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post Jun 6 2008, 12:22 PM, updated 18y ago

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I hope that this is not a duplicating topic since no real discussion on intel E7200 although there is one on E8XXX peryn series.. blush.gif

The stock E7200 is actually a budget processor to the E8XXX series & having 1/2 of what those E8XXX series having..such as 3MB L2 Cache compare to 6MB L2. The following is the stock specs of this processor:

Code name = Woftdale. Core speed=2533Mhz, Mutiplier=9.5, Bus speed=266mhz, rated FSB=1066Mhz . Stock Vista score is at 5.4.

For my overclocking experience & history, I started wth a low budget MOBO Asrock Woftdale (Intel945 chipset) and it's such a dissapointement because the highest I can go is up to 310X9.5 or 2945Mhz. As a OC noob at that point of time, instead of changing the MOBO, I upgraded the HDF to Xigmatek HDT964. I was happy wth the tremendous reduction in the Temp but not OC!! It still no good & I can't bypass the 310X9.5 barrier!! mad.gif

No choice but to upgrade to P35 MOBO which I got it from a forumer here...ABit IP35P & that's how I feel that I should post the result here as well since I hv posted my OC experiences in hardwarezone singapore here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthre...=1950140&page=4

Nevertheless here is my latest at 3800Mhz Vcore 1.275V (Avg load temp 55C) & will continue further & targeting 4000Mhz or even 4500Mhz soon... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif


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erm think this can join intel penryn thread..nonid to make new thread nod.gif
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post Jun 6 2008, 03:32 PM

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Sorry moderator for re-opening this topic again...but the other thread availbale is only discussing on E8XXX series which is entirely different from E7XXX series which is a budget processor hmm.gif

Even Hardwarzone Singapore is having a separate Topic on E7200 hmm.gif ....Nevetheless I hope moderator to rethink because I do need feedback from E7200 users & not those E8200 or E8400 users... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 6 2008, 03:32 PM)
Sorry moderator for re-opening this topic again...but the other thread availbale is only discussing on E8XXX series which is entirely different from E7XXX series which is a budget processor  hmm.gif

Even Hardwarzone Singapore is having a separate Topic on E7200  hmm.gif ....Nevetheless I hope moderator to rethink because I do need feedback from E7200 users & not those E8200 or E8400 users... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 6 2008, 10:00 PM)
already purchase a E7200 too
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man....already got this topic ar??
kinda want to get this E7200..price cheap....same 45nm...just the cache is low....
so how far this baby can go? brows.gif
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My above posting is the best I can go...i.e 3800Mhz on 1.3V Vcore. Further than this system unstable sad.gif sad.gif

It's on Abit IP35P Mobo & Xigmatek HDT SD964 HSF - Fantastic cooler ...on high load, temp maintained at avg 55C (Max62C) only & idle temp at 44C

Wondering anyone getting higher than 3800Mhz.. hmm.gif ..If yes what is the voltage? I tried up the voltage to 1.35V but stil failed.. sad.gif
QUOTE(sempronic @ Jun 6 2008, 10:12 PM)
man....already got this topic ar??
kinda want to get this E7200..price cheap....same 45nm...just the cache is low....
so how far this baby can go? brows.gif
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I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9 rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 7 2008, 11:02 AM)
I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9  rclxm9.gif
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Your CPU vista score will explode with that core clock ...
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 7 2008, 11:02 AM)
I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9  rclxm9.gif
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omg...very nice proc....btw, waht is ur batch ar? brows.gif
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Naahhh....just Vista score..nothing to do wth explosion.... biggrin.gif ..Even at 3800Mhz..idel temp is at above....Load temp =55C probably by reducing VCORE, load temp probably 52C...I am predicting at 4000Mhz & 1.4V, probably temp will be at the range of 48C & load temp 65C... hmm.gif hmm.gif

Yesterday failed..but I know someone in Singapore did it by reducing mutiplier to 8 & FSB to 500Mhz!! Vcore if I'm not mistaken..1.4V+... hmm.gif

Nevertheless...at 3500Mhz & above, the passmark CPU benchmark tool dun looks great anymore wth small number increment as u can see from the 1st post sad.gif


Here is the benchmark website..intereting one brows.gif

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
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Your CPU vista score will explode with that core clock ...
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This is better than conroe
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On stock, the reviewa at those OC websites rated this 1/2 cooked E8XXX series as in between E4700 & E6700 processors..but from this website:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

The stock performance is actually better than the top conroe (E6750) which is running on 4MB L2 cache compare wth the 3MB L2 of E7200 rclxms.gif & it's ~RM150 cheaper than conroe E6750 & ~RM200 cheaper than E8400.. rclxms.gif

On oveclock stage..This is the one I can't believe..see the chart below:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

It's even higher than E8400 the fully cooked Woftdale... shocking.gif Nevertheless.I dun really believe that because at 3700Mhz, I only managed to score 2283 only (refer 1st posting) sad.gif which is abit higher than E8200 on overclocked stage thumbup.gif

OK latest on my overclock story...Although I'm able to run Vista core & Passmark score on 3800Mhz - but this Morning, I encountered cmos checksum error.. sad.gif ..so currently running at 3700Mhz only which I feel it's faster than running at 3800Mhz.. smile.gif



QUOTE(�layerXT @ Jun 8 2008, 02:27 AM)
This is better than conroe
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im going to allow this thread but if i feel its of no use im sorry, im going to close it down
ive seen posts like"wah nice proc" and all that here.
spam has to stop.

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stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??

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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??
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i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:03 PM)
i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
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Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
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wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
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U can check/compare the only extensive review of this processor here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...uo-e7200_2.html

As said earlier, it is almost the same tech as E8xxx series except having 1/2 the L2 Cache of E8 series processore, no VT & running on 1066 bus frequency compare to 1333 on E8xxx..It suppose to the budget processor to E8 series and having better than earlier conroe E4700 of even better than E6600. (Cheaper too rclxms.gif )

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wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
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Added on June 8, 2008, 3:39 pmImpossible-leh....can't get anything higher than 400X9.5 sad.gif ..Maybe MOBO limitation or even cheap Mem RAM.. blush.gif ..hehe..moderator so kind oledi..allowing the only topic on E7 series... rclxms.gif Hope no spamming too.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??
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Added on June 8, 2008, 3:51 pmWell, it's a small brother to E8xxx series..what u expect.. biggrin.gif ..Read thgis X-bit lab conclusion:

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I believe it won’t be too much to say that Intel prepared another remarkable product. From the user standpoint, the main advantage of Core 2 Duo E7200 is the fact that its launch reduced the cost of a new CPU with 45nm core. As a result, the new processor that came to replace Core 2 Duo E4700 raises the performance bar for mainstream Intel processors quite noticeably. Of course, it is not faster than Core 2 Duo E8000, losing about 10% to it, but it is significantly faster than Core 2 Duo E6550 and is just a little behind Core 2 Duo E6750. Moreover, Core 2 Duo E7200 boasts great overclocking potential and is capable of hitting frequencies close to 4GHz with just a few simple tricks.



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Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:16 PM)
Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
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ask pak google n u will see somebody did with 1.9v......

n i didnt say i did it on 9.5 multiplier also.... i just say max fsb.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 04:04 PM)
ask pak google n u will see somebody did with 1.9v......

n i didnt say i did it on 9.5 multiplier also.... i just say max fsb....  tongue.gif
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1.9v bro sweat.gif dry ice run?
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:03 PM)
i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jun 8 2008, 03:26 PM)
wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
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I managed to boot-up after increasing the FSB to 421X9.5 or suppose to be 3900Mhz & increasing the Vcore to 1.39V....,man idle temp shoot upt to 48-52C & load temp no joke...about 59-68C!! rclxub.gif

However not happy wth the overall result!! CPUz show that my core speed actually much lower..at ~1600Mhz only & boot-up time tremendously reduced... sad.gif ..Even if I reduced the multiplier..no help..I think to stay satble at 3800Mhz only sad.gif
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try not to reduce multipliers, play with default multipliers as much as you can unless its an extreme processor..
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QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jun 8 2008, 04:11 PM)
1.9v bro sweat.gif dry ice run?
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QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 8 2008, 04:19 PM)
any chance to go more?
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have u tried memset bro.. smile.gif by the way, ill join this gang soon tongue.gif the e7 gang biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 8 2008, 05:03 PM)
have u tried memset bro.. smile.gif by the way, ill join this gang soon tongue.gif the e7 gang biggrin.gif
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erm...why memset?

don really get ur point there..... rclxub.gif
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well memset is pretty neat with tweaking the rams..
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Haiz...right now keep on having CMOS check sum error msg during booting & all my OC, returned to original speed... sad.gif and that even I OC as low as 3600Mhz....haizz...dunno which setting that is in error....
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hye ts may i know what setting u put in abit mobo to achieve 3.8?
i plan to buy e7200 pair with offlimit or any1 can suggest me other mobo?
cuz my fren abit restart twice la.....
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My setting @3800mhz:

Maintained the 9.5 mutiplier
increase FSB to 400Mhz
Increase vcore to 1.255V (or more but wathc out on increasing temp..For those intended to OC>3000Mhz.I think should change HSF)
Other voltages -maintained
DDR set at 1:1 (5-5-5-15)

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QUOTE(pal33x @ Jun 10 2008, 02:05 PM)
hye ts may i know what setting u put in abit mobo to achieve 3.8?
i plan to buy e7200 pair with offlimit or any1 can suggest me other mobo?
cuz my fren abit restart twice la.....
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 10 2008, 02:28 PM)
My setting @3800mhz:

Maintained the 9.5 mutiplier
increase FSB to 400Mhz
Increase vcore to 1.255V (or more but wathc out on increasing temp..For those intended to OC>3000Mhz.I think should change HSF)
Other voltages -maintained
DDR set at 1:1 (5-5-5-15)

Disable EIST & ....(Aiyah let me chk later)
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I came across that Intel going to release new stepping E0 for 8k series processor. Not sure will 7k series will get "benefited" or not. Anyone know?
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diff between 8 series and 7 series like darkshyte says is the CACHE..the bigger the cache,the bigger the potential to OC,but the bigger the cache with no OC is bloody hell USELESS..just like a 6 lanes highway with 1 car..

btw i just bought E7200,have to join this clan haha
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Jun 15 2008, 12:43 PM)
diff between 8 series and 7 series like darkshyte says is the CACHE..the bigger the cache,the bigger the potential to OC,but the bigger the cache with no OC is bloody hell USELESS..just like a 6 lanes highway with  1 car..

btw i just bought E7200,have to join this clan haha
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yeah i also find that arguement not valid..

" the bigger the cache the bigger potential to OC"
usually its the other way around..

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:08 PM)
yeah i also find that arguement not valid..

" the bigger the cache the bigger potential to OC"
usually its the other way around..
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i would rather rephrase that the bigger the cache the chances of getting a good run on superpi is better. In OC, the cache doesnt matter because you are manipulating the clock cycles and not the registers in the CPU. The ability for it to run on high speeds depends on the stepping and also the quality of the silicon wafer the proc companies use.
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QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 15 2008, 01:05 PM)
are u serious about this?
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Think of the data paths that link all those things together as highways. If you try to fit too many cars down the highway, you get a traffic jam and some cars have to wait before they can get through. HyperTransport puts more lanes in the highway so more cars can flow through it. If you have two lanes, but only one car is going down the highway, adding a third lane won't make that car go faster. If you have a few thousand cars, but only two lanes, adding a third lane would make the flow move faster. I used wrong terminology...paiseh.. doh.gif
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the stepping will affect the oc capabilities. i dun think intel will produce E0 stepping for e7xxx serier, even C0 on e7xxx also quite imposible ~ mayb some bad batch fr e8xxx C0 will use to produce e7xxx.. lolx
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is your vdim at 2.2v?

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QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:58 PM)
mine batch Q815A471 VID 1.1V  with Biostar Tpower I45

Maxxx boots......1.7vcore drool.gif watercool
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i have no try add more voltage..
as i try it, it can be go to 3.6G @ v1.1xx, but very unstable...


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How much your vDimm??
As i can see, your ram SPD is 800 @ CAS6.

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guys which is better wolfdale or yorkfield?

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Depend on your usage. smile.gif

Wolfdale = 45nm Dual
Yorkfield = 45nm Quad

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E7200 produce greater heat compare to my E8200. Can even hit up to 91C on TT big water.
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do it on my msi p45 platinum


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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 8 2008, 02:09 AM)
do it on my msi p45 platinum
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jul 8 2008, 04:31 PM)
what's the max fsb for this proc on this mobo ya?
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Jul 8 2008, 05:42 PM)
dont know bro, my ram cant do high fsb.. sad.gif
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Cooling is TT big water. My water should be boiling, but the water tube is a little warm. rclxub.gif


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i am DAMNNNNNNNNN tempted with this proc
i pushed my e2160 up to 1.4v oso cant go pass 3.05ghz

wats the ideal and load temp of tis proc on stock cooler?
and for those who's running at 3.6++...
wats the temp u guys getting?

if i might need WC for tis proc....
i might have to cancel and save up for a quad proc =(
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previously i ran it at 3.6ghz with 1.248v full load, the temp was 55c using big typhoon, but the ambient temp are hot at my place here, even me hot till swt rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Jul 24 2008, 03:41 PM)
got it thermal throttled to 6x doh.gif
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is tat temp true.... if it true then sure ur mobo kaput d.... shocking.gif shocking.gif
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so far here's mine, still tweaking

using kvr & cheapo mobo:

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do u guys think that d latest batch can up with the old batch??
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here the result

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i think this proc can go further with good cooler and ram tongue.gif


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Nice OC there, what PSU you are using now...?
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what's the different between SLAVN & SLAPC?
any good on OC?
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guys any of u having trouble with the e7xxx, heard from a seller that he rma quite a numbers already, seems to be quite fragile the proc ??

btw, regardign the temp, i think should be the sensor issue, it should not be that high...
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guys any of u having trouble with the e7xxx, heard from a seller that he rma quite a numbers already, seems to be quite fragile the proc ??

btw, regardign the temp, i think should be the sensor issue, it should not be that high...
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i used it for one month then sold liao tongue.gif
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how come can rma few time ady? rclxub.gif
i also felt the sensor got problem..
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not few times lar, a few numbers....... mean multiple unit is having some problem......

well the rest i'm not sure, but 2 of the unit is DOA according to him...that why i'm wandering....

may be i should wait for the e5 series instead haha.......
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should around RM350
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aiyo price ler..
should around RM350
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like that e7200 more worth to get?? if less than rm300 then  rclxms.gif
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E5 has 2mb cache.. E7 3mb.. more cache is important for gaming..


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Intel C2D E7200 @ 2.53Ghz to 3.0Ghz
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got E7200 yesterday new batch# Q812A202 doing 4.5ghz with minimal tweak... its not mine ... just playing with it... tongue.gif

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got E7200 yesterday new batch# Q812A202 doing 4.5ghz with minimal tweak... its not mine ... just playing with it... tongue.gif
load temp ok ar?
hike easily when play with voltage.. sweat.gif

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got E7200 yesterday new batch# Q812A202 doing 4.5ghz with minimal tweak... its not mine ... just playing with it... tongue.gif
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Hi guys,icon_question.gif

I'm newbie here . Currently using Asus P5Q Deluxe MB. The bios setting to overclock this machine is too complicated. sweat.gif
currently my cpu is E7200.

i have few question here.

1)Can i just overclock the cpu without touching the FSB? sweat.gif
2)Can i know wat is cpu gtl voltage reference(0/2)?
3)Can i know wat is cpu gtl voltage reference(1/3)?
4)Can i know wat is cpu pll voltage?

thanks guys,
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Aug 8 2008, 11:45 AM)
SPI time don't seem to be that good sweat.gif
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crazy voltage u have there..............

btw any others benchs
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QUOTE(VentureLKW @ Aug 9 2008, 12:07 PM)
Hi guys,icon_question.gif

I'm newbie here . Currently using Asus P5Q Deluxe MB. The bios setting to overclock this machine is too complicated. sweat.gif
currently my cpu is E7200.

i have few question here.

1)Can i just overclock the cpu without touching the FSB? sweat.gif
2)Can i know wat is cpu gtl voltage reference(0/2)?
3)Can i know wat is cpu gtl voltage reference(1/3)?
4)Can i know wat is cpu pll voltage?

thanks guys,
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1. not really.... u will have to increase ur fsb to overclock ur proc....read here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry15451675

2 and 3. dont really know how to xplain cos i don really understand it either....its something to do with the VTT together...i heard its useful for quad-core OCing....but normally u don need to increase ur VTT unless u are doing over 500fsb for e7200....read here for understanding on GTL: http://www.edgeofstability.com/

4. do not touch that....heard that one will kill ur proc.....
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no lah... E7200 SPI times is inferior to E8xxx series... most also going 11s with maximum tweaks..
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This my overclock result

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=402747

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Im using E7200 + Asus P5K SE/EPU
why my multiplier at cpuz sometimes change to 6 n 9.5
how to make it stay at 9.5?
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QUOTE(muhdhafiz @ Aug 15 2008, 01:14 PM)
Im using E7200 + Asus P5K SE/EPU
why my multiplier at cpuz sometimes change to 6 n 9.5
how to make it stay at 9.5?
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muhdhafiz you got CPU temperature reading problem with P5K-SE?
i got one friend PC always show 60°C rclxub.gif
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E7200 FTW! icon_rolleyes.gif


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E7200 @ 4.28 ,536x8 , 1.45v (xigmatek 1283)

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why C2D logo in CPU-Z lost when you push to 500MHz?
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match7274 you use DDR3 icon_idea.gif
why C2D logo in CPU-Z lost when you push to 500MHz?
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may i know the big different between SLAVN and SLAPC?
which 1 generate less heat n less vcore in Ocing?
and which one easy to hit 4.0Ghz? drool.gif
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 16 2008, 11:12 AM)
match7274 you use DDR3 icon_idea.gif
why C2D logo in CPU-Z lost when you push to 500MHz?
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its ddr2..as icemocha said its bug tongue.gif
i disabled Multicore Computing under CPU section for single core which more stable to push over 500mhz+

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@match7274: no wonder la, haha

@sany1424: china site says SLAVN is retail pack(includes box, minisink, book, sticker), SLAPC is OEM pack(processor only).
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QUOTE(match7274 @ Aug 16 2008, 03:40 PM)
its ddr2..as icemocha said its bug  tongue.gif
i disabled Multicore Computing under CPU section for single core which more stable to push over 500mhz+

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went to pc shop, lot of them selling SLAPC and the box is smaller...
i wonder whats the different.... hmm.gif
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hmmm....no clue @ all wats the differents
i think E7200's easy to overclock to 4ghz or above with the rite settings
u use abit ip35e rite ..? this mobo performed very well too ^^ should be no problems



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QUOTE(match7274 @ Aug 16 2008, 07:31 PM)
hmmm....no clue @ all wats the differents
i think E7200's easy to overclock to 4ghz or above with the rite settings
u use abit ip35e rite ..? this mobo performed very well too ^^ should be no problems
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just to ensure, usually there must be a different between this two spec.
some newer spec wont allowed high ocing...

here is some info on SLAPC.

