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University Useful information for prospective law students, A basic guide to become a lawyer

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post Jun 10 2008, 11:34 PM

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great job schizo...
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post Jun 30 2008, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(starzzz @ Jun 29 2008, 08:22 PM)
actually i'm intend to taking law bcoz juz thinking for my future career..
i oso dono wat do i like actually~
but not really got interested in business as many ppl do..
i'm choosing among psychology n law.
bcoz among all the courses,these two is the only that i got interested!!!
but...
for psyscho, i'm afraid bout the career after studying..
for law... i'm afraid that i cannot handle it ==
bcoz last time there was 1 of my fren studying LAW..
she was really good in ENglish n watever subjects lar~
her SPM got straight 1A lehh..
n so...
i'm afraid..
really scaree~~
my result so bad,wat if i cant study...==

PS: wat is matriculation ?!
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from the above, i reckon u think u can handle psychology but not law? why is that? level of English?
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post Sep 12 2008, 02:29 AM

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im reconsidering taking EU for part II, coz it looks more technical and well, dull than i had initially expected....anyone here taken it? would appreciate your personal opinions on the subject...thx
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post Sep 24 2008, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(history-maker @ Sep 24 2008, 09:50 AM)
Hi..
I'm planning to do law. im thinking of doing it in new zealand.any comments?
i might want to work in singapore in the future. but malaysia will still be my choice. i checked that doing twinning to uk cant let me work in sinagpore.
as for finances, i can afford to go all 3 years in uk.
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if u can afford to study in the uk for 3 years, might as well do an UOL external LLB or a twinning programme and do the Bar in the UK after u grad i.e. if u intend to do a Uk degree.
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(ymjay @ Sep 24 2008, 05:28 PM)
singapore does not recognize UOL degree since 1996

i think to the extent that even if you are called up to either of the 4 inns
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will have to check that out. can't remember but i think can.

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post Sep 25 2008, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(RBR @ Sep 25 2008, 02:06 PM)
I do not believe in doing an external program unless you are a working professional and are unable to attend full time university classes.  There is no substitute to a proper university education where you are taught by actual experts in the field who have written academic papers and textbooks on the subject.  While you will still gain your LLB if you do the UoL external, you would not have the same experience.  As such, it is no wonder why Singapore decided not to recognise external programs and sub-standard overseas universities.
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true enough, if one benefits from the experience.
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post Oct 4 2008, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 4 2008, 02:28 PM)
I need to buy a good and complete law dictionary. not those mini mini pocket books. i wan a big complete one. planning to go buy at kinokuniya but no idea which one is better. can any law veterans here recommend me a good one?
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complete? im using the "Dictionary of Law" by Curzon. it's ok. i've referred to it twice in the last 2 years.
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post Oct 4 2008, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Oct 4 2008, 10:12 PM)
lol u nvr use it?
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i've seldom used it. As a student i dun really think we need it that badly, coz all the relevant terms that we need to know are defined somewhere or rather in our course text. So there is little need to refer to it. I just got mine coz i like to buy things.
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post Oct 19 2008, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(Sarah0925 @ Oct 18 2008, 08:58 AM)
arh..hard to get in arh...=(
now i hv two choices

a) get out frm schl this yr after spm (taking spm this yr) then do alvls at ATC and take law as one of the subject, then try to get into NUS

b) continue reading Senior Middle 3 in my schl nxt yr (Im studying in private schl)...and with the UEC cert, i try to apply for NUS's law faculty..

which will make it easier for me to get into NUS?
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if you're doing ALE, remember that you may need GP as a paper...
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post Oct 20 2008, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Oct 20 2008, 03:48 PM)
it depends whether Aussie needs that type of expertise or not, but well u can try..no harm in that. U can check the immigration website ler..to check which skill/profession they need. Though the last time i checked lawyers wasn't on the list.
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legal practiotioners are on the SOL, namely barristers and solicitors, so u have to take the necessary qualifications in order to be considered such. Other legal practitioners without practicing certs will have to apply for assessment to see whether they have the required experience, qualifications to be considered as legal secretaries etc. Lawyers are however not on the MODL.
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post Oct 22 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(coldblood @ Oct 22 2008, 05:06 PM)
haha thanks RBR. Nothings more enlightening then a real life advocate giving me advice haha. Hopefully in a few years time i will meet u at melbourne haha. yeah i would like to know the success rate of this career path too( just for extra info).
i  dont know anyone that studies law and practice it at the UK. Its very tough right? What if I am very smart and I am a Cambridge student? will i defeat local law students and get employment?

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oh how interesting. im planning to practice in melbourne as well, and so is my girlfriend who specializes in IP...hmmm!

from what i heard, oxbridge students do get preferences. besides, u will be entitled to the graduate work visa. my friend from cardiff just got a job in cardiff. she's a barrister.

