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Hobbies Tamiya Mini 4wd V4, lets and go!

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TamiyaAye
post Feb 16 2009, 10:01 AM

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Hi, new member reporting in.
1st question, which chasis is the best?

2nd question, do Tamiya Underground import new accessories?

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TamiyaAye
post Feb 16 2009, 08:35 PM

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Helo guys...
Hi David, if i was not mistaken, u r the blue shirt guy tat handle cashier part isit? If i m wrong, sorry...
(So cool one, abit scary sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif JKJK nod.gif )

If u don really remember me, jus now i hv gone to TU and i bought Savanna Leo one.

Anyway, i stil consider as a newbie though i been plying Tamiya 4wd 10 years ago n stop. I saw my old car also sien, 60% not Tamiya.
Hope anyone here can teach me something about how to modify my new car(But now so poor)... Thanks.
Hope I being welcome... blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif

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TamiyaAye
post Feb 16 2009, 09:45 PM

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Oh is u... Nice to meet u...

Ha, sure i wil come to practice, I might come in week end if free.
But my car stil so poor now, and i think i sud use back my non-tamiya rollers or some part 1st and then upgrade 1 by 1 until perfect.
Hope i am being welcome although not 100% tamiya accessories yet.

Who's going to play tis week end? Let go together wan...? brows.gif
TamiyaAye
post Feb 16 2009, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 16 2009, 09:53 PM)
it is ok la cos my main concern is the track as some guys dont care about the track some use screw as brake so many scar at the track as u guys know la broken track cant play anymore
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Lol, got those kind of ppl one... Use screw as brake "so cool"... rclxub.gif
Actually 4wd now stil using brake system one meh? I mean in correct way...

Actually most of my accessories was bought from the supermarket last time, the production company's logo is a circle wif 9(forgot wat name oredy). Now look at it also wan vomit... ugly...
TamiyaAye
post Feb 17 2009, 01:58 PM

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Lesson 1:
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May I knw wat is the main purpose of this kind of wheel, isit call 1 way-wheel?
Hope any1 pro can explain to me... Thanks...

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TamiyaAye
post Feb 18 2009, 10:38 AM

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Hello, David and anyone...
David, this weekend got new upgrading stock ma?

When wan to gather guys? Let play 2gether...

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TamiyaAye
post Feb 18 2009, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 18 2009, 11:05 AM)
by this week or next week we will get stocks when it is here i will let u guys know
there a big group of guys playing on sat and sun just come over
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Tat is nice sat n sun so crowded, perhap can learn 1st b4 i really invest on my new mini pro...
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TamiyaAye
post Feb 18 2009, 06:26 PM

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David, TU close wat time normaly, i might come later for some stuffs...
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post Feb 18 2009, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 18 2009, 06:28 PM)
same as shopping centre
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Hope i can get some discount ba... blush.gif
TamiyaAye
post Feb 20 2009, 08:10 AM

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hi David, these stocks got ma?
1)Item #15356
So tat we can use back some of the old body cover... tongue.gif
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2)Item #15349
3.5:1 gear ratio- Is this nice?
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post Feb 20 2009, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 20 2009, 10:50 AM)
small diameter MS PRO cars comes with 3.5:1 gear also. Btw which parts comes with 40mm screws? Thx ^^


Added on February 20, 2009, 10:52 amUpcoming topic: Explaination (using concept of levers) on tilt cornering and relationship between downthrust and roller height. Stay tuned smile.gif
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Wat u mean of concept of lever? Sorry i stil newbie... hmm.gif

Can i knw anyone here can recomment which rollers are better? rclxub.gif
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post Feb 20 2009, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 20 2009, 02:50 PM)
all rollers are good which 1 u want to use and how u use it is the most important
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O icic...
If new stock reach pls inform asap....


Added on February 20, 2009, 8:29 pmWhere r u R3ju7Ce, come we race... Haha...

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post Feb 20 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(13lack.12ose @ Feb 20 2009, 10:01 PM)
Relationship between Roller Height and Downthrust

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Red: Direction of the force applied or Line of Centre of Gravity (CG Line)
Blue: Resistance due to roller contact
Green: Lift/Downnthrust due to roller height


Explanation:
1. The car moves forward, with red denoting the line of centre of gravity (CG line) which the forward moving force acts upon the car. However there will be resistance that prevents the car from moving forward freely. In this case, we are considering the friction due to roller contact on the walls, denoted by blue.