General information
Type CPU / Microprocessor
Family Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor number ? E7200
Part number EU80571PH0613M
BX80571E7200
BXC80571E7200
Frequency (GHz) 2.533
Bus speed (MHz) ? 1066
Clock multiplier ? 9.5
Package type 775-land LGA
Socket type Socket 775 (LGA775)

Architecture / Microarchitecture / Other
CPUID 010676h
Core stepping M0
Manufacturing technology (micron) 0.045
Number of cores 2
L2 cache size (MB) ? 3
Features EM64T technology ?
Enhanced SpeedStep technology ?
Execute disable bit ?
Extended Halt state
Extended Stop Grant state
Thermal Monitor 2
Core voltage (V) ? 0.85 - 1.3625
Case temperature (°C) ? 74.1
Thermal Design Power (Watt) ? 65

Notes on sSpec SLAPC

* This part has Deeper Sleep state enabled.=============>>>>>>>>>>>>>


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are all e7200 overclockable or only some batch are good in overclocking?
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are all e7200 overclockable or only some batch are good in overclocking?
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overclockable to what extent? 400MHz? 500MHz?

1MHz increment is also overclocking meh!
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overclockable to what extent? 400MHz? 500MHz?

1MHz increment is also overclocking meh!
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4ghz around there lo
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Well,go and read XS 7200 OC list,you can see which batch can do what clock
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QUOTE(E-J@1 @ Aug 16 2008, 09:23 PM)
1MHz increment is also overclocking meh!


yes. a very very very very very very mild one. smile.gif

but nowadays, 1mhz very difficult to do la. you increase 1mhz on FSB also you get it multiplied by the multiplier already. smile.gif

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lol..
i think its can be done ...with pumping the vcore without touching the fsb..it'll be gain 1 or 2 mhz ...


will try tht later ...HAHAHA


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new E7200 reporting in.
but mine is SLAPC, M0 stepping
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Mine is also SLAPC, but is retail pack (includes box, minisink/fan, book, sticker). Oc to 333 FSB and so far the temp is around 40++.

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Mine is also SLAPC. Oc to 333 FSB and so far the temp is around 40++.
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i thought im the only one using SLAPC. hehehe
oc to 333FSB on what vcore?
SS?
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i thought im the only one using SLAPC. hehehe
oc to 333FSB on what vcore?
SS?
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I just adjust the FSB, others i all put auto.
How bout u? Urs is a small box also with fan, book, sticker and cpu, rite??
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QUOTE(sany1424 @ Aug 17 2008, 09:03 PM)
new E7200 reporting in.
but mine is SLAPC, M0 stepping
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 PM)
I just adjust the FSB, others i all put auto.
How bout u? Urs is a small box also with fan, book, sticker and cpu, rite??
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try to pump more fsb ..all leave it auto ..but i recommend sets Over Clock Retry Count : 1
p.s: above 3.8ghz might need more tweaking ..good luck


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I don't dare le....
Barely 3days old, and i scared will ruin the cpu.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Aug 17 2008, 09:55 PM)
I just adjust the FSB, others i all put auto.
How bout u? Urs is a small box also with fan, book, sticker and cpu, rite??
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yup! cut cost one...hehehehe.
just bought it today, can reach 4.0ghz.


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QUOTE(sany1424 @ Aug 17 2008, 10:21 PM)
yup! cut cost one...hehehehe.
just bought it today, can reach 4.0ghz.
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u mean on stock vcore??
dats incredible... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
now in dilemma to get either x3xxx or e7xxx... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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u mean on stock vcore??
dats incredible... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
now in dilemma to get either x3xxx or e7xxx... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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no laaa.....sure stock clock cannot reach 4.0Ghz
running 4.0ghz only for 5 minit.

x brani lame2 wooo....
just wanna test it can reach or not.
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Aug 17 2008, 10:09 PM)
I don't dare le....
Barely 3days old, and i scared will ruin the cpu.. laugh.gif
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hehe...u wont ruined ur proc .. 3.8ghz was ez for E7200


QUOTE(tech_frix @ Aug 17 2008, 11:52 PM)
u mean on stock vcore??
dats incredible... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
now in dilemma to get either x3xxx or e7xxx... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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get E7xxx and its getting cheap and overclockable ....

QUOTE(sany1424 @ Aug 18 2008, 01:04 AM)
no laaa.....sure stock clock cannot reach 4.0Ghz
running 4.0ghz only for 5 minit.

x brani lame2 wooo....
just wanna test it can reach or not.
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^^ vcore needed to clock to 4.0ghz??


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maybe 3.8ghz can stable with stock r??
but X3320 is really geng lor...
or can i request sumone to post up 3dMark or somthng??
want to compare the cpu score...
or at least super PI...
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IINM mine also SLAPC.. this is new batch i think..

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stock clock - 2200-2300 cpu score
4ghz - 3500 cpu score
3.6 - 3200

but i really worry about the temp.. prime can reach 70C
playing game around 50C...
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yours running 4ghz at what vcore?
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QUOTE(sany1424 @ Aug 18 2008, 07:29 PM)
yours running 4ghz at what vcore?
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bro, can pm me which shop u bought ur E7200 and how much?
whats d FPO or batch numbers??
i'm really2 confused either go for quad or duo... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(sany1424 @ Aug 18 2008, 07:29 PM)
yours running 4ghz at what vcore?
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1.5v like that.. for stable ofcourse..
now reduce the clock speed to reduce the voltage supplied..
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yur proc reach 4Ghz just using standard fan?
that's cool....
these core 2 duo very low at temperature huh?
now i also confuse either upgrade to quad or duo...
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Noctua is not stock heatsink.. n surpass 70C is not low..
3.8ghz is more than enough.. playing games just utilise 70% only..
unless u really need that quad..
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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Aug 19 2008, 09:26 AM)
yur proc reach 4Ghz just using standard fan?
that's cool....
these core 2 duo very low at temperature huh?
now i also confuse either upgrade to quad or duo...
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this processor is very tempting. anyone oc 7400 yet?


Added on August 19, 2008, 2:53 pm@8tv why your load is so high? noctua should be very good? what fan you use?

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using noctua fan also..
yup during prime the temp is skyhigh.. i think becoz of dts issue..
that reading just use software and maybe not accurate..
the temp increase if the voltage set high..

actually my gpu generate more heat but only 60C like that..
i doubt the cpu's temp reading is accurate coz the heatsink not that hot..
i assume 70-80C just plain safe.. just reported incorrectly..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 19 2008, 04:17 PM)
using noctua fan also..
yup during prime the temp is skyhigh.. i think becoz of dts issue..
that reading just use software and maybe not accurate..
the temp increase if the voltage set high..

actually my gpu generate more heat but only 60C like that..
i doubt the cpu's temp reading is accurate coz the heatsink not that hot..
i assume 70-80C just plain safe.. just reported incorrectly..
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try to use multiple software on temp reading...
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Aug 19 2008, 08:49 AM)
bro, can pm me which shop u bought ur E7200 and how much?
whats d FPO or batch numbers??
i'm really2 confused either go for quad or duo... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
sumone enlighten me plsss.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Aug 19 2008, 08:49 AM)
bro, can pm me which shop u bought ur E7200 and how much?
whats d FPO or batch numbers??
i'm really2 confused either go for quad or duo... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
sumone enlighten me plsss.... tongue.gif
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just go for this dual-core IMO..

OC higher n cooler... vdroop oso lesser and its cheaper brows.gif

n then, i can tell u i cant really feel a diff using my previous e7200 and compare with my q6600 running at the same clock for normal daily use...

but then e7200 only have 3mb cache which will reduce ur performance in games by 5-10% according to some bench....
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 19 2008, 07:37 PM)
just go for this dual-core IMO..

OC higher n cooler... vdroop oso lesser and its cheaper brows.gif

n then, i can tell u i cant really feel a diff using my previous e7200 and compare with my q6600 running at the same clock for normal daily use...

but then e7200 only have 3mb cache which will reduce ur performance in games by 5-10% according to some bench....
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but x3320 got fat cache and 4 cores summore...hehehe brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Aug 20 2008, 01:32 PM)
but x3320 got fat cache and 4 cores summore...hehehe brows.gif  brows.gif
but can u post ur cpu score r boss?? nod.gif
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the e7200 sold long long time ago... don have score to compare and i lazy to run my 3dmark for q6600 oso tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Aug 20 2008, 06:48 PM)
haiya... like that u nonit ask what proc to go edi lo tongue.gif

the e7200 sold long long time ago... don have score to compare and i lazy to run my 3dmark for q6600 oso tongue.gif
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hehe...its ok if like dat...
now really pening lor... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
want to OC to 3.2ghz stock vcore on quaddies... brows.gif brows.gif
but if E7200 is proven to heat d beat on X3320, i might reconsider... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Aug 20 2008, 11:00 PM)
hehe...its ok if like dat...
now really pening lor... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
want to OC to 3.2ghz stock vcore on quaddies... brows.gif  brows.gif
but if E7200 is proven to heat d beat on X3320, i might reconsider... laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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hmm...actaully i have to re-correct myself... e7200 is actually hot also when running on high clocks like 3.8ghz....

u don so tamak la.... this kinda gem proc is hard to find sweat.gif

as long as can reach the clock u want can already lo....
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i did a 8x450 @ 1.3vcore. smile.gif still OCing now.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 21 2008, 04:58 AM)
i did a 8x450 @ 1.3vcore. smile.gif still OCing now.
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E7200?? tongue.gif
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3.6ghz - 1.3v
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i maintain @ this setting atm for 24/7  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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afterall u not running 4ghz 24/7 whistling.gif
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lol..running for fifth days ady ..

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Hey OCers,

I'm a newbie or noob in overclocking. I have an E7200. I want to overclock it to around 3Ghz to 3.2Ghz just for abit more performance. I've read the Intel C2D overclocking guide. But still I have some questions to ask.
I have a Team Elite PC-6400 800Mhz RAM with a Gigabyte EP43-DS3L. So yeah, I'm very sure overclocking is easier with these things.

First, I just need to keep the stock voltage, and just increase the FSB frequency?
Do I really have to set the VGA PCIe frequency to 100mhz? Or setting the memory multiplier to the lowest?
Then If I do, Will it affect the performance? Or I change the FSB frequency to 315-320Mhz? Then do a stability test with Orthos for about 5 hours? I usually on my com for about 6 hours straight If I play games. Then, if it is good enough. Then should I set back the memory multiplier and the VGA PCIe frequency to default, after the test or before the test?

I'm very glad and priviledged if someone help me..thanks.

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 21 2008, 03:09 PM)
onload? fully 100% 4ghz?  yawn.gif
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but ok lor if can survive for 5 days with that vcore... sweat.gif
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maybe not on full load lor...
but ok lor if can survive for 5 days with that vcore... sweat.gif
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sure ok if 50% usage.. but if when u need power the most later not stable what for?
i saw alot of ppl set 4ghz with less voltage.. yes can boot n log windows..
but the thing is.. whether it's stable or not.. hardly proven..
if really stable than thumbs up!
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Hey OCers,

I'm a newbie or noob in overclocking. I have an E7200. I want to overclock it to around 3Ghz to 3.2Ghz just for abit more performance. I've read the Intel C2D overclocking guide. But still I have some questions to ask.
I have a Team Elite PC-6400 800Mhz RAM with a Gigabyte EP43-DS3L. So yeah, I'm very sure overclocking is easier with these things.

First, I just need to keep the stock voltage, and just increase the FSB frequency?
Do I really have to set the VGA PCIe frequency to 100mhz? Or setting the memory multiplier to the lowest?
Then If I do, Will it affect the performance? Or I change the FSB frequency to 315-320Mhz? Then do a stability test with Orthos for about 5 hours? I usually on my com for about 6 hours straight If I play games. Then, if it is good enough. Then should I set back the memory multiplier and the VGA PCIe frequency to default, after the test or before the test?

I'm very glad and priviledged if someone help me..thanks.
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for which proc boss??
E7200?? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(JayCY @ Aug 21 2008, 05:07 PM)
First, I just need to keep the stock voltage, and just increase the FSB frequency?
Do I really have to set the VGA PCIe frequency to 100mhz? Or setting the memory multiplier to the lowest?
Then If I do, Will it affect the performance? Or I change the FSB frequency to 315-320Mhz? Then do a stability test with Orthos for about 5 hours? I usually on my com for about 6 hours straight If I play games. Then, if it is good enough. Then should I set back the memory multiplier and the VGA PCIe frequency to default, after the test or before the test?


1. increase the FSB will do. only increase voltage when things can't run.

2. don't touch the VGA PCI-E.

3. memory multiplier?

4. yes just change FSB. Orthos fail also ok wan. just that you don't get 100% perfect stability but on the other hand, still can play games wan la. If play game keep crashing and all, then yeah really unstable lor.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 21 2008, 06:12 PM)
E7200 lor
1. increase the FSB will do. only increase voltage when things can't run.

2. don't touch the VGA PCI-E.

3. memory multiplier?

4. yes just change FSB. Orthos fail also ok wan. just that you don't get 100% perfect stability but on the other hand, still can play games wan la. If play game keep crashing and all, then yeah really unstable lor.
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any significant changes between these E7200??
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 21 2008, 04:37 PM)
sure ok if 50% usage.. but if when u need power the most later not stable what for?
i saw alot of ppl set 4ghz with less voltage.. yes can boot n log windows..
but the thing is.. whether it's stable or not.. hardly proven..
if really stable than thumbs up!
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somehow i got feeling ur statement was kind of thumbup.gif ..no offense ya ..cuz wat u thinking was same with me.. .haha laugh.gif notworthy.gif
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E7200 lor
1. increase the FSB will do. only increase voltage when things can't run.

2. don't touch the VGA PCI-E.

3. memory multiplier?

4. yes just change FSB. Orthos fail also ok wan. just that you don't get 100% perfect stability but on the other hand, still can play games wan la. If play game keep crashing and all, then yeah really unstable lor.
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Right...Thanks. But at least how long I should run the stability test, whether it is prime95 or Orthos?
What about the memory multiplier should i make it like 2.4?
Lets say my FSB is about 334x9. my memory mulitiplier would be 2.4
So it will be 334x2.4 is 801.6.
Can this be done?

Normally, what is the highest Ghz it can reach with the stock voltages for E7200? Thanks.

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QUOTE(match7274 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:27 PM)
somehow i got feeling ur statement was kind of  thumbup.gif ..no offense ya ..cuz wat u thinking was same with me.. .haha laugh.gif  notworthy.gif
no points to oc if not stable  tongue.gif
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u gaming in what resolution?
i think by average 4ghz cpu just optimize 70% n that's why no problem happen for some game..
not even reach the limit which require more voltage..

so at the moment i set 3.6-3-8 clock to make sure i'm using it @ optimum condition with appropriate vcore..
infact i'm still not hit 100% cpu usage coz still gaming in 1280res..
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1650x1050 custom settings on Grid =)

edit its 1680x1050 reso..keke

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QUOTE(JayCY @ Aug 22 2008, 12:11 AM)
What about the memory multiplier should i make it like 2.4?
Lets say my FSB is about 334x9. my memory mulitiplier would be 2.4
So it will be 334x2.4 is 801.6.
Can this be done?


aahh the FSB:RAM ratio thing la

it depends on your BIOS la

for me, i always run it at 1:1

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 23 2008, 08:13 AM)
aahh the FSB:RAM ratio thing la

it depends on your BIOS la

for me, i always run it at 1:1
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I'm using E7200 now. E2140 died. smile.gif

E7200 currently running at 8.5x426mhz.
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Im sure E7200 will not bottleneck the new GPUs when it is overclocked. Goldfries, are you able to do a benchmark for HD4850 with your o'ced E7200 to see the difference?
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Hello guys !

I need 1.35V for my E7200 to hit 3.8G (400*9.5) , max temp for core = 60 & cpu = 54 .

Is the voltage ok ?

Bypass orthos for 50mins can it consider stable ?

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if stable than ok.. but try more than 1 hour or try this
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/766472
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 28 2008, 10:46 AM)
if stable than ok.. but try more than 1 hour or try this
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/766472
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Just pass 1 hr 22 mins . smile.gif

How much volt I need to add to archieve 500*8 ?

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Just pass 1 hr 22 mins  .  smile.gif

How much volt I need to add to archieve 500*8 ?
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~1.5v like that.. but check the temp.. sweat.gif
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Grab some proc last weekend, and one of them is E7200. So here goes my first test with it.

Test setup
Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 (VID 1.0875)
Gigabyte EP45 Extreme (Bios F6h beta)
GSkill 4GB Kit PC8000 CL5 PQ series
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E7200 3.6GHz 1.152VCore
Orthos Blend priority 8 (running for 5hours++ and still running at the time of posting)
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nice msyafiq_m.. less vcore.. which batch?
have tried 4ghz?
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FPO #: Q817A797

not yet.currently tweaking my QX9650 (borrowed actually.. tongue.gif ). will continue working on this setup tomorrow.

