are based on the japan mini 4wd rules and regulations with some modifications. its very different here  biggrin.gif a typical racer will own and race 10 kits, and the more hard core racers owns and races about 30 cars or more  shakehead.gif and they are really hard to beat.  biggrin.gif

i really hope i can race in singapore or malaysia someday, id like to try racing the 5 lane circuit.  biggrin.gif
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Please share with us races in Phillipines, I just met few filipino racers day before yesterday, I wish to visit to Phillipines to check out the Mini4wd world there.

The 5 lane circuit is only available in Japan. wink.gif
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does any1 play tamiya control car those sports car n 4wd car?
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do u play those tamiya control car? do any1 know tat where can i buy those tamiya car?

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Added on December 18, 2008, 10:11 amy no response? it sound like no body play at here much



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Added on December 18, 2008, 10:11 amy no response? it sound like no body play at here much
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Are you from Malaysia ?
cause as according David / KL / 1Utama that - Tamiya 4wd mini ... not much people playing ... sad sad

If you are from Singapore ... we still having races going on.
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David the Dash-1 emperor still have stock @ 1-utama?
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=880825&hl=

who got this item can sell me ??
i need 4ea roller
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i need 4ea roller
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tamiya underground still got stock for it ..
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David the Dash-1 emperor still have stock @ 1-utama?
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dash 1 , 2 , 3 in stock


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biggrin.gif  hello every one!

Frost from the philippines (Tamiya Manila) (i thinh irvinmerril is also from the philippines name sound familliar LOL)  i was just surfing the net and i saw this forum.

ive been reading around (v3 and v4  tongue.gif )

nice work guys!  thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  good thing you were able to give life to mini4wd racing again, it made me smile while reading through your developments thru the forums. i really wish mini 4wd racing here in the philippines can be as organized like your mini 4wd racing.

i just want to share the scene here in the philippines, all of the tracks here are 3lane technical courses. there are no pro races here (we tried racing pro but we were not able to gather alot of racers so it kind of died out). theres alot of tweaking done with our cars, we trimm our tires, break in our motors, and match our cells. our rules and regulations are based on the japan mini 4wd rules and regulations with some modifications. its very different here  biggrin.gif a typical racer will own and race 10 kits, and the more hard core racers owns and races about 30 cars or more  shakehead.gif and they are really hard to beat.  biggrin.gif

i really hope i can race in singapore or malaysia someday, id like to try racing the 5 lane circuit.  biggrin.gif
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hi there
from what i see different county got different types of races so its really good to get to know other racers from different part of the world to share the passion on tamiya mini4wd.
so if u are planning to go to singapore to race hope i can meet u there and share knowledge of mini4wd racing.

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why the MS pro class box there write "never use Ni-mH battery"
then can use wat rechargeable battery ??
where can buy it ?
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hi everyone its nice to see that mini 4wd craze are still alive in your country. here in dubai i hardly found anyshop selling stuff for that models. i found this shop with the old stocks of aero mini type and fully cowled type but unfortunately part and tune up are very disappointing coz only few are left. i wanted to rebuilt again this craze but i wanted to introduce this mini 4wd pro this time but cant find anyone to start with. sad i wish i can go to your country oneday and play there... cry.gif
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hi everyone its nice to see that mini 4wd craze are still alive in your country. here in dubai i hardly found anyshop selling stuff for that models. i found this shop with the old stocks of aero mini type and fully cowled type but unfortunately part and tune up are very disappointing coz only few are left. i wanted to rebuilt again this craze but i wanted to introduce this mini 4wd pro this time but cant find anyone to start with. sad i wish i can go to your country oneday and play there... cry.gif
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Not in Singapore..... we still have races organised by Stargek Singapore and some local shop races still going on. biggrin.gif

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that is so cool really? geez... i wanna try to play that much 24hrs nonstop playin my godness... my eyes strts to shine man.... hehehehe
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on sat from 4pm till late we will be testing cars to whom interested just come over and bring your car

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juz got my new car today ...
thanks rejuice help me setting something ...haha
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juz got my new car today ...
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juz got my new car today ...
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wow nice car there dude  rclxms.gif
rejuice never helped me on this b4 sad.gif
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hi,

i'm a noob to this forum, found this thread while browsing & searching for stuff at garage sales.
i used to race these 4wd cars way back in late 1996-1997. theres a few competition held in
selayang mall, galeria setapak, a shopping mall in pandan indah, summit square to name a few &
the last competition i've paid for but failed to compete was held in sogo(not 4wd).

herewith attached those few cars still under my custody. the rest, its either given to my nephew or
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i've read thru all the 11 pages & very suprised to know that there are still enthusiast
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thank you, and hope to get much advice from the pros.

cheers.




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heylo...just realize this topic la....
bring back memory....
recently i buy emperor...pro chasis..
but the upgrade part is so hard to find in kuchng....

also stil keping the old 1...what is the name...
gun bluster xto...cyclone magnum...

bcoz the orignl motor is to slow, i change the motor..sprint dash that
original is 4 the gun bluster..

now, it become 2wd drive..hehe...1 shaft only....hehe

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hi,

i'm a noob to this forum, found this thread while browsing & searching for stuff at garage sales.
i used to race these 4wd cars way back in late 1996-1997. theres a few competition held in
selayang mall, galeria setapak, a shopping mall in pandan indah, summit square to name a few &
the last competition i've paid for but failed to compete was held in sogo(not 4wd).

herewith attached those few cars still under my custody. the rest, its either given to my nephew or
neighbours kids as birthday present.

user posted image

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user posted image

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i've read thru all the 11 pages & very suprised to know that there are still enthusiast
to this hobbies, though its quite expensive to some.

thank you, and hope to get much advice from the pros.

cheers.
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Happy New Year 2009,


Anyone want to sell 520 bearing (2X5X2.5)
I m looking for 4 pcs.used go to David there only able to get 620.(cant fit inside)

History: Used to play 1st version mini 4WD,Avante & Saber(silver).

RM16.90 percar for that moment.
No race track are available also. (year about before 1993)

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Happy New Year 2009,
Anyone want to sell 520 bearing (2X5X2.5)
I m looking for 4 pcs.used go to David there only able to get 620.(cant fit inside)

History: Used to play 1st version mini 4WD,Avante & Saber(silver).

RM16.90 percar for that moment.
No race track are available also. (year about before 1993)
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wow still got ppl playing tamiya..anywayz its a nice hobby. Back to 4 years ago..im crazy bout tamiya and goto sunway pyramid every saturday and sunday to play...
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Gosh, this thread brings fond memories . . . can any mini 4wd join or must be tamiya only? I have few sets of diassembled cars . . . cuz i only focus on one, thing isits not full tamiya . . . chasiss n most parts are except, motor casing, magnets and roller ball bearings, hahaha. Ill post pics when im back home . . . i actuall nvr tried my car on a track for the current setting though . . . love the huge track at 1 utama . . . but dunno can it be used?
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Hi all,

" Happy New Year to everyone " biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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any1 can help 2 buy parts that can post it to kuching??
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cek pm
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Hi!... Im looking for a wheel similar to the image below, please advice where can I possibly get it... Thanks


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Hi!... Im looking for a wheel similar to the image below, please advice where can I possibly get it... Thanks
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this is an audley car so u can get the rims from audley from china
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in your place are'nt you using other product to setup your cars? actually i found that photo in mini4wd italia... i just wonder if i can get it also in your place. i visit some online store in your country but they are not selling any item other than tamiya... thanks for your help but if theres somebody whose willing to sell it online just pm me. thanks again

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Hi all, me long time no play Tamiya, just want to ask some experts here.
Between small and big wheels, which one is better? I've always like the appearance of big wheels, but my friend said small is faster?
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QUOTE(Mr Ez @ Jan 6 2009, 08:35 AM)
Hi all, me long time no play Tamiya, just want to ask some experts here.
Between small and big wheels, which one is better? I've always like the appearance of big wheels, but my friend said small is faster?
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tq dvid, atlis right now my car have somthing on it..heheh
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I get my dash one today at one utama tamiya underground. all look like Busy staff. No people come serve, anyway tamiya underground have many mini4wd parts to buy,can upgrade my old 4wd.
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QUOTE(zionanubis @ Jan 8 2009, 08:49 PM)
I get my dash one today at one utama tamiya underground. all look like Busy staff. No people come serve, anyway tamiya underground have many mini4wd parts to buy,can upgrade my old 4wd.
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hahha most of the customers know what they want so not much to serve and most are just browsing so we just let then enjoy the view
if u come yesterday u cant even buy the car as we are doing stock check
but if u need parts or cars u can just lok for us at the counter or at the pit area
and i know who are u cos u pay to me at the cash register

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Haha .. I do feel free when i in the tamiya underground without people following you here and there or else i will feel like annoying ... brows.gif
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David, I have a Nissan GTR 1/24th scale sports car series and really have no time to assemble it. Does your shop offer any service like assembling it for me? If so how much will you guys charge?
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David, I have a Nissan GTR 1/24th scale sports car series and really have no time to assemble it. Does your shop offer any service like assembling it for me? If so how much will you guys charge?
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u can try here they have people building for workmanship
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good to c this hobby is still alife rclxms.gif

Where can I find tracks for sale? Is it expensive?
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hey is anyone want to sell their strato vector kit? mettalic color is most priority...just send me email @ simplycoolblue@yahoo please... maybe you got one of this david tamiya

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hey is anyone want to sell their strato vector kit? mettalic color is most priority...just send me email @ simplycoolblue@yahoo please... maybe you got one of this david tamiya
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hahah too bad i am also loking for it for my own collection
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really!?.... so your my competitors huh?... hehehe... even japan does not release anymore of this model? you probobly had a friend there to scout the model for you?... and one thing more this special type of aluminium roller like spring cup, japan cup, are'nt they releasing this type of rollers very year? you have an idea?
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QUOTE(pepesmith @ Jan 13 2009, 03:07 PM)
really!?.... so your my competitors huh?... hehehe... even japan does not release anymore of this model? you probobly had a friend there to scout the model for you?... and one thing more this special type of aluminium roller like spring cup, japan cup, are'nt they releasing this type of rollers very year? you have an idea?
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too bad they dont do it every year but if they do it the rollers wont be priceless
actually philipines still the body havent try there yet maybe u will get it there
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david, can i send u postal money and u deliver the stuff to me tru post laju?
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david, can i send u postal money and u deliver the stuff to me tru post laju?
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Sry, I'm not old enough for that yet. Dunno even know how to bank in the money.
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how much is tamiya track??can list down all the models that u have now with the price??preferably two or more lane track.
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hai

just bump into some old tamiya at my area's pasar malam
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here's the problem.

it runs very very slow. i've changed the motor (i bought it at your place david hehe) but still, very very slow.

BTW, i found a Tamiya 4WD dyno (speed checker) at my place.

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wah..got the old skul 1 haa...
rare item la...heheh....
what motor do u use?
at my place, there r avante 2001 jr...RM43..is it worth it?
so mahal la...
how much u buy the astute?
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how much is tamiya track??can list down all the models that u have now with the price??preferably two or more lane track.
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2 lane track rm499 come with 2 cars


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hai

just bump into some  old tamiya at my area's pasar malam
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


here's the problem.

it runs very very slow. i've changed the motor (i bought it at your place david hehe) but still, very very slow.

BTW, i found a Tamiya 4WD dyno (speed checker) at my place.
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what motor are u using
at least use alkaline batteries to see power

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Hyper Dash 2

the only classic motor that i find at Tamiya Underground are this one and the RC one (black cover).

@arold88

you will not believe me for this. RM10

the classic one price jump high la. i see at Tamiya Underground the cheapest 1 is Brocken Gigant .... RM33.



