Diploma in Law? Well, to be exact, the course i am taking is not Diploma in law but UK transfer degree.
Tentatively, it needs maybe about 32000 for two academic years locally.

I'm very curious about the usefulness of having a QLD(qualified law degree) here. I knew tt for one who want to practice in uk we hv to pass EU law inorder to obatain a QLD but my Q. is if i'm preparing to practice in Malaysia is there any different/advantage in the commercial world for one to hv a QLD?any advice?tq

can anyone tell me the status of bachelor of law & commerce in management & science university shah alam.
the students there are not qualified for clp even tough we have taken all the law subject

do you have to be very good at debating or speech to become a lawyer?
well, i want to be a lawyer but i m lack of those experiences

Obviously, you need to be able to speak well to be a good lawyer. Anyway, those are skills that you can nurture and develop whilst reading law. 4 years is a long time.


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On another note, for those of you interested in pursuing the UOL LLM or just interested to know more, a University of London Masters in Laws (LLM) preview by Dr. James Busuttil, Director of Postgraduate Laws Programme will be held at the ATC KL campus, on 23/9/2010 at 6.30.pm. PM me for more information.

Sorry to ask some personal questions here regarding UOL LLB Part1.

I am a part-time student but I eventually choose to take Scheme A after passing my Inter at the 1st attempt.

So, I am required to take 1 optional paper in stead. Many ppl suggested me to take evidence but for me I heard a lot of failure as well.

My questions r..
a) Whether I should take evidence this year (I was actually planned to take evidence in part2); consider also my other optional paper will be EU, Succession, Conflict
b) Part1 is the deciding year, I know it is very heavy and therefore I hope to hear some "strategies" advise from the experienced forumers.

Yea. I am not interested in CLP at this point of moment, so whether or not to take evidence should have no difference/advantage for me in CLP. I just wish to get a law degree to supplement with my BAcc.

Thank you.

Firstly, what do you mean by "consider also my other optional paper will be EU, Succession, Conflict"? Are these the options available to you?

Secondly, if you're not bothered about the CLP, then there are only three reasons why you would want to pursue a particular option:
i) interest
ii) relevancy to what you do
iii) ease

I am unsure about Evidence, but relatively, amongst the four subjects you mentioned which I bolded, succession would probably be the easiest to score followed by probably conflicts. EU is a toughie to score imo.

In terms of relevancy, well, commercial and company law should be something you shud consider to especially the latter.

alsree786, I appreciated your advice. Yes, those subjects that u bolded are my choice for optional paper, whether to take it now or in Part2.

Yes, interest should come first b4 relevancy. I know both commercial and company law are pretty much relevant with BAcc. Probably I will drop Evidence for Company law, since CLP is not my concern. Thx for the advice again.

If i recall correctly, the LPBQ only recognises law degrees that are of pure law subjects only. And i found this of the MSU site.
Career as Advocate & Solicitor

" The programme does not make graduates eligible to enter the legal profession as Advocate and Solicitor (i.e. practising lawyer). To be so eligible, graduates would have to sit for Certificate in Legal Practice (CLP) examination, conducted under the aegis of Legal Profession Qualifying Board of Malaysia, upon payment of a certain amount of registration and examination fees. Graduates may sit for the examination at any time after graduating, either by following a full time study or self-tuition.

At the present the BLC has not yet been recognized as a qualification that would make its graduates eligible to sit for CLP examination. However, the Faculty is in the process of making all the necessary preparations to gain the recognition and the prognosis looks positive and encouraging. "


Well, guess nothing to do now but sit and hope for the best. Cheers.

Not exactly, as long as you can speak is fine. If you plan to do litigation, then yes. If you want to be in corporate/commercial field, as long as you can convey your points and issues to your client and the other side. It should be fine. Most important part is your interest.

I think communication skills are important to be a good lawyer- both written and verbal. But then again, in real life, not all lawyers are great communicators. Like the guy who acted for MACC to cross examine Dr Pornthip?

By, the way, should be title of the thread be 'guide to become a lawyer' or 'guide to becoming a lawyer'?