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@8tvt : as promise, E7200 @4GHz


E7200 2.5GHz @ 4.0GHz 1.296VCore Orthos Blend priority 8 5Hours+
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try stressing it using ibt.10 loop minimum.then post the result here.
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@8tvt : as promise, E7200 @4GHz
E7200 2.5GHz @ 4.0GHz 1.296VCore Orthos Blend priority 8 5Hours+
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wow! u got a gem there.. <1.3v sure can push until 4.5..
this will make 8series cry..
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QUOTE(JayCY @ Aug 23 2008, 01:07 PM)
Im sure E7200 will not bottleneck the new GPUs when it is overclocked. Goldfries, are you able to do a benchmark for HD4850 with your o'ced E7200 to see the difference?
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actually la. i've already done E7200 stock /dc / oc test and article will be published this week......... or was it this weekend. biggrin.gif in short, article coming out la.

it's tested on GTX280 brows.gif
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Im using Asus EN8500GT 1GB 128BIT
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wat about Cooler?
Hyper 212 good enough to handle 4.0Ghz?
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QUOTE(muhdhafiz @ Sep 9 2008, 11:14 PM)
Im using Asus EN8500GT 1GB 128BIT
450watt true power
wat about Cooler?
Hyper 212 good enough to handle 4.0Ghz?
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basically for that setup 450watt psu is enuf...

but to get 4ghz stable 24/7 it will have to depend what chip u get...

mine old chip hardly does 3.8ghz with 1.4v sweat.gif

n to go up to 4ghz an e7200 will get quite hot... suggest u get a better cooler
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get 500w+ instead of changing it in future
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hyper 212 will be more than enough plus there is offer at the garage sales.
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my E7200 reporting in.no so good result.
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ur screenshot not clear la bro...cannot see..
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guys what rams are recommended
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just got my e7200 .... guys stock cooler can overclock to max speed ?
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insane Vcore...
how bout d temp??
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QUOTE(underworld @ Sep 24 2008, 08:57 AM)
just got my e7200 .... guys stock cooler can overclock to max speed ?
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I dont think so bro.
Currently im using stock HSF and OC 316*9.5 = 3.0Ghz
I dont dare to OC higher.
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shit wei why my one C0 stepping
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QUOTE(choyster @ Sep 24 2008, 08:10 PM)
shit wei why my one C0 stepping
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u used which cpu-z ver?
really ar got C0 in 7 series? i only heard about 8 series..

like that even better.. give me if u don't want..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 25 2008, 10:59 AM)
u used which cpu-z ver?
really ar got C0 in 7 series? i only heard about 8 series..

like that even better.. give me if u don't want..
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QUOTE(ping86 @ Sep 17 2008, 12:25 AM)
my E7200 reporting in.no so good result.


good already la. mine motherboard limitation, go up to 3.6 only with 8.5x425.
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now running at 3ghz dont dare to go futher without good cooling and rams
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still good what.
can u run 3dmark06 cpu test and tell me what score does it get.
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Wanna ask u guys
Why when i check my proc speed using CPUZ, sometimes the Mhz speed change...




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QUOTE(muhdhafiz @ Sep 25 2008, 07:39 PM)
Wanna ask u guys
Why when i check my proc speed using CPUZ, sometimes the Mhz speed change...
u didn't disable the EIST.. look at bios..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 25 2008, 08:14 PM)
u didn't disable the EIST.. look at bios..
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May I know whats EIST stand 4?
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May I know whats EIST stand 4?
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HERE

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yes tq,
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do we need to turn off EIST for more stable clocks?
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Sorry sifu...
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EIST causes your voltage to fluctuate. This can affect the stability of your overclock. So when you're testing, turn it off.
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hi i just overclock my 7200 to 3.1ghz ... i just change the fsb.... i use core temp . temp is around 53c and my core voltage is 1.08v ....
shud i increase my voltage to 1.2v? or higher

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now my pc run at 4GHz 1.53v vcore 24/7 stable with idle 39'c full load 70'c water cooling
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im about to be a e7200 user and have a few question.
does it require extra voltage at 3.3ghz??
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at 3.3GHz no need extra voltage.mine at 3.5GHz still can use 1.1 vcore
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hey guys, is there any special batch that i have to look upon when buying the e7200?

i'm interested in this proc. currently in my mind i'm thinking of getting an e5200, but then after reading reviews, this proc fares better before OC and even after OC smile.gif


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QUOTE(underworld @ Sep 28 2008, 12:47 PM)
hi i just overclock my 7200 to 3.1ghz ... i just change the fsb.... i use core temp . temp is around 53c and my core voltage is 1.08v ....
shud i increase my voltage to 1.2v? or higher
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good to hear u start overclocking my ex-e7200..hehe
@ 3.1ghz no need to add more voltages..
pump few more fsb to 3.2ghz ^^

o'ced b4 to 550 fsb its still below 1.5v icon_rolleyes.gif


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at 3.3GHz no need extra voltage.mine at 3.5GHz still can use 1.1 vcore
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wow really??
but does it stable though???
can it pass intel burn test???
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@ load at 70'c doesnt sound so nice to me =P
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im about to be a e7200 user and have a few question.
does it require extra voltage at 3.3ghz??
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it has to depends on chip tho....

iirc mine old sucky chip needs to add vcore a lil to stable at 3.3ghz sweat.gif
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e7200 user reporting in....

believe mine e7200 consume more power
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me too just become a E7200 user here.....
cant believe this proc is so cold.
load temp at stock vcore and clock is 36'c.....
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nice load temp...
but what cooling and TIM u using?
and ur speed??
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if no oc i believe can get lower

cause no oc wif my KW n tuniq tx2 the temp last time nearly 30 only if not mistaken.. load at 34~35 lolz
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i can get it stable and pass IBT at 3.4ghz@1.35v.
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and d temp??
care to post some screenies??
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uiks how come mate i can pas 4ghz d but da voltage at 1.4+
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dats y we need pictars....
not that we dont believe, we just want to see all d settings...
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 7 2008, 04:26 PM)
dats y we need pictars....
not that we dont believe, we just want to see all d settings...
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bro maybe u can check mine from here bro e7200 wif dk p45
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ya la.
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can u guys help me out with that..........
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i guess there is nothing wrong... diff software will give diff readings....

just follow the ones with 100tjmax bro thumbup.gif
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prob solved thanks to tkh
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but at that setting it wasnt stable so i m running at 3.5ghz at 1.395v
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Whoaaa...ur core temp @58C is alarming high....better change to a better HSF b4 the MOBO grilled.. biggrin.gif
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the last time i use this proc i got it stable at 400x9@1.365v

pass 10 run of IBT.......stable like a rock.
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Wow, why is this thread unactive for a long time, E7XXX series users extinct already rclxub.gif ? Guess I have to bring this thread up with my results. nod.gif
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wa.. this thread really inactive anymore.. y everyone posting E7200 onli? how bout E73, 74, 75??

i m using E7400 E0 now, 2x2GB KVR 800Mhz, mobo is giga EP45-UD3L..

anyone OC-ed tis E7400 before? wat is the max u can go with stock HSF onli? lol..
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I owned E7200. I wan to oc it but afraid a bit coz im newb, currently using stock mobo, cooler and psu. Might to buy Asus mobo and thermaltake cooler.
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i just got my E7300!! but need to wait for new cooler...can't OC yet... btw guys, for E7300, wht stepping are good for OC?
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wa.. this thread really inactive anymore.. y everyone posting E7200 onli? how bout E73, 74, 75??

i m using E7400 E0 now, 2x2GB KVR 800Mhz, mobo is giga EP45-UD3L..

anyone OC-ed tis E7400 before? wat is the max u can go with stock HSF onli? lol..
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many ppl bought e7200 becoz it is cheaper biggrin.gif
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haha...oredi sold mine...yes i think ccf enuff to cool,heheh...why dun u try WC

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QUOTE(stimix @ Oct 13 2008, 09:05 AM)
Whoaaa...ur core temp @58C is alarming high....better change to a better HSF b4 the MOBO grilled.. biggrin.gif
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its cool for me. 75~80c is high for me tongue.gif . depending how dare u r laugh.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi
Whats the max stable OC using Stock voltage and stock intel HSF for E7400??
is 3.5ghz to 4ghz possible?? using a g31 chipset from asus or gigabyte with 4gb ddr2 value ram 800 bus??

if i raise the voltage to 1.35v can then whats the max stable oc i can get??
again using g31 chipset and 4 gb value ram ddr2. this time using stock hsf or cm hyper tx2??

I want 4.0 ghz thats my limits for e7400 is it possible?
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ May 1 2009, 12:53 AM)
Hi
Whats the max stable OC using Stock voltage and stock intel HSF for E7400??
is 3.5ghz to 4ghz possible?? using a g31 chipset from asus or gigabyte with 4gb ddr2 value ram 800 bus??

if i raise the voltage to 1.35v can then whats the max stable oc i can get??
again using g31 chipset and 4 gb value ram ddr2. this time using stock hsf or cm hyper tx2??

I want 4.0 ghz thats my limits for e7400 is it possible?
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Try yourself,no one have answer for this question unless you test yourself biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ May 1 2009, 01:02 AM)
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ May 1 2009, 12:53 AM)
Hi
Whats the max stable OC using Stock voltage and stock intel HSF for E7400??
is 3.5ghz to 4ghz possible?? using a g31 chipset from asus or gigabyte with 4gb ddr2 value ram 800 bus??

if i raise the voltage to 1.35v can then whats the max stable oc i can get??
again using g31 chipset and 4 gb value ram ddr2. this time using stock hsf or cm hyper tx2??

I want 4.0 ghz thats my limits for e7400 is it possible?
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i managed to reach 3.3GHz with my E7300 with stock vcore... that is the best i can go with stock vcore..i guess E7400 cn do better... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jun 1 2009, 09:49 PM)
i managed to reach 3.3GHz with my E7300 with stock vcore... that is the best i can go with stock vcore..i guess E7400 cn do better...  thumbup.gif
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yr E7300 stable at 3.3 onot? i guess yr FSB is 330x10?

i'm pumping my E7400 with stock Vcore and stock HSF.. see how far it can go.. now i m at 3.0.. still going..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jun 4 2009, 01:40 AM)
yr E7300 stable at 3.3 onot? i guess yr FSB is 330x10?

i'm pumping my E7400 with stock Vcore and stock HSF.. see how far it can go.. now i m at 3.0.. still going..
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yup mine is 330x10 n its stable....
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jun 7 2009, 11:23 PM)
yup mine is 330x10 n its stable....
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cool.. so how's the temperature? using stock cooler or 3rd party cooler?
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cool.. so how's the temperature? using stock cooler or 3rd party cooler?
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using stock cooler with tx-2...the idle temp is around 39 to 41 thumbup.gif
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using stock cooler with tx-2...the idle temp is around 39 to 41  thumbup.gif
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idle temp wont hav much temperature difference between OC n non-OC.. my concern is about the load temperature..

anyway, wat mobo r u using?
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jun 8 2009, 09:35 AM)
idle temp wont hav much temperature difference between OC n non-OC.. my concern is about the load temperature..

anyway, wat mobo r u using?
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my full load temp is a bit high...around 65 to 75....need a better cooler i guess... i'm using DFI blood iron p35
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ya.. load temperature will definitely be high using stock cooler.. i stop at 3.2Ghz cz i dun wan my proc temperature to exceed 65°C.. will get a cooler soon..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jun 8 2009, 07:52 PM)
ya.. load temperature will definitely be high using stock cooler.. i stop at 3.2Ghz cz i dun wan my proc temperature to exceed 65°C.. will get a cooler soon..
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jun 8 2009, 07:59 PM)
xigmatek thor hammer look nice...  drool.gif
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anyone here having reached 600fsb++????
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yup.. but tat's rm200+ if not mistaken.. my budget is <Rm150 nia.. looking at Xigmatek RS or SCCF..
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Gigabyte EP45-UD3L.. cheaper bit.. but should be performing quite well..
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E7400 user reporting in.

If I use a stock cooler OC to 3.49Ghz (266 x 10.5) when I ran Prime95, my temperature can reach 90+ celcius!

I bought a Coolermaster Hyper TX2 cooler, rat the test again and the temperature only reaches 62 celcius. rclxms.gif

But the idle temp for both stock and TX2 is quite the same. 42 celcius. sad.gif
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i think the most users in this series is E7200 and E7400.. so how's yr E7500? ok? got OC?
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i think the most users in this series is E7200 and E7400.. so how's yr E7500? ok? got OC?
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jul 3 2009, 05:30 PM)
i'm just using e7300...  doh.gif  i just wnt to see some result from e7500 users..  thumbup.gif
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i mean if u compare the number of users amond E7XXX series.. most is E7200 and E7400.. hmm.gif mayb we should make a poll? laugh.gif
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i mean if u compare the number of users amond E7XXX series.. most is E7200 and E7400.. hmm.gif mayb we should make a poll? laugh.gif
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a poll? ahah btw, this thread hv been quiet for a while... i guess many E7XXX users upgraded to E8XXX already hmm.gif ...wish i hv money cry.gif ... Q9XXX is so tempting drool.gif

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this thread is always quiet.. so how's yr E7300? anything good or bad u wanna share?
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this thread is always quiet.. so how's yr E7300? anything good or bad u wanna share?
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nahh...mine is just the same like the others...bored already with mine...wanna play with Q9XXX... drool.gif how bout ur E7400? how far u cn go?
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jul 4 2009, 05:24 PM)
nahh...mine is just the same like the others...bored already with mine...wanna play with Q9XXX...  drool.gif  how bout ur E7400? how far u cn go?
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mine? now push to 3.2Ghz with stock Vcore and stock HSF.. stopped cz dun wan the temperature go higher than 70.. now on full load with LinX is 66°C @ 3.2Ghz..

wait till i get a better cooler then mayb i will try push it higher..
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mine? now push to 3.2Ghz with stock Vcore and stock HSF.. stopped cz dun wan the temperature go higher than 70.. now on full load with LinX is 66°C @ 3.2Ghz..

wait till i get a better cooler then mayb i will try push it higher..
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ha.. no need so powerful.. i din go up to 4.0 oso.. i think i will stop around 3.6 or 3.8Ghz.. eyeing on xigmatek RS.. cheap and good..
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ha.. no need so powerful.. i din go up to 4.0 oso.. i think i will stop around 3.6 or 3.8Ghz.. eyeing on xigmatek RS.. cheap and good..
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RS need crossbow kit meh? i tot it is good to go without it? hmm.gif
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RS need crossbow kit meh? i tot it is good to go without it? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jul 5 2009, 11:30 AM)
sure it cn go without it...but i heard the crossbow kit will gv better performance, correct me if i'm wrong notworthy.gif
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better performance mayb cz can mount it properly n securely? giving more contact between the HS with the proc i guess.. i will giv it a go without the crossbow and see how it goes.. now looking for 2nd hand RS to save some money icon_rolleyes.gif
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i mean if u compare the number of users amond E7XXX series.. most is E7200 and E7400.. hmm.gif mayb we should make a poll? laugh.gif
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Just bought a E7400 to run my NAS rig, and plan on some OC. I've paired it with a spare mobo (Asus P5N7A-VM), and currently it's cooled by a stock Q9550 HSF as it has a copper base and is slightly taller than the stock E7400 HSF. I'm trying to keep costs low so I'm hoping not to have to get an aftermarket cooler (I have 4 Zalmans, a NT06, a TRUE and a V10 on my other rigs). I do have a 140mm Xigmatek fan mounted above the CPU and aimed directly at it (CM Gladiator casing), so hopefully that will help a bit.

Will post my results here later.. but for now, I'll be reading up on earlier posts to see what people have achieved.
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i think the best i saw someone with a E7400 is 3.5Ghz @ stock Vcore n stock HSF..

as for me, i m at 3.2Ghz @ stock Vcore n HSF.. reason i stop is bcz the temperature hit 67°C at 100% load during LinX test.. don't wanna exceed the 70°C limit so i stopped..

btw, mine is a E0 stepping.. how bout yrs traveler?

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i think the best i saw someone with a E7400 is 3.5Ghz @ stock Vcore n stock HSF..

as for me, i m at 3.2Ghz @ stock Vcore n HSF.. reason i stop is bcz the temperature hit 67°C at 100% load during LinX test.. don't wanna exceed the 70°C limit so i stopped..

btw, mine is a E0 stepping.. how bout yrs traveler?
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Try change with a Cooler Master TX2 heatsink. @full load maximum temperature of 67 C can OC till 3.65Ghz.. rclxms.gif
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CM TX2 is not as good as xiggy RS.. i think i can reach <60 if using RS with yr settings.. juz my guess..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 8 2009, 01:34 AM)
CM TX2 is not as good as xiggy RS.. i think i can reach <60 if using RS with yr settings.. juz my guess..
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How much is the Xiggy RS price?
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 8 2009, 01:56 AM)
How much is the Xiggy RS price?
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cheapest i found now is RM130.. i noe TX2 is cheaper if i m not mistaken..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 8 2009, 11:21 AM)
cheapest i found now is RM130.. i noe TX2 is cheaper if i m not mistaken..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 7 2009, 05:16 PM)
i think the best i saw someone with a E7400 is 3.5Ghz @ stock Vcore n stock HSF..
as for me, i m at 3.2Ghz @ stock Vcore n HSF.. reason i stop is bcz the temperature hit 67°C at 100% load during LinX test.. don't wanna exceed the 70°C limit so i stopped..
btw, mine is a E0 stepping.. how bout yrs traveler?
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Just went to 3.5GHz (10.5x333) @stock Vcore using the Q9550 stock HSF in first attempt. At full load (folding) temps are around 55-58C. This is the SLB9Y (R0 stepping). Will let it run 24 hours and if stable then will try it with one of the many Intel stock HSF I have - probably the one that looks beefiest in size and fan power; and see if the older bigger HSF is better than the newer slim ones. Then later will push speeds higher.

QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 8 2009, 01:15 AM)
Try change with a Cooler Master TX2 heatsink. @full load maximum temperature of 67 C can OC till 3.65Ghz..  rclxms.gif
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Am getting <60C with my dinky stock HSF already biggrin.gif In any case, if I can achieve a decent OC with the stock HSF, I'll be satisfied as I don't want to spend any more $$ on aftermarket coolers. If I really need to, I can swap in my NT06.
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QUOTE(Traveler @ Jul 8 2009, 10:48 PM)
Just went to 3.5GHz (10.5x333) @stock Vcore using the Q9550 stock HSF in first attempt. At full load (folding) temps are around 55-58C. This is the SLB9Y (R0 stepping). Will let it run 24 hours and if stable then will try it with one of the many Intel stock HSF I have - probably the one that looks beefiest in size and fan power; and see if the older bigger HSF is better than the newer slim ones. Then later will push speeds higher.
Am getting <60C with my dinky stock HSF already  biggrin.gif  In any case, if I can achieve a decent OC with the stock HSF, I'll be satisfied as I don't want to spend any more $$ on aftermarket coolers. If I really need to, I can swap in my NT06.
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wow.. yr temperature readings are nice.. 3.5Ghz onli 58°C max.. but have u tried 100% full load constant? stress test or burn test? i never do folding so i dunno how much processing power they use..

any difference between Q9550 HSF n E7400 HSF?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 8 2009, 11:14 PM)
wow.. yr temperature readings are nice.. 3.5Ghz onli 58°C max.. but have u tried 100% full load constant? stress test or burn test? i never do folding so i dunno how much processing power they use..

any difference between Q9550 HSF n E7400 HSF?? hmm.gif
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Folding uses 100% constant CPU loading. The Q9550 HSF is marginally taller, has a round copper base (E7400 is full aluminum) and 7.2W Delta fan (E7400 has a 2.4W Nidec fan).
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QUOTE(Traveler @ Jul 8 2009, 11:31 PM)
Folding uses 100% constant CPU loading. The Q9550 HSF is marginally taller, has a round copper base (E7400 is full aluminum) and 7.2W Delta fan (E7400 has a 2.4W Nidec fan).
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aw.. i see the difference now..

mine is 66°C max @ 3.2Ghz.. yrs 58°C max at 3.5Ghz.. blush.gif hazairi 67°C @ 3.65Ghz with CM TX2
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 8 2009, 11:52 PM)
aw.. i see the difference now..

mine is 66°C max @ 3.2Ghz.. yrs 58°C max at 3.5Ghz..  blush.gif hazairi 67°C @ 3.65Ghz with CM TX2
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mine is even higher....huhu...almost 70C at 3.3Ghz cry.gif now i'm just running the proc at stock speed.. even at stock speed my temp cn reach 62C when playing games.. doh.gif
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QUOTE(cartack @ Jul 9 2009, 08:35 AM)
mine is even higher....huhu...almost 70C at 3.3Ghz  cry.gif  now i'm just running the proc at stock speed.. even at stock speed my temp cn reach 62C when playing games..  doh.gif
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yr's is E7300 ma.. 70°C at 3.3Ghz is ok wat. provided u r using stock cooler la.. but stock speed at 62 is kinda high.. play during noon hours?
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 8 2009, 11:52 PM)
aw.. i see the difference now..

mine is 66°C max @ 3.2Ghz.. yrs 58°C max at 3.5Ghz..  blush.gif hazairi 67°C @ 3.65Ghz with CM TX2
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His 58C was on Core 2 Quad. U can't compare it with E7400.

Edit: oh, when i read correctly, actually he is using Core 2 Quad's HSF with E7400.. tongue.gif



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guys, me just purchased a e7400 and noticed that the stock vcore is quite high; 1.30v. may i ask what is the stock vcore for this proc?
temp on idle is 45C even with BTVX. something is not right, its even higher than my previous Pentium D 930. pls advise. thx
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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 11 2009, 11:57 PM)
guys, me just purchased a e7400 and noticed that the stock vcore is quite high; 1.30v. may i ask what is the stock vcore for this proc?
temp on idle is 45C even with BTVX. something is not right, its even higher than my previous Pentium D 930. pls advise. thx
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Your idle temp is quite high. My idle temp even when I used the stock HSF was just 42C. Your stock vcore is high too. Stock vcore should be 1.22v. Where did u check the statistic?
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 12 2009, 08:23 AM)
Your idle temp is quite high. My idle temp even when I used the stock HSF was just 42C. Your stock vcore is high too. Stock vcore should be 1.22v. Where did u check the statistic?
bro i resolved the prob dy.
vcore went down to 1.18v after i restarted and enabled C1E in bios, together with speedstep kicks in (speedstep does not work before i enable C1E, which reads 1.30vcore and constant 10.5 multi). smile.gif

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 12 2009, 09:59 AM)
bro i resolved the prob dy.
vcore went down to 1.18v after i restarted and enabled C1E in bios, together with speedstep kicks in (speedstep does not work before i enable C1E, which reads 1.30vcore and constant 10.5 multi). smile.gif
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Good. Now try to OC your CPU. Run Prime95 test and see if it's stable. If got prob in the program, u can slowly increase the voltage..
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 12 2009, 10:02 AM)
Good. Now try to OC your CPU. Run Prime95 test and see if it's stable. If got prob in the program, u can slowly increase the voltage..
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333x10.5 prime 6 hours passed with stock vcore bro. good or bad?
tot of doing 400 fsb but couldnt get the right memory divider. well, this mobo doesnt hv much option on memory divider. i guess wat i paid was wat i get sad.gif
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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 12 2009, 07:40 PM)
333x10.5 prime 6 hours passed with stock vcore bro. good or bad?
tot of doing 400 fsb but couldnt get the right memory divider. well, this mobo doesnt hv much option on memory divider. i guess wat i paid was wat i get sad.gif
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3.5GHz is the same as my E7400 also at stock Vcore and been running stable at full load 24/7 for past couple of days.
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if i wan to go for 3.6Ghz.. u guys think is it better to

343 x10.5

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360 x10

hmm.gif how does a multiplier affect the stability of the proc?
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i would personally opt for higher fsb if the mobo permits it. smile.gif
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Here is mine. smile.gif

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 13 2009, 11:32 PM)
i would personally opt for higher fsb if the mobo permits it. smile.gif
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my mobo is capable of doing 500.. juz see whether i can hit it onot.. smile.gif

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Here is mine. smile.gif

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from yr picture.. looks like yr proc stepping is same as mine.. it shows R0 in cpuz.. but it shows E0 in Everest.. anything to clarify me?

anyway, nice clock u got there.. i might try 400x9 if i get pass 360x10.. waiting for my cooler to arrive..
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Another update from me. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

3825MHz (450 x 8.5) PL 8

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cool bro. 3825mhz on stock vcore too?



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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 14 2009, 03:06 PM)
cool bro. 3825mhz on stock vcore too?
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i think not.. from his screen shot is 1.304 i think..

stock is 1.20V if not mistaken.. rite -pWs-?

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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 14 2009, 03:06 PM)
cool bro. 3825mhz on stock vcore too?
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i think not.. from his screen shot is 1.304 i think..
stock is 1.20V if not mistaken.. rite -pWs-?
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My stock vCore is 1.275 shown in CoreTemp.

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 17 2009, 02:23 AM)
Update:
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Can u show proof that it can pass the Prime95 test in more than 1 hour?
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Here's my E7400@3.675Ghz@1.29v

Passed the 1 hour prime95 test, but temperature quite high.. cry.gif

Slowly i'll OC higher and show the test here..




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Question here..
How much wattage differences if i overclock my E8200 from 2.66Ghz to 3.2Ghz
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Added on July 17, 2009, 3:47 pmI'm in wrong section i guess

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QUOTE(angah_krl @ Jul 17 2009, 03:46 PM)
Question here..
How much wattage differences if i overclock my E8200 from 2.66Ghz to 3.2Ghz
in idle/load without bumping voltage?


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erm yerp..
this is for E7xxx only.. brows.gif
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this is my first time doing overclock. by having assist from mr goldfries and asamkipas, i managed to overclock my e7400 at 3.55 ghz stable. credits to them bcoz 'tak jemu' reply my pm all day long. thanks broS.
using rs xigmatek and gigabyte p35 ds3, for me to get 3.5 ghz stable is like reaching at heaven. im not a real gamers. just want to try out biggrin.gif

testing using software OCCT, stable.
prime 65 at more than 3 hours, stable.
thanks again to goldfries and asamkipas smile.gif

p/s: rs xigmatek allowed d max temp only at 58 degrees. wat a bargain rclxm9.gif

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Here's my 7400 results@3.72Ghz@1.32v

Passed the 1hour Prime95 test with maximum temperature of 73C! cry.gif If i open up my casing, it can drop 4C. Definitely my casing airflow is bad!!


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ur not having a bad AF casing with only 4C drop. i've seen some casings with 10C difference between open and closed casing smile.gif
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QUOTE(VT-Ten @ Jul 18 2009, 11:19 AM)
ur not having a bad AF casing with only 4C drop. i've seen some casings with 10C difference between open and closed casing smile.gif
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haha thanks. I already wondering to buy expensive casing, but then i think not all the time my CPU will load till above 70C. Maybe no need..
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Change to a better cooler. smile.gif

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As requested.
1 hour prime95 test. Small FTT. smile.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 19 2009, 01:00 AM)
As requested.
1 hour prime95 test. Small FTT.  smile.gif

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4Ghz@1.38v
Nice!!
Your max temp only 68C? wow! watercooling?

Anyway, here is my statistic of OC with my 7400 so far:

Speed (Ghz) - Volt-Temp (cel)-Temp (kel)- Speed/Volt
3.49 1.24 65.00 338.00 2.814516129
3.56 1.27 67.00 340.00 2.803149606
3.67 1.29 70.00 343.00 2.84496124
3.72 1.32 73.00 346.00 2.818181818

It seems that the most optimum Speed per volt is at 3.67Ghz.

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Yup. Max temp is 68C
Using air cooling. smile.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 19 2009, 01:14 PM)
Yup. Max temp is 68C
Using air cooling. smile.gif

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Not sure. Bought it 2nd hand. smile.gif
Btw, able to boot in Windows @ 450 x 9.5. But not stable in stress. doh.gif

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Jul 19 2009, 01:35 PM)
Not sure. Bought it 2nd hand. smile.gif
Btw, able to boot in Windows @ 450 x 9.5. But not stable in stress. doh.gif

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Haha, should be careful.. U'll fry your CPU..
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I guess still fine provided the temp & vCore pumped.
But for 4.2GHz, it is not worth the vCore needed already. Might as well using 4.0GHz 24/7. smile.gif

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nice my E7200 with that vcore last time can hit 3.7-3.8..
4ghz jump to 1.6v - lol
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Jul 20 2009, 09:20 AM)
nice my E7200 with that vcore last time can hit 3.7-3.8..
4ghz jump to 1.6v - lol
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hi guys, finally im able to achieve 3.4 ghz on stock voltages...but i cant continue 3.5 ghz on stock, will continue using higher voltages, my vdrop is about 0.03 v wink.gif


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nice temperatures u got there.. juz 34°C on idle.. r u in an air cond room or wat?
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QUOTE(vicdd @ Jul 21 2009, 11:29 AM)
hi guys, finally im able to achieve 3.4 ghz on stock voltages...but i cant continue 3.5 ghz on stock, will continue using higher voltages, my vdrop is about 0.03 v wink.gif
nice result you got with p31 chipset..... brows.gif
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 21 2009, 01:17 PM)
nice temperatures u got there.. juz 34°C on idle.. r u in an air cond room or wat?
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yeap, in ac room, ambient temperature is about 24 degrees..im using OCZ vanquisher cpu cooler mah, its really cool, max load only about 51 degrees on ac also flex.gif


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QUOTE(Alienwarez @ Jul 21 2009, 03:59 PM)
nice result you got with p31 chipset..... brows.gif
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hehe, i know its obsolete already, still keeping it till next time when i upgrade

its still a good mobo for OC provided you update the bios to get better control smile.gif

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QUOTE(vicdd @ Jul 21 2009, 06:10 PM)
yeap, in ac room, ambient temperature is about 24 degrees..im using OCZ vanquisher cpu cooler mah, its really cool, max load only about 51 degrees on ac  also  flex.gif


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hehe, i know its obsolete already, still keeping it till next time when i upgrade

its still a good mobo for OC provided you update the bios to get better control  smile.gif
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no wonder.. cz even with very good coolers, will hardly reach 34 on idle without air cond.. cz we need a minimum temperature difference in order to have a heat transfer (study too much heat exchanging.. tongue.gif)

with the ambient temperature at malaysia, hardly reach 34 unless u stay at genting or cameron lo.. tat's y i suspect u use ac..

anyway, good OC u hav there.. wink.gif
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My idle temperature never reached below 42 C. My room got no aircon. Just using air cooling to cool my body.. tongue.gif
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lol.. before OC i can idle at 38/37°C.. now after OC (stock cooler) idle min 40/38°C.. but on load will be different..

stil waiting my 3rd party cooler to arrive.. biggrin.gif

anyway, how u guys remove the stock thermal paste? just use a ruler to scrap it out?
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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 21 2009, 07:01 PM)
lol.. before OC i can idle at 38/37°C.. now after OC (stock cooler) idle min 40/38°C.. but on load will be different..

stil waiting my 3rd party cooler to arrive.. biggrin.gif

anyway, how u guys remove the stock thermal paste? just use a ruler to scrap it out?
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i use a soft tissue paper..
seems work just fine for me..
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 21 2009, 06:46 PM)
My idle temperature never reached below 42 C. My room got no aircon. Just using air cooling to cool my body.. tongue.gif
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Are you using 1 [ special Air cooling just cool your CPU ? ] ? Does it work ? Cooling down the temperature.
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QUOTE(twinkles @ Jul 21 2009, 07:16 PM)
Are you using 1 [ special Air cooling just cool your CPU ? ] ? Does it work ? Cooling down the temperature.
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Nope. Just a normal cheap heatsink. CoolerMaster TX2.
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QUOTE(twinkles @ Jul 21 2009, 07:16 PM)
Are you using 1 [ special Air cooling just cool your CPU ? ] ? Does it work ? Cooling down the temperature.
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depends on what brand la, cap ayam brand will not get you anywhere, (rather just keep using stock cooler) where as a good one really cools down your cpu overclocked smile.gif

if you are planning to overclock, aftermarket cooler is the best bet, you dont want your cpu to fry of rite? wink.gif


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QUOTE(farscope @ Jul 21 2009, 06:30 PM)
no wonder.. cz even with very good coolers, will hardly reach 34 on idle without air cond.. cz we need a minimum temperature difference in order to have a heat transfer (study too much heat exchanging.. tongue.gif)

with the ambient temperature at malaysia, hardly reach 34 unless u stay at genting or cameron lo.. tat's y i suspect u use ac..

anyway, good OC u hav there.. wink.gif
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haha, yeap, in Malaysia, ambient temp is 39-40 degrees, impossible for the cpu to be 34 degrees in idle mode lo hehe

im still trying to push to 3.5 ghz with stock voltage, but still no avail..now trying to adjust lower multiplier with higher bus speed smile.gif

will keep you guys updated wink.gif

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QUOTE(vicdd @ Jul 22 2009, 12:03 AM)
depends on what brand la, cap ayam brand will not get you anywhere, (rather just keep using stock cooler) where as a good one really cools down your cpu overclocked smile.gif

if you are planning to overclock, aftermarket cooler is the best bet, you dont want your cpu to fry of rite? wink.gif


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haha, yeap, in Malaysia, ambient temp is 39-40 degrees, impossible for the cpu to be 34 degrees in idle mode lo hehe

im still trying to push to 3.5 ghz with stock voltage, but still no avail..now trying to adjust lower multiplier with higher bus speed smile.gif

will keep you guys updated wink.gif
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OK, good luck bro.. i m still waiting for my cooler.. now stopped at 3.2Ghz with stock cooler n voltage..

mine is an E7400 btw..
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Hey guys, I'm a E7400 user

just bought a 2nd hand xigmatek RC with mounting kit, still waiting for tx-2 thermal grease then will start my 1st ever OC project !

Got a nub questions, I just using normal 2x 1GB kingston 800mhz ram on Gigabtye G41m-ES2L mobo.

Issit better to OC it to 333x 10.5 or 400x 9 ? And do I need high performance RAM for OC-ing?

Currenty in cpu-z it shows I'm using 1.2v and running on 266mhzx10.5.

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Issit better to OC it to 333x 10.5 or 400x 9 ?
400 x 9 better. smile.gif

Do I need high performance RAM for OC-ing?
Not necessary.

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what comparison is that.. different speed..
better 400 x 10 huhu.. or 400 x 9.5 atleast..
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how the higher can reach for E7200 if i oc this proc?
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QUOTE(RayManZ @ Jul 29 2009, 01:20 PM)
Hey guys, I'm a E7400 user

just bought a 2nd hand xigmatek RC with mounting kit, still waiting for tx-2 thermal grease then will start my 1st ever OC project !

Got a nub questions, I just using normal 2x 1GB kingston 800mhz ram on Gigabtye G41m-ES2L mobo.

Issit better to OC it to 333x 10.5 or  400x 9 ? And do I need high performance RAM for OC-ing?

Currenty in cpu-z it shows I'm using 1.2v and running on 266mhzx10.5.
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izit a xigmatek RS?? u wrote RC.. i oso having tat cooler but not yet install to my E7400.. no time la.. will use the stock thermal paste n see how much it can go.. nod.gif

400x9 is better..
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thanks for the advice ! i'll try 400x9 then =)

yeah its xigmatek RS not RC ...i guess i typed RC because i played restaurant city in facebook some time ago =.= lol


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what comparison is that.. different speed..
better 400 x 10 huhu.. or 400 x 9.5 atleast..
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I should add which speed is more stable for 24/7 oc haha.

thats why got 2 different speed .

333 would be a 4:5 mem divider, heard that its slower and unstable..
but i nub and not sure la.

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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Jul 29 2009, 10:08 PM)
how the higher can reach for E7200 if i oc this proc?
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highest i got was 425fsb.

clock speed total was like 8.5x425 but i run at 9x400 most of the time.


Added on July 30, 2009, 5:16 amoh btw i +0.25 on vcore straight. run fanless. works fine. running F@H with GTX295 (damn hot) and the fella still idles at 6x400 with around 44c.

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for E7200
fsb depends on mobo.. i can push until 520fsb..
but last time set 500 x 7.5.. watch the temp.. especially using high voltage..
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i hope my DFI LP UT P35 T2R can push this proc until highest one...
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here my result for my E7200

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nice voltage there..
can push more with lower voltage?
i got the hard time if to surpass 3.8ghz with low voltage..
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if i push to 425FSB...occt will failed..i think need more juice la...

this is highest i can do..with 1.26v
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that's very good already!

my E7200 is far from being as good as yours. i could reach FSB ceiling of 425mhz.

but i can't use 9x425, i use 8.5x425, which is about 3.6ghz. that also i have to pump vcore to 1.3x to 1.4x range.
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my E73 server just phailed today sad.gif
either PSU or mobo
cpu running ok, temporary moved hdd to other machine.
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darn, i just realize it's coming to 1 year since i bought the E7200.

my gaming rig is 1 year old! flex.gif !!!!

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yea, mine just passed the 1 year too (July '08) and mobo gone.
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i have a problem here plz help...

let say i can oc my e7400 to 3.25GHz with 8600gt GC card... But when i change the GC into any OC version Card...... then my proc cant oc to 3.25GHX anymore..... only can go a bit high from default only..... is the pci-e frequency problem?
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What card? What PSU?

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PSu is vantec 600 modulator....
i try manli 9600oc and gts250oc also same.....

the problem will be no display when login window xp...

and if windows 7 will show the GC driver not compatible with card...

i try use e2160 oc more than 2.0GHZ then will got this problem... and if lower than 2.0ghz then ok

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Any PCI-E 6 pins connector?
Check your PSU power rails.

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QUOTE(sky5191 @ Aug 4 2009, 01:19 PM)
i have a problem here plz help...

let say i can oc my e7400 to 3.25GHz with 8600gt GC card... But when i change the GC into any OC version Card...... then my proc cant oc to 3.25GHX anymore..... only can go a bit high from default only..... is the pci-e frequency problem?
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Maybe not enuff power?
Did u really connect the power to your GC?
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finally after several testing..i got reach 4.0GHz (i think it's stable and i do OCCT only 23 minute ) for my E7200 with vcore 1.28v


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Bro, do Prime95 o LinX better IMO. icon_rolleyes.gif

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what? 1.28v that's totally nice..
which mobo is that..

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 8 2009, 02:23 PM)
Bro, do Prime95 o LinX better IMO. icon_rolleyes.gif

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what? 1.28v that's totally nice..
which mobo is that..
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here we go..Prime95 as request by bro -pWs-

seem it's stable at 1.32v sad.gif



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But still nice result there. Good job. thumbup.gif

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yes² very the good biggrin.gif
share other setting also..
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what do you mean share other setting boss?hehehehe
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such as.. ht nb voltage etc..
mostly bios settings..
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hehehe..later i will take the picture in my bios...


Added on August 9, 2009, 4:56 pmthis is my bios setup as request by bro 8tvt

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what the temp reading for your e7200 at 4Ghz?

what cooling setup you using?
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using Xigmatek Thor Hammer as a cooler

idle = 38'c
load = 74'c laugh.gif

right know still do some testing with vcore 1.296v
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oh thanks for the details..
err i do notice the temp raise.. if the speed too high even though the voltage not high..

on my noctua also 4ghz ~70+C but with 1.5+v
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i dont know bro..that why i'm still looking the answer...now i'm passed the prime95 4GHz@1.296v smile.gif ..i dont know it nice or not...

for the temp...i'm using CCF & Thor Hammer..it's still same result..max load 74'C and more...hahahaha

later i post the result again
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i passed without error Prime95 4.0GHz@1.296v

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why dint try 1:1 ratio?
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To gain more ram speed. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

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currently i'm using 12:10 = 333/800

but how to make it 1:1 ratio?
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Change the divider.
FSB:RAM = 400:800 o any equivalent to that. smile.gif

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ooo..ok boss..will try it later...


Added on August 10, 2009, 9:36 pmi didn't see that boss..

just got

200/667
200/800
200/1066
266/667
266/800
266/1066
333/667
333/800
333/1066

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should be 333/667 for you to get 1:1 hmm.gif

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ok will try it again today...
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Very nice voltage there..my proc need 1.45 to stand hourS of prime95. To bro nidzamputra, try stress with prime for 1 night or more.
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i will stress 1 night after i get Cool IT Domino A.L.C
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Cool IT Domino A.L.C? is it worth it? It seem too small..i think the performance just on par with good aircooler. what cooler u're using now bro?
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i juz installed xiggy RS to my E7400 yday..

but my idle temperature for
Core #1 is 40°C n never drop below tat..
Core #2 drop to around 30~33°C..

currently 3.2Ghz at max load 58°C
is that normal or i din seat my HSF properly?
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 19 2009, 01:42 PM)
i juz installed xiggy RS to my E7400 yday..

but my idle temperature for
Core #1 is 40°C n never drop below tat..
Core #2 drop to around 30~33°C..

currently 3.2Ghz at max load 58°C
is that normal or i din seat my HSF properly?
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I think your core 1 temperature sensor is stuck laugh.gif
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my E5200 core 1 temperature also stuck.. sweat.gif
never go below than 38, while my core 0 minimum can beyond 29~30

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Aug 19 2009, 03:17 PM)
I think your core 1 temperature sensor is stuck laugh.gif
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but before tis when using stock cooler.. it shows min 38 or 39°C.. now stuck at 40°C pulak..

i scare i din seat my HSF properly.. but load test temperature seems nice..
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Using E7400 400 x 9 @???voltage (still in the process of finding the right stable volts)

Regarding Prime95, when using the torture test, which one should I choose to find the right stability for the cpu's voltage?:

1. Small FTT's
2. In-place Large FTT's
3. Blend

I'm pretty bump coz I got errors when running 'Blend' up to 1.42v, I'm informed that 1.3625v is recommended as maximum increments, and 1.4v+ is really pushing it. Is it just that my chip is bad that i gotta push above 1.45v+ to be stable?

In 'small FTT's' i havent encounter any error so far, is 'small FFt's' the one I should be running?

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just run all the test to make sure ur system r rock stable, better if u run it 24hours
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QUOTE(dun_panic @ Aug 26 2009, 12:44 AM)
just run all the test to make sure ur system r rock stable, better if u run it 24hours
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How do you know when u have enough voltage or too much voltage? at the moment I'm within 1.34v-1.3625v@ 3.6ghz, I hope that's adequate enough. Do you guys know whats the territory (in terms of voltage) for 4.0ghz for E7400? Hope its doesn't have to reach up to 1.41v...I've read somewhere some guy rev up his e7400 up to 1.5v+ @4.0ghz, that's just plain ridiculous...
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not ridiculous.. can boot on 4ghz between stable..is different..
and not all proc are same..
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 24 2009, 04:02 AM)
Using E7400 400 x 9 @???voltage (still in the process of finding the right stable volts)

Regarding Prime95, when using the torture test, which one should I choose to find the right stability for the cpu's voltage?:

1. Small FTT's
2. In-place Large FTT's
3. Blend

I'm pretty bump coz I got errors when running 'Blend' up to 1.42v, I'm informed that 1.3625v is recommended as maximum increments, and 1.4v+ is really pushing it. Is it just that my chip is bad that i gotta push above 1.45v+ to be stable?

In 'small FTT's' i havent encounter any error so far, is 'small FFt's' the one I should be running?

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I have same question.....which one to choose
1. Small FTT's
2. In-place Large FTT's
3. Blend

Any otai here can answer ? biggrin.gif

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use blend - cpu & ram stressed
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 27 2009, 09:05 AM)
not ridiculous.. can boot on 4ghz between stable..is different..
and not all proc are same..
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Even though its a RM400 chip doesn't mean we should blow it up. rclxms.gif
Different processors are unique which makes OC'ing fun i guess.
I think my chip aint that bad coz I dont need to juiced it up to 1.45v+ to get stable @ 4.0ghz. For now...

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than it's normal for E7400..
my E7200 1.4v stable @ 3.8ghz
4ghz need 1.6v..
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mine E7200 @4.0ghz need 1.36v
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 27 2009, 07:05 PM)
mine E7200 @4.0ghz need 1.36v
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maybe mine old crappy one.. haha..
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hehehehe

maybe i'm lucky to get this gem..hehehe
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QUOTE(kayQay @ Aug 27 2009, 11:18 AM)
I have same question.....which one to choose
1. Small FTT's
2. In-place Large FTT's
3. Blend

Any otai here can answer ? biggrin.gif
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In 3 days of hard research on google, sweat.gif I learn that 'Blend' is the more suitable candidate for trying to find the stability in your system becoz its more practical. This is bcoz 'Blend' (stressed both cpu and ram) works how PC should work, by applying both usage of CPU and RAM simultaneously.

Small FFT's is a more theoretical approach if u want to know your proc more closely/intimately. (used a lot in OC contests)

Large FFT's is also theoratical if u wanna know the maximum level your whole system can endure, which stressed mostly everything in your system like PSU, CPU, RAM, capacitors of the mobo, etc. Beware, this one heats the pc like hell, my cpu temp reached up to 75c+ on load even though i have aftermarket cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme. Large FFT's is the favourite of hardware manufactures to test their products to the max.

hope anyone else can verify me on this... nod.gif


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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 27 2009, 08:20 PM)
In 3 days of hard research on google,  sweat.gif I learn that 'Blend' is the more suitable candidate for trying to find the stability in your system becoz its more practical. This is bcoz 'Blend' (stressed both cpu and ram) works how PC should work, by applying both usage of CPU and RAM simultaneously.

Small FFT's is a more theoretical approach if u want to know your proc more closely/intimately. (used a lot in OC contests)

Large FFT's is also theoratical if u wanna know the maximum level your whole system can endure, which stressed mostly everything in your system like PSU, CPU, RAM, capacitors of the mobo, etc. Beware, this one heats the pc like hell, my cpu temp reached up to 75c+ on load even though i have aftermarket cooler: Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme. Large FFT's is the favourite of hardware manufactures to test their products to the max.

hope anyone else can verify me on this... nod.gif
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how does this compare to the simple LinX?
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 12:21 AM)
how does this compare to the simple LinX?
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LynX measures the CPU performance in Gflops. (It's something i havent heard of apart from the more familiar Lucas-Lehmer test.)
This pretty popular among russian overclockers.
LynX stressed the cpu way more than Orthos and Prime95.
It is claimed that LnyX saves more time bcoz 1 hour of LynX stressed test is equivalent to 6 hours of stressed test performed by prime95.
Bcoz of this, it is known that LynX raised up more higher temps than u get when running 'Large FTT's' on prime95. e.g 10c-15c more!
So u have to be careful when leaving u'r PC unattended when running this software.
(Large FTT's on prime95 already makes my cpu really hot, i will expect this software to raise my cpu temps up to 80c, even with my Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme.) rclxub.gif

Here's a thread on Lynx from the original creator:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670

I'm gonna try this 'linpack interface' soon...


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i got 90C..
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:33 AM)
LynX measures the CPU performance in Gflops. (It's something i havent heard of apart from the more familiar Lucas-Lehmer test.)
This pretty popular among russian overclockers.
LynX stressed the cpu way more than Orthos and Prime95.
It is claimed that LnyX saves more time bcoz 1 hour of LynX stressed test is equivalent to 6 hours of stressed test performed by prime95.
Bcoz of this, it is known that LynX raised up more higher temps than u get when running 'Large FTT's' on prime95. e.g 10c-15c more!
So u have to be careful when leaving u'r PC unattended when running this software.
(Large FTT's on prime95 already makes my cpu really hot, i will expect this software to raise my cpu temps up to 80c, even with my Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme.)  rclxub.gif

Here's a thread on Lynx from the original creator:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=201670

I'm gonna try this 'linpack interface' soon...
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wow.. is it? not aware of tat.. I din use prime95 cz i noe its time consuming and straight using LinX..

I stress my E7400 @3.2Ghz for about half an hour and hit the max temperature of 58°C at night..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 10:55 AM)
wow.. is it? not aware of tat.. I din use prime95 cz i noe its time consuming and straight using LinX..

I stress my E7400 @3.2Ghz for about half an hour and hit the max temperature of 58°C at night..
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Maybe those people who got their temps very high because:
1. using stock cooler.
2: OC more than 3.6ghz on C2D
3. OC'ing Quad proc up to 3.4ghz+
4. Set their Vcore more than 1.45v+ (Increase in temp relevantly due to increase in voltage/vcore.)

Your e7400@3.2ghz doesn't get really hot bcoz you still can use stock vcore @ 3.2ghz. My E7400 does.
It's when u OC up to 3.6ghz+ is where u'r in business. nod.gif
I used set my vcore on 'AUTO' when i was still OC'ing @ 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) a month ago.
(now maintain around 1.3625v @ 3.6ghz~3.8ghz, can topup to 4.0ghz+ if i want, but somehow i luv my proc too much to push it that high)

Have you encounter any bugs/problem in LynX? Unless u have the latest version: LinX 0.6.2.1
(I will download LinX soon to try it out later)

Nywayz, there's a thread on LYN about LinX:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/892376
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 06:58 PM)
Maybe those people who got their temps very high because:
1. using stock cooler.
2: OC more than 3.6ghz on C2D
3. OC'ing Quad proc up to 3.4ghz+
4. Set their Vcore more than 1.45v+ (Increase in temp relevantly due to increase in voltage/vcore.)

Your e7400@3.2ghz doesn't get really hot bcoz you still can use stock vcore @ 3.2ghz. My E7400 does.
It's when u OC up to 3.6ghz+ is where u'r in business. nod.gif 
I used set my vcore on 'AUTO' when i was still OC'ing @ 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) a month ago.
(now maintain around 1.3625v @ 3.6ghz~3.8ghz, can topup to 4.0ghz+ if i want, but somehow i luv my proc too much to push it that high)

Have you encounter any bugs/problem in LynX? Unless u have the latest version: LinX 0.6.2.1
(I will download LinX soon to try it out later)

Nywayz, there's a thread on LYN about LinX:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/892376
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yup.. i OC to 3.2Ghz and stop there last time bcz i was still using stock cooler.. and yes @ stock Vcore..

now i'm planning to push it to 3.6Ghz when i'm free.. not going for 4.0Ghz anyway..

can share yr settings for 3.6Ghz?

i just downloaded 0.6.2 today and will giv it a try later tonite..
I'm using 0.5.9 before this and never encounter any bugs so far.. (or i din notice it sweat.gif )
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 28 2009, 09:13 AM)
i got 90C..
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90c rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
Buying a proc at the shop really like playing blackjack or lottery,
its all starts when the salesperson picks up your proc randomly among other processors on the shelf.
It seems in this game of "processor lottery", u looked unlucky bro...
Statistically-wise, some say the probability to get the 'unlucky' chip from Intel is less than 2/10.
I read some people(usually highly superstitious geeks) up north in mainland China will choose a proc by their serial number,
apparently they want the s/n which has a lot of '8's in it to avoid getting the 'unlucky' chip. You tell me...
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mine also using linx 0.6.2 today to stress my E7200 @4.0ghz 1.32v

hahaha..the result temp so high for both core...reach 92'C then auto shutdown...using thor's hammer cooler...


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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 07:18 PM)
90c rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
Buying a proc at the shop really like playing blackjack or lottery,
its all starts when the salesperson picks up your proc randomly among other processors on the shelf.
It seems in this game of "processor lottery", u looked unlucky bro...
Statistically-wise, some say the probability to get the 'unlucky' chip from Intel is less than 2/10.
I read some people(usually highly superstitious geeks) up north in mainland China will choose a proc by their serial number,
apparently they want the s/n which has a lot of '8's in it to avoid getting the 'unlucky' chip. You tell me...
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got such thing? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif then they will avoid 4 4 4 or else their proc might die.. tongue.gif

QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 07:21 PM)
mine also using linx 0.6.2 today to stress my E7200 @4.0ghz 1.32v

hahaha..the result temp so high for both core...reach 92'C then auto shutdown...using thor's hammer cooler...
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wow.. tat's insane.. what's the temperature before using LinX? how long u stress yr proc?
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4ghz 90C while stressing using linX is normal..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 07:04 PM)
yup.. i OC to 3.2Ghz and stop there last time bcz i was still using stock cooler.. and yes @ stock Vcore..

now i'm planning to push it to 3.6Ghz when i'm free.. not going for 4.0Ghz anyway..

can share yr settings for 3.6Ghz?

i just downloaded 0.6.2 today and will giv it a try later tonite..
I'm using 0.5.9 before this and never encounter any bugs so far.. (or i din notice it  sweat.gif )
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Yes, @ 3.6ghz:
400 x 9 fsb; 1.336v~1.344v
IDLE : core0 = 31c core1 = 34c
LOAD: core0 = about 60c core1 = about 58c
No OC on Dram bcoz the increase is minor in terms of performance.
(but sometimes I increase my 800mhz by 20mhz and 400fsb by 10 to keep that 1:1 ratio, e.g 410 x 8.5 fsb @820mhz DDR2 =3.485ghz,
fairly stable depends on the mobo and cpu)


Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech

And of course I got aftermarket cooler: AC Freezer Xtreme

I recommend that 1.336v~1.344 is enough for 3.6ghz on a E7400 chip. If not, then just increase OR decrease in increments.
(Make sure it's 1.336v-1344v in CPU-Z, in BIOS u might need to set the vcore slightly above 1.336v)
Remember this is only my opinion based on my e7400. I hope your E7400 is not that different.