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thanks for being so understanding david. smile.gif Not sure what to buy tho, can u help me with this problem --> I use a newly charged battery in my tamiya with a non-tamiya motor. All is well until I put it into the track - the engine got spin but the car doesnt move an inch! What should be the problem?
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mawar, aiya...so murah wooo....10rggt??
that is worth it..
rm33 the old 1 ka?
tomorw i want 2 buy the avante 2001 jr....even the price is 43....
i must buy ittttt
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QUOTE(MawarBiru @ Jan 17 2009, 04:16 PM)
Hyper Dash 2

the only classic motor that i find at Tamiya Underground are this one and the RC one (black cover). 

@arold88

you will not believe me for this. RM10

the classic one price jump high la. i see at Tamiya Underground the cheapest 1 is Brocken Gigant .... RM33.
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check ur gear,mayb its not touching against the other thus no movement at all...btw,ive a few brand new tamiya mini4wd n original tamiya engines up for sale:

-aero series
1. desert golem gpa
2.knuckle breaker
3.max breaker
4.phantom blade
5.storm cruiser
6.tamiya max breaker trf

- mighty
1. synchro-master z9

-super
1.liberty emporer
2.big bang ghost

-racing
1.dash 5 dancing doll
2.avante

-engines:
1.rev tunes
2.hyper dash 2
3.plasma dash
4.ultra dash
5.sprint dash
6.power dash


just helping those who wants to buy the model listed above.pm me for price...u can also pm me for the model that are not listed,i try to look for u as stocks are very limited...note: i do not sell mini 4wd accessories.
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wau...lots of good stuf u got...
personal collction or what?
is it loose item?
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las time my fren open a tamiya shop in kk...now closed ody...business no good cos not so many ppl play mini 4wd nowadays...now selling stocks leftover...
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ok....u sell it for me at half-price la....
get this 1 for 20rggit......hehehe
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who selling green gear for ms pro chassic 1 .. 3:5:1 ?

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hyekyo, can u xplen more y u need green gear?
is the green 1 more bttr than orignl 1?blue 1?
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ok....u sell it for me at half-price la....
get this 1 for 20rggit......hehehe
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best price?

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what best price?the car?
20 is the best prince i got it....
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Ratio 4:1 is the blue and orange gear = high speed gear
Ratio 3.5:1 is the green and pink gear = super speed gear.
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ok..thanks 4 clear things up bro...
still have to learnt lots of thing here...
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ok..thanks 4 clear things up bro...
still have to learnt lots of thing here...
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Added on January 20, 2009, 8:00 amJust posting up some old pic .... brows.gif
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i have a question here....
y in the web ,there said HPyPER-dash motor cannot b used
at official tamiya tournmnt?why haaaa....
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QUOTE(arold88 @ Jan 20 2009, 10:08 PM)
i have a question here....
y in the web ,there said HPyPER-dash motor cannot b used
at official tamiya tournmnt?why haaaa....
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Jay... TRF Motor Master A.J.E (Apai Janggoat Edition) tongue.gif , 70% completed...
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Yaa .. i saw the MMS yesterday from david's phone .. talking whether you are using photoshop and edit it on the screen .. muahaha ..
Well my JMT (Jay Motor Tuningmaster) have run-in his another HDPRO motor already .. ready to battle ... brows.gif
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Hello guys happy new year! Found this forum whilst searching for Mini 4wd Stuff. Looking forward to joining this year's Pro Tour in Singapore. Wondered if anyone here was frm 97-98? Here's the pic of my last ride. Gonna build a Pro for this year's race. ^^

Occasionally I will drop by KL and JB can anyone tell me anywhere in these places still have tracks and parts for playing/selling? I was at Midvalley a week back and I can't find any -.-

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Hello guys happy new year! Found this forum whilst searching for Mini 4wd Stuff. Looking forward to joining this year's Pro Tour in Singapore. Wondered if anyone here was frm 97-98? Here's the pic of my last ride. Gonna build a Pro for this year's race. ^^

Occasionally I will drop by KL and JB can anyone tell me anywhere in these places still have tracks and parts for playing/selling? I was at Midvalley a week back and I can't find any -.-

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drop by at 1 utama we have parts and track open for testing and i will be joining the pro tour 2009 if they do it again
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David tamiya underground have open during CNY? If no when it open? dash 1,2,3 still have stock?
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David tamiya underground have open during CNY? If no when it open? dash 1,2,3 still have stock?
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will open back on wednesday
only dash 2 and 3 left
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13lack.12ose, ur car look so evil la...
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already got another money-sucking hobby lol...

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aiya bro..y dscountenud?
keep it up la....
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@davidtamiya: Thx for the info. Will drop by 1 Utama when I am in KL and hope to see you in this year's race!

@arold88: Currently planning for a more evil Veldaga for this year's race in Singapore =D
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@davidtamiya: Thx for the info. Will drop by 1 Utama when I am in KL and hope to see you in this year's race!

@arold88: Currently planning for a more evil Veldaga for this year's race in Singapore =D
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I looking for type3 body dash1. Not "vs classic"
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what is type 3 spceiality?...just asking...newbie
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I looking for type3 body dash1. Not "vs classic"
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type 3 no more already long long long time ago
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25% completed MS Pro Chassis with front roller suspension (CNY no place to get parts doh.gif ):

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Update on the TRF Motor Master A.J.E... rclxms.gif

Welcome screen...

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System ready...

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Motor break-in mode...

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Motor speed checker...

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QUOTE(apai_janggoat @ Jan 27 2009, 10:50 PM)
Update on the TRF Motor Master A.J.E...  rclxms.gif

Welcome screen...

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System ready...

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Motor break-in mode...

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Motor speed checker...

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Definitely top-notch. Can it be used for the functions displayed? Or is it just display?
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13lack.12ose,
nice ride bro...
whts the spec?
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QUOTE(arold88 @ Jan 27 2009, 11:07 PM)
13lack.12ose,
nice ride bro...
whts the spec?
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Thx arold. Perhaps I can give u specification I am aiming for on the completed car.

Ride Height: 3.5cm (from ground to top of cover)

Roller width (affects cornering): 10.0cm

Roller length (from front to rear; affects stability and cornering): 12.5cm

Motor: Torque Tune (for Pro Tour Race; Atomic/Hyperdash Pro for others)

Gear Ratio: 3.5:1

Wheels and Tyres: Alu wheels and Hard low profile tyres front; Carbon wheels and low profile tyres rear

Front Bumper: 5 FRP of various sizes and spoilers cut from polycarbonate body

Rear Bumper: Wide Sliding damper (might add 3 set of rollers at btm) and 1 FRP cut

Chassis: Lightweight MS chassis with weight saving mods



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very detail la...tq 4 sharing..
it helps me 4 setting my car..coz actually dunno hw 2 set it..heheh
im using hyper-dash pro, what do u think?
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Update on the TRF Motor Master A.J.E...  rclxms.gif

Welcome screen...

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System ready...

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Motor break-in mode...

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Motor speed checker...

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Dah Dah Dah ... Bring it over to TU then we further modding it ..brows.gif
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is that thing realy work??
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hmmm.. i wan play back tamiya 4wd . but can anyone find tyre and engine for my shadow breaker @@
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QUOTE(arold88 @ Jan 28 2009, 06:04 AM)
very detail la...tq 4 sharing..
it helps me 4 setting my car..coz actually dunno hw 2 set it..heheh
im using hyper-dash pro, what do u think?
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If you are using hyper-dash pro, it's good to have a slightly bigger roller angle at the front to improve cornering stability.

To improve cornering speed, u might want to have ur roller width set at widest possible width (105 mm), though the downside to this is that there will be less space to land after a jump. Also have 3 sets of rollers so that the 3rd set (placed either at front or bottom) can be used to balance the car.

Adding Sliding Damper to the rear is my habit. It improves cornering speed by changing the direction of the car during cornering. Also it reduces energy loss for multiple corners/ waves.

Roller wise it's good to use ball bearing rollers and have the 3rd set of rollers placed as low as possible.

Lastly stacking 2 pieces of FRP can reinforce the car, making the front and back more rigid. This is crucial in maintaining cornering speed.

There's still alot I never cover (don't want to make the post too long) but hope this helps.

Just remember the golden Rule of Mini 4wd is to bring out the power of the motor as efficiently as possible whilst maintaining stability.


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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jan 27 2009, 10:25 PM)
type 3 no more already long long long time ago
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I last month buy still have many stock at tamiya underground, dash1 with dash2 cover. Rm50per box.

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I last month buy still have many stock at tamiya underground, dash1 with dash2 cover. Rm50per box.
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Type 3 chassis is not very good. The front does not have any angle and is too soft. Besides most parts now cannot fit into Type 3 chassis there is almost 20 years old.
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erm then shadow breaker is wat type of chasis @@?
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Type 3 chassis is not very good. The front does not have any angle and is too soft. Besides most parts now cannot fit into Type 3 chassis there is almost 20 years old.
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I buy for Collection only.
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QUOTE(zionanubis @ Jan 28 2009, 09:35 PM)
I buy for Collection only.
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I see sry for the misunderstanding. If u want the classic stuff then I suggest Yahoo Japan Auctions. For reissues there are alot out there.


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erm then shadow breaker is wat type of chasis @@?
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13lack.12ose, tq 4 xplanation...
so detail...now i must copy ur suggestion to the notepad...so i can folow it..heheh...
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so can i join u guys with my noob car ? actually my car de cover is transparent de .
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Jan 28 2009, 06:47 PM)
If you are using hyper-dash pro, it's good to have a slightly bigger roller angle at the front to improve cornering stability.

To improve cornering speed, u might want to have ur roller width set at widest possible width (105 mm), though the downside to this is that there will be less space to land after a jump. Also have 3 sets of rollers so that the 3rd set (placed either at front or bottom) can be used to balance the car.

Adding Sliding Damper to the rear is my habit. It improves cornering speed by changing the direction of the car during cornering. Also it reduces energy loss for multiple corners/ waves.

Roller wise it's good to use ball bearing rollers and have the 3rd set of rollers placed as low as possible.

Lastly stacking 2 pieces of FRP can reinforce the car, making the front and back more rigid. This is crucial in maintaining cornering speed.

There's still alot I never cover (don't want to make the post too long) but hope this helps.

Just remember the golden Rule of Mini 4wd is to bring out the power of the motor as efficiently as possible whilst maintaining stability.
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very detailed explanation even i cant come out with such stuff haahah will be looking forward to see your car in action in tu so i can learn a thing or 2
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HoNeYdEwBoY, post ur car's pic...love 2 see it..

thts right david, i read it twice to undrsnt it, yet, still confuse..heheh
still have lots of work to do...
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HoNeYdEwBoY, post ur car's pic...love 2 see it..

thts right david, i read it twice to undrsnt it, yet, still confuse..heheh
still have lots of work to do...
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i wnt that rim!!
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Jan 28 2009, 10:44 PM)
very detailed explanation even i cant come out with such stuff haahah will be looking forward to see your car in action in tu so i can learn a thing or 2
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Thx David. I will learn much from you as well. smile.gif

Much of my knowledge were gained when I was active back in 97-98. I still have no idea how to clear Hump S. rclxub.gif
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still have lots of parts that i need to buy..
can any1 xplen me whats the 1way wheel speciality?
is it increase speed?or stabalization?
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It works like car LSD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential

Correct me if i'm wrong ..
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QUOTE(arold88 @ Jan 29 2009, 01:06 PM)
still have lots of parts that i need to buy..
can any1 xplen me whats the 1way wheel speciality?
is it increase speed?or stabalization?
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One way Wheels improves cornering speed. Suppose your car is doing a right turn. The wheels on your left side (outer wheels) has to cover greater distance than the right side wheels (inner wheels). Using one way wheels will let the left side wheels spin more than the inner wheels, thus improving cornering speed by reducing drag experienced due to difference in distance travelled by left and right wheels.