Yes, communication skills are important but I find the passion and interest in practice makes a better lawyer. In practice, you will go somewhere if you are smart to tackle all issues involved and tight up loose ends.

Hi,

May I know anyone here apply for next year BTPC privately?
Can I have some information on this as I can't find the related link for the application of BPTC?

Thank you

Visit the Bar Standards Board's website. Look up on vocational training.

The Application for BPTC commencing 2011 will be open for applications end of the year. Normally, the end of the 1st week of Nov.

:-)

Anyone on the UK transfer programme at INTI? I hear it is one of the better transfer programmes. I was thinking of Reading but I have good A levels and would rather transfer to a more competitive university.

hello..

I'm currently at my final year at Cardiff Uni
(it's recognised by the Malaysian BAR Should I choose to do my BPTC here)

however the problem with me is...

I do not want to go through the BPTC.. I'm more keen on being a solicitor
But as always we need a backup plan..

I need a backup plan that If I were to be a solicitor here..
I can be able to return to M'sia to be a qualified lawyer called to M'sian Bar

I know I'm picky..
but being a Lawyer back in malaysia is my back up plan...
(if possible i want to stay on and be a solicitor here but.. you guys know right.. times are hard)

"5.3 Pathway to become a Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature England

The overview is basically the same as a Barrister-at-law in England with the exception of the vocational stage as well as the Inns.
A prospective solicitor will have to apply for the Legal Practice Course(hereinafter referred to as the LPC) during their final year for the Law Degree. Even after a prospective solicitor completed the LPC, he/she will not be entered on the roll until and unless a 2 years training contract as well as specified Continuing Professional Training is completed within a prescribed period.

Please refer to http://www.lawcabs.ac.uk/cabOnline/lpc.htm for more information regarding the application

*Every qualified person must have obtained at least a credit in BM and obtain an exemption certificate from the Qualifying Board prior to being called to the Bar in Malaysia, else the qualified person will have to sit for the Bahasa Malaysia Qualifying Examination."

Can anybody explain to me about this provision?
How do I become a Solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature England
the website provided is down btw.
I've tried googling with no success or maybe I didn't look hard enough
but its always nice to have a fellow malaysian to explain to me (=

awaiting replies..
Cheers!

To be a qualified solicitor of the Supreme Court of Judicature in England, you need to satisfy 3 stages.

You need to complete your academic stage being an LLB, you need to complete your vocational stage being your LPC, and you need to complete your training stage being a trainee solicitor for 2 years upon completion of your vocational stage.

Once you've completed all these 3 stages in order, you'll be entered on the roll of solicitors.

You will then have 2 options. Practice in England as a solicitor or come back to Malaysia as a qualified person under Section 3© of the Legal Profession Act 1976 to proceed with pupillage before being admitted as an advocate and solicitor of the high court of malaya (or sabah and sarawak if applicable).

The risk is, if you complete your LPC but could not secure a training contract for2 years, you're not a solicitor and thus, not a qualified person under the LPA 1976. You cannot come back to Malaysia and practice as a qualifed person and will have to sit for CLP exams in order to be a qualified person.

You should start applying for training contracts NOW!!!

If you get a 2 year contract, then all is well. If you can't then you better think it through.

:-)

Without a 2 year training contract, you are merely an LPC holder and not a Solicitor.

It is different for the BPTC. Upon completion of the vocational stage being the BPTC, and upon completion of the required dining sessons and any other conditions imposed by you Inn, you will be called to the Bar of England and Wales. In short, you are a barrister-at-law even if do not do a 12 months pupillage in England.

The risk is reduced significantly.

nice...

thanks for the explanation man..
so the only thing i need to do is secure a training contract right?
and by doing so and passing my LPC, i don't ahve to sit for my CLP back home right?

I'll try my best (=

soo.. anybody here currently working in the UK as a solicitor?

Basically to succeed in law studies is interest? Eventhough one is capable, and etc. Hardwork is of course very important but the first priority is interest and passion?

after awhile.. you loose that passion.. and the profession becomes like any other.. just a job...

and the law profession requires lots of hard work in addition to interest.