Addtional info:
@3.8ghz
400 x 9.5 fsb; 1.352v~1.3625v

@4ghz
400x10 fsb; 1.3600v ~ 1.3625v (i try not to go above 1.3625v since its not recommended by Intel when OC on 45nm chips)
Even at 1.3625v@4.0ghz its seems quite stable

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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 28 2009, 07:27 PM)
wow.. tat's insane.. what's the temperature before using LinX? how long u stress yr proc?
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stress about 5 minute..then auto shutdown...before stress idle 40'C

normally i'm using Prime95 to stress my proc...maximum 75'C
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 08:13 PM)
stress about 5 minute..then auto shutdown...before stress idle 40'C

normally i'm using Prime95 to stress my proc...maximum 75'C
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The Thor's Hammer is Xiggy's finest cooler, and u got auto shutdown from reaching TJ max?!!
Man I start to think LinX is somewhat of a monster.. shocking.gif

Probably Linx is equivalent to Crysis in comparison to gaming...in the form of cpu stress test hmm.gif
maybe i gotta plan for watercooling for this test brows.gif
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:48 PM)
The Thor's Hammer is Xiggy's finest cooler, and u got auto shutdown from reaching TJ max?!!
Man I start to think LinX is somewhat of a monster.. shocking.gif

Probably Linx is equivalent to Crysis in comparison to gaming...in the form of cpu stress test hmm.gif
maybe i gotta plan for watercooling for this test  brows.gif
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maybe my mobo bios setting...i enabled auto shutdown when cpu reach 90'C in bios..by default it's set 85'C

actually i wanna to try 2nd hand CoolIT Domino ALC...but no luck because the seller lost backplate for 775 socket... cry.gif

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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 28 2009, 08:55 PM)
maybe my mobo bios setting...i enabled auto shutdown when cpu reach 90'C in bios..by default it's set 85'C

actually i wanna to try 2nd hand CoolIT Domino ALC...but no luck because the seller lost backplate for 775 socket... cry.gif
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That CoolIT is awesome bcoz u place the entire system inside your casing, compare to other watercooling that u have to placed the reservoir outside the case. Plus it has lcd display, a bonus when u have see-through casing side panel. thumbup.gif

For those who dont know the cooler, check this out:

http://techgage.com/article/coolit_domino_alc_cpu_cooler/1
http://techgage.com/article/coolit_domino_alc_cpu_cooler/2

But one thing for sure this item is rare in M'sia, i dont know where they sell it here, sad.gif
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post Aug 29 2009, 12:40 AM

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ModernoPC got stock if im corect

btw how about Corsair H50 ?
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 PM)
Yes, @ 3.6ghz:
400 x 9 fsb; 1.336v~1.344v
IDLE : core0 = 31c            core1 = 34c
LOAD: core0 = about 60c  core1 =  about 58c   
No OC on Dram bcoz the increase is minor in terms of performance.
(but sometimes I increase my 800mhz by 20mhz and 400fsb by 10 to keep that 1:1 ratio, e.g 410 x 8.5 fsb @820mhz DDR2 =3.485ghz,
fairly stable depends on the mobo and cpu) 


Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, CPU TM function, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech

And of course I got aftermarket cooler: AC Freezer Xtreme

I recommend that 1.336v~1.344 is enough for 3.6ghz on a E7400 chip. If not, then just increase OR decrease in increments.
(Make sure it's 1.336v-1344v in CPU-Z, in BIOS u might need to set the vcore slightly above 1.336v)
Remember this is only my opinion based on my e7400. I hope your E7400 is not that different. 

Addtional info:
@3.8ghz
400 x 9.5 fsb; 1.352v~1.3625v

@4ghz
400x10 fsb; 1.3600v ~ 1.3625v (i try not to go above 1.3625v since its not recommended by Intel when OC on 45nm chips)
Even at 1.3625v@4.0ghz its seems quite stable
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QUOTE(kiLLua the babap @ Aug 29 2009, 12:40 AM)
ModernoPC got stock if im corect

btw how about Corsair H50 ?
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For the same price as CoolIT, (in the US) the Corsairs outperformed the CoolIT
in terms of 'self contain watercooling system' from most reviews i've read.
The Corsair probably dedicate its function 100% on cooling, and the CoolIT 65% on cooling; 35% on the temp sensors and lcd displays and looks..
I like the CoolIT but i'll go for the Corsair bcoz results matters even though it look industrious and vulgar.
But then again, where to buy these products in KL? i havent seen any of them in Low Yat Plaza... sad.gif


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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 28 2009, 08:11 PM)
Make sure u disable most of these settings when OC'ing the cpu:
Intel® Virtualization tech, CPU TM function, C1E, and more importantly disable Intel SpeedStep ™ tech
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Don't ever2 disable CPU TM function... unless you want to fry your procs...
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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Aug 29 2009, 02:31 AM)
Don't ever2 disable CPU TM function... unless you want to fry your procs...
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I almost 4got what's its for. sweat.gif (cpu overheating protection function)
But it's only enable under the setting of:
1. Frequency>= 3.6Ghz FSB800
2. Frequency>= 2.8Ghz FSB533
But as a safety net, i should have enable it doh.gif

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juz done OC to 3.5Ghz

333x10.5, Vcore set to auto, CPU-z shown 1.280V

under this warm morning condition, LinX stress test completed with no errors for 20 rounds..

max temperature hitting 73°C with average temperature of 71°C.. Using xigmatek Red Scorpion only..

dividers set to 5:6 to get 333:400..

anything else to set, mayb to lower down Vcore? or go ahead to 400x9?
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your E7400 i think easily to reach 4.0ghz

try set manual your vcore then pump fsb to 425*9.5


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i think 4.0Ghz will be too much heat for my RS to handle.. i'm happy to stay it at 3.6Ghz if my temperature does not exceed 70°C

btw, using 360x10 and 400x9 will have any difference in temperature?

i think higher FSB = higher voltage = higher temps rite? no? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:13 pmhave a question here..

i set my Vcore to manual and set it to 1.26V but after i boot up, cpu-z onli shows 1.232V.. y huh? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:54 pmlatest setting in bios i pump it to 1.28725V cz not stable in low voltage..

but cpu-z still show voltage reading between 1.216V~1.232V rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 29 2009, 01:51 AM)
For the same price as CoolIT, (in the US) the Corsairs outperformed the CoolIT
in terms of 'self contain watercooling system' from most reviews i've read.
The Corsair probably dedicate its function 100% on cooling, and the CoolIT 65% on cooling; 35% on the temp sensors and lcd displays and looks..
I like the CoolIT but i'll go for the Corsair bcoz results matters even though it look industrious and vulgar.
But then again, where to buy these products in KL? i havent seen any of them in Low Yat Plaza... sad.gif
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currently running stable for 333x10.5 about 30minutes LinX stressing.. still going on..

Bios Vcore: 1.28750V
cpu-z Vcore: 1.216V~1.248V

max temperature reached in current weather condition: 70°C
average temperature: 66°C

mobo: Gigabyte EP45-UD3L


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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 29 2009, 01:26 PM)
i think 4.0Ghz will be too much heat for my RS to handle.. i'm happy to stay it at 3.6Ghz if my temperature does not exceed 70°C

btw, using 360x10 and 400x9 will have any difference in temperature?

i think higher FSB = higher voltage = higher temps rite? no? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:13 pmhave a question here..

i set my Vcore to manual and set it to 1.26V but after i boot up, cpu-z onli shows 1.232V.. y huh? hmm.gif


Added on August 29, 2009, 2:54 pmlatest setting in bios i pump it to 1.28725V cz not stable in low voltage..

but cpu-z still show voltage reading between 1.216V~1.232V  rclxub.gif
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I use to OC'ed my chip to 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) when i was using my old 667mhz DDR2 to obtain that 1:1 ratio.
I set my vcore to 'AUTO' and running stable.

360x10 and 400x9?
If u'r concerned about temps u should opt for the 360fsb, but if u have DDR2800mhz and u want that 1:1 ratio, u opt for 400fsb.

i think higher FSB = higher voltage = higher temps rite? no?

That's why Intel created Core 2 Extreme procs, they have multipliers unlocked up to 14,
this way you can maintain a low~mid range FSB but still attain high Ghz, meaning normal temps but high performance/ghz.

i set my Vcore to manual and set it to 1.26V but after i boot up, cpu-z onli shows 1.232V.. y huh?
It's 'v droop'. (It's an Intel specification designed to protect your CPU from overshooting voltage), i think u should trust your BIOS nod.gif

latest setting in bios i pump it to 1.28725V cz not stable in low voltage..but cpu-z still show voltage reading between 1.216V~1.232V

Man that some big ass v droop! if u Google around, there's alot of threads about this issue. usually corcerned with enable/disable LLC. Well I'm not familiar with EP45-UD3L.... sweat.gif

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Mine E7300@ stock speed.

Can OC anytime but need to make sure got extra money just in case current system kaput tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Aug 29 2009, 07:43 PM)
Mine E7300@ stock speed.

Can OC anytime but need to make sure got extra money just in case current system kaput  tongue.gif
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usually alot of peeps blatantly take risks without thinking the consequences if the proc failed from OC'ing...maybe its the testosterone...maybe its just the lifestyle of OC'ers,...maybe its just the rush of not blowing the hell out u'r processors!...such mystery it is.
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 29 2009, 07:31 PM)
I use to OC'ed my chip to 3.5ghz (334 x 10.5) when i was using my old 667mhz DDR2 to obtain that 1:1 ratio.
I set my vcore to 'AUTO' and running stable.

360x10 and 400x9?
If u'r concerned about temps u should opt for the 360fsb, but if u have DDR2800mhz and u want that 1:1 ratio, u opt for 400fsb.

i think higher FSB = higher voltage = higher temps rite? no?

That's why Intel created Core 2 Extreme procs, they have multipliers unlocked up to 14,
this way you can maintain a low~mid range FSB but still attain high Ghz, meaning normal temps but high performance/ghz.

i set my Vcore to manual and set it to 1.26V but after i boot up, cpu-z onli shows 1.232V.. y huh? 
It's 'v droop'. (It's an Intel specification designed to protect your CPU from overshooting voltage), i think u should trust your BIOS nod.gif

latest setting in bios i pump it to 1.28725V cz not stable in low voltage..but cpu-z still show voltage reading between 1.216V~1.232V

Man that some big ass v droop! if u Google around, there's alot of threads about this issue. usually corcerned with enable/disable LLC. Well I'm not familiar with EP45-UD3L.... sweat.gif
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yup.. thx for the info anyway..

the drop is big, tat's y it concerns me.. sweat.gif

in BIOS i set it as 1.28725V because that's the voltage i can pass LinX without encounter errors.. but cpu-z shows voltage between 1.215V~1.248V..

however, the temperature drop about 5°C compare to the time when i use "Auto"

With Auto Vcore, i got 1.28V~1.31V in cpu-z.. not sure bout BIOS cz i din check it..

but even thou i set 1.28725V in BIOS, when i check the voltage reading in bios, it shows about 1.26+V hmm.gif any idea?


Added on August 29, 2009, 8:20 pmah, talking bout LLC, i remember mine was disabled.. should i enable it?

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nice explanation bro...

btw mine vdroop not so much...for my Maximus II Formula got LLC option pair with E8400 E0...but for DFI LP UT P35-T2RS pair with E7200 dont have this option...
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if LLC is on, vdroop wont be much..

i had my LLC off.. so my Vdroop is alot..

still thinking should i enable LLC to lower down my bios Vcore or just stay it with LLC off..
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mine let's it auto for M2F...
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OC Trial #1: 29/08/09 - 30/08/09
E7400 2.8ghz; 400 x 9.5 = 3.8Ghz @ 1.360v

Run time on prime95: 7 hours

Rig:
E7400 with Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme
Asus P5QL-PRO
800mhz DDR2 Kingston HyperX
FSP EPSILON 80Plus 600w
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My hypothesis is that I might have overkill in terms of vcore resulting in high max.temp.
(but the max temp of 70c was just a temporary instant spike; on average the temps is about 60c)
Therefore for 'OC Trial #2' I will dramatically decrease the vcore in the range of: 1.32v< x <1.344v,
if sucess, i will continue decrease the vcore to point of failure in my following trials.

Something I find about fine tuning vcore is that, its easy to just randomly use high vcore and settled with it than to find the lowest possible vcore that the procs can be stable on.
(In the 21st century its all about low power consumption, reliable and energy savings @ reasonable performance, thumbup.gif like a Toyota Prius to a Lotus Hybrid or a Lexus GS 450h Hybrid)
I'll post my result for 'OC Trial #2' the next time i'm free.



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OC TRIAL #2 30/08/09

E7400 400 x 9.5 = 3.8Ghz @ 1.30v(BIOS) 1.296v(CPU-Z)

Run time on LinX 0.6.2: 28m 49s

Rig:
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This time I felt pretty ambitious and drop significantly from my previous vcore(1.362v) to 1.30v. Suprisingly, no errors. thumbup.gif
The max temp is predictably high when running LinX, but what add insult to injuries is that I'm running thin out of thermal paste,
probably might improve by deducting at least up to 5c to my max temp if i get new paste applied. (anyone can recommend any good thermal paste??)
I didn't run 'OC TRIAL #1' with LinX because my max temp nearly reached 90c @ 13625v,
hence opted me to choose to run a much slower(boring) rclxub.gif stress test, prime95.

I will run 'OC TRIAL #3' with a more ambitious vcore setting; 1.28v < x < 1.292v @3.8ghz
I have the feeling I'm getting closer to fine-tuning it to the closest minimum stable vcore laugh.gif

I can hear "4ghz" is calling me to its domain. I want to join the exclusive 4ghz+ club BUT...lets take care of business one at a time.
I will post my next OC trial soon biggrin.gif

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nice OC there.. i might try follow yr settings n see how it goes.. laugh.gif

anyway, did u enable LLC?


Added on August 30, 2009, 12:11 pmTP.. u can try tuniq tx-2 pr tx-3.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 30 2009, 11:56 AM)
nice OC there.. i might try follow yr settings n see how it goes.. laugh.gif

anyway, did u enable LLC?


Added on August 30, 2009, 12:11 pmTP.. u can try tuniq tx-2 pr tx-3.. thumbup.gif
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I have the LLC (Load line calibration) Enable bcoz its improves v droop directly. If disabled, it will follow Intel specs, and knowing Intel® is paranoid when people want to OC, (due to warranty breach and lawsuit) they will usually have their settings with very big gaps in v droop to overprotect the chip. If u still have problems with this huge v droop dilemma, i guess u might want to start a new thread to isolate this matter, probably a lot of people might have the same problem as you. The worst case scenario about irregular v droops is that it might involve manipulating BIOS, etc. I'm not a pro with this kinda things sweat.gif

tq for the TP recommendation, I hope they got the stuff in L.Y.Plaza, i used to use Xigmatek's TP, they somehow become solid now, not a good TP. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 30 2009, 11:49 PM)
I have the LLC (Load line calibration) Enable bcoz its improves v droop directly. If disabled, it will follow Intel specs, and knowing Intel® is paranoid when people want to OC, (due to warranty breach and lawsuit) they will usually have their settings with very big gaps in v droop to overprotect the chip. If u still have problems with this huge v droop dilemma, i guess u might want to start a new thread to isolate this matter, probably a lot of people might have the same problem as you. The worst case scenario about irregular v droops is that it might involve manipulating BIOS, etc. I'm not a pro with this kinda things sweat.gif

tq for the TP recommendation, I hope they got the stuff in L.Y.Plaza, i used to use Xigmatek's TP, they somehow become solid now, not a good TP.  rclxub.gif
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i had done some reading after u mentioned about the Vdroop n so on.. it happens to be the disabled LLC..

Bios setting 1.28750V, Bios reading show: 1.26+V.. cpu-z idle show: 1.248V, load: 1.232V or 1.216V

if LLC enabled then I think it will eliminate the Vdroop but at the same time causing voltage spike during phase change.. (tat's wat i read from googling.. correct me if i'm wrong sweat.gif)
with LLC enable, i think I can set lower Vcore ady..


yea.. TX-2 is a nice TP at a nice price.. <Rm20..

if u got the money, can try TX-3 too.. but difference in performance is about 1~2°C onli according to review.. I'm using TX-2 now, it decrease my tempearture about 2~3°C compare to the xigmatek TP..

however, the temperature of my 2nd rig drop alot after I clean the stock HSF and applied TX-2.. a decrease about 10°C after the combination of clean HSF + TX-2..
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Aug 30 2009, 11:49 PM)
I have the LLC (Load line calibration) Enable bcoz its improves v droop directly. If disabled, it will follow Intel specs, and knowing Intel® is paranoid when people want to OC, (due to warranty breach and lawsuit) they will usually have their settings with very big gaps in v droop to overprotect the chip. If u still have problems with this huge v droop dilemma, i guess u might want to start a new thread to isolate this matter, probably a lot of people might have the same problem as you. The worst case scenario about irregular v droops is that it might involve manipulating BIOS, etc. I'm not a pro with this kinda things sweat.gif

tq for the TP recommendation, I hope they got the stuff in L.Y.Plaza, i used to use Xigmatek's TP, they somehow become solid now, not a good TP.  rclxub.gif
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Eeehhh just to clear up some misinformation.
Intel specify the vdroop spec is for the sake of protecting VRM circuit and processor smile.gif That the main reason for the specify spec wink.gif

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Aug 31 2009, 01:05 AM)
Eeehhh just to clear up some misinformation.
Intel specify the vdroop spec is for the sake of protecting VRM circuit and processor smile.gif That the main reason for the specify spec wink.gif
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Thanks 4 the correction btw, i was just being sarcastic about Intel, just a capitalist joke tongue.gif
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too bad..yesterday my DFI board refused to boot anymore..arrrggghhh make me rclxub.gif cry.gif

wanna get replacement as soon as possible to survive my E7200
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u fried yr mobo??

how? after u OC u unable to boot? or like normal use boot up failed?
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i dont know...look weird..lan port got light even i pull out the RJ45 cable...

i assumed mobo died already...after i assemble & troubleshoot almost hole night...i cant solved the problem...

right now searching for another one ASUS MAXIMUS II FORMULA board as replacement...
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I remember I used to encounter something like this years ago, i did everything troublelshoot possible, i thought the mobo was done for. But then for no reason i decide to replace the mobo battery,(that cell battery to boot up BIOS)...the mobo was a live again! dunno this would help u....
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yeah will try it asap bro...maybe it's work again..i'm love very well this board...
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 31 2009, 09:01 PM)
yeah will try it asap bro...maybe it's work again..i'm love very well this board...
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DFI is a nice board.. hope u can revive it by giving it a "shock" thumbup.gif flex.gif
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i'm just tried already..but no chance to bring 'him' back...already change cmos battery with new one but still refused to boot... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

maybe i need replacement mobo.. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Aug 31 2009, 09:46 PM)
i'm just tried already..but no chance to bring 'him' back...already change cmos battery with new one but still refused to boot... cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

maybe i need replacement mobo.. rclxub.gif
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Damn, that was some of my best solution for fixing mobo but it failed to revive yours. doh.gif

One last thing, did u try using the PSU from u'r first rig, this is a tedious(leceh) process, my bro used to have mobo probs
(LAN light is ON, HDD ON, everything is ON but not BOOTing), he change psu and comes the famiiliar Boot beeping sounds and everything's alive again.

