Perodua Nautica 4WD, 1500 CC lauching May
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Hi Guys,
Anyone know anything about the new Nautica 4WD lauching this May? Anyone got photos or price list ?   This is the model look like when it launch tis may  http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...9401&sec=nation This post has been edited by pooh88: Apr 25 2008, 08:58 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 24 2008, 11:42 AM
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Seems to me like the new Kembara.
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Important is the pricing whether is attractive or not?
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Apr 24 2008, 12:07 PM
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Perodua Nautica... interesting name they have there ...
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Apr 24 2008, 12:12 PM
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4WD... hmm... smaller market.... coz should drink petrol and the tyre is expensive... waiting for mpv from P2..
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Apr 24 2008, 12:45 PM
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what da heck 'nautica'?
is it can submerge or travels in nautica knots? lol |
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Apr 24 2008, 12:58 PM
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the revolution of name
kancil/kelisa >>> viva? ehe |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:11 PM
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woohoo.. our local product to combat the Toyota Rush... anyone seen the car yet? i'd be damn disappointed if it looks exactly like a Rush.. considering Daihatsu is now owned by Toyota...
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Apr 24 2008, 01:41 PM
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the website still not up yet ...better quick quick go hijack it..hehe
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Apr 24 2008, 01:43 PM
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is the new kembara.
i think can search the spyshots in this forum and price if im not wrong, more expensive than rush coz fully imported. |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:43 PM
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it is a short wheel base RUSH, 5 seater compared to rush 7 seater. but in 4wd mode.
Price starts from RM80k. so it is expensive compared to rush, but quality wise, should be better in terms of interior trim coz its in black. and CBU from Japan. |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:44 PM
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its a Rav4 wanna be mar, pricing should be competitive? But 1.5cc, a first for P2 also
 so how wld they price it, since their Myvi 1.3cc already 53K.....  auto & price of 4wd tyresnot a good sign...  good luck.....  This post has been edited by mydelsol: Apr 24 2008, 02:12 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:46 PM
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most probably the same with daihatsu terios...maybe change a little here and there like other perodua's products
http://www.daihatsu.com/catalogue/terios/index.html |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:49 PM
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finally the kembara replacement model is out soon.
btw, this rush sourced small suv is slightly different with the rush due to it's 4wd drivetrain. i heard that only 1.5 auto version will be available. since it's 4wd, the price prolly' as mush as rush. |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:50 PM
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hope it doesnt underpowered like the kembara..
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Apr 24 2008, 01:51 PM
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Anybody got any picture or anybody working in the assembler plant
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Apr 24 2008, 01:55 PM
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How much does RUSH cost here now??
Hope it got better FC than the old Kembara  |
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Apr 24 2008, 01:58 PM
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i can tsee any pic on that link...anyone can show me??
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Apr 24 2008, 02:03 PM
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Apr 24 2008, 02:05 PM
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it is not assemble here, its a CBU from Japan. No changes, everything is a Daihatsu Be-Go except the D badge is replaced by P badge. thats about it.
above is just artist impression. it should look similar to this:  This post has been edited by mockv1per: Apr 24 2008, 02:08 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(adriankhoo153 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:03 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « g]  yea.. the URL provided in the newspapers is not up yet... |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 24 2008, 02:05 PM) it is not assemble here, its a CBU from Japan. No changes, everything is a Daihatsu Terios except the D badge is replaced by P badge. thats about it. Really? CBU from Japan? That's gonna jack up the price a little, dun ya think?  |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:10 PM
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  courtesy of lowyat wheels Added on April 24, 2008, 2:12 pmmy bad, on second thought, i think its a rush.. :/ but paultan had a post of the new nautica under the covers sometime back. offers no clear pictures paultan.org/archives/2008/04/02/new-kembara-replacement-perodua-suv-spotted/ This post has been edited by analyzer85: Apr 24 2008, 02:12 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:13 PM
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Perodua this time is acting smart by getting the CBU version of a niche 4WD model instead of assemble them.
2009 looks like another interesting year for perodua, apart of their supposed MPV, there another new model for viva owners to upgrade. What's model will it be remains a ques here. |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 02:07 PM) Really? CBU from Japan? That's gonna jack up the price a little, dun ya think? currently the Rush is about RM86K, so imagine how much the Nautica gonna be priced at?summore CBU, Japan sure bor?..think Indonesia more like it.... 70K anyone? |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:26 PM
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here you go...this is the 2oo8 Nautica in black.
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Apr 24 2008, 02:28 PM
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if p2 prices this car >60k, it'll be their most expensive model yet.
my guess, if they had to replace the kembara with a CBU, it should be between 55-65K.. rm70k is probably way above their intended consumer market... notice how toyota seems to be bringing in CBU cars nowadays instead of CKD kits? e.g. toyota camry.. used to be locally assembled now buying from thailand.. y is it so eh? have to wait 4-6months to get the car some more.. |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:29 PM
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that looks like a Rush to me.. so they gonna say, "Looks like a Rush, sounds like a Rush... but it's not a Rush... it's a Nautica!"
