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TSgrandspy
post Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM

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Had a good listen to the Bladelius amp today. Not the Thor but the much bigger brother. Still it gave some idea on characteristics of the amp. Tubey sounded it was indeed. And I did like it biggrin.gif

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PcWork, so when is the SF listening session? long time overdue.. wink.gif BTW the top of the range SF speakers gave me goosebumps all over sweat.gif
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post Jul 27 2008, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jul 27 2008, 09:48 PM)
then i better saving up for concertino domus stand then. don't wanna wait it's out of phase then hard to find liao.
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Concertino Domus stand ... i alredy have that piece also...
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post Jul 28 2008, 12:00 AM

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can i bring a moded unison research simply 4 to your house to test out those beauty? tongue.gif but sonus faber needs good wattage right?

cunrrently paired with Opera Callas
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post Jul 28 2008, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(grandspy @ Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM)
Had a good listen to the Bladelius amp today. Not the Thor but the much bigger brother. Still it gave some idea on characteristics of the amp. Tubey sounded it was indeed. And I did like it  biggrin.gif

hasyrein, welcome!
PcWork, so when is the SF listening session? long time overdue..  wink.gif BTW the top of the range SF speakers gave me goosebumps all over  sweat.gif
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Just asking, you guys got a decent listening room to audition the SF stuff ?


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post Jul 28 2008, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(grandspy @ Jul 27 2008, 09:50 PM)
Had a good listen to the Bladelius amp today. Not the Thor but the much bigger brother. Still it gave some idea on characteristics of the amp. Tubey sounded it was indeed. And I did like it  biggrin.gif

hasyrein, welcome!
PcWork, so when is the SF listening session? long time overdue..  wink.gif BTW the top of the range SF speakers gave me goosebumps all over  sweat.gif
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after AV fair kok.. my fren is busy for av fair now.
he already agree that we have our mini sonus faber fan club gathering at his shop.

QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Jul 28 2008, 01:26 AM)
Just asking, you guys got a decent listening room to audition the SF stuff ?
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no we don't. but i was intended to hold a sonus faber gathering at hifi shop.
talking around. and ask shares some do and dont's on the sonus setup. =)

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post Jul 28 2008, 10:27 AM

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Pcwork, is it in Sri Hartamas?
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post Jul 28 2008, 10:39 AM

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hahaha ... i can bring my SF Concertos to contribute to the test sessions ...

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post Jul 28 2008, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(mariobro @ Jul 27 2008, 04:17 PM)
Can anybody tells me where can i buy these stands in malaysia ? i have been looking for this stand for a long time.
Its for sf concerto home.
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I am also seeking for a pair of Sonus Faber stands myself and the last I checked, Perfect HiFi at Wisma HLA KL still has a pair of SF original fixed height stands. Two buts here; firstly the walnut is in piano black finish and secondly they are asking for RM1,800 for the pair.

During the recent KLAV show, I have seen many HiFi vendors including Audiophile Enterprise of Kampar Perak and CMY pairing off their Von Schweikert Audo and Usher loudspeakers respectively with SF lookalike stands but prices are anything except reasonable. Also, I doubt these stands could be coupled and locked onto the SF speakers.

P/S Could anyone who has listened extensively to both the Concerto Home and Concertino Home comment on direct comparison between these two models? My own perception is that the Concerto Home will have more bass and better soundstaging (height, width and depth) but the winner of the ever beautiful midrange department is Concertino Home and I was actually looking forward to people telling me otherwise that Concerto Home beats Concertino Home pants down. icon_idea.gif

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post Jul 28 2008, 02:49 PM

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obviously ... its like Honda Accord compared to Honda Civic.

THe question would be, what environment would be better for the speaker to be used in. Same goes for the kind of Amplifier available to drive those speakers.



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mugenfoo, thanks for comment. Care to elaborate slightly more?

There is a review on SF Concertino in Audioasylum by a Chris Wynn who wrote, "... In comparison to the larger Sonus Faber Concerto, the Concertinos lack a little bass extension, but are that much more transparent through the mid-range and treble. The Tinos are the most accurate of the two models. Moreover, the bass roll-off qualities of the Tinos allow a completely seamless (and undetectable) join with a sub-woofer. ..."

Presently, I owned the Civic and love the SF sound so much so I was thinking of getting an Accord, but is it really an Accord in the first place? This, is my objective of finding out assuming watt-wise, my present amp has enough juices to drive both models adequately well. I do not think I am prepared to or could afford higher models beyond these. Even the newly re-launched Minima Vintage is priced above RM10k now.

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post Jul 28 2008, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jul 28 2008, 10:27 AM)
Pcwork, is it in Sri Hartamas?
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perfect hifi in wisma MPL. =)
there are some sonus faber user who is not forumer of lyn, might able to join the meet.
i will prepare to send out invitation to them =)



lol sonus user should gets gathering though as we shared same taste.
L3/5A user always gather together for sharing their though and most important. introducing some nice music that play nice on l3/5A
really wish sonus also establish a club over malaysia user.
hehehe


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post Jul 28 2008, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Jul 28 2008, 05:00 PM)
mugenfoo, thanks for comment. Care to elaborate slightly more?