However One way wheels are heavier than standard wheels and are slower on straights.
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oh..i c....so it improve cornering la...ok ok...
but..straights...slower...so..y not just use a powerfull engine...
so, even in corner or straight way...the car is fast...right?
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QUOTE(arold88 @ Jan 29 2009, 08:41 PM)
oh..i c....so it improve cornering la...ok ok...
but..straights...slower...so..y not just use a powerfull engine...
so, even in corner or straight way...the car is fast...right?
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then the car will fly on corners.

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Hi everyone,

" HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU !! "


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Post 3 pics of what I've done for past 2 days. Tmr resume work no time to modify. Sunday go down to Stargek and get parts and paints rclxms.gif

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Base colour will be red. Flames and Wording will be white. Windscreen and headlights will be Smoke.
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nice wheel u got bro..
ready 4 race haaa?
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Happy CNY to to UNCLE....no angpau??heheh
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cassplayer, u got cars?
im newbie of this thread...
post ur car's pic....

BTW, that tranparet body..is it polycrbnte like RC car?or is it hard just like ordinary body?...

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cassplayer, u got cars?
im newbie of this thread...
post ur car's pic....

BTW, that tranparet body..is it polycrbnte like RC car?or is it hard just like ordinary body?...
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hye guys... i just found this thread actually.. yesterday I saw my friend's Y!M avatar, he put up Liberty Emperor's picture in it and then we started talking about the long lost hobby of ours..

I have a question.. is this Tamiya Underground's track at 1U is open to public? Means everyone can bring their car and test the track? If its open, then can I use my heavily modified car (non-tamiya) to test the track???

Thanks!!!
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hehehe been to empress raceway to join a race today

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what?today is the race day ka david?
so?how is it?
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haha david so you are brocken g over their forums? How did the race go? drool.gif

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QUOTE(kari_convention @ Feb 1 2009, 01:06 AM)
hye guys... i just found this thread actually.. yesterday I saw my friend's Y!M avatar, he put up Liberty Emperor's picture in it and then we started talking about the long lost hobby of ours..

I have a question.. is this Tamiya Underground's track at 1U is open to public? Means everyone can bring their car and test the track? If its open, then can I use my heavily modified car (non-tamiya) to test the track???

Thanks!!!
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Tamiya Underground's track is open to public to test on ... icon_idea.gif


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lol long time never visit this thread
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Tamiya Underground's track is open to public to test on ...  icon_idea.gif


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Come over and visit us in TU !! brows.gif
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Looking forward to this hobby...

Anyone testing car this coming saturday... I had prepared 2 cars ready to test...

When david will be back?
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Just to confirm if 1 Utama is in KL, cuz I might be going KL for a day. Business trip.


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Looking forward to this hobby...

Anyone testing car this coming saturday... I had prepared 2 cars ready to test...

When david will be back?
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where is that david?
the pic?
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I had snapped some photo at my garage yesterday...

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guys, do u know where is shop that selling tamiya car and spare parts near KL especially bukit bintang area?

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hi there peeps.

i used to play this kinda cars when i was really young.
i still have the car now fully modded (minus cover, engine - black manta ray model) I was wondering if its worth selling if i put it up for sale.

Thanks.

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QUOTE(GiNgEr^fIsH @ Feb 5 2009, 01:42 PM)
hi there peeps.

i used to play this kinda cars when i was really young.
i still have the car now fully modded (minus cover, engine - black manta ray model) I was wondering if its worth selling if i put it up for sale.

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@ TMY KIA: Nice cars you have. I like the red avante best! =D
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i'll try to get a picture of it.
show u peeps.
if anyone is interested, i'll let it go really cheap. just really sad to see it rotting back home after i spent so much on it. thanks all.
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 6 2009, 01:08 AM)
I do think it will worth much unless it is MISB or MIB 1st issue models or limited edition ones. You can try Y! Japan Auctions and have a feel of the price.

@ TMY KIA: Nice cars you have. I like the red avante best! =D
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I had snapped some photo at my garage yesterday...

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hi guys, smile.gif last time i used to play tamiya owning the terung colour proto dunno wat, neo burning sun, manta ray, astute, sonic, black sonic, shao bai ron, dunno wat ghost, dancing doll, canonball, dash 1 emperor, tridager x, horizon, shooting star and a lot more but there is one particular car i love most

it is the great emperor.

unfortunately it fly off the track out of the building in 2nd floor and landed on a busy road in ipoh thus it become pancakeperor.

i hate decorating the car with colourful rims and also too many stabilizing pole which causes me my car sad.gif

the engine i used was some engine i get ..then i curl around a few more wires and put more battery plating in it. very powerful but only can withstand a few laps sad.gif

juz remind me of the good old days when i bump into these threads
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@kari: MISB/MIB means Mint in Sealed Box (ie never opened b4) and opened but never used/displayed b4
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hey, my wheels keep coming off! sad.gif what should i do?? I'm using the stock wheels btw.... help pls?
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hey, my wheels keep coming off! sad.gif what should i do?? I'm using the stock wheels btw.... help pls?
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1. Use superglue and stick the axle and wheels together
2. Cut a small piece of paper slightly larger than the hole on the wheels and put the axle in.
3. Paint the end of the axle with acrylic paint and attach the wheels and axle together after the paint drys
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3 methods:

1. Use superglue and stick the axle and wheels together
2. Cut a small piece of paper slightly larger than the hole on the wheels and put the axle in.
3. Paint the end of the axle with acrylic paint and attach the wheels and axle together after the paint drys
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will i be able to change the wheels after this? Er, is there a special kind of wheel that won't come off?
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will i be able to change the wheels after this? Er, is there a special kind of wheel that won't come off?
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Only with method 1 will u not be able to change the wheels (since you glued it).

Try using Lock-nut wheels they wont come off since each wheel is secured by a lock-nut.

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lock-nut ?...
never see this type of rim in TU website?..
or is it custom made?..
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try tamiya .com(english tamiya inc)
and you will see the lock nut rim it is a set
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david when tamiya underground have sell de dash 1 collection box 3&4 ?
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@ TMY KIA: Nice cars you have. I like the red avante best! =D
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haha you posted the pics b4 me ^^

Anw the track is very technical and the top 6 are all Super-FM chassis. My MS-PRO managed to get a time of 22.76 but aint fast enough to clinch a placing


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Tks. But lagged of speed...
Hmmm mind telling us the parts you used on your chassis (gear ratio, gold terminals etc)?

I always feel that cornering speed is more important than straight speed. Usually I would soak my rollers in zippo lighter fluid to clean away the dirt and lubricate them.

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Hello. I am glad to see you here in the internet world. Nice talking to you that day, and thank you for the suggestion. 22.76sec is good timing, as I didn't get any timing haha. My car didn't manage to go through the double jumps. SFM is good for speed technical, I think MS also can beat it as long front is heavier, chassis as lowered as possible, and the setups.
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 10 2009, 03:00 PM)


Added on February 10, 2009, 3:04 pm

Hmmm mind telling us the parts you used on your chassis (gear ratio, gold terminals etc)?

I always feel that cornering speed is more important than straight speed. Usually I would soak my rollers in zippo lighter fluid to clean away the dirt and lubricate them.
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All this are general setting.... any advise to improve it? Will zippo damage the bearing??

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Only with method 2 will u not be able to change the wheels (since you glued it).

Try using Lock-nut wheels they wont come off since each wheel is secured by a lock-nut.
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does tamiya underground sell them? O yah, is the new MS chassis much better than the one ones?
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 10 2009, 01:50 PM)
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@Eelen: Yeah MS PRO is quite a balanced and fast chassis, though I had to set the front angle to 10 degrees with O-rings on the rollers to clear the track. Roller width/length: 95mm/130mm. Motor used was Torque-tuned (3.5:1) with stock terminals and no bearings in the gear. For the double jump so long the car is fast enough it should clear it without problems. The trick is to fly over the 2nd jump. biggrin.gif

@TMY KIA: Frm the pics and the specs your car is ok. You might wish to use bearings and gold terminals for your chassis. Roller-wise I'd advised using rollers of similar diameter for front and back. Since the smaller the diameter, the greater the rolling resistance. In other words your front rollers are actually impeding the rotation of your rear rollers, resulting in a slight loss of speed.

Zippo Lighter fluid won't damage your bearings. Just suspend your rollers inside the liquid and let it sit overnight the dirt and all will settle at the bottom.

For the height of your rollers it's good to have the front set of rollers positioned in line with the axle of the car. Since this is where your roller is in line with the centre of gravity (in most cases) and little energy will be lost trying to balance the car if you set the front rollers too high or too low.

Ultimately the speed of your car should be relative to the track. setting and the motor. When I used to raced last time I'd always used a small 2 lane track (consisting of 8 curve pieces and 2 straight pieces) and I'd let my car run on the outer lane for 15 laps to test the speed of my car. If your setting is efficient it should be able to complete 15 laps with Torque Tune in around 11-12 seconds.

@GL91: I stay in Singapore so I cant answer you. Chassis-wise MS PRO is supposed to be the fastest chassis around (theoretically) but each chassis has its own pros and cons. If Super FM is for tech and TZ-X. VS is for speed, the MS PRO should be somewhere in between. smile.gif

Edit: Copper > gold for electrical conductivity, so should stick to stock terminals. Apologies for mistake blush.gif

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 10 2009, 11:56 PM)
@Eelen: Yeah MS PRO is quite a balanced and fast chassis, though I had to set the front angle to 10 degrees with O-rings on the rollers to clear the track. Roller width/length: 95mm/130mm. Motor used was Torque-tuned (3.5:1) with stock terminals and no bearings in the gear. For the double jump so long the car is fast enough it should clear it without problems. The trick is to fly over the 2nd jump.  biggrin.gif

@TMY KIA: Frm the pics and the specs your car is ok. You might wish to use bearings and gold terminals for your chassis. Roller-wise I'd advised using rollers of similar diameter for front and back. Since the smaller the diameter, the greater the rolling resistance. In other words your front rollers are actually impeding the rotation of your rear rollers, resulting in a slight loss of speed.

Zippo Lighter fluid won't damage your bearings. Just suspend your rollers inside the liquid and let it sit overnight the dirt and all will settle at the bottom.

For the height of your rollers it's good to have the front set of rollers positioned in line with the axle of the car. Since this is where your roller is in line with the centre of gravity (in most cases) and little energy will be lost trying to balance the car if you set the front rollers too high or too low.

Ultimately the speed of your car should be relative to the track. setting and the motor. When I used to raced last time I'd always used a small 2 lane track (consisting of 8 curve pieces and 2 straight pieces) and I'd let my car run on the outer lane for 15 laps to test the speed of my car. If your setting is efficient it should be able to complete 15 laps with Torque Tune in around 11-12 seconds.

@GL91: I stay in Singapore so I cant answer you. Chassis-wise MS PRO is supposed to be the fastest chassis around (theoretically) but each chassis has its own pros and cons. If Super FM is for tech and TZ-X. VS is for speed, the MS PRO should be somewhere in between.  smile.gif
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@ 13lack.12ose - Tks for yout advised, will try to applied and test...
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@David: Thx for the compliment. Don't think I'm a master lah, just sharing what I know with you guys. I am sure I have alot to learn from you all as well ^^.

@TMY kia: No Prob. Wish you luck ^^. Usually I remove the front bumper of my chassis so that I can set my front rollers much lower.
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[quote=13lack.12ose,Feb 11 2009, 06:36 PM]
@David: Thx for the compliment. Don't think I'm a master lah, just sharing what I know with you guys. I am sure I have alot to learn from you all as well ^^.

i cant teach as well as u
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[quote=david tamiya,Feb 11 2009, 08:26 PM]
[quote=13lack.12ose,Feb 11 2009, 06:36 PM]
@David: Thx for the compliment. Don't think I'm a master lah, just sharing what I know with you guys. I am sure I have alot to learn from you all as well ^^.

