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LagunaLoire
post Mar 19 2009, 02:20 PM

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happened to me too. pisses me off everytime my nice panel lines get smudged when i topcoat.

i usually dab my cleaning cloth with some tamiya thinner and rub to get rid of the topcoat on the smudged part. after repanel-line then respray.

on a different note i believe tamiya thinner works on topcoat frosting too.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 19 2009, 01:35 PM)
Tha compressor has an air tank. But very small one just for 8 second buffer don't know if you can count it as airtank. The compressor has auto on/off function by monitoring pressure in the airtank.

The one i used that splurts is basic dual action top loaded. The Gunze Sangyo pro-spray mk-iii i posted is the one i plan to use but connectors don't fit. I don't remember having much splurt on the Gunze last time i used it, just require more paint and u need minimum level of paint for it to work efficiently, but no problem since you can just remove the container and store it away. Also you can change paint nozzle size easily and you can move the paint nozzle closer/further from the air nozzle.

Initially wanted to get the compressor with a 1L airtank but my friend ask me to try this out. Well really didn't expect the airtank to be so small. Was thinking of getting one of those capsule shape air tank but i don't know what kind of connection it takes the connection is really a problem. Any good recommendations? The connector adapter are not cheap.
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But I don't see any tank at your compressor. Are you counting the air filter water trap as a tank? You can modify by add in the tank only with connect using hose to the compressor. Not really that difficult with all this connector and connection. But I m not sure where got consumer type hardware shop which specially in pneumatic.

Check you AB needle got bend or not. Specially the sharp side. If bend, you need an oil stone to sharp it back.

No problem for the AB connector side. Just need an adaptor to standardize it and use one type hose.


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post Mar 19 2009, 03:17 PM

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ah i'm so confused with so many connector size & shapes. How do i check what i got? any names or terms?


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post Mar 19 2009, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 19 2009, 03:17 PM)
ah i'm so confused with so many connector size & shapes. How do i check what i got? any names or terms?
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One of my idea is, the AB connector remain at your AB. Cut the air hose 50mm - 100mm from your AB connector. Joint an adaptor with a standardize hose. Do this with another AB. Than you can exchange your AB easlly.

Another way is, use a Y joint to branch out another hose for your AB. Than you have 2 different size hose to your 2 AB. You need to find out what is your connector and hose size. Either in inch or mm. rclxub.gif

Hope not too technically explanation to you. sweat.gif Cause this thing is industrial parts.

Update. Some picture for you to understand more
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This post has been edited by ozak: Mar 19 2009, 07:38 PM
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post Mar 19 2009, 04:39 PM

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Guys, need some guidance here. I am wondering, the stickers/decals placed on the gundam are quite visible to looked at. Anyway to hide them even more? Would top coat help and normally what do you guys use as a top coat? Where can i find them? Is clear paint = top coat? Thanks.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 19 2009, 01:35 PM)
Tha compressor has an air tank. But very small one just for 8 second buffer don't know if you can count it as airtank. The compressor has auto on/off function by monitoring pressure in the airtank.

The one i used that splurts is basic dual action top loaded. The Gunze Sangyo pro-spray mk-iii i posted is the one i plan to use but connectors don't fit. I don't remember having much splurt on the Gunze last time i used it, just require more paint and u need minimum level of paint for it to work efficiently, but no problem since you can just remove the container and store it away. Also you can change paint nozzle size easily and you can move the paint nozzle closer/further from the air nozzle.
actually i oso kinda confused now by ur post tongue.gif
well... it's much easir to see wat u have in actual rather than seeing photos.
i can only think of changing the connector on the gunze handpiece to the one of ur external mix handpiece.
if that is interchangeable.
(there is one connector on the handpiece, and another one on the hose. i'm assuming like this:
gunze handpiece + connector A + hose connector X
external mix handpiece + connector B + hose connector Y

so what u can do is try fixing the connector B  on the gunze handpiece and use the hose connector Y



Initially wanted to get the compressor with a 1L airtank but my friend ask me to try this out. Well really didn't expect the airtank to be so small. Was thinking of getting one of those capsule shape air tank but i don't know what kind of connection it takes the connection is really a problem. Any good recommendations? The connector adapter are not cheap.


alternatively, bring the whole set to a hardware shop that sells air compressor and see if the boss there can help u out with the their available connector and hose.
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QUOTE(LagunaLoire @ Mar 19 2009, 02:20 PM)
happened to me too. pisses me off everytime my nice panel lines get smudged when i topcoat.

i usually dab my cleaning cloth with some tamiya thinner and rub to get rid of the topcoat on the smudged part. after repanel-line then respray.
i think tamiya thinner still remove significant amount of ur painted surface.
try zippo, if it can remove the ink, then good smile.gif
if can, u may wanna try enamel paint wash over acrylic/lacquer.


on a different note i believe tamiya thinner works on topcoat frosting too.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 19 2009, 04:39 PM)
Guys, need some guidance here. I am wondering, the stickers/decals placed on the gundam are quite visible to looked at. Anyway to hide them even more? Would top coat help and normally what do you guys use as a top coat? Where can i find them? Is clear paint = top coat? Thanks.
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for waterslide decals...i've posted how to do that previously, read that.

for stickers, can't do much there. because basically stickers are pretty thick (compared to dry transfers and waterslide). in fact...the thickness is like this...dry transfer (thin), waterslide (medium), stickers (thick). because of this thickness, most modellers usually dun use the stickers. i know of a "master" that occassionally uses stickers especially those "caution" stickers which are rectangle.

the only way to make stickers less obvious... LOT AND LOTS of topcoat.as each layer of topcoat will slowly build up thickness. multiple topcoats will sooner or later cover up the stickers. once it's covered the sticker (with some spare layers), wet sand the kit. this is to even out the topcoat. reason being...ur sticker area will also have topcoats..so it'll be a micro bulge/lump there. so u need to wet sand down the topcoat to even out the surface. then polish the kit. followed by flat coat to ur preference

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Do they sell decals for Patlabor? It comes with some dry transfer but like you said those warning stuff only comes in stickers.