I dont want to give you false hope bro, I'm just saying if u'r up for it.........
The DFI is such a good board to be given up on nod.gif
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 1 2009, 07:27 AM)
Damn, that was some of my best solution for fixing mobo but it failed to revive yours. doh.gif

One last thing, did u try using the PSU from u'r first rig, this is a tedious(leceh) process, my bro used to have mobo probs
(LAN light is ON, HDD ON, everything is ON but not BOOTing), he change psu and comes the famiiliar Boot beeping sounds and everything's alive again.

I dont want to give you false hope bro, I'm just saying if u'r up for it.........
The DFI is such a good board to be given up on nod.gif
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nevermind bro..i'm already tired to troubleshoot my DFI...

hehehe..finally i got replacement mobo already..got TPower I45..waiting for shipment...

later i will post the result for my replacement mobo...
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 1 2009, 12:22 PM)
nevermind bro..i'm already tired to troubleshoot my DFI...

hehehe..finally i got replacement mobo already..got TPower I45..waiting for shipment...

later i will post the result for my replacement mobo...
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wow.. congrats.. so wat u do with yr DFI? RMA?
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i dont know yet for my DFI board...call someone to confirm 1st before send to RMA....i dont know exactly when my DFI has been bought by previous owner...
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 1 2009, 12:22 PM)
nevermind bro..i'm already tired to troubleshoot my DFI...

hehehe..finally i got replacement mobo already..got TPower I45..waiting for shipment...

later i will post the result for my replacement mobo...
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I always been planning to get that board! i'm dreaming to CF my 4870 drool.gif
Some people underestimate that board but the Tpower can performs as good as those high end mobo like
MSI Platinum, ASUS M.F II, DFI LanP LPDK P45, Asus Striker2 Formula, etc...
How much it cost u bro??? brows.gif

Yes, report back on how the TPower overclocks u'r E7200, maybe 4.2Ghz tongue.gif
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TPower I45 is good. smile.gif
Doin 4.0GHz on my E7400. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 1 2009, 10:18 PM)
I always been planning to get that board! i'm dreaming to CF my 4870  drool.gif
Some people underestimate that board but the Tpower can performs as good as those high end mobo like
MSI Platinum, ASUS M.F II, DFI LanP LPDK P45, Asus Striker2 Formula, etc...
How much it cost u bro???  brows.gif

Yes, report back on how the TPower overclocks u'r E7200, maybe 4.2Ghz    tongue.gif
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after get I45 board i will shows the result...i'm bought used I45 rm380 including shipping...new one is too expensive because this for replacement mobo only


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TPower I45 is good. smile.gif
Doin 4.0GHz on my E7400. thumbup.gif

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will do the best to use 'hidden talent' I45 to get the higher score for my E7200 laugh.gif


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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 2 2009, 05:23 AM)
after get I45 board i will shows the result...i'm bought used I45 rm380 including shipping...new one is too expensive because this for replacement mobo only


Added on September 2, 2009, 5:25 am

will do the best to use 'hidden talent' I45 to get the higher score for my E7200  laugh.gif
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update me when u got the board.
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TPower I45 is good. smile.gif
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hahahaha....i'm just got my TPower I45...tonight i will play with my new toy...
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anyone help me..
i oc e7400 on msi p43-neo 3..
i just can go until 3.5ghz with 1.35 vcore..

it bcoz mobo o smthingelse..

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maybe mobo.. 350 fsb normally ok..
try raise mobo voltage..
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1.35Vcore is set in bios or show in cpu-z??

3.5Ghz use 1.35V is quite high IMO..

wat fsb u using?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Sep 3 2009, 05:44 PM)
maybe mobo.. 350 fsb normally ok..
try raise mobo voltage..
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how to do that..is it vcore?

QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 3 2009, 06:10 PM)
1.35Vcore is set in bios or show in cpu-z??

3.5Ghz use 1.35V is quite high IMO..

wat fsb u using?
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fsb mean wat..fsb i set?
333 x 10.5

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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
how to do that..is it vcore?
fsb mean wat..fsb i set?
333 x 10.5
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try pumping up some vnb/vmch.

1.35v or something near to it.see if it make any difference.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Sep 3 2009, 07:38 PM)
try pumping up some vnb/vmch.

1.35v or something near to it.see if it make any difference.
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ok..i try


Added on September 3, 2009, 10:19 pmwant to ask..what p35 best oveclock mobo..abit p35E??

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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 3 2009, 08:56 PM)
want to ask..what p35 best oveclock mobo..abit p35E??
In the class of P35, the abit doing pretty good in OCing, but it has a rival in competition:
DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL
Price: RM340@ LYPlaza.
These two board has always been competing with one another..(equivalent to the rivalry of Subaru impreza WRX sti vs. Mitsubishi Evo) nod.gif
But this was back years ago, its just up to what u prefer...
The abit is better looking, but the DFI may look simple, but it got tricks up its sleeves.
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As for your mobo, the msi p43-neo 3 should have no prob OCing the E7400 more than 3.6ghz.
Most E7400 can run 3.5ghz@ stock vcore/"automatic", 1.35v is in the region of 3.8ghz-ish. (hell some chip can run 4.0ghz on that vcore.)

The real power of CM Extreme 460 is about 435w, hope this is enough for OCing hmm.gif
U can calculate the Watts usage in your entire system here, just in case:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

What the temp of u'r E7400? Do you use after market CPU coolers? One thing i can thinks of right now due to insufficient info:
The cpu might reached a certain Autoshutdown when reached TJMax or BIOS auto shutdowns when cpu temp reached 90c plus(or what the bios specifies)...

333 x 10.5, are using 677mhz rams? Btw, is your 'FSB to Northbridge strap' set to 333 as well? need a little more info bro tongue.gif

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 12:02 AM)
Most E7400 can run 3.5ghz@ stock vcore/"automatic", 1.35v is in the region of 3.8ghz-ish. (hell some chip can run 4.0ghz on that vcore.)
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i did try running 333x10.5 with auto Vcore, tat shoots up to 1.31V shown in cpu-z.. rclxub.gif

as i mentioned earlier i set my Vcore to 1.28750V to get a stable 333x10.5..

do u remember how much is yr voltage when u set it auto?
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 12:02 AM)
In the class of P35, the abit doing pretty good in OCing, but it has a rival in competition:
DFI Blood Iron P35-T2RL 
Price: RM340@ LYPlaza.
These two board has always been competing with one another..(equivalent to the rivalry of Subaru impreza WRX sti vs. Mitsubishi Evo) nod.gif 
But this was back years ago, its just up to what u prefer...
The abit is better looking, but the DFI may look simple, but it got tricks up its sleeves.
pic:
http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=dbll_5.JPG

As for your mobo, the msi p43-neo 3 should have no prob OCing the E7400 more than 3.6ghz.
Most E7400 can run 3.5ghz@ stock vcore/"automatic", 1.35v is in the region of 3.8ghz-ish. (hell some chip can run 4.0ghz on that vcore.)

The real power of CM Extreme 460 is about 435w, hope this is enough for OCing hmm.gif
U can calculate the Watts usage in your entire system here, just in case:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

What the temp of u'r E7400? Do you use after market CPU coolers? One thing i can thinks of right now due to insufficient info:
The cpu might reached a certain Autoshutdown when reached TJMax or BIOS auto shutdowns when cpu temp reached 90c plus(or what the bios specifies)...

333 x 10.5, are using 677mhz rams? Btw, is your 'FSB to Northbridge strap' set to 333 as well? need a little more info bro tongue.gif
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about the psu i think like not enough..
1.35 vcore can reach 3.8??
damn..so many time try..FAILED rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
i oso try to increase a vcore n oso FAILED rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

my oc data..

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i did try running 333x10.5 with auto Vcore, tat shoots up to 1.31V shown in cpu-z..  rclxub.gif

as i mentioned earlier i set my Vcore to 1.28750V to get a stable 333x10.5..

do u remember how much is yr voltage when u set it auto?
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i hear that never set to auto vcore bcoz i maybe can reach a high vcore..
is it rite??

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are you sure your +12v is 10.++v? it's too low i think..it should be 11.4v-12.3v....
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QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 4 2009, 12:49 AM)
i did try running 333x10.5 with auto Vcore, tat shoots up to 1.31V shown in cpu-z..  rclxub.gif

as i mentioned earlier i set my Vcore to 1.28750V to get a stable 333x10.5..

do u remember how much is yr voltage when u set it auto?
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For my previous 334 x 10.5; I think it was around 1.26v, with v-droop it was 1.242v in CPU-Z.
Plus I was using Artic Cooling Freezer Xtreme that time, maybe the low temps contribute to my stability @ that vcore settings. hmm.gif

Just to remind u i used that setting bcoz thats the maximum ghz you can get if you use DDR2 667mhz ram to get that 1:1, nod.gif
now i'm using hyperx 800mhz, my usual preset of OCing is: 3.4ghz, 3.6ghz, 3.8ghz, 4.0ghz, etc.....

These days I'm experimenting on how much FSB can my mobo handle, (ASUS P5QL-Pro) latest trial is:
FSB 420 : DRAM 841mhz (1:1), i have to increase the hyperX from 1.8v to 2.0v to be stable, but fails at times..probably because to changed my timing from 5-5-5-15 to 4-4-4-12... sweat.gif
Still in the experiment phase though.. tongue.gif

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are you sure your +12v is 10.++v? it's too low i think..it should be 11.4v-12.3v....
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what +12v mean..
n how to make it higher bro..
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what i know la..+12v rail is for psu stability...more +12v droop mean not stable..correct me if wrong opinion about this...

p/s: what is your psu using right now?sometimes the software give wrong reading..better check in your bios...
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 4 2009, 01:21 AM)
what i know la..+12v rail is for psu stability...more +12v droop mean not stable..correct me if wrong opinion about this...

p/s: what is your psu using right now?sometimes the software give wrong reading..better check in your bios...
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im using CM EXTRME 460..
need change ? to better oc
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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 4 2009, 01:17 AM)
what +12v mean..
n how to make it higher bro..
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There's two version of CM Extreme 460; one is the one u'r using currently and 2nd is the newer one : CM Extreme 460 Plus
the 'CM460 Plus' has revised railings for the +12v since the older version has encounter lots of problems in term of railings and low true power output..
as low as 430w-ish of true power if i remember..

Yes your +12v is pretty low, should be at least 11v minimum, 11.8v average.

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from my experience bro..actually i'm also using E8400 E0 stepping also but need high Vcore (1.38v) to make it stable at 4.0ghz sad.gif ...if you can see majority E8400 E0 stepping can do 4.0ghz with 1.28v without problem...even i used TX750W psu...so it's depend on your proc & luck also...
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 01:30 AM)
There's two version of CM Extreme 460; one is the one u'r using currently and 2nd is the newer one : CM Extreme 460 Plus
the 'CM460 Plus' has revised railings for the +12v since the older version has encounter lots of problems in term of railings and low true power output..
as low as 430w-ish of true power if i remember..

Yes your +12v is pretty low, should be at least 11v minimum, 11.4v average.
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mine is xtream power plus..
i will try that.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 4 2009, 01:35 AM)
mine is xtream power plus..
i will try that.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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If its Exreme power plus, then the problem might be elsewhere.
(i'm not an electrician, but u'r +12v is STILL pretty low, probably i'm just wrong about the CM 460Plus,
maybe the CM460Plus hasnt improve much on its railings... hope any other CMextreme+ users can clarify me on this)


But of course still cant ruled out the possibility of PSU insufficient power output.
I think you should try very troubleshoot possible before deciding to buy new PSU's,
but if u got the $$$, a new PSU is somewhat recommendable and a good investment in the future u want to upgrade hardware bro nod.gif


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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 4 2009, 01:33 AM)
from my experience bro..actually i'm also using E8400 E0 stepping also but need high Vcore (1.38v) to make it stable at 4.0ghz  sad.gif ...if you can see majority E8400 E0 stepping can do 4.0ghz with 1.28v without problem...even i used TX750W psu...so it's depend on your proc & luck also...
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really2 luck bro.. biggrin.gif
normally i see E8400 easy oc to 4ghz..damn.. tongue.gif



QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 01:49 AM)
If its Exreme power plus, then the problem might be elsewhere.
(i'm not an electrician, but u'r +12v is STILL pretty low, probably i'm just wrong about the CM 460Plus,
maybe the CM460Plus hasnt improve much on its railings... hope any other CMextreme+ users can clarify me on this)


But of course still cant ruled out the possibility of PSU insufficient power output.
I think you should try very troubleshoot possible before deciding to buy new PSU's,
but if u got the $$$, a new PSU is somewhat recommendable and a good investment in the future u want to upgrade hardware bro nod.gif
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i oso think to new psu n grapics card.. icon_rolleyes.gif
maybe nxt year..no money rite now..

p/s..i try 3.65ghz with 1.36 vcore..stable.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
about 12v--still cannot solve..still at 10.++..hahha

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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 4 2009, 02:20 AM)
p/s..i try 3.65ghz with 1.36 vcore..stable.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
about 12v--still cannot solve..still at 10.++..hahha
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3.65ghz, whats u'r FSB now??? If its 400 and slightly above, then its good when running with DDR2 800. I think when u were OC'ing @3.5ghz, u downclocked u'r DDR2 800mhz DRAM to 678mhz-ish, which i presume might cause some instability. Maybe all these time the problem has to do with the Dram freq., not the Vcore because E7400 @3.5ghz does not really need to be push up to 1.35v...(maybe those unlucky chips might have to)

When u'r using DDR2 800, its recommended to OC u'r CPU to: (IMO nod.gif )
3.4ghz (400 x 8.5)
3.6ghz (400 x 9)
3.8ghz, (400 x 9.5)
4.0ghz, (400 x 10)
etc..........
^^^This is a common baseline for overclocking CPU with DDR2 800. (without needing to OC the DRAM) Later u can fine tune...
And as a bonus you obtain the FSB to Dram ratio of 1:1 biggrin.gif

With the FSB maintain at 400,(or slightly above) u dont have to overclocked/downlocked u'r DRAM frequency.
When OC'ing DRAM, usually need to alter the DRAM voltage or choose a compatible settings for 'clock twister' for stability.
e.g. my DDR2 is at 820mhz(410mhz)@1.9v; or 840(421mhz)@2.0v to remain stable.
But right now i'm on stock 800(400mhz) @1.8/AUTO.

Yeah the amps of the railings u cannot do anything about it once you bought a PSU.
But i think u'r PSU is good enough when u are currently using 9600 GT.
(FYI, 400w of real power and 26Amps on the 12v rail (combined) is more than enough for this card)

HD4850, 4870, 9800GT, GTs250, etc.. has drop its price significantly these days, just FYI if u'r planning to get those GC,
u at least need PSU with 500w+ of real power; 600w+ real power for SLI and C.Fire nod.gif

Anywayz, try playing around with those settings i recommend above and report back bro,
bcoz these are valuable data/info for all other E7xxx users to read. thumbup.gif
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omg.. talking about 12V+, i juz check mine, it just show 1.0V+ and sometimes not showing.. y ah? rclxub.gif
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software bugs maybe..what software you using it?

try everest ultimate edition latest version...

for me software just reference only..but i trust the reading from bios...
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HWmonitor n Everest oso show same reading.. sometimes 0.06V then sometimes disappear..

will check in bios later..
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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 03:35 AM)
3.65ghz, whats u'r FSB now??? If its 400 and slightly above, then its good when running with DDR2 800. I think when u were OC'ing @3.5ghz, u downclocked u'r DDR2 800mhz DRAM to 678mhz-ish, which i presume might cause some instability. Maybe all these time the problem has to do with the Dram freq., not the Vcore because E7400 @3.5ghz does not really need to be push up to 1.35v...(maybe those unlucky chips might have to)

When u'r using DDR2 800, its recommended to OC u'r CPU to: (IMO nod.gif )
3.4ghz (400 x 8.5)
3.6ghz (400 x 9)
3.8ghz, (400 x 9.5)
4.0ghz, (400 x 10) 
etc..........
^^^This is a common baseline for overclocking CPU with DDR2 800. (without needing to OC the DRAM) Later u can fine tune...
      And as a bonus you obtain the FSB to Dram ratio of 1:1  biggrin.gif

With the FSB maintain at 400,(or slightly above) u dont have to overclocked/downlocked u'r DRAM frequency.
When OC'ing DRAM, usually need to alter the DRAM voltage or choose a compatible settings for 'clock twister' for stability. 
e.g.  my DDR2 is at 820mhz(410mhz)@1.9v; or 840(421mhz)@2.0v to remain stable.
But right now i'm on stock 800(400mhz) @1.8/AUTO.