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>sonic_cd,
Yup, the car is running on VS, to make a difference from others*. Although all winning cars are SFM, if managed to complete 3 laps, I think SFM hard to beat the timing.
*me is kiasu. hahahaha

>13lack.12ose,
Please let me know if you are going down to TU, I will be in KL next week. smile.gif

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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 12 2009, 10:29 AM)
>sonic_cd,
Yup, the car is running on VS, to make a difference from others*. Although all winning cars are SFM, if managed to complete 3 laps, I think SFM hard to beat the timing.
*me is kiasu. hahahaha

>13lack.12ose,
Please let me know if you are going down to TU, I will be in KL next week. smile.gif
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>13lack.12ose,
Please let me know if you are going down to TU, I will be in KL next week. smile.gif
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No Prob. Will be leaving on 19th evening so hope have afternoon to play @ TU in the afternoon.


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Some tips and ideas I'd have. Feel free to discuss and correct me if I am wrong. I based my settings on Tamiya rules so I might not be able to share much on other settings which I am not familiar with.
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Roller Settings

Maximising Cornering Speed via Tilt Cornering: Roller Width 105mm, Roller Length 110~125cm Front roller in line with centre of gravity/ car axle. Roller angle should be at minimum ~ 1-3 degrees. Front roller Height < Rear Roller height. 3rd set of rollers (balancing rollers) is optional but should have a smaller diameter than your main rollers. The aim here is to achieve a tilt cornering, ie the outer rims do not touch the track at all during cornering, greatly reducing cornering drag. A narrow wheel base would allow for an easier tilt, though a wider wheel base can achieve a faster cornering if tilt cornering is achieved.

Tech Course: Roller Width 90mm~95mm. Balancing roller preferably placed in front as low as possible (ie having faster reaction time for the car to return to track during a jump). Angle should be 5~10 degrees depending of difficulty of track. O-rings and rubber caps for rollers can be added to help the car stay on track. (Might not be the fastest setting to clear tech tracks, just based on my own experience).


Reducing Resistance:

Resistance is what slows your car down. There are many types of resistance: i) contact friction, ii) weight, iii) aerodynamic drag.

i) Contact Friction- Points of contact for moving parts should have as little resistance as possible. Using ball bearings for all moving parts is essential. Place a spacer (those used for ball race rollers) in between the wheels and chassis help reduce contact friction.

ii) Weight- Contrary to popular belief, a heavier car might not be a more stable car. I'd be using a bit of science here to explain.

For every action there will be an reaction. ie a force that acts in the opposite direction to the forward applied force. All cars have a centre of gravity (CG). This CG remains at rest if the car is at rest. However when the car moves forward the CG will move back. Thus this explains why SFM are very good for tech tracks.

Now we look at the equation F=ma, where F is the resultant force, m is the mass of object and a is the acceleration. If our cars are heavy, this means our m is of a higher value. Given constant acceleration, the heavier car will have a greater momentum when it jumps thus making it fly further.

But what do we have to do in order to let our car remain light yet stable (in terms of weight). The answer is to shift the CG as close to the front as possible. This is why SFM and MS PRO are considered quite stable chassis. Either that or use mass dampers (old school set up of stacking rollers in stabilising pole is an example of this) that can alter the position of CG during jumps. Besides, a lighter car can achieve better acceleration and reach top speed much faster.

iii) Aerodynamic Drag

An aspect I feel many seldom pay attention to. Try using covers that have as little perpendicular surface as possible. This is why covers with low ride height tend to run faster as well. Some good covers would be Strato Vector, Tiger Zap (Super FM, TZ) Astute, Super Avante (Zero, VS) as well as T.Shot Mk II and Veldaga =P (MS PRO)

Having "tunnels" on the covers (air intake > air out-take) will create an area of low pressure inside the tunnel, creating downforce. Secondly the air coming out from the tunnel will also give that extra push to your car.

This effect was tested on my old Boomerang Fury with a ride height of only 2.5cm. The time without cover was 0.5s slower than when I put the cover rclxub.gif . I intend to add this to my currrent ride when I can find clear plastic pla-plates.
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No Prob. Will be leaving on 19th evening so hope have afternoon to play @ TU in the afternoon.


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Some tips and ideas I'd have. Feel free to discuss and correct me if I am wrong. I based my settings on Tamiya rules so I might not be able to share much on other settings which I am not familiar with.
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Roller Settings

Maximising Cornering Speed via Tilt Cornering: Roller Width 105mm, Roller Length 110~125cm Front roller in line with centre of gravity/ car axle. Roller angle should be at minimum ~ 1-3 degrees. Front roller Height < Rear Roller height. 3rd set of rollers (balancing rollers) is optional but should have a smaller diameter than your main rollers. The aim here is to achieve a tilt cornering, ie the outer rims do not touch the track at all during cornering, greatly reducing cornering drag. A narrow wheel base would allow for an easier tilt, though a wider wheel base can achieve a faster cornering if tilt cornering is achieved.

Tech Course: Roller Width 90mm~95mm. Balancing roller preferably placed in front as low as possible (ie having faster reaction time for the car to return to track during a jump). Angle should be 5~10 degrees depending of difficulty of track. O-rings and rubber caps for rollers can be added to help the car stay on track. (Might not be the fastest setting to clear tech tracks, just based on my own experience).
Reducing Resistance:

Resistance is what slows your car down. There are many types of resistance: i) contact friction, ii) weight, iii) aerodynamic drag.

i) Contact Friction- Points of contact for moving parts should have as little resistance as possible. Using ball bearings for all moving parts is essential. Place a spacer (those used for ball race rollers) in between the wheels and chassis help reduce contact friction.

ii) Weight- Contrary to popular belief, a heavier car might not be a more stable car. I'd be using a bit of science here to explain.

For every action there will be an reaction. ie a force that acts in the opposite direction to the forward applied force. All cars have a centre of gravity (CG). This CG remains at rest if the car is at rest. However when the car moves forward the CG will move back. Thus this explains why SFM are very good for tech tracks.

Now we look at the equation F=ma, where F is the resultant force, m is the mass of object and a is the acceleration. If our cars are heavy, this means our m is of a higher value. Given constant acceleration, the heavier car will have a greater momentum when it jumps thus making it fly further.

But what do we have to do in order to let our car remain light yet stable (in terms of weight). The answer is to shift the CG as close to the front as possible. This is why SFM and MS PRO are considered quite stable chassis. Either that or use mass dampers (old school set up of stacking rollers in stabilising pole is an example of this) that can alter the position of CG during jumps. Besides, a lighter car can achieve better acceleration and reach top speed much faster.

iii) Aerodynamic Drag

An aspect I feel many seldom pay attention to. Try using covers that have as little perpendicular surface as possible. This is why covers with low ride height tend to run faster as well. Some good covers would be Strato Vector, Tiger Zap (Super FM, TZ) Astute, Super Avante (Zero, VS) as well as T.Shot Mk II and Veldaga =P (MS PRO)

Having "tunnels" on the covers (air intake > air out-take) will create an area of low pressure inside the tunnel, creating downforce. Secondly the air coming out from the tunnel will also give that extra push to your car.

This effect was tested on my old Boomerang Fury with a ride height of only 2.5cm. The time without cover was 0.5s slower than when I put the cover  rclxub.gif . I intend to add this to my currrent ride when I can find clear plastic pla-plates.
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@ freedom: lol paiseh. But I assure you take your time to read it would help you much smile.gif
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i m doom!!!


Added on February 12, 2009, 9:35 pmthis year i got pmr exam


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i m doom!!!


Added on February 12, 2009, 9:35 pmthis year i got pmr exam
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haha very funyy


Added on February 12, 2009, 10:38 pmmy ms pro got a problem
it is making noise


Added on February 12, 2009, 10:40 pmthe noise come from the gear

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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 12 2009, 09:29 AM)
>sonic_cd,
Yup, the car is running on VS, to make a difference from others*. Although all winning cars are SFM, if managed to complete 3 laps, I think SFM hard to beat the timing.
*me is kiasu. hahahaha

>13lack.12ose,
Please let me know if you are going down to TU, I will be in KL next week. smile.gif
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No Prob. Will be leaving on 19th evening so hope have afternoon to play @ TU in the afternoon.


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Some tips and ideas I'd have. Feel free to discuss and correct me if I am wrong. I based my settings on Tamiya rules so I might not be able to share much on other settings which I am not familiar with.
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thats a pretty long but informative explanation there . smile.gif only 1 problem thoug the last statement ,the 1st 4 cars are errrr... hard to find .. tongue.gif
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thats a pretty long but informative explanation there . only 1 problem thoug the last statement ,the 1st 4 cars are errrr... hard to find ..

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Woow... Your infor definetly help us... tks

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@ sonic_cd: You're right. Goes to show how the designs of recent tamiya cars sux (exception Avante and Thunder Shot Mk II)

@TMY kia: Np, share share tips so all can improve on the car, only then can the hobby grow ^^
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@TMY kia: Np, share share tips so all can improve on the car, only then can the hobby grow ^^ <--- Nice one.
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Eelen you going for the Khatib race tmr?
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Eelen you going for the Khatib race tmr?
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i hope u get pics of the track tomorrow and if can vids so we can discuss about the race and track and car setup brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Consider it done, setup wise will have to ask the winners tmr, unless I am one of them brows.gif

Anw, just want to confirm if the terminals used on MS Pro chassis are made of copper. Cuz I just did a check and copper has a higher conductivity than gold.
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>13lack.12ose ,
Yes, I will be going. smile.gif
Cuz I just did a check and copper has a higher conductivity than gold. <-- Agree.
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 14 2009, 03:54 PM)
>13lack.12ose ,
Yes, I will be going. smile.gif
Cuz I just did a check and copper has a higher conductivity than gold.  <-- Agree.
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see you tmr then.

Hmm if this is the case how come there is still gold plated terminal? I know for old chassis (Super 1, TZ) they used brass or something else, thus the need for gold plated terminals. But since we now have copper terminals then aren't gold plated terminals unnecessary?

Btw Happy Valentines Day dudes and dudettes biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 14 2009, 05:08 PM)
see you tmr then.

Hmm if this is the case how come there is still gold plated terminal? I know for old chassis (Super 1, TZ) they used brass or something else, thus the need for gold plated terminals. But since we now have copper terminals then aren't gold plated terminals unnecessary?

Btw Happy Valentines Day dudes and dudettes  biggrin.gif
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>13lack.12ose,
I think is marketing gimmick. For example some upgraded parts just look nicer, but they are not really useful. hehe..
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>13lack.12ose,
I think is marketing gimmick. For example some upgraded parts just look nicer, but they are not really useful. hehe..
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that is the difference between noob and racer u can know just by looking at their cars
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 14 2009, 08:10 PM)
>13lack.12ose,
I think is marketing gimmick. For example some upgraded parts just look nicer, but they are not really useful. hehe..
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Yeah agreed. Stock Terrminal on MS PRO > Gold plated terminal rclxms.gif

QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 14 2009, 09:57 PM)
that is the difference between noob and racer u can know just by looking at their cars
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X2, that is why it's gd now that we have such forums to share tips for every mini4wd ethusiasts to improve their cars icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on February 14, 2009, 11:10 pmWorking in a shop with few customers has its privileges besides getting to ogle at ladies. This is what I've found whilst serving the web on slot cars (not Mini 4wd, but those that you can control with a wire trigger) to see if there are any useful info.

http://slotcarillustrated.com/portal/forum...isplay.php?f=90

Lucky find. In actual fact, motor layout for MS PRO, and rear/front mounted motor can be called inline and sidewinder

And this is the best find I feel worth sharing:

How Torque affects weight transfer: http://slotcarillustrated.com/portal/forum...ead.php?t=27555

Much implications, because this means that:

1. for MS PRO chassis, the torque from the motor will actually "lift" the left side of the car
2. for rear motor chassis like VS, the torque will press the front of the car.
3. for SFM, the torque will lift the rear car (another reason for the superb stability on SFM)

Another one worth sharing would be:

Tyre width and traction comparison: http://slotcarillustrated.com/portal/forum...ead.php?t=26725

Yet to digest it and see how it can be applied to Mini 4wd, though I feel it would be helpful.