Also what's the difference wet sand and normal sanding?

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post Mar 20 2009, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(davelcm @ Mar 19 2009, 07:03 PM)
for waterslide decals...i've posted how to do that previously, read that.

for stickers, can't do much there. because basically stickers are pretty thick (compared to dry transfers and waterslide). in fact...the thickness is like this...dry transfer (thin), waterslide (medium), stickers (thick). because of this thickness, most modellers usually dun use the stickers. i know of a "master" that occassionally uses stickers especially those "caution" stickers which are rectangle.

the only way to make stickers less obvious... LOT AND LOTS of topcoat.as each layer of topcoat will slowly build up thickness. multiple topcoats will sooner or later cover up the stickers. once it's covered the sticker (with some spare layers), wet sand the kit. this is to even out the topcoat. reason being...ur sticker area will also have topcoats..so it'll be a micro bulge/lump there. so u need to wet sand down the topcoat to even out the surface. then polish the kit. followed by flat coat to ur preference
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Wow, so there isnt any "easier" way to hide those stickers huh. Guess i have to live with that then. THanks for the tip there. smile.gif
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post Mar 20 2009, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(akachester @ Mar 20 2009, 10:09 AM)
Wow, so there isnt any "easier" way to hide those stickers huh. Guess i have to live with that then. THanks for the tip there. smile.gif
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if u have any paint peel off, compare the thickness of the peeled paint with ur gundam sticker. it's way much thicker than the paint.
no way to hide the sticker under the paint without ugly thick coat of topcoats sad.gif
u can trim off the transparent edge, the sticker will be less obvious.. but no.. it will STILL be visible still as stickers.. only less obvious tongue.gif


Added on March 20, 2009, 11:48 am
QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 19 2009, 11:44 PM)
Do they sell decals for Patlabor? It comes with some dry transfer but like you said those warning stuff only comes in stickers.

Also what's the difference wet sand and normal sanding?
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I'm afraid there isn't any commercial one, unless u custom make ur own.
wet sanding is sanding with water, lesser friction and dust.
usually it's much easier to wet sand, less clogging of sandpaper and less heavy "scratches"..
normal sanding.. just sanding straightaway with sandpaper..


Added on March 20, 2009, 11:50 amozak...
where did u get the hose reducers adaptor and the open/close valve??
looks convenient ler...


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post Mar 22 2009, 05:33 PM

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Something I wanted to ask for long time, how do toy manufacturere's paint those lively eyes? Hand paint, robot paint or use a sticker?

I think painting eye's the hardest.

How do modellers do that? Now I have no idea how to paint my 1/35 Patlabor human figures they are so small I don't have any clue how to paint other than try my best to pock a dot in the iris.
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maybe u can refer this wip, i'm currently doing it still
http://plamo.outthere.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=4863
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question about polishing compound...

does there any local shop sell this at all?
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post Mar 23 2009, 12:12 PM

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MH got mah.. but now u have to wait until mid apr before they back to operation.
alernatively, TU at 1U new wing basement 2nd.
or HHQ.
get tamiya coarse, fine, finishing, and tamiya wax for extra shine.
easy to use and easy to get.
but sometimes stocking might be bit sweat.gif
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HHQ dont have rite
last time i been there cannot find it also
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Mar 23 2009, 12:34 PM)
HHQ dont have rite
last time i been there cannot find it also
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most probably.. they mostly cater stuffs for planes guys.. sweat.gif
i remember MH got before they close down last 2 weeks ago hmm.gif
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will try see at 1U one first

what time HHQ close and open anyway? i need to update the toy list thread
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ask davelcm. he knows better... hehehe..
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HHQ stocks polishing compound once a while, if u want...will need to ask Mr Low to bring it in for u.

Another option, if you're not polishing car kits, is to use...Colgate! the white paste type. Better yet, the one cater for smokers. I think Darlie oso can use. Again, not those clear gel type. The traditional white paste type...

Shop hours for HHQ...Monday to Saturday: 11am to 6pm. But usually Low will open around 11.30am to 12pm. Closing time...normally between 6 to 7pm. Sundays open occassionally but better not risk it. Only people who go and ask "tomorrow got open ar?" will know if he does.

Lunch time he's around but occassionally...he'll be out either in the coffee shop in the block behind or at the indian shop down the road. Especially if got regulars askin him go yumcha/lunch.
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but the toothpaste polishing won't make ur thing bling bling.. i think the mesh grit is equivalent to around 1200-1500 only if i'm not mistaken.
the finishing is something smooth satin.. not shiny one oh...

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