2. Due to the relative position of the roller height and the CG line, there will be a passive lift or downforce acting on the car. If the roller is above the line, there will be lift. If the roller is below the line, there will be downthrust.

The significance is that:
1. The further away the roller is placed from the line of centre of gravity, the less stable and slower will be the car.
2. The higher the roller, the greater passive lift experienced.
3. The lower the roller, the greater the passive downforce experienced (i.e you can increase the downforce on the car without having to increase the front angle)

This is why in my previous post I advocated placing the main rollers as near the CG line as possible, best would be slightly above the CG line so that there will not be energy wasted trying to balance the car from the unneccesary lift or downforce, as well as sideway balance, leading to a faster setting. Second, this will allow for the balancing roller to be placed at the bottom as low as possible for quick recovery during jumps and a faster and more stable tilt cornering.

As usual, do discuss and point out if my concept needs amendments.  smile.gif
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Very nice article... 4.5/5 stars. notworthy.gif
Thanks...
Besides, tmrw got any1 going to TU ma? I wish can see others beside me... Come race wif me... icon_rolleyes.gif
TamiyaAye
post Feb 21 2009, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 21 2009, 01:29 AM)
u can look for me to get the timer also to see how fast your car or maybe i race u a few round
for box stock current fastest 28.06sec
for modified 24.34sec
to others who are interested to test their timing feel free to look for me
both timing run using energizer alkaline battery only


Added on February 21, 2009, 1:31 am
u also use the fouor 13mm bearings as weight balance for jumps right
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Thanks for allowing me to use the timer, i really appreciate it...
laugh.gif Haha... I think i might not be able to break the record of yet... My rollers stil sux...

Anyway, I am going to challenge to be fast as possible.
Any suggestion?
Feel like my car is so heavy cry.gif ... How to lighten my car weight? Wat is the minimum weight of a car needed in term to be able to run in hyper dash speed to pass the bridge? rclxub.gif

Lastly, any1 going to TU ma today and wat time?

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post Feb 21 2009, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 21 2009, 02:34 PM)
why so quiet in tu ?? Nobody geh ?
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Yameh... I am going there at 3 pm... How bout u? For those who no come mean loser rclxms.gif brows.gif whistling.gif



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post Feb 21 2009, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(david tamiya @ Feb 21 2009, 03:04 PM)
i think its rude to say like this some of the guys in this forum is from singapore what do u aspect for them to come over
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Y take it so serious, don be angry guys...so obviosly i am jus joking here... icon_rolleyes.gif
Sorry if i hv offended any1 here...

David, later borrow me timer ok... C u...
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post Feb 22 2009, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Feb 21 2009, 10:42 PM)
in crying mode.... let me post my car's pic...

today i bought the ms pro evo 1 set.... after few round of testing... this is what it happen when the car fly out of the track.
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the N02 (front parts) is softer than i thought... my advise is... must use frp set to harden it else when the car fly out of track, good luck...

my comment about the evo 1 set: the 620 ball bearings are really nice, it also come with 4 pieces of 3mm (thickness) frp wide plate (2 for 9 & 17mm roller, 2 for 13 and 19mm roller). the body chasis very light but also quite fragile (reinforce? erm... i dont know about that...). i havent try out other parts yet.

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No worry dude, I exactly same as ur fate. My 1st round n 1st tried on ms pro(new bought Savanna Leo when going Pokkai) and i notice tat i put it wrong way, it fly n crush on wall sweetly... My heart break because too sudden n it is stil virgin for me... shocking.gif
However, I directly bent it back n glue... So far it work nice... blush.gif



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post Feb 22 2009, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(GL91 @ Feb 22 2009, 04:21 PM)
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■ITEM 15249
Super X Large Diameter Wheel Lock-Nut Set

does david have this in stock??
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Not nice one la, my fren told me bout tat... nod.gif

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post Feb 22 2009, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 22 2009, 10:01 PM)
New MS PRO in progress .... brows.gif
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Wat u mean new ms pro in progress? Ur car ? Or new ms chassis is coming? drool.gif
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post Feb 23 2009, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(R3Ju7Ce @ Feb 23 2009, 09:39 AM)
yup yup ... shinny orange ms pro will reveal soon ... brows.gifbrows.gifbrows.gif
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I saw tat website describe separate bought mid chassis(silver or orange) is 10% more weightlight than stock chassis? Is it only 10% lighten? Jus feel like very light 1... Any answer from pros???



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