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hello guys i'm a new mini 4wd player tongue.gif. want to ask, what is no.377 wide roller stay set (damped) for? as i know last time the no.15198 (Tamiya Rear Sliding Damper & Brake) that will actually improve cornering speed.

edited: added the code number for the old parts

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Hello. I do not think the sliding damper set will improve cornering speed, 'cause it will absorb impact in fact will slow down during cornering.
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Hello. I do not think the sliding damper set will improve cornering speed, 'cause it will absorb impact in fact will slow down during cornering.
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thanks for reply.

if want to improve cornering speed, should i maximize the front roller width and minimize the back roller width? i'm also thinking about what roller to use since there are a lot of options. which one are your favourite? (17mm, 19mm aluminium roller vs 9mm, 11mm, 13mm ball bearing roller?)
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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 15 2009, 12:10 AM)
>B-Mecha,
Hello. I do not think the sliding damper set will improve cornering speed, 'cause it will absorb impact in fact will slow down during cornering.
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Nono, Sliding damper works by changing the direction of the car during cornering, thus improving speed. I have been using this part since I started competitively back in 97.

We know that if front roller width> rear roller width the car will be faster during cornering because the direction of the car is shifted away from the track wall and more towards the direction of the turn. This means the tendency for the car to push against the track wall during cornering is less, and energy is more efficiently used for turning.

Using sliding damper has 3 advantages:
1. Faster cornering speed: Sliding damper works on the above principle during cornering. In fact it helps in wave sections as well since it smoothens the rapid change in direction.

2. Best of both worlds: Because sliding damper only changes direction during a turn, you can maintain an equal roller width for front and rear on straights---> good for jumps and straight speed

3. Absorption: It can help absorb centrifugal force experience in a turn, making the car more stable.

Do note though for effect 1 it only works if you install the sliding damper at the rear. Putting it in front will have an opposite effect.

Do a small test and you'll see smile.gif

@B-mecha: The new part has a wider width so when you install 13mm rollers the roller width will be the maximum of 105mm. Also the material used is reinforced ABS so it is less prone to bending compared to the old sliding dampers.

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 15 2009, 01:17 AM)
thanks for reply.

if want to improve cornering speed, should i maximize the front roller width and minimize the back roller width? i'm also thinking about what roller to use since there are a lot of options. which one are your favourite? (17mm, 19mm aluminium roller vs 9mm, 11mm, 13mm ball bearing roller?)
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 15 2009, 01:23 AM)
Nono, Sliding damper works by changing the direction of the car during cornering, thus improving speed. I have been using this part since I started competitively back in 97.

We know that if front roller width> rear roller width the car will be faster during cornering because the direction of the car is shifted away from the track wall and more towards the direction of the turn. This means the tendency for the car to push against the track wall during cornering is less, and energy is more efficiently used for turning.

Using sliding damper has 3 advantages:
1. Faster cornering speed: Sliding damper works on the above principle during cornering. In fact it helps in wave sections as well since it smoothens the rapid change in direction.

2. Best of both worlds: Because sliding damper only changes direction during a turn, you can maintain an equal roller width for front and rear on straights---> good for jumps and straight speed

3. Absorption: It can help absorb centrifugal force experience in a turn, making the car more stable.

Do note though for effect 1 it only works if you install the sliding damper at the rear. Putting it in front will have an opposite effect.

Do a small test and you'll see  smile.gif

@B-mecha: The new part has a wider width so when you install 13mm rollers the roller width will be the maximum of 105mm. Also the material used is reinforced ABS so it is less prone to bending compared to the old sliding dampers.
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bring your car to my track next week then we do test then we show the result here for other guys to understand and i will test my setup also to see how it compared to yours

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 15 2009, 01:10 AM)
my fav for speed will be a pair of 9mm at the front and 2 pairs of 19mm rollers with plastic ring


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bring your car to my track next week then we do test then we show the result here for other guys to understand and i will test my setup also to see how it compared to yours
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Surething! Looking forward to it rclxms.gif

Now modding my chassis for tmr's race


Added on February 15, 2009, 1:29 amBtw David, do you think it's good if we set a car that can be used for testing various effects next time? In this case we can have 2 cars, 1 car used as a control whilst the other is used to test various mods and effects.

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 15 2009, 02:18 AM)
Surething! Looking forward to it  rclxms.gif

Now modding my chassis for tmr's race


Added on February 15, 2009, 1:29 amBtw David, do you think it's good if we set a car that can be used for testing various effects next time? In this case we can have 2 cars, 1 car used as a control whilst the other is used to test various mods and effects.
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no prob can be done i have many cars to test brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 15 2009, 02:27 AM)
no prob can be done i have many cars to test  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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lol ok. I think stock is gd then we can limit the variables and get individual results of our testing more accurately. rclxms.gif
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lol ok. I think stock is gd then we can limit the variables and get individual results of our testing more accurately.  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 15 2009, 01:18 AM)
Surething! Looking forward to it  rclxms.gif

Now modding my chassis for tmr's race


Added on February 15, 2009, 1:29 amBtw David, do you think it's good if we set a car that can be used for testing various effects next time? In this case we can have 2 cars, 1 car used as a control whilst the other is used to test various mods and effects.
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control and test ? kinda like mythbusters .lol
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I hate mini-humps, I hate mini-humps. Hyper-dash took my SF to the moon, and torque tune showed us how to somersault a mini4wd (Yes, somersault). vmad.gif

Even till the very last minute and the very last ticket, the scorching sun did not dampen our will to clear it. So close yet so far away. When we thought we'd be getting a new record, the 360 degrees loop+ hump hammered the very last nail to our determined but futile efforts. cry.gif

But what falls will rise again. As the night beckons our racing spirit resurrected and we fathomed the unthinkable---> using hyper-dash pro on fresh batteries to conquer the dreaded bridge lane change. brows.gif

And succeed we did.

After a day of scarred cover (yes, the mini-hump gave my SF a nice long souvenir), flying wheels and tyres, I have to say, it was a glorious day indeed. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 16 2009, 12:25 AM)
I hate mini-humps, I hate mini-humps. Hyper-dash took my SF to the moon, and torque tune showed us how to somersault a mini4wd (Yes, somersault).  vmad.gif

Even till the very last minute and the very last ticket, the scorching sun did not dampen our will to clear it. So close yet so far away. When we thought we'd be getting a new record, the 360 degrees loop+ hump hammered the very last nail to our determined but futile efforts.  cry.gif

But what falls will rise again. As the night beckons our racing spirit resurrected and we fathomed the unthinkable---> using hyper-dash pro on fresh batteries to conquer the dreaded bridge lane change.  brows.gif

And succeed we did.

After a day of scarred cover (yes, the mini-hump gave my SF a nice long souvenir), flying wheels and tyres, I have to say, it was a glorious day indeed.  rclxms.gif
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this is racing so where is the pics

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Chill la boss, the pics are with Eelen. Give some time la smile.gif

Btw I am keeping the setting when I tested the hyper-dash so when we are at TU this week we can test again. rclxms.gif
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Chill la boss, the pics are with Eelen. Give some time la  smile.gif

Btw I am keeping the setting when I tested the hyper-dash so when we are at TU this week we can test again.  rclxms.gif
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okok just set a time and date and i will bring my cars
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Hello all, this my first post here.. Started playing tamiya 4 months ago and find it very interesting as it involves physics brows.gif . I know I have lots and lots to learn, hope you guys can help me biggrin.gif
Here's some qns Im pondering, maybe some pros can help answer and discuss too ^^

1) Rollers - Suppose you have the same car width regardless of which roller you use, which type of roller will be faster when turning?
(5mm,7,9,11,13mm ball bearing rollers, 17,19mm aluminium rollers)

2) Tires - For the tire width, why is it that most stock tires front width is smaller than the back? Will it be better if I were to use all tires of the same width?

3) Length of Car - What are both the pros and cons for having a longer or shorter car?

4) Track with jump after a corner - (Thought of this question in response to 13lack.12ose's guide few pages back)
Suppose the track is a turn, followed by a jump. My car did the tilt cornering for the corner, and enters the jump. As a result, the car enters the jump with a tilt and flies with a little tilt. (Any secret to help me achieve tilt cornering and yet achieve a straighter jump? drool.gif)

Hope you all can icon_question.gif ar ^^ TIA.

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1st question, which chasis is the best?

2nd question, do Tamiya Underground import new accessories?

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 15 2009, 11:25 PM)
I hate mini-humps, I hate mini-humps. Hyper-dash took my SF to the moon, and torque tune showed us how to somersault a mini4wd (Yes, somersault).  vmad.gif

Even till the very last minute and the very last ticket, the scorching sun did not dampen our will to clear it. So close yet so far away. When we thought we'd be getting a new record, the 360 degrees loop+ hump hammered the very last nail to our determined but futile efforts.  cry.gif

But what falls will rise again. As the night beckons our racing spirit resurrected and we fathomed the unthinkable---> using hyper-dash pro on fresh batteries to conquer the dreaded bridge lane change.  brows.gif

And succeed we did.

After a day of scarred cover (yes, the mini-hump gave my SF a nice long souvenir), flying wheels and tyres, I have to say, it was a glorious day indeed.  rclxms.gif
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long straight roads + mini humps + sharp cornering + 360 loop.... last night's race was a madness jumping track. with 6 tries i cant even finish half lap sad.gif

all other racer's parts make me drool.gif i'll get more parts someday.

btw where is TU? ops.. nvm i found out it is tamiya underground in one utama

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QUOTE(Kay86 @ Feb 16 2009, 06:44 AM)
Hello all, this my first post here.. Started playing tamiya 4 months ago and find it very interesting as it involves physics   brows.gif . I know I have lots and lots to learn, hope you guys can help me  biggrin.gif 
Here's some qns Im pondering, maybe some pros can help answer and discuss too ^^

1) Rollers     -     Suppose you have the same car width regardless of which roller you use, which type of roller will be faster when turning?
    (5mm,7,9,11,13mm ball bearing rollers, 17,19mm aluminium rollers)

for me will 9mm at the front 19mm at the back but cornering speed will also be determined by the length of the car condition of the motor batteries condition of the rollers bearings and such roller placement also important.

2) Tires     -     For the tire width, why is it that most stock tires front width is smaller than the back? Will it be better if I were to use all tires of the same width?

yes it will be better for speed track but as for thechnical track tire width choise will differ depending on track layout car setup and type of car


3) Length of Car     -     What are both the pros and cons for having a longer or shorter car?

too long will slow down your car in the corner while too short will make your car unstable but give u better cornering speed so depend on u how u want to set the length

   
4) Track with jump after a corner     -     (Thought of this question in response to 13lack.12ose's guide few pages back)
Suppose the track is a turn, followed by a jump. My car did the tilt cornering for the corner, and enters the jump. As a result, the car enters the jump with a tilt and flies with a little tilt. (Any secret to help me achieve tilt cornering and yet achieve a straighter jump?  drool.gif)

for this u will need to really observe the car while it is jumping then try diferent rollers or weight to control the car this will need quite a lot of track time for research . if u frequent tu u can just look for me and we see what can be done

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long straight roads + mini humps + sharp cornering + 360 loop.... last night's race was a madness jumping track. with 6 tries i cant even finish half lap sad.gif

all other racer's parts make me  drool.gif i'll get more parts someday.

btw where is TU? ops.. nvm i found out it is tamiya underground in one utama
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ohh still waiting for the photos to be posted for yesterdays race , just by hearing this track i cant wait to go over to race maybe some guys here is interested can join also
u can get your parts from stargek in paya leber


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Added on February 16, 2009, 11:39 am
ohh still waiting for the photos to be posted for yesterdays race , just by hearing this track i cant wait to go over to race maybe some guys here is interested can join also
u can get your parts from stargek in paya leber
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Woow... Happy to hear that from u, david. When r u going there? I able to join in March. Need to ready some $$$$ brows.gif brows.gif .....

currently some parts at TU are insufficient....
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Woow... Happy to hear that from u, david. When r u going there? I able to join in March. Need to ready some $$$$ brows.gif  brows.gif .....

currently some parts at TU are insufficient....
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now doing orders so no worries , so we wait for race date in march then we plan hahahaha my hand very itchy now
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OK OK.... lets plan ahead...

long time din play jump jump cars brows.gif brows.gif .....it recalled me " Uncle Style "



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Thank you very much participation on yesterday race. Hot weather really, after in the sun for few hours I got sunburned. Thank you for my good friend queing on behalf for me, ppl who spare me some tickets at the last min. After the race, It was fun playing car at night, some cars body cover with the LED on.

