What if a family want their child to be a lawyer in the family but one have no absolute interest in law to begin with? Just for the sake of the future and so on. Nothing is impossible but then, w/o interest to start with... Eventhough one is capable. Is it a right thing to go, for the child i mean? Is it possible, just to please the family?

I want your humble opinions on this situation. I think this is the right place to ask. Please, what do you say?

this kind of situation has always been happening.still the same answer,interest should come before other considerations when you are choosing the path of your future.erm.. the child really does not like to be a lawyer at all?

This post has been edited by minshuen: Oct 23 2010, 08:53 AM

A cautionary note is, laws change. If Malaysia were to implement the Common Bar Course, the LPA will be amended and despite being a solicitor in England, they may require you to sit for the Common Bar Exams before gaining admission into the Malaysian bar.

But at present, you do not have to if you are already a solicitor.

erm...any idea of when will the common bar course be implemented?it sounds better compared to CLP...

No. You'll have notice of it when the Amending Act is tabled in Parliament.

To effectively implement it, an the LPA will have to be amended. Else, there will be a loop hole whereby those who qualify under section 3(a) and (b) which defines a qualified person will be exempted from the CBC.

yes schizophrenic, so i've heard (=

it seems that they want to amend the law to the effect even Qualified BARRISTERS practicing in the UK who comes back to Malaysia will be required to sit for that examinations am i right?


my humble opinion is..

firstly..
do not loose heart that it's not what you want to do..
take the LLb as a stepping stone..

the LLb opens up a bigger path to many many other things..
parents want's what's best for us agreed?

take it seriously (the course) after that, decide on what you want to do..
explain to them with facts and details
don't just go to them and say "I want to be a cook"
explain why

hopefully they understand why.

the LLb course is a good subject in the sense that it helps you think critically
its one of the subjects where you are not required to be a robot..
there is no yes/ no answer..
It's all gray area
its how you persuade and argue your case..

you can take it positively and think what you can get out of the course
who knows you might even end up liking it (=

I think that a better phrase would be barristers with leave to exercise their right of audience.

In England, barristers are all qualified with right of audience. However, not all of them are able to given leave to exercise that right.

And yes, that appears to be the position.

The child have no absolute interest in law and also does not have the intention to be a lawyer if one were to complete their LLB and CLP.

The child is me

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Added on October 24, 2010, 3:15 amLaw is indeed interesting, i have to admit. But i do not like it. My mother too said the same thing what you've said, "Eventually you will like it." Yes, it is true that having a LLB as my degree definitely secure my future. However, i do not enjoy studying it. My college life too seems dull. Everyday attending to class, my heart seems heavy. My coursemates come to me and asked why so quiet most of the time.

Is it possible for me to succeed in my studies if i go on like this? Most of my coursemates are very determine to be a lawyer. Lecturer even asked me why am i here if i've no interest in it.

This post has been edited by M@Y: Oct 24 2010, 03:15 AM

Well, I've heard that one before..."Eventually you will like it". I can't remember what you want to do again, or what your interests are...but anyway -

Having a law degree is good...as one mentioned, it helps you to think critically, analyse facts and so forth. But we have very nice LLB mills around, churning out hundreds of LLB graduates in KL alone. Only four things will make you stand out amongst other LLB grads:

i) Character/references
ii) LLB grades
iii) Other qualifications
iv) Work Experience

So there are a whole lot of LLB grads around. Having just an LLB is not going to help you a whole lot. Im not saying it's impossible to land a good job after, but your choices will be limited considering the oversupply of LLB grads.

If you are "forced" into doing the CLP and thereafter pupillage...that's when the real work starts. CLP is no easy exam...and pupillage can be tough depending on the firm. It takes almost 5 years to be a lawyer...so you really have to like it. If not, it will be very tough at the CLP stage, let alone pupillage!

I believe in following your passion...if this route aids you in your ultimate goal, then see it positively. If it doesn't, convince your parents. If that doesn't help, then let us know what might. Do your parents want to speak to lecturers to get their input? Practicing lawyers? Senior Lawyers? Let us know...we can provide whatever advice we can, but ultimately you have to decide and make a stand for what you want. If for some reason it's too late, then just do what you have to do. You're tunnel is probably just a little longer than others.

My parents both studied law and in fact my Dad was number 3** on the bar association list and my mum 8** which I believes numbers some 13,000 by now. My mum was I think the first or second batch to graduate from UM law while my Dad was at Middle Temple during the 60s. So I guess you could say they are very senior but they don't practice anymore.

Although initially interested, I ended up doing finance; went into investment banking and then ventured into own business but I still get the 'it's never too late to study law' comment from time to time. The only reason I'd consider studying law was if I wanted to become a politician. Look at how many politicians come from legal backgrounds even amongst our Malaysian Ministers. I can name at least 5.

If I'm not mistaken, Tun Razak also did read law in UK and correct me if I'm wrong but he did it in record time but I guess he was in a class of his own. In fact, Margaret Thatcher initially did Chemistry but after graduating she did law as she saw it as beneficial towards her future career. I guess you don't need to become a lawyer just because you study law. If I were younger perhaps I would have seen things differently and ended up studying law as well.

This post has been edited by [PIMPIN]: Oct 29 2010, 05:49 AM

haha,yaya you get the point.study law doesnt mean you have to be a lawyer just normally thats what most of the law graduates do.look at the matter from another angle,studying law may be a good preparation for the students to strive in other areas such as business sector.thus,law isn't a bad choice unless you want to throw yourself into science stuff in the future

http://juris-et-scientia.blogspot.com/2007...in-history.html

wow~these are the things i really don't know!thanks for sharing!

lol you're my classmate then. Personally like Mr. Kevin's lectures. Miss Naleena.... as long as she talks I don't mind. When she starts asking questions I'm a bit lost . Ya ya I know, have to catch up soon. Gimme until end of deepavali hols to start with the books
hahah, yeah. I once got Mr. Baljit as a substitute lecturer during A-levels... Damn dull his lecture. Was struggling to make a 'serious and listening' face the entire time. And the class was starting to talk 20minutes into his lecture.

By the way, library partially open now. Should be fully open at the end of the deepavali hols.
Ah, heard that they raised the quota for clp. Anyone knows how much?

Mr. Anand passed away so sad. he taught at bac years back. His classes were lively back then

This post has been edited by urahara_shoten: Nov 1 2010, 07:59 PM

Mr. Anand? Is it Mr. Ananth? Or they're both different person?

Hi, schizophrenic. Do you have the softcopy of sarawak advocates ordinance? If yes, do I have the pleasure to get it from you? thank you so much

Obviously studying law does not mean one should practice law. But the practice of law or the usage of law in other fields should be a huge factor when deciding to take LLB, LLM or JD.

I never think that a degree means one has to work with that subject in one's career.

However I did speak to some lawyers, and they made it clear that one should not do an LLB without being serious about practicing law. Books and texts I have read also advocate this.

are you looking for any particular provision?





This post has been edited by schizophrenic: Nov 5 2010, 03:01 AM

I am not sure which particular provision that needed as I am looking for my friend who need it in the case. Besides that, it is hardly to get Sarawak Advocate Ordinance in market even in the google search. Do I have that pleasure to have all the provisions above and please PM me. Thanks a lot.

Not sure the spelling. Old guy, wears those thick glasses and loves to swear in class. His trademark is calling people a bloody flur(fellow I think)