Yeah the amps of the railings u cannot do anything about it once you bought a PSU.
But i think u'r PSU is good enough when u are currently using 9600 GT.
(FYI, 400w of real power and 26Amps on the 12v rail (combined) is more than enough for this card)

HD4850, 4870, 9800GT, GTs250, etc.. has drop its price significantly these days, just FYI if u'r planning to get those GC,
u at least need PSU with 500w+ of real power; 600w+ real power for SLI and C.Fire  nod.gif

Anywayz, try playing around with those settings i recommend above and report back bro,
bcoz these are valuable data/info for all other E7xxx users to read.  thumbup.gif
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BRO..I CANT SET TO 400 X 9 FSB..
IT WILL SHOW PREVIOUS OC IS FAILED..
EVEN I SET fsb to 400 x 7 is oso failed.. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

one more, is it ABIT IP35-E about 150 is worth to buy??
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QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 4 2009, 11:46 AM)
HWmonitor n Everest oso show same reading.. sometimes 0.06V then sometimes disappear..

will check in bios later..
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maybe you need to update with latest bios...

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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 4 2009, 03:22 PM)
BRO..I CANT SET TO 400 X 9 FSB..
IT WILL SHOW PREVIOUS OC IS FAILED..
EVEN I SET  fsb to 400 x 7 is oso failed.. rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

one more, is it ABIT IP35-E about 150 is worth to buy??
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Man that's unlucky cry.gif It's the mobo...

ABIT IP35-E is RM350 brand new @LowYatPlaza, The DFI i reccomended earlier is RM340 @LYP. If u got the cash, there's another P35 mobo, buts its consider expensive if u'r in a budget:
MSI MS-7345 P35 PLATINUM (2 PCIE=Crossfire) @RM490 LYP.
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Its doesnt always have to be P35 bro, u just need to find another P43/P45 mobo, e.g. like Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, Asus P5QE,
Jetway JXBLUE-P45(this one fetured in Goldfries's review on OCZ 1.2ghz in GameAxis magazine) Asus P5P43TD (DDR3), Biostar TP 43, etc...
(all the mobo above budget less than RM350)

or if u feel lucky u can go hunting in LYN garage sales for a bargained price thumbup.gif


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juz check in bios.. it shows 12.429V.. phew..

anyway, +12Va with 18A good enuf? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 4 2009, 10:37 PM)
juz check in bios.. it shows 12.429V.. phew..

anyway, +12Va with 18A good enuf? hmm.gif
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total only 18A? if combine rails how much you get?

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QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 4 2009, 10:37 PM)
juz check in bios.. it shows 12.429V.. phew..

anyway, +12Va with 18A good enuf? hmm.gif
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18Amps per single +12V railings is above enough or standard nod.gif

I'm using FSP Epsilon 80Plus 600w, with 64Amps, combination of 4/quad +12v railings of 18Amps each.
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QUOTE(nidzamputra @ Sep 4 2009, 10:40 PM)
total only 18A? if combine rails how much you get?
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dunno how to differentiate single or combined..

i saw
+12VA = 18Amps
+12VB = 18Amps

so i guess combine is 36Amps? hmm.gif
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^^^whats psu u using bro?

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Gigabyte superb 550W onli..
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QUOTE(farscope @ Sep 4 2009, 11:33 PM)
Gigabyte superb 550W onli..
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Yes, the gigabyte has double railings of +12v, in which 360w/+12v = 30A combined.

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 11:56 PM)
Yes, the gigabyte has double railings of +12v = 36A Total

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thanks bro.. i m still noob n need to learn alot.. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(JoBigShow @ Sep 4 2009, 10:36 PM)
Man that's unlucky cry.gif It's the mobo...

ABIT IP35-E is RM350 brand new @LowYatPlaza, The DFI i reccomended earlier is RM340 @LYP. If u got the cash, there's another P35 mobo, buts its consider expensive if u'r in a budget:
MSI MS-7345 P35 PLATINUM (2 PCIE=Crossfire) @RM490 LYP.
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Its doesnt always have to be P35 bro, u just need to find another P43/P45 mobo, e.g. like Gigabyte EP43-UD3L, Asus P5QE,
Jetway JXBLUE-P45(this one fetured in Goldfries's review on OCZ 1.2ghz in GameAxis magazine) Asus P5P43TD (DDR3), Biostar TP 43,  etc...
(all the mobo above budget less than RM350)

or if u feel lucky u can go hunting in LYN garage sales for a bargained price thumbup.gif
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i hear that p35 n 45 chipset will more excellent in oc..rite??
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how to overclock a computer, guys? teach me..
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12V rail for that PSU is actually 32A30A max allowed when combined both rails...
if hardware already accomodates 18A at 12V1 rail and balance capacity for 12V2 is 12A... vice versa...
ie..
12V1 =16A,12V2=14A...
12V1 = 17A, 12V2=13A

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QUOTE(hantu667 @ Sep 5 2009, 01:34 AM)
ok2 bro..thankz .. notworthy.gif

i hear that p35 n 45 chipset will more excellent in oc..rite??
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First of all,
The main difference is the CFire setup, the P35 has a x16 - x4 arrangement and the P45 has a x8 - x8 for both of the PCI-E graphic slots.
the P45 uses the newer ICH10 southbridge, the P35 uses the older ICH9. Not too much difference. But of course the p45 is the more newer/updated chip.

45 chipset will more excellent in oc..rite??

Intel claims that p45 does slightly better in Oc'ing compare to p43.
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Just for your info, a p43 and p45 'almost' the same thing, (probably is, because the are manufactured with the same crystals)
but the main difference is that p45 is CFire capable and the p43 can't.

But there are few mobo's out there that have p45 chipset but does not utilize CF.
Some say it's a 'marketing gimmick' when it comes to such mobo's such as for example;
Gigabyte EP45-UD3L, MSI 7514 P45 Neo3-FR, Asus P5Q Turbo, etc......
This is because these mobo's use p45 chipsets but doesnt offer CF, which means u pay more unnecessarily for a mobo with chipset the similar performance as p43. But is that true? hmm.gif (the rest is better to be discussed in another thread unfortunately)..

My opinion is as such:
- P43 fsb overclocking is supposedly going to be restricted to 400-425fsb, but p45 can go moderately over that.
- If u'r not planning to go CrossFire the P43 is adequate.
- If u still not planning to go Crossfire but want a slight edge in OC'ing, go for the p45.
(Me personally will go for the p45 CF enabled mobo BUT if u don't want the CF option, the p43 is good enough and save some $$$. ) thumbup.gif
- p45 is probably a more updated version to p35 if u have trouble with which one to buy
- non-CF p45 mobo's cost more than p43 and p35

Overall i think u should get the p43 mobo's if u plan to use DDR2 800 because u dont need to go over 400fsb to get the 1:1 ratio,
get a p45 mobo if u plan to use DDR2 1066 & DDR2 1200 to get FSB up to 533..


To conclude in a logical sense, get a p43 mobo's if u are in a budget because you still can get 4.0ghz+ from the CPU. (400fsb~425fsb X 10~10.5)
But if u have some extra $$$, a tad more OC'ng headroom and won't mind emending to the 'marketing gimmick', its your choice to get the non-CF p45 mobo's.
Get a p35 mobo's if u want 'the reasonable of the p43 mobo's' and 'the similar performance of a p45 mobo's, but suffer a little from the older southbridge.




(man the thread is seriously getting out of its real topic lately............E7xxx. I have the funny feeling i might have cause it ever since i enter this thread) laugh.gif

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Sep 5 2009, 02:16 AM)
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12V rail for that PSU is actually 32A max allowed when combined both rails...
if hardware already accomodates 18A at 12V1 rail and balance capacity for 12V2 is 14A... vice versa...
ie..
12V1 =16A,12V2=16A...
12V1 = 17A, 12V2=15A
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I see...its equilibrium. So the max for 1 railing is 18Amps on that psu. How do you know its max Amp? whats the calculation?

Here's my PSU info:
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so for my quad +12V, if one railing occupies 18A, the rest of the 3 unoccupied railings will have a shared/unshared Ampage of???
(at the moment all me rails are occupied)
In fact where does it written on the PSU details above of how much Max Ampage my psu have. Is it 60Amps?(just guessing)

I knew it i was suppose to pay more attention to Physics in high school doh.gif

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Sorry.. i made a mistake earlier. The correct value is 30A.. U can refer to the label on both column "12V1 and 12V2" and row "max combined wattage"... 360W divide by 12V = 30A (Note..power law equation Power=Current X Voltage )...

As 4 your PSU.. Its simple actually.. simple mathematics... nothing to do with physics except the power law....
575W (combined {+12V} + {+3.3V} + {+5V} rails) - 155W (combined {+3.3V} + {+5V} rail) = 420 W capacity@12V rails (equivalent to 35A)

Specifically for your PSU... actually the rails are shared to single transformer (higher wattage/power PSU usually uses more than one transformer.. so different case)... the multi-rail PSU is designed to meet intel ATX PSU spec which limit each +12V rail to 18A for safety reason.... n each rail is routed to specific hardware... ie your PSU has 4 rails...so 12V1 for CPU, 12V3 for HDD, Optical, etc 12V2+12V4 for PCI-E graphics card(s)...

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Sep 5 2009, 05:12 AM)
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Sorry.. i made a mistake earlier. The correct value is 30A.. U can refer to the label on both column "12V1 and 12V2" and row "max combined  wattage"... 360W divide by 12V = 30A (Note..power law equation  Power=Current X Voltage )...

As 4 your PSU.. Its simple actually.. simple mathematics... nothing to do with physics except the power law....
575W (combined {+12V} + {+3.3V} + {+5V} rails) - 155W (combined {+3.3V} + {+5V} rail) =  420 W capacity@12V rails  (equivalent to 35A)
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Thanks for the schooling, biggrin.gif the equation 'Power(W) = Current(A) X Voltage(V)' is such a basic formula, doh.gif but the last time i was in high school was years ago....

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My former math teacher must be disappointed if he knows i forgot his teachings... sweat.gif


Added on September 5, 2009, 6:08 amOne more question, lets say a hardware occupies/acommendate 12v1 @ 18A, then how the 'balance capacity' works out on the rest of 12v2, 12v3, & 12v4? is it spread evenly?

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One more question, lets say a hardware occupies/acommendate 12v1 @ 18A, then how the 'balance capacity' works out on the rest of 12v2, 12v3, & 12v4? is it spread evenly?
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My previous statement

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each rail is routed to specific hardware... ie your PSU has 4 rails...so 12V1 for CPU, 12V3 for HDD, Optical,etc 12V2+12V4 for PCI-E graphics card(s)...
CPU already accommodated *18A @12V1.. so total capacity left @+12V rail is 17A... and that 17A is for the rest of the hardwares @ 12V2, 12V3, 12V4.. if one GC accommodates 7A @ each 12V2 and 12V4 (meaning 2 GCs)... then the current left for the HDDs and optical drives @12V3 is 3A...
the key ingredients to mix and match the +12V rails are.. don't exceed 18A load for each rail.. and dont exceed 35A load for combined rails...

* In reality... CPU doesnt eat that much power... my stock Q9550 eats around 55W~60W and when OCed w/ voltage increment @1.325V is approx 110W (ASUS EPU-6 Engine monitor report) .. and usually max possible power consumption for a CPU is 130W (11A) unless if the CPU is overclocked w/ voltage increment which add another +60W(5A) power consumption for example

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QUOTE(campsol2k @ Sep 5 2009, 06:22 AM)

CPU already accomodated *18A @12V1.. so total capacity left @+12V rail is 17A... and that 17A is for the rest of the hardwares @ 12V2, 12V3, 12V4..
* In reality... CPU doesnt eat that much power... my stock Q9550 eats around 55W~60W and when OCed w/ voltage increment @1.325V is approx 110W (ASUS EPU-6 Engine monitor report) .. and usually max possible usage for a CPU is 130W (11A) unless if the CPU is overclocked w/ voltage increment which add another +60W(5A) usage for example
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Thanks bro, with what i learned, now i can accurately calculate how much my whole system consumes in terms of wattage, which hence i can figure out if my PSU is adequate for my current system and for other hardware upgrade to come in the future. thumbup.gif

Yes, i forgot the real world application of power usage is different theoretically, like u mentioned,
So, my cpu consumes average 45W (on my E7400 OC'ed at 1.3v@ 35A x 1.3 = 46.2W)
My GC 4870 idle @ 150W (needs 2 6pin connector(75w x 2), load about 290W
DDR2 Ram 1.8v = 63w.

Thats already 400W, excluding the calculation of CD drives, FDD, HDD, etc. Am I underpowered, or am i just exaggerating theoretically? because lot of other people i know have similar PC setup as mined but able to run their pc even with lower powered PSU than mine.

Rig:
E7400 3.8ghz@ 1.312v
HD 4870
Asus P5QL-Pro
DDR2 2G 800mhz HyperX
1 HDD
1 DVD-R


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Man... your estimation is way out of range...
a bit info just to let u know....
HDD uses +12VDC(for motor) and +5VDC supply rail..
Fans uses +12VDC supply rail
Mobo(SB/NB/etc) uses +5VDC +3.3VDC supply rails


- ATI HD4870 consumes max 180W (1 6-pin PCI-E connector supply upto 75W & PCI-E x16 slot supply upto 75W)... but normally the average power consumption doesnt exceed that number(70%~80% during gaming) ....
- DDR2 consumes estimated 12W on 4 slots (if one stick consumes around 3W).. the DDR3 uses less power than DDR2... DDR > DDR2 > DDR3
- For non-OCed/OCed CPU... the max power consumption is proportional to the increment of clock speed and the supply voltage...
- CPU or some hardwares power consumption varies between load... idle CPU uses less power...
- Your CPU consumes around 30~40W @ stock

ADDED:
Correction... i made a mistake again... i didnt notice that the rail distribution is stated on your PSU label. Most PSUs don't provide this kind of info to users... FSP is generous enough to put them on the their PSU label... so i made my own assumption before.... the actually rail distribution for your PSU ... 12V1 for CPU.. 12V2 for PCI-E GC... 12V3 for hdd/etc.. 12V4 PCI-E GC...

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OK, i'll try to do the estimates again, correct me again if i'm wrong:
1 HDD rated @ +12v/+5v (0.5A, 0.6A), hence ((0.5A x 12)+(0.6A x 12)) = 9W
4 case fans, approx. 1.2w~1.4w each = approx. 5.2w
1 CPU fan 120mm = approx 1.8w
1 4870; 75w x 2 = 150w average
2 DDR2; 3W x 2 = 6w
1 OC'ed e7400 3.8ghz @1.3v = LOAD approx. 50w average. (reference from Everest readings)
1 Asus P5QL-Pro; SB,NB, etc. via 4pin atx + 24-pin EATXPWR = Just guessing about 50w max.

= 272w of approximation wattage usage

Therefore:
(155w - 50w) + (420w - 222w) = approx. 303w of headroom @575w;
303w x 100% / 600w = approx. 50.5% total reserved wattage.
Yes bro, how's this estimation measured up in the practical real world scenario? biggrin.gif

And does the 80Plus efficiency by any chance can curb down the wattage usage? even a little?

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You r on the right track (although some aren't accurate/correct but i think its acceptable for quick estimation)... The estimation u've made is the estimated peak wattage (this estimation helps u determine the right PSU capacity when building a computer) ... its unlikely your computer used that much most of the time because the hardwares power consumption varies between load... average will be estimated 70%~90% of the peak power during load (depends on the type of task ... gaming, etc )....
ie during gaming your hard disk will idle most of the time... CPU n GPU usage don't 100% utilized all the time during gaming... it depends on how efficient the games are coded or which games uses hardware efficiently such as CPU intensive game like GTA4 uses more CPU power than GPU...

Now.. the wattage u estimated is the ideal hardware consumption... but the real power consumption is the power drawn from your AC wall socket ( aka the amount of energy sucks from power utility company)... here the efficiency of a PSU comes into play. Most old PSUs have 70~75% efficiency@ "typical load" (Note: meaning 50% of total PSU capacity is loaded). However, most cap ayam PSUs have below 70% eff. By using 80plus PSUs which they have more than 80% efficiency.. u can save your energy bills...
ie
non 80-plus PSU (70% eff) - the amount of power drawn from socket = 272/0.7 = 388W
80-plus PSU (80% eff) - the amount of power drawn from socket = 272/0.8 = 340W
See the difference?

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Yes, my estimation seems to aim at the max. of what my whole system will/can consume at peak wattage...
Probably in the back of my mind all these times i have second thoughts if my PSU is capable enough of handling another 4870 to CrossFire. hmm.gif
(Yes, since my rig is 3 months new, its still 'under watchful scrutiny' if the PSU capacity is suitable and have the capability to handle another 4870.)

It seems that the real power consumptions are variables, i dont think i'll be getting any accurate readings at any fixed measure...
Thanks for correcting the misinformation i have; that a system doesnt always hover/stays too long in its peaks wattage.
Like u said, in the premise of 70% ~ 90% load. thumbup.gif

Relatively, adding insult to injuries I think I was made confused or mislead by PSU manufacturer's 'marketing gimmicks' when they advertised their PSU often @ peak wattage, but seldom their true power. It makes a hassle to those who's aware to the importance of power requirements and wants to build a rig with a complied PSU. Its just not about peak powers, but prominently are 'combined Amps' and the max. wattage at +12v rails, (which most power consuming hardware occupies/resides) which then follows with wattages @ +5v, then etc..

Efficiency-wise that u mentioned, that's a fair amount of energy saved if looked at a 1 years perspective of energy consumption in a household.
That 80Plus rating is for sure no gimmick i suppose.

Much gratitude man to your intervention and schooling in Mathematics i have now completed with another Chapter (Power Supply Unit 101),
which now adds into my 'resume' on 'Rig Building, OC'ing & PC Mods'. notworthy.gif




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