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Thank you very much participation on yesterday race. Hot weather really, after in the sun for few hours I got sunburned. Thank you for my good friend queing on behalf for me, ppl who spare me some tickets at the last min. After the race, It was fun playing car at night, some cars body cover with the LED on.

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we will be recieving new parts in about 1 to 2 weeks time

JR Fluorine Coated Gear Shaft - Straight 2pcs
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 16 2009, 03:54 PM)
we will be recieving new parts in about 1 to 2 weeks time

JR Fluorine Coated Gear Shaft - Straight 2pcs
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=> david, the multi setting frp.... shocking.gif ..... more $$$ to use .... cry.gif
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hey all..
newb here, been playing tamiya 2 years adi n then stop..dunno where adi the race and the competition and all..
want to know la..where do u all guys race la or competition?
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Photobucket is still taking centuries to load its photo uploader so I shall do a quick reply here b4 posting the settings I used for the previous 2 races.

@Eelen: Thx for the pics and the mass dampers. It really helps in the mini-hump. And the tyre too. Yesterday night after helping to keep the track still cannot find my tyre. blush.gif

@David: Ok. I will let you know tmr what time I'd be going. Will be bringing my car and a hyperdash/ torque tune. Buying parts too brows.gif

@B-mech: Nice meeting you yesterday. Perhaps we can go to Stargek when we both are free for parts. rclxms.gif

@TamiyaAye: There is no best chassis imho, since the positioning of motor will affects its centre of gravity and torque bias, leading to different characteristics. Thus, there is only chassis best suited for a particular track. If you are more into the technical tracks Super-FM would be your best bet. If you are a speed freak like me 1. MS-PRO, 2. TZ-X and 3. VS are gd (in order of personal preference). nod.gif

@TMY Kia: You see the track pics the mini-hump I kanna killed there blink.gif

@Kay86:
Ans1: I would opined that since friction in ball bearing is negligible, the larger roller would have a faster cornering speed. Reason 1: larger circumference leads to better track-to-track movement (since tracks have slight irregularities at joints) Reason 2: larger rollers have less rolling resistance ie less energy loss (for same distance travelled, smaller roller needs to spin more). Of cuz this is if u do not put O-ring on the large rollers.

Ans 2: Get 2 rulers and place the edge on the centre of front tyre leading to the centre of rear tyre. You will see that it coverges into the centre. leading to straight running stability. Thus, Narrow front wide back will improve straight running. Conversely wide front narrow back will improve cornering (not recommended). Using narrow tyres will naturally reduce drag thus leading to faster speed and longer battery life. Narrow all: speed>stability. Wide all: speed<stability (converse for tilt cornering). nod.gif

Ans 3: I feel 12~13cm (the setting I run in, depending on rollers I use) gives the best bang for the buck. A shorter roller length will allow for more fluid corner/wave transition, whilst a longer roller length will improve on the stability of the car, esp @ bridge section.

Ans 4: Tilt cornering is dependent on the centrifugal force as well as relative positioning of your CG and rollers. The moment your car exits the corner there will be no tilt and the car will naturally rest on 4 wheels. With the length of the jump, your car should jump straight no problems.
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Helo guys...
Hi David, if i was not mistaken, u r the blue shirt guy tat handle cashier part isit? If i m wrong, sorry...
(So cool one, abit scary sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif JKJK nod.gif )

If u don really remember me, jus now i hv gone to TU and i bought Savanna Leo one.

Anyway, i stil consider as a newbie though i been plying Tamiya 4wd 10 years ago n stop. I saw my old car also sien, 60% not Tamiya.
Hope anyone here can teach me something about how to modify my new car(But now so poor)... Thanks.
Hope I being welcome... blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 16 2009, 09:35 PM)
Helo guys...
Hi David, if i was not mistaken, u r the blue shirt guy tat handle cashier part isit? If i m wrong, sorry...
(So cool one, abit scary sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  JKJK nod.gif )

If u don really remember me, jus now i hv gone to TU and i bought Savanna Leo one.

Anyway, i stil consider as a newbie though i been plying Tamiya 4wd 10 years ago n stop. I saw my old car also sien, 60% not Tamiya.
Hope anyone here can teach me something about how to modify my new car(But now so poor)... Thanks.
Hope I being welcome... blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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I see Tom Ghody Special, Liberty Emperor Black Special and Big Bang Ghost all 1st edition releases biggrin.gif
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Oh is u... Nice to meet u...

Ha, sure i wil come to practice, I might come in week end if free.
But my car stil so poor now, and i think i sud use back my non-tamiya rollers or some part 1st and then upgrade 1 by 1 until perfect.
Hope i am being welcome although not 100% tamiya accessories yet.

Who's going to play tis week end? Let go together wan...? brows.gif
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 16 2009, 10:45 PM)
Oh is u... Nice to meet u...

Ha, sure i wil come to practice, I might come in week end if free.
But my car stil so poor now, and i think i sud use back my non-tamiya rollers or some part 1st and then upgrade 1 by 1 until perfect.
Hope i am being welcome although not 100% tamiya accessories yet.

Who's going to play tis week end? Let go together wan...?  brows.gif
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it is ok la cos my main concern is the track as some guys dont care about the track some use screw as brake so many scar at the track as u guys know la broken track cant play anymore
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 16 2009, 09:53 PM)
it is ok la cos my main concern is the track as some guys dont care about the track some use screw as brake so many scar at the track as u guys know la broken track cant play anymore
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Lol, got those kind of ppl one... Use screw as brake "so cool"... rclxub.gif
Actually 4wd now stil using brake system one meh? I mean in correct way...

Actually most of my accessories was bought from the supermarket last time, the production company's logo is a circle wif 9(forgot wat name oredy). Now look at it also wan vomit... ugly...
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 16 2009, 11:13 PM)
Lol, got those kind of ppl one... Use screw as brake "so cool"...  rclxub.gif
Actually 4wd now stil using brake system one meh? I mean in correct way...

Actually most of my accessories was bought from the supermarket last time, the production company's logo is a circle wif 9(forgot wat name oredy). Now look at it also wan vomit... ugly...
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brake is commonly used now cars are fast so sometimes needs brake before the jump
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 16 2009, 10:13 PM)
Lol, got those kind of ppl one... Use screw as brake "so cool"...  rclxub.gif
Actually 4wd now stil using brake system one meh? I mean in correct way...

Actually most of my accessories was bought from the supermarket last time, the production company's logo is a circle wif 9(forgot wat name oredy). Now look at it also wan vomit... ugly...
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in fact the brake system evolved... these are the 3 new brake parts

Tamiya (#94646) - Tamiya MS Chassis Plate Brake Set
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Tamiya (#15361) - Tamiya Underside Stabilizing Head Set
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Tamiya (#15377) - Wide Roller Stay Set (Damped)
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nice to meet you too... i'm new as well. stopped at 1999 and now have fun again! since now got work it is much more affordable compare to last time as a kid @___@. no $, no parts.
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Setting on 08 Feb 09 @ Tampines:

Winning Bracket: 21.69s~22.42s (6 placings, all SFM)
My time: 22.76s

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Gear: 3.5:1
Roller Stats: Width 95mm; Length: 130mm; Angle: 10 degrees (might have slight error, since I used a 10 degree spacer but did not take into account of chassis angle)

Setting on 15 Feb 09 @ Khatib:

Winning Time: 25++s (too tired did not remember)
My time: none laugh.gif

Setting used to clear mini-hump:
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Thanks David and black.rose for the answers, appreciate it smile.gif

QUOTE
Ans 4: Tilt cornering is dependent on the centrifugal force as well as relative positioning of your CG and rollers. The moment your car exits the corner there will be no tilt and the car will naturally rest on 4 wheels. With the length of the jump, your car should jump straight no problems.


My car still tilts after exiting the corner and into the jump..because it will "fly" with either the left side or right side down, depending on a right turn or left turn..
If I were to place the back rollers higher, will the tilt be reduced? Or how should I position the back rollers?
(P.S. - I have tried putting the ball caps of stabilizing pole on but it still tilts.. mad.gif )

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QUOTE(Kay86 @ Feb 17 2009, 04:04 AM)
Thanks David and black.rose for the answers, appreciate it smile.gif
My car still tilts after exiting the corner and into the jump..because it will "fly" with either the left side or right side down, depending on a right turn or left turn..
If I were to place the back rollers higher, will the tilt be reduced? Or how should I position the back rollers?
(P.S. - I have tried putting the ball caps of stabilizing pole on but it still tilts..  mad.gif )
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QUOTE(Kay86 @ Feb 17 2009, 03:04 AM)
Thanks David and black.rose for the answers, appreciate it smile.gif
My car still tilts after exiting the corner and into the jump..because it will "fly" with either the left side or right side down, depending on a right turn or left turn..
If I were to place the back rollers higher, will the tilt be reduced? Or how should I position the back rollers?
(P.S. - I have tried putting the ball caps of stabilizing pole on but it still tilts..  mad.gif )
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What is the diameter difference for your rollers? Prolly a pic would be good too. Usually you would want your car to tilt only very very slightly. (2mm difference for top/btm roller diameter.)

I presume you are single front double back roller setting. If this is the case yes shifting the top-back rollers up will reduce the tilt. But it would be better to lower the btm-back rollers since too high a roller position (esp for tilt cornering) is a tat too risky. Setting your rollers low gives a bit of inert downforce and speed as well.

I suppose your tilt when jump is right turn---> right tilt down, left turn---> left tilt down?

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@TMY Kia: You see the track pics the mini-hump I kanna killed there  blink.gif
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Waa...a rclxub.gif
How they do the mini jump in the track... will the mini out position...???

Wat's the fastest time?
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Waa...a rclxub.gif
How they do the mini jump in the track... will the mini out position...???

Wat's the fastest time?
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what u worry about the mini jump if a jump like that cant pass no need to play car la so easy
if the jump like the pro tour final last year thta is hard
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Lesson 1:
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May I knw wat is the main purpose of this kind of wheel, isit call 1 way-wheel?
Hope any1 pro can explain to me... Thanks...

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 17 2009, 01:10 PM)
what u worry about the mini jump if a jump like that cant pass no need to play car la so easy
if the jump like the pro tour final last year thta is hard
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That was what I thot also since my car can pass thru a single lane jump. But when I tried my car just keep somersaulting, the rear end keep jump up also.
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 17 2009, 01:58 PM)
Lesson 1:
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May I knw wat is the main purpose of this kind of wheel, isit call 1 way-wheel?
Hope any1 pro can explain to me... Thanks...

