he by passed the preamp section of the amp?
the unison research i think is memang single ended wor.

yea the preamp is not there anymore, he make another tube pre-amp, sound pretty decent, he coil his own transformer too

simply 4 original design is 2 tube per channel.

he moded it to 1 tube per channel. so im guessing half the wattage now, but according to him its alot cleaner.

i cant judge tho cos the callas tweeter is spoiled and replace with a cheapo unit, it alot cleaner compare to last time, but it bcame thin

BTW, who is the SF dealer in Klang Valley now ah ?

Perfect HIFI

After visiting Norman Audio's Krell product on recent KLAV show, looking eagerly on this amp now, as the price of Krell KAV400xi dropped below RM10k.

Would try to audition on the amp with SFCD. Any SF fan club members have done this setup and audition? What's your feedback?

yeah. Krell KAV-400Xi going for around RM9K now .

This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Jul 30 2008, 10:18 PM

It's actually RM9900, to be exact.

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Added on July 31, 2008, 1:39 amI know someone who may want to let go a KAV-400xi for RM7k. 18 months old, mint condition (9/10), complete with box and manual.

This post has been edited by wkfoong: Jul 31 2008, 01:39 AM

Have anyone tried using SF Grand Piano (floorstanders) in an AV setup? Are they suitable? Asking this on behalf of my friend, any inputs appreciated.

How I wish to have the amount of cash to grab it and a pair of Sonus..

i tested krell. not sure which model. but it's intergrated in perfect hifi.
pair with my own pair of SFCD. seriously nice.
speed. transparencies. smooth is top notch i ever heard from my own speaker.
the only amp that i like more than the krell is audio research. it's matching my personal taste more.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 1 2008, 12:55 PM

Wah.. Trying to inject more poisons. No antidote.

RACUN RACUN !!!

hahahahahaha

Audio research which you mention is integrated amp or pre/power?

if i have a chance and perfect hifi has Krell KAV 400xi, i would like to do a critical listening if it suit my taste (jazz, classical, new age) not fast pace music pairing with my SFCD. thanks for sharing your experience, pcwork

If i can bring Krell back to my home for test audition, that will be superb (My dream), as other components such as speaker cables, analogue cables, surely provide different result from hifi shop.

Not like country in US that you can bring home to test with certain written agreement. I hope to see the first hifi shop in Malaysia can offer this.

Cheers

intergrated also
i think it's 55i
i comparing both intergrated.
for me. pre/power configuration is a dream that is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAR away from me.
lol

i do listen it with jazz and classical.
the fastest song i listen is take dake "ju ju"
most of my song collection were jazz.... janis ian..andrea bocelli sort of things.
the speed i mean is not for fast pace of music. it's really accurate... when we talking about detail. we can often say micro detail. however this speed i am refering is. making the sonus faber free from "lagg". or the speed for micro detail that it doesn't makes the sound sticky... hopes u get what i mean. my experience is i listening to Yo-yo Ma. the extra speed and extra accuracies makes the cello sounds realistic. which pops in my mind that "hm.. this sounds more like cello to me.." and the emotion really did well. controlling SF really great. which i don't even can obtain same amount of emotion with my own setup although i blast it with much louder volume. the emotion is just not there.
as compare to primare setup i tried in CMY. primare is good for proac. but imho. Krell / Audio research is more fun for Sonus.

What a great analysis, pcwork!

I am not too much for detail or too accurate, as long as i can listen to all kind of music instruments and well defined as if the musician are playing in front of you, naturally, feel comfortably, grainless, never stop from listening...

I am looking forward to audition audio analogue puccini settanta, krell kav400xi with SFCD when i am really free.

Cheers

Krells really can rock SFs ...

In fact, there was this "killer combo" in the 90s ... the KAV-300i rocking a pair of Extremas .. and at that time, it was the ONLY Integrated that could drive the Extremas. Needless to say, the KAV-300i got pretty toasty to the touch after about 30mins or so working on the Extremas at normal listening levels.

In case some of you'll haven't noticed, the SF Extrema is (perhaps the only one of its kind) really one hungry power sucker, so hungry that even its PASSIVE CROSSOVER has a HEATSINK protruding out the rear of the cabinet !!.

Imagine that for a loudspeaker ... u need a HEATSINK for it's Crossover alone !

when i bought my SFCD. i thinking of "AS SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE" and those words slaps in my brain deeply.
hence i was thinking i don't even upgrade my amp from NAD.
i am quite happy with heavily modified NAD. however. now. after i tested the krell with my own sonus, i really miss the "control" of the amp.
it's not matter of how loud. it's matter of controlling. and the speed / accuracies will truly add refinement on reproducing the great minor notes that is SO important in orchestra / vocal / jazz... which it truly brings great information about emotion of the players / singer.
however. i also tested the audio analoge.. which IMHO. its not my cup of tea.. i don't know why. i prefer my own NAD more than the 10X higher price audio analoge.. it's too digital for my ear imho.
=P
i think if i were to describe it...

my NAD = photo that is blured, but smooth enough for ppl to see the object. but not micro detail. and it's more emphasise on the scene itself.. rather than all detail. u can enjoy the picture of the scene. but it's not that clear.. so some might as well call it as "ART" feeling. nothings to wow about any accuracies, or any superior comes from the picture. to enjoy the picture is just purely from the scene(songs) itself, and perhaps the skill / angle taking by the photographer (tuning of accesories such as cable)

Krell = sort of carl zeiss with superb combination of aparture setting. depth of field.. nice contrast.. nice focus... clear at places that it should be clear., blur at places it shall blur, super accurate tone of colour(accurate white balance) , red means red, blue means blue (which in this case, grate tonality). well.. it's all great for me.. while in this other hand. i feel that audio research were sort of leica.. also all great for me. and i like leica more than zeiss though =P


Audio analoge = Photoshop created computer CG. which super detail from the front to the end. which imho.. fake to my ear though. pls note my words that the setup is what i tested at perfect hifi, with my own sfcd, and the cable patched by alvin on the setup. i not sure why it's like that. but i just don't like it. i might needs another listen to clearly appriciate it's benefits.


hopes it give a greater ideal.
lol
extrema is truly extreme that it's the heaviest bookshelve ever produced i guess.
each of the bookshelve comes nearly 80KG..
=P

This post has been edited by PcWork: Aug 2 2008, 02:02 AM

Great analogy.

I have listened to Audio Analogue Primo (50W @ 8ohm) pairing with SFCD with its original stand at Perfect Hifi before, i don't like the sound produced when Fourplay music was played, all the instruments are mixed together, not well defined, worse than my current int amp - Cambridge Audio 540A.

Actually, i am quite satisfying with my current amp, except when play classical music, i feel there are some hiding music instruments which need a high power amp like Krell probably. If Audio Analogue Puccini Settanta (70W @ 8 ohm) only give slight improvement from its litte brother, i will look for Krell then. As always, audition before making conclusion.

Cheers.

eh, if there's a s/hand Krell KAV-300i going around .. might you guys be interested ?

(no, I ain't selling mine!)



This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Aug 2 2008, 10:41 AM