There is a review on SF Concertino in Audioasylum by a Chris Wynn who wrote, "... In comparison to the larger Sonus Faber Concerto, the Concertinos lack a little bass extension, but are that much more transparent through the mid-range and treble. The Tinos are the most accurate of the two models. Moreover, the bass roll-off qualities of the Tinos allow a completely seamless (and undetectable) join with a sub-woofer. ..."

Presently, I owned the Civic and love the SF sound so much so I was thinking of getting an Accord, but is it really an Accord in the first place? This, is my objective of finding out assuming watt-wise, my present amp has enough juices to drive both models adequately well. I do not think I am prepared to or could afford higher models beyond these. Even the newly re-launched Minima Vintage is priced above RM10k now.
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well... if you're on a budget, then the Accord is out ... u got to make do with a Civic.


But lets say money isd not the issue here, then u can consider other factors like if its mainly going to be driven in the city only , or you wanna go long journeys / outstation trips more .... the choice is obvious.


Same thing with speakers (or any hifi equipment for that matter) .. if u are on shoestring budget .. then the choices are already limited for you.
Then even if you got the moolah, but if you only got a small room to put your hifi, , no point putting in a pair of Vandersteens or Duntech Sovereign loudspeakers. A good pair of LS3/5a would definitely sound much better in a small room than any of the 2 above.

And you got to consider if your existing Amp is up to task for the speakers as well ( or if u intend to upgrade amps to let your SonusFaber show their full potential) .... I once had an idiot of a friend who came to my house one day, and brought his puny 50Wpc integrated amp.. Some Frenchie brand (i forgot what name already) to try and drive my Apogee floorstanders. Can hear very obviously the amp was choking and coughing blood even without playing loudly. Thin and nasal sounding, no dynamics, wobbly stereo imaging, cracking at the treble, blah blah blah... all the bad shit of a poor match system (luckily didnt spoil my speakers!!) . doh.gif





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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jul 28 2008, 08:34 PM)
perfect hifi in wisma MPL. =)
there are some sonus faber user who is not forumer of lyn, might able to join the meet.
i will prepare to send out invitation to them =)
lol sonus user should gets gathering though as we shared same taste.
L3/5A user always gather together for sharing their though and most important. introducing some nice music that play nice on l3/5A
really wish sonus also establish a club over malaysia user.
hehehe
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silly me. I thought you guys going to demo Krell with SF since they say it is a good match.

Perfect Hi-Fi in MPL. So, it's Alvin thumbup.gif Very good service.

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post Jul 29 2008, 01:03 AM

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this is maybe coz Krell amps are sounding on the "harsh" side. Whereas SFs are on the "polite" smooth side. It could be a yin-yang synergy thingy between Krell and SFs . hahahahahahahaha


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post Jul 29 2008, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jul 28 2008, 08:34 PM)
perfect hifi in wisma MPL. =)
there are some sonus faber user who is not forumer of lyn, might able to join the meet.
i will prepare to send out invitation to them =)
lol sonus user should gets gathering though as we shared same taste.
L3/5A user always gather together for sharing their though and most important. introducing some nice music that play nice on l3/5A
really wish sonus also establish a club over malaysia user.
hehehe
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There are few customers are LYN member but they are not keen to join the audiophile discussion and some not really like to meet up noob geek but there are some friendly customers can meet up to discuss but make sure your "invited guest" can carry themselves well and mind their manner many of those are not ordinary people. smile.gif

FYI: Perfect HiFi gonna have a new branch soon.
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where ?
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post Jul 30 2008, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Jul 28 2008, 09:48 AM)
after AV fair kok.. my fren is busy for av fair now.
he already agree that we have our mini sonus faber fan club gathering at his shop.
no we don't. but i was intended to hold a sonus faber gathering at hifi shop.
talking around. and ask shares some do and dont's on the sonus setup. =)
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Good news indeed PcWork! Now, if we could get 4-5 different amps to test drive the speakers... hmm.gif
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would love to join the tt section too smile.gif

but not owner of SF tho
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post Jul 30 2008, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(xtorm @ Jul 28 2008, 12:00 AM)
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can i bring a moded unison research simply 4 to your house to test out those beauty? tongue.gif but sonus faber needs good wattage right?
cunrrently paired with Opera Callas
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what exactly do you mean by moded? Don't want the amp to spoil/damage the speakers. Assuming it's driving the Operas with no problem at all, then it's fine, yes?

SF needs good current nod.gif


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been runing the callas for few months edi without issue...

but i dun think it can drive yours properly..sad.gif

moded by my father to 1 valve only each side instead of 2, need to be driven by a preamp

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