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this type of wheel is to reduce increase the amount of wheel spin of the outside side of the car when the car is turning. example: when ur car turn right, means that the car's right side should move less than left left wheels should spin more than right wheels so it can turn better. although this is the theory but apparently not everyone agree to the performance of the wheel. some say good some say it doesnt work that way @__@.

btw, the track actually got tons of hump and the 360 thingy... my car fly to nowhere at the "big jump" part (after going up the long hill and come down, it boost the car speed to max).

edited: thanks black rose for pointing out the slight misconception smile.gif

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TADA!!!!!
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TADA!!!!!
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i hope to get those by this weekend

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wow u so fast do shopping already
i hope to get those by this weekend
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just happen to drop by..tt y..haha new box next shipment..
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my boss just informed me that she does not need me to go KL, wth vmad.gif
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>13lack.12ose,
Oh thats too bad.
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>13lack.12ose,
Oh thats too bad.
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my boss just informed me that she does not need me to go KL, wth  vmad.gif
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Hello, David and anyone...
David, this weekend got new upgrading stock ma?

When wan to gather guys? Let play 2gether...

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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 18 2009, 11:38 AM)
Hello, David and anyone...
David, this weekend got new upgrading stock ma?

When wan to gather guys? Let play 2gether...

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by this week or next week we will get stocks when it is here i will let u guys know
there a big group of guys playing on sat and sun just come over
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 18 2009, 11:05 AM)
by this week or next week we will get stocks when it is here i will let u guys know
there a big group of guys playing on sat and sun just come over
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Tat is nice sat n sun so crowded, perhap can learn 1st b4 i really invest on my new mini pro...
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ahhh... hmm where do u guys normal ply ah... for sg de^^... long time bo test car le... wan go down see see still gd ma.. LoL..
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 18 2009, 11:29 AM)
Tat is nice sat n sun so crowded, perhap can learn 1st b4 i really invest on my new mini pro...
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I might come in the afternoon on Sat.
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mokono,
There are two places can play mini 4wd from 6pm - 9.30pm
Blk 846 Yishun St 81 (near Khatib MRT)
Blk 419 Tampines St 41


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6pm-9.30pm? O_o thats pretty late... can i go to blk 846 during daytime and test my car?
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>B-Mecha,
Not sure lei.. gotta check with the shop owner, but I daytime play car gonna be very hot. wanna get sunburned? haha
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David, TU close wat time normaly, i might come later for some stuffs...
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 18 2009, 07:26 PM)
David, TU close wat time normaly, i might come later for some stuffs...
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 18 2009, 06:28 PM)
same as shopping centre
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ahh..thanks ^^... juz went tampines ther jor... nt bad larhs ^^ hahahas.. also manage to change some of my rusty parts... arent bad ^^
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can anyone help me with a slight problem pls?? when my car corner, it stop moving. Only can hear the engine's sound but it wont move. What sud I do?
Btw, what's the damper u guys are talking about in the previous post? Sry I noob...
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QUOTE(GL91 @ Feb 18 2009, 09:42 PM)
can anyone help me with a slight problem pls?? when my car corner, it stop moving. Only can hear the engine's sound but it wont move. What sud I do?
Btw, what's the damper u guys are talking about in the previous post? Sry I noob...
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most likely is your gear. try to check if you gear loose.
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hi David, these stocks got ma?
1)Item #15356
So tat we can use back some of the old body cover... tongue.gif
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2)Item #15349
3.5:1 gear ratio- Is this nice?
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 20 2009, 08:10 AM)
hi David, these stocks got ma?
1)Item #15356
So tat we can use back some of the old body cover...  tongue.gif
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2)Item #15349
3.5:1 gear ratio- Is this nice?
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i believe 3.5:1 gear is a must have. else u wont have other gear to tune your car. 4:1 is good for "power" but 3.5:1 is a must to achive higher speed.
i'm looking for it too...
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 20 2009, 09:10 AM)
hi David, these stocks got ma?
1)Item #15356
So tat we can use back some of the old body cover...  tongue.gif
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2)Item #15349
3.5:1 gear ratio- Is this nice?
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15356 is hanging there all the time u did not see it yesterday just right beside the rear bumper u asked me about
as for the gear we will get it by next week

b-mecha u can get it in stargek paya lebar they already have stock for it
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small diameter MS PRO cars comes with 3.5:1 gear also. Btw which parts comes with 40mm screws? Thx ^^


Added on February 20, 2009, 10:52 amUpcoming topic: Explaination (using concept of levers) on tilt cornering and relationship between downthrust and roller height. Stay tuned smile.gif

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 20 2009, 10:50 AM)
small diameter MS PRO cars comes with 3.5:1 gear also. Btw which parts comes with 40mm screws? Thx ^^


Added on February 20, 2009, 10:52 amUpcoming topic: Explaination (using concept of levers) on tilt cornering and relationship between downthrust and roller height. Stay tuned smile.gif
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Wat u mean of concept of lever? Sorry i stil newbie... hmm.gif

Can i knw anyone here can recomment which rollers are better? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 20 2009, 03:48 PM)
Wat u mean of concept of lever? Sorry i stil newbie... hmm.gif

Can i knw anyone here can recomment which rollers are better?  rclxub.gif
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all rollers are good which 1 u want to use and how u use it is the most important
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 20 2009, 02:50 PM)
all rollers are good which 1 u want to use and how u use it is the most important
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If new stock reach pls inform asap....


Added on February 20, 2009, 8:29 pmWhere r u R3ju7Ce, come we race... Haha...

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Relationship between Roller Height and Downthrust

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Red: Direction of the force applied or Line of Centre of Gravity (CG Line)
Blue: Resistance due to roller contact
Green: Lift/Downnthrust due to roller height


Explanation:
1. The car moves forward, with red denoting the line of centre of gravity (CG line) which the forward moving force acts upon the car. However there will be resistance that prevents the car from moving forward freely. In this case, we are considering the friction due to roller contact on the walls, denoted by blue.

2. Due to the relative position of the roller height and the CG line, there will be a passive lift or downforce acting on the car. If the roller is above the line, there will be lift. If the roller is below the line, there will be downthrust.

The significance is that:
1. The further away the roller is placed from the line of centre of gravity, the less stable and slower will be the car.
2. The higher the roller, the greater passive lift experienced.
3. The lower the roller, the greater the passive downforce experienced (i.e you can increase the downforce on the car without having to increase the front angle)

This is why in my previous post I advocated placing the main rollers as near the CG line as possible, best would be slightly above the CG line so that there will not be energy wasted trying to balance the car from the unneccesary lift or downforce, as well as sideway balance, leading to a faster setting. Second, this will allow for the balancing roller to be placed at the bottom as low as possible for quick recovery during jumps and a faster and more stable tilt cornering.

As usual, do discuss and point out if my concept needs amendments. smile.gif

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 20 2009, 10:01 PM)
Relationship between Roller Height and Downthrust

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Red: Direction of the force applied or Line of Centre of Gravity (CG Line)
Blue: Resistance due to roller contact
Green: Lift/Downnthrust due to roller height


Explanation:
1. The car moves forward, with red denoting the line of centre of gravity (CG line) which the forward moving force acts upon the car. However there will be resistance that prevents the car from moving forward freely. In this case, we are considering the friction due to roller contact on the walls, denoted by blue.

2. Due to the relative position of the roller height and the CG line, there will be a passive lift or downforce acting on the car. If the roller is above the line, there will be lift. If the roller is below the line, there will be downthrust.

The significance is that:
1. The further away the roller is placed from the line of centre of gravity, the less stable and slower will be the car.
2. The higher the roller, the greater passive lift experienced.
3. The lower the roller, the greater the passive downforce experienced (i.e you can increase the downforce on the car without having to increase the front angle)

This is why in my previous post I advocated placing the main rollers as near the CG line as possible, best would be slightly above the CG line so that there will not be energy wasted trying to balance the car from the unneccesary lift or downforce, as well as sideway balance, leading to a faster setting. Second, this will allow for the balancing roller to be placed at the bottom as low as possible for quick recovery during jumps and a faster and more stable tilt cornering.

As usual, do discuss and point out if my concept needs amendments.  smile.gif
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Very nice article... 4.5/5 stars. notworthy.gif
Thanks...
Besides, tmrw got any1 going to TU ma? I wish can see others beside me... Come race wif me... icon_rolleyes.gif
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@TamiyaAye: Thank you for the rating smile.gif. The 0.5 that you deducted I suppose is because of my lousy photoshop skills? lol

Anw, rollers with ball bearings are good. The variable would be how high you set the rollers, how wide you set the rollers, how long you set your rollers, how many rollers you intend to use, the angle and the diameter of your rollers. Browse a few pages back you'd be able to find some concepts that were being discussed on these.
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 21 2009, 12:06 AM)
Very nice article... 4.5/5 stars. notworthy.gif
Thanks...
Besides, tmrw got any1 going to TU ma? I wish can see others beside me... Come race wif me...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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u can look for me to get the timer also to see how fast your car or maybe i race u a few round
for box stock current fastest 28.06sec
for modified 24.34sec
to others who are interested to test their timing feel free to look for me
both timing run using energizer alkaline battery only


Added on February 21, 2009, 1:31 am
QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 21 2009, 12:06 AM)
Very nice article... 4.5/5 stars. notworthy.gif
Thanks...
Besides, tmrw got any1 going to TU ma? I wish can see others beside me... Come race wif me...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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u also use the fouor 13mm bearings as weight balance for jumps right


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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 21 2009, 01:29 AM)
u can look for me to get the timer also to see how fast your car or maybe i race u a few round
for box stock current fastest 28.06sec
for modified 24.34sec
to others who are interested to test their timing feel free to look for me
both timing run using energizer alkaline battery only


Added on February 21, 2009, 1:31 am
u also use the fouor 13mm bearings as weight balance for jumps right
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Thanks for allowing me to use the timer, i really appreciate it...
laugh.gif Haha... I think i might not be able to break the record of yet... My rollers stil sux...

Anyway, I am going to challenge to be fast as possible.
Any suggestion?
Feel like my car is so heavy cry.gif ... How to lighten my car weight? Wat is the minimum weight of a car needed in term to be able to run in hyper dash speed to pass the bridge? rclxub.gif

Lastly, any1 going to TU ma today and wat time?

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why so quiet in tu ?? Nobody geh ?
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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 21 2009, 02:34 PM)
why so quiet in tu ?? Nobody geh ?
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Yameh... I am going there at 3 pm... How bout u? For those who no come mean loser rclxms.gif brows.gif whistling.gif



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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 21 2009, 03:39 PM)
Yameh... I am going there at 3 pm... How bout u? For those who no come mean loser rclxms.gif  brows.gif whistling.gif
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i think its rude to say like this some of the guys in this forum is from singapore what do u aspect for them to come over
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 21 2009, 03:04 PM)
i think its rude to say like this some of the guys in this forum is from singapore what do u aspect for them to come over
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Y take it so serious, don be angry guys...so obviosly i am jus joking here... icon_rolleyes.gif
Sorry if i hv offended any1 here...

David, later borrow me timer ok... C u...
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Thanks for allowing me to use the timer, i really appreciate it...
laugh.gif Haha... I think i might not be able to break the record of yet... My rollers stil sux...

Anyway, I am going to challenge to be fast as possible.
Any suggestion?
Feel like my car is so heavy cry.gif ... How to lighten my car weight? Wat is the minimum weight of a car needed in term to be able to run in hyper dash speed to pass the bridge? rclxub.gif

Lastly, any1 going to TU ma today and wat time?
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I think roller setting and brakes are more important factors in crossing the bridge than weight.
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in crying mode.... let me post my car's pic...

today i bought the ms pro evo 1 set.... after few round of testing... this is what it happen when the car fly out of the track.
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the N02 (front parts) is softer than i thought... my advise is... must use frp set to harden it else when the car fly out of track, good luck...

my comment about the evo 1 set: the 620 ball bearings are really nice, it also come with 4 pieces of 3mm (thickness) frp wide plate (2 for 9 & 17mm roller, 2 for 13 and 19mm roller). the body chasis very light but also quite fragile (reinforce? erm... i dont know about that...). i havent try out other parts yet.

edited: typo fixed

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@David: Thx for the pics. The Pink Thunder Shot is really eye catching. The next time there is a trip to KL die die must tag along biggrin.gif

Also the 13mm ball bearing as weights u mentioned is quite common amongst many cars I've seen for the past 2 competitions. Each pair of 13mm weighs 3 grams.

