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car_o_scope
post Jul 11 2008, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(wkfoong @ Jul 11 2008, 12:19 AM)

BTW, the KAV-400xi is a good match with the SF Concerto Domus and Grand Piano Domus.  biggrin.gif
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Bro,

Your system very very 'geng' leh.. Really dunno what it sounds like. I also dreaming of owning a Krell but I will probably aim at 300i coz no budget.. cry.gif
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post Jul 22 2008, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(grandspy @ Jul 22 2008, 12:18 AM)
wkfoong, thanks for the info.
If I were to go for Krell, I shall need to find a used unit. Anyone selling?  biggrin.gif
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One unit of used 400xi can be found in Blogspot. One unit of used 300i can be found at The Star Audiophile section. Forgot the price.. Hope it helps.. smile.gif
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post Aug 1 2008, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(wkfoong @ Jul 31 2008, 01:27 AM)
It's actually RM9900, to be exact.


Added on July 31, 2008, 1:39 am

I know someone who may want to let go a KAV-400xi for RM7k. 18 months old, mint condition (9/10), complete with box and manual.
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How I wish to have the amount of cash to grab it and a pair of Sonus.. cry.gif
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post Aug 1 2008, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Aug 1 2008, 12:55 PM)
i tested krell. not sure which model. but it's intergrated in perfect hifi.
pair with my own pair of SFCD. seriously nice.
speed. transparencies. smooth is top notch i ever heard from my own speaker.
the only amp that i like more than the krell is audio research. it's matching my personal taste more.
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post Aug 2 2008, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Aug 2 2008, 10:41 AM)
eh, if there's a s/hand Krell KAV-300i going around .. might you guys be interested ?

(no, I ain't selling mine!)
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There is a 2nd hand unit? How much will it cost? Bro, can let me know the price? See whether my bullets enough or not.
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post Aug 2 2008, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Aug 2 2008, 02:13 PM)
i said "if".... tongue.gif
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post Aug 5 2008, 10:15 AM

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Is SF standmounters good in bass? I have gone through some of the specs of the Domus. The Concertino's frequency response can reach until 50Hz while the Concerto can reach as low as 35Hz. Well, the diff of 15Hz is quite huge. Same goes to the prices, I bet. laugh.gif
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post Aug 6 2008, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Aug 5 2008, 08:42 PM)
paper specs very misleading. Alot of other factors come into play like front or rear facing bass-reflex ports, height of the stands, distance from back wall, room conditions...etc.

dont forget amp capability too ....

thats why it's best if u can audition in your own listening enviro.
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I see.. I have been reading some webpages and many said that a square room is not good. That's one of the issues I have. I even think that given the size of my room, I can hardly get a pair of floorstanders such as Concerto D.

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post Aug 9 2008, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(auronthas @ Aug 9 2008, 03:46 PM)
Today i have a chance to make audition with Ayre AX-7E and Krell KAV 400xi int. amp pair with Canton speaker with Jazz music.

Here's my feedback and review

Ayre - bright, detail, but it's not my taste and finding it stress my ears after long hour listening.

Krell - warm, depth, tonal clarity, i am able to distingush various music instruments, very comfortable listening.

Cheers.
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Bro, you really had a great time auditioning them. thumbup.gif When will you bring the Krell home?
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post Aug 11 2008, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Aug 11 2008, 07:41 PM)
Well bro, thats just one event.

But  when I see a KAV-400 stacked amongst the other junk at some place like Hi-Way laser (for example).....  jatuh standard lah.
Not that I have anything against Hi-Way (i'm actually a Hi-Way supporter and have  bought a lot of HT and Plasma other stuff from them).

Its just that generally the retail image of Krell is being presented very POORLY in KL (or Malaysia even?). The new agents should really do something about it, unless they are just contended with low/mid-class hifi sundryshops peddling Krells.

Whilst its true that Krell does not depend on retail frontage alone to sell, but the presentation is equally if not more important for a high-end brand like Krell.

Even that Taiwanese speaker brand USHER gets a decent dress-job and presentation by CMY.

Shame-shame on the current Krell distis.
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I guess you are trying to say that there should be a nice shop selling Krells in KL. laugh.gif
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post Sep 15 2008, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Sep 15 2008, 07:59 PM)
I wonder what is second hand price for Sonus Faber Concertino Home ?

Is more than RM2.4k worth it?
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There is one pair of Concertino (Domus) in hifi4sale.blogspot.com.


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post Sep 15 2008, 09:13 PM

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Are Sonus Fabers cheaper across the causeway? It seems that there are tonnes of Hi Fi stuffs there and they are cheaper. drool.gif
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post Sep 15 2008, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Sep 15 2008, 09:28 PM)
If you have the budget, by all means go for Sonus Farber. The sound is very nice, even pair it with budget intergrated amp. 
Kns PcWork poison me lol  laugh.gif
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At least their poisons have guided you to happiness. laugh.gif
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post Sep 17 2008, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Sep 17 2008, 09:13 PM)
10K amp pair with 4k speaker + good cdp + DAC  doh.gif

30K to make it sing?
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To me, I have to invest one component by one component. sweat.gif
If one shot buy all, sure pengsan..
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post Sep 21 2008, 06:28 PM

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Just wanna ask few questions...

Would you guys consider buying 2nd hand Amplifier to drive your wonderful Sonus Fabers?

So scared of those modified units that are being sold.. Do you think there is a high probability in falling into such trap? sweat.gif
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post Sep 22 2008, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 21 2008, 08:25 PM)
Guys,
It is important we should actually listen to the Sonus Faber loudspeakers in proper setups rather than merely relying on others' opinion in this forum or some reviews in audio magazines alone.

IMO, second hand amplifiers are generally fine with me but I may not be able to accept those units which have been repaired/modded before. When we are buying second hand amplifiers or other used gears, Caveat Emptor wink.gif
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I do not know how to check or detect whether the unit has been modified.

I would not realise that the sound is not original.

Getting a new unit will cost a bomb. sweat.gif
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post Sep 22 2008, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(Y.C. @ Sep 22 2008, 05:55 PM)
Go by the equipment's outer general appearance, whether screws have been opened up before and etc. As a general rule, avoid amplifiers which are too old as the need to re-cap them may arise.

You should be able to tell from the sound you are hearing vs sound of the same amplifier brand new. If you cannot tell them apart, why the need to buy that particular amplifier? For brand name sake? I never subscribe to such belief.

Bottomline, trust your eyes, ears and instinct. Happy hunting and enjoy the music.  tongue.gif
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Yup. I have shortlisted some brands.

Anyhow, I am not going to get one in a hurry.

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post Sep 24 2008, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(mugenfoo @ Sep 24 2008, 06:51 PM)
yup.. for example: a good partner to the Concertino Domus/ Home would be like a present day model Exposure Integrated Amp.

Using anything less than something in the Exposure's class would be an insult to the SonusFaber, but a RM15K amp would be serious overkill.

Of course, "overkill" is better than "insult", if one must choose between the 2 scenarios.
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Exposure XX is good enough to get the good tunes out of Concertino Domus / Home?
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post Sep 24 2008, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(TarePanda @ Sep 24 2008, 09:27 PM)
Currently finding an second hand amp for soon-to-be mine concertino home...

NAD. Marantz, Exposure, etc?

Don't ask me to try it 1st coz it's 2nd hand blush.gif

Or any brand as long as it's >100w?
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Bro, must more than 100W ah?
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post Sep 24 2008, 10:34 PM

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I have not driven a pair of Sonus Concertino Domus with my Exposure XX but I can feel that it will not be able to expose the real abilities of the Sonus. sweat.gif

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