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post Oct 22 2008, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(coldblood @ Oct 22 2008, 05:31 PM)
haha how old r u alsree. ur friend must be a very outstanding figure haha. do u mind asking her wads da process for us malaysians to gain entry into UK's legal society?
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im 22. i'll ask my friend about it, though i reckon schizophrenic might have the answers for that.

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post Nov 15 2008, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Nov 14 2008, 07:38 PM)
Really ? They have a jan intake ? Means i will register to UOL in Jan or i gotta wait till SEPT then only i'' get to register?
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you can register with UOL at any time, though since you are doing so only in January, you will only be eligible to sit for the exams in May/June 2010. Check the website for details. The local colleges may have Jan intakes, though i reckon the pace will be rather slow or they may repeat stuff since for the Jan intake students, the time that they have until the main exams is probably enough to cover the syllabus twice over. i'd rather get a job for 8 mths and then enrol for the sept intake, if possible.
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post Nov 15 2008, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Nov 15 2008, 02:39 PM)
Wow....will only be eligible to sit for the exams in May/June 2010 !
Hais.....Is there any exams in Oct/Nov ?
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for UOL, the exams are only in May and June, and to be eligible to sit for those exams you must register by sept/oct of the previous calendar year. Check the website for specific dates and details. The exams in oct/nov are for referrals etc. So if you were to register at, say BAC, in January 2009, you will only be eligible to sit for the May/June 2010 exams. That's a pretty long time before sitting for the main exam, and imo, you hardly need more than 3 mths to prepare for the inter exams, and even then some will beg to argue that even 3 mths is a lil too long.
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post Nov 21 2008, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(jhong @ Nov 21 2008, 07:07 PM)
FINALLY I AM DONE with A-levels ! Today's paper was not bad . OLA , Negligence , TTL & Private Nuisance came out as what i expected .

My hand is damn pain right now for writing 16 pages in total today .

Result will be release on Jan08 ..... Yo!
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ok good for you. hope your results will be what you want them to be..
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post Nov 28 2008, 02:50 AM

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has anyone here ever received a scholarship award from ATC for performance at LLB level?
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post Dec 1 2008, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(2kia @ Dec 1 2008, 03:41 AM)
king's college scholarship?
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no, they're internal award for performance...cant remember what they call it specifically...
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post Dec 7 2008, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(yanniieee @ Dec 7 2008, 12:55 AM)
lol. yes,whenever we mention bout those popular uni's they will give reaction like 'woww' i agree with you! hahaha. btw, uol is in top 100? o.O
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the uol is an intercollegiate made up of a number of universities and colleges which are collectively known as the university of london. amongst these colleges are:

a) kings
b) queen mary
c) ucl
d) soas
e) lse

there is no University of London in rankings...but the above mentioned universities are in the top 50 which the exception of qm which seems to be spiralling down the rankings...i suggest u google it if u want to know more.

imho, i doubt that ppl will go wow when u mention the uol to them especially if u do the external prog. the first thing i would ask, is which uni specifically, for there is a diff if u did a degree at lse or ucl compared to qm. if u did it externally, i reckon they're perception of it will be slightly lower than that of an internal student despite being tested at similar standards due to two reasons:
a) firstly, majority of the ppl out there or at least those whom i've met still favour internal programmes especially when speaking of such universities due to the overall development they provide within their campuses. we external students in singapore and malaysia rely heavily on self studying or out tutors at the various colleges who i feel quite a few of them are of poor standard. many of the lecturers for the llb external prog merely use lecturing as an income source while they pursue their clp or try to tackle chambering cocurrently. many are also fresh grads and there is a lack of practical knowledge though the necessity for this depends on whether one intends to become a member of the bar eventually.

b) secondly, the relative ease to get into such programmes. i can get into uol ext llb with 2 principal passes at ale, whereas there is no way i can get into any of the above mentioned unis (offering law) with three credits at ale/stpm/whatever.

im not saying uol external is bad (in this case llb) since im doing the same programme, but the wow factor...im not too sure about that. maybe im just being singaporean about the matter...or i've been influenced too much by the feedback i've received from my mates in australia and singapore...


and if u're gonna start a local uni llb prog now, im not sure whether you will still be exempted from clp when u grad (doubt it). i've not been following the development of the cbe due to my lack of personal interest, but i would recommend checking on it if it applies to u.

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post Dec 7 2008, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Dec 7 2008, 05:15 PM)
UOL is no.8 sweat.gif
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!?!!??!....where'd u get that from?
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post Dec 7 2008, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Xziled @ Dec 7 2008, 10:20 PM)

Hmm, my lecturer was just commenting abt C.Hare with his qualifications then he said he search the top universities list and told us in class. Hmm, but then again i checked the list provided in the forum and also double-checked it, I dun c UOL anywhere unless it's the Queen Mary, UOL, London? o_O
is that so?
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as i said, UOL comprises of a number of unis/cols, i have no idea where he got the number 8 from. i checked Sjtu and thes and none of the unis are at no 8. hmmm...

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