@B-Mecha: No worries mate about the broken front. You can always replace it with reinforced NO2 solded separately. And yes from what I've learnt 620 bearings are the best around. I've yet to get mine T.T
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want to ask, are we allow to put race details in this thread? want to ask just in case it is not allow to promote any upcoming race in this thread.

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 21 2009, 10:42 PM)
in crying mode.... let me post my car's pic...

today i bought the ms pro evo 1 set.... after few round of testing... this is what it happen when the car fly out of the track.
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the N02 (front parts) is softer than i thought... my advise is... must use frp set to harden it else when the car fly out of track, good luck...

my comment about the evo 1 set: the 620 ball bearings are really nice, it also come with 4 pieces of 3mm (thickness) frp wide plate (2 for 9 & 17mm roller, 2 for 13 and 19mm roller). the body chasis very light but also quite fragile (reinforce? erm... i dont know about that...). i havent try out other parts yet.

edited: typo fixed
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No worry dude, I exactly same as ur fate. My 1st round n 1st tried on ms pro(new bought Savanna Leo when going Pokkai) and i notice tat i put it wrong way, it fly n crush on wall sweetly... My heart break because too sudden n it is stil virgin for me... shocking.gif
However, I directly bent it back n glue... So far it work nice... blush.gif



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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 22 2009, 12:31 AM)
No worry dude, I exactly same as ur fate. My 1st round n 1st tried on ms pro(new bought Savanna Leo when going Pokkai) and i notice tat i put it wrong way, it fly n crush on wall sweetly... My heart break because too sudden n it is stil virgin for me...  shocking.gif
However, I directly bent it back n glue... So far it work nice...  blush.gif
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cry.gif dude... the one that i broke cos me SG$90 cry.gif
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anyway...i'll replace me with the normal n02 unit. need to test how good is the original setting of the evo 1 set tomorrow or next week.

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 22 2009, 12:58 AM)
want to ask, are we allow to put race details in this thread? want to ask just in case it is not allow to promote any upcoming race in this thread.
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u can post races here no worries
if better after the race post photos of the race and a bit of race report will be evan better for further discussion on track and car setting


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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 21 2009, 11:42 PM)
in crying mode.... let me post my car's pic...

today i bought the ms pro evo 1 set.... after few round of testing... this is what it happen when the car fly out of the track.
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the N02 (front parts) is softer than i thought... my advise is... must use frp set to harden it else when the car fly out of track, good luck...

my comment about the evo 1 set: the 620 ball bearings are really nice, it also come with 4 pieces of 3mm (thickness) frp wide plate (2 for 9 & 17mm roller, 2 for 13 and 19mm roller). the body chasis very light but also quite fragile (reinforce? erm... i dont know about that...). i havent try out other parts yet.

edited: typo fixed
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well i share the same fate as u did less then five min the front part break (i follow the manual and build exactly like the box pic)
but that was few months back my second car still on good condition waiting for the pro tour 2009
i think u should keep the car and parts nicely as it is more suitable to be used in the pro tour as alll are pro cars which will be a more leval playing field

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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 22 2009, 12:31 AM)
No worry dude, I exactly same as ur fate. My 1st round n 1st tried on ms pro(new bought Savanna Leo when going Pokkai) and i notice tat i put it wrong way, it fly n crush on wall sweetly... My heart break because too sudden n it is stil virgin for me...  shocking.gif
However, I directly bent it back n glue... So far it work nice...  blush.gif
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lol nice drawing there tongue.gif
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last night i got the update from the gathering zone's boss (the one near khatib MRT) about the upcoming race. the rules and prizes are similar to the previous race on 15 Feb 2009.

upcoming mini 4wd race @ gathering zone (near singapore khatib MRT)

date: 15 March 2009
time: 1pm-5.30pm
venue: Gathering Trading @ Khatib Blk 846 #01-3653

price per tiket: 1 for SG$0.80, 3 for SG$2

prizes (cash!):
1st - SG$88 voucher
2nd - SG$68 voucher
3rd - SG$48 voucher
4th - SG$28 voucher
5th - one box of tamiya mini 4wd car (ms-pro chasis)
6th - one pro motor (should be hyper dash pro)

*updated the prizes

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 22 2009, 11:41 AM)
last night i got the update from the gathering zone's boss (the one near khatib MRT) about the upcoming race. the rules and prizes are similar to the previous race on 15 Feb 2009.

upcoming mini 4wd race @ gathering zone (near singapore khatib MRT)

date: 15 March 2009
time: 1pm-5.30pm
venue: Gathering Trading @ Khatib Blk 846 #01-3653

price per tiket: 1 for SG$0.80, 3 for SG$2

prizes (cash!):
1st - SG$88 ang pao
2nd - SG$68 ang pao
3rd - SG$48 ang pao
4th - one box of tamiya mini 4wd car (ms-pro chasis)

good chance to earn $$? biggrin.gif if can win more or less can reduce the expenses since now economy not good
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thanx for the update i will be coming down for this race anyone interested to join let me know
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■ITEM 15249
Super X Large Diameter Wheel Lock-Nut Set

does david have this in stock??

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QUOTE(GL91 @ Feb 22 2009, 05:21 PM)
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■ITEM 15249
Super X Large Diameter Wheel Lock-Nut Set

does david have this in stock??
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i dont have this in stock
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QUOTE(GL91 @ Feb 22 2009, 04:21 PM)
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■ITEM 15249
Super X Large Diameter Wheel Lock-Nut Set

does david have this in stock??
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Not nice one la, my fren told me bout tat... nod.gif

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New MS PRO in progress .... brows.gif
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Wat u mean new ms pro in progress? Ur car ? Or new ms chassis is coming? drool.gif
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New MS PRO in progress .... brows.gif
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david, then do u have any other lock nut wheel in stock?
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 22 2009, 11:59 PM)
old ....ahem.... ms pro coming out from the box  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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yup yup ... shinny orange ms pro will reveal soon ... brows.gifbrows.gifbrows.gif
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just ressurected my car and add some parts together last night, will post the finish look later biggrin.gif.
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david, then do u have any other lock nut wheel in stock?
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by the way where u from see i can let u know where to get it
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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 22 2009, 12:31 AM)
No worry dude, I exactly same as ur fate. My 1st round n 1st tried on ms pro(new bought Savanna Leo when going Pokkai) and i notice tat i put it wrong way, it fly n crush on wall sweetly... My heart break because too sudden n it is stil virgin for me...  shocking.gif
However, I directly bent it back n glue... So far it work nice...  blush.gif
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Get another replacement N-02... the chassis not firm and stable. Add a piece FRP bumper, it can last a bit longer...


QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 23 2009, 09:39 AM)
yup yup ... shinny orange ms pro will reveal soon ... brows.gifbrows.gifbrows.gif
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Weeww.... rclxms.gif Awaiting ur new orange re-juice car... thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 23 2009, 09:39 AM)
yup yup ... shinny orange ms pro will reveal soon ... brows.gifbrows.gifbrows.gif
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I saw tat website describe separate bought mid chassis(silver or orange) is 10% more weightlight than stock chassis? Is it only 10% lighten? Jus feel like very light 1... Any answer from pros???


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QUOTE(TamiyaAye @ Feb 23 2009, 01:42 PM)
I saw tat website describe separate bought mid chassis(silver or orange) is 10% more weightlight than stock chassis? Is it only 10% lighten? Jus feel like very light 1... Any answer from pros???
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not much weight difference 1g+-
but the metrial is different as it allows more flex from the normal chasis where it acts to absorb the vibrations from the motor gears and wheel better for more grip on the track
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 23 2009, 12:58 PM)
not much weight difference 1g+-
but the metrial is different as it allows more flex from the normal chasis where it acts to absorb the vibrations from the motor gears and wheel better for more grip on the track
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Wa... can absorb vibrations one... It really help alot for grip? How many %?
Any suggestion for orange or silver chassis? Jus feel like orange more realiable than silver one...

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New item coming out soon!!

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[quote=mini4wd,Feb 23 2009, 02:31 PM]
New item coming out soon!!

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remind me of fighter magnum vfx hahahaha
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I'm from Cheras area. Near Pandan Lake Club..heard of it?
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QUOTE(GL91 @ Feb 23 2009, 09:42 PM)
I'm from Cheras area. Near Pandan Lake Club..heard of it?
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yeah i know the place but i think the wheel hard to find la
long time no go cheras liao last time use to play snooker in indah snooker in pandan indah

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QUOTE(mini4wd @ Feb 13 2009, 09:07 AM)
>sonic_cd
thats a pretty long but informative explanation there .  only 1 problem thoug the last statement ,the 1st 4 cars are errrr... hard to find ..

>>If money is not the issue, please talk to me I am letting go some of my collections. ;p
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i thinki got some unopened cars of that though , not sure bout it . tongue.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 10:36 PM

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the car that i just fixed after the broken N02 Unit... any sifu can give some comment about the setting? the overall setting is base on the one in MS pro evo 1 with minor change. added the metal extension plate at the back to shorten the front and rear distance. also replaced the original roller with 6x 920 ball bearing rollers without any angle adjustment (the front seems to have some angle but just a bit, rear is 0 degree). placement is shown in the attachment. engine will be torque-tune pro or hyper dash pro depending on the track. kinda worry about the small hill part... should i add brake or this 2 little yellow ball at the back should work fine? i dont know anything about the wheel & engine & car weight combination so i hope sifus can teach me a bit.

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post Feb 23 2009, 10:45 PM

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still got people play ah ? mine all sudah trashed already.
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post Feb 23 2009, 10:52 PM

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Anyone think tat is worth to have a ms pro evo 1? I like it's front n rear frp. Its good if can buy separately... drool.gif

When evo 2 is coming? Haha... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 11:30 PM

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post Feb 23 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(doty @ Feb 23 2009, 11:30 PM)
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cool O_O metalic version... even the chasis is metalic and it comes with transparent tires!!

but will the metalic paint easily tear off after a few runs hmm.gif

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post Feb 23 2009, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 23 2009, 11:34 PM)
cool O_O metalic version... even the chasis is metalic and it comes with transparent tires!!

but will the metalic paint easily tear off after a few runs  hmm.gif
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yeah...for display only..
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post Feb 24 2009, 12:22 AM

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QUOTE(doty @ Feb 24 2009, 12:36 AM)
yeah...for display only..
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this car got history tell the guys how u get it and how prcious it is
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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 23 2009, 11:36 PM)
the car that i just fixed after the broken N02 Unit... any sifu can give some comment about the setting? the overall setting is base on the one in MS pro evo 1 with minor change. added the metal extension plate at the back to shorten the front and rear distance. also replaced the original roller with 6x 920 ball bearing rollers without any angle adjustment (the front seems to have some angle but just a bit, rear is 0 degree). placement is shown in the attachment. engine will be torque-tune pro or hyper dash pro depending on the track. kinda worry about the small hill part... should i add brake or this 2 little yellow ball at the back should work fine? i dont know anything about the wheel & engine & car weight combination so i hope sifus can teach me a bit.

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edited: typo fixed
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nice and stable setup but u need to lower your rear rollers for better stablity and this setup is for speed tracks as races held now your car setting is not suitable but just keep it for pro tour 2009 your car will get the chance to unleash its full potential in this races

sample for rear roller placement
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post Feb 24 2009, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 24 2009, 12:22 AM)
this car got history tell the guys how u get it and how prcious it is
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lol its a total shame due to a careless mistake
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QUOTE(doty @ Feb 24 2009, 02:11 AM)
lol its a total shame due to a careless mistake
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but to me u have improved from the previous time brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
i will be coming 15 march so i will see u again
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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 24 2009, 01:18 AM)
but to me u have improved from the previous time  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
i will be coming 15 march so i will see u again
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yeah...cya!

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