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Apr 24 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:28 PM) if p2 prices this car >60k, it'll be their most expensive model yet. but sadly u cant get it at RM55k. it will be more than RM85k. if it is RM55k, it is the cheapest SUV CBU available today from Japan. Its a 4wd, equipped better than a Rush, interior looks better than Rush, but its only 5 seater.my guess, if they had to replace the kembara with a CBU, it should be between 55-65K.. rm70k is probably way above their intended consumer market... notice how toyota seems to be bringing in CBU cars nowadays instead of CKD kits? e.g. toyota camry.. used to be locally assembled now buying from thailand.. y is it so eh? have to wait 4-6months to get the car some more.. |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:28 PM) notice how toyota seems to be bringing in CBU cars nowadays instead of CKD kits? e.g. toyota camry.. used to be locally assembled now buying from thailand.. y is it so eh? have to wait 4-6months to get the car some more.. This is becoz Toyota Japan has lost all faith with UMW Toyota... UMW keep on screwing up when they assemble CKD Toyotas... The previous Vios engine fiasco really pissed off Toyota Japan...Added on April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 24 2008, 02:29 PM) that looks like a Rush to me.. so they gonna say, "Looks like a Rush, sounds like a Rush... but it's not a Rush... it's a Nautica!" Toyota Rush owners are gonna cry bloody murder at this one...This post has been edited by Vanquish: Apr 24 2008, 02:34 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 02:32 PM) Added on April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm Toyota Rush owners are gonna cry bloody murder at this one...  |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:44 PM
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if it's above rm80k, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of buying a p2? i thought the whole idea of a p2 is so that it's cheap? hmm.. if that's the case, 4WD are now supposily classed above the average sedan car?
no more cheap 4WD for off-roading QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 02:32 PM) This is becoz Toyota Japan has lost all faith with UMW Toyota... UMW keep on screwing up when they assemble CKD Toyotas... The previous Vios engine fiasco really pissed off Toyota Japan... care to enlighten me on the Vios engine thing? i didn't hear about it. all i know was that toyota was doing well in terms of sales as both my parents bought a toyota and it was delivered within 2 weeks. now all models would have a waiting period more than 1 month at the very least.it's a pity they don't have CKD kits for the Camry. Honda is going to make a killing with the new Accord as I understand that the CKD kits are being assembled in Honda's Alor Gajah assembly plant. Somehow though, the 2.4 accord is more expensive than the 2.4 camry. :/.. the previous generation camry was a great selling car, and sales were good since ppl didn't have to wait long for the car. now, it's kind of a let down that ppl have to wait so long for a camry.. sorry, slightly off topic here but nevertheless, since the nautica is a CBU unit, let's hope they price it better and not have a waiting list of 6-8months... and i don't think the nautica is gonna be a replica of the rush.. that's just stupid if toyota were to allow that to happen.. |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(mydelsol @ Apr 24 2008, 02:38 PM) Cant agree more with this, kesian the current Rush owners, how to sell after 1 year or so... And imagine the sheer potong stim-ness when people mistaken ur Toyota Rush as a Perodua Nautica..."Hey, nice Perodua u got there..." "... It's a Toyota Rush..." "Riiiiiiiight..." "........." |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:47 PM
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not to mention body kits made for nautica to rush conversion.. lol
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Apr 24 2008, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:44 PM) care to enlighten me on the Vios engine thing? i didn't hear about it. The first batch of the Vios 1.5L VVT-i engine had some major QC problems... The engines weren't put together with care, I can't quite remember what the exact problem was but it has something to do with the VVT-i activation system...When Toyota Japan found out about this... They ordered UMW Toyota to cease production of the 1.5L engine, and instructed Toyota Thailand to supply the engines to UMW... |
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Apr 24 2008, 02:53 PM
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gosh the nautica is that exp arh??
 ...better go for rush lol..  ...the badge is better.. This post has been edited by sucka3: Apr 24 2008, 02:54 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 02:32 PM) This is becoz Toyota Japan has lost all faith with UMW Toyota... UMW keep on screwing up when they assemble CKD Toyotas... The previous Vios engine fiasco really pissed off Toyota Japan... yea.. i heard about that problem with UMW.. hopefully Toyota takes back the distribution! Added on April 24, 2008, 2:34 pm Toyota Rush owners are gonna cry bloody murder at this one... yep.. this will definitely affect their resale values.. luckily didn't buy Rush... if not end up losing more! |
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 02:51 PM) The first batch of the Vios 1.5L VVT-i engine had some major QC problems... The engines weren't put together with care, I can't quite remember what the exact problem was but it has something to do with the VVT-i activation system... i didn't know UMW were constructing engines locally.. hmm.. but i do know of the problems they had when the were assembling the first batch of avanzas'... my cousin was working for this engineering firm that was to maintain the machines used to make the body panels. it seems the japanese QC managers were very unhappy since alot of these panels failed QC inspections and whole lot of it was rejected. that was why the avanza had a long waiting list and also held up the assembly of the MyVi's...When Toyota Japan found out about this... They ordered UMW Toyota to cease production of the 1.5L engine, and instructed Toyota Thailand to supply the engines to UMW... long story short, the QC inspection managers from japan "re-engineered" the assembly plant where this body panels were made.. the entire processed was reviewed because it failed QC inspections i guess this is why your are paying so much for a toyota |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 24 2008, 03:04 PM) i didn't know UMW were constructing engines locally.. hmm.. but i do know of the problems they had when the were assembling the first batch of avanzas'... my cousin was working for this engineering firm that was to maintain the machines used to make the body panels. it seems the japanese QC managers were very unhappy since alot of these panels failed QC inspections and whole lot of it was rejected. that was why the avanza had a long waiting list and also held up the assembly of the MyVi's... UMW weren't constructing engines, they were merely assembling the knocked-down engine kits... And can you imagine that they even screw up assembling the engine together... long story short, the QC inspection managers from japan "re-engineered" the assembly plant where this body panels were made.. the entire processed was reviewed because it failed QC inspections i guess this is why your are paying so much for a toyota  |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:14 PM
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it looks really neat. hope it performs well too.
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Apr 24 2008, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 03:10 PM) UMW weren't constructing engines, they were merely assembling the knocked-down engine kits... And can you imagine that they even screw up assembling the engine together... spot on bru...i c a rush cum rav4 copycat... |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:43 PM
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looks like
terios headlamps wif myvi's steering i tot they would really come out wif myvi's headlamp |
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Apr 24 2008, 03:46 PM
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i remember the MD of perodua saying that there target sales for this car is not much, cant remember the figure. This will roughly tell you at what level the car will be priced at. Surely it will be the most expensive perodua model.
Lets hope that, because of the badge, the price can be lowered a lot if compared to a toyota badged cbu version. In my opinion thats the only positive thing that can be achived here  |
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Apr 24 2008, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(analyzer85 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:44 PM) if it's above rm80k, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of buying a p2? i thought the whole idea of a p2 is so that it's cheap? hmm.. if that's the case, 4WD are now supposily classed above the average sedan car? It is not true 4WD... more like AWD... Toyotas that are able to to true Full-Time 4WD are the Fortuner, Surf, Prado and Landcruisers. No low gear ratios... and probably no lock down to allow equal distributions to all wheels. The dual cabs are only capable of 4WD during off-roading, 2wd on tar..no more cheap 4WD for off-roading 5 seater, awd Rush retails about 55 to 60k in japan. This post has been edited by BeastX: Apr 24 2008, 04:27 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:11 PM
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Yeah.. Looks great =D Can't wait to hear how attractive the price would be. Anyway it's a "nauti" car
Naughty-car? I wonder what do people do inside the car.  |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:38 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 24 2008, 01:43 PM) it is a short wheel base RUSH, 5 seater compared to rush 7 seater. but in 4wd mode. Black colour denotes quality? Price starts from RM80k. so it is expensive compared to rush, but quality wise, should be better in terms of interior trim coz its in black. and CBU from Japan. |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:45 PM
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wahh...how many nautiqa??? huhu |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:47 PM
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if it was really a CBU, price could be well within the rush's range.
somemore, this nautica supposed to be a 4wd instead of fwd like the rush. |
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Apr 24 2008, 05:53 PM
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80k for a 5 seaters car is not worth it...
only 1.5cc plus 4wd better buy city for the best fc This post has been edited by ! Love Money: Apr 24 2008, 05:55 PM |
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Apr 24 2008, 06:56 PM
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the price will b less than 70k for normal spec
maybe higher spec may go up to 80k+ |
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Apr 24 2008, 07:14 PM
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Nautica? Can go on water ah?
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Apr 24 2008, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 03:10 PM) UMW weren't constructing engines, they were merely assembling the knocked-down engine kits... And can you imagine that they even screw up assembling the engine together... ai .. they need to pay more video games so they more control on thier hands .lol QUOTE(iman_210 @ Apr 24 2008, 03:20 PM) spot on bru...i c a rush cum rav4 copycat... that can never be . |
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Apr 24 2008, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 24 2008, 07:15 PM) ai .. they need to pay more video games so they more control on thier hands .lol You said it can never be becoz u're driving a RAV4... that can never be . |
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If perodua car cost more than 80K.
I won't think the demand won't be that gd By rite Perodua should come out model like Myvi or Viva Price range ma This post has been edited by pooh88: Apr 25 2008, 09:03 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Apr 25 2008, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 07:49 PM) You said it can never be becoz u're driving a RAV4... used to . i mean ... imagine the perodua with a gt-4 engine inside .... |
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 25 2008, 10:29 AM) used to . i mean ... imagine the perodua with a gt-4 engine inside .... they'll b very amazing thenheard myfm hav start advertising of perdua nautica coming out naughty gal? hehe |
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Apr 25 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(Vanquish @ Apr 24 2008, 07:49 PM) You said it can never be becoz u're driving a RAV4... ppl upgraded to Wish liao... her RAV4 is her market car i still say the Nautica looks like a Rush... can't see any differentiation.. they might as well release an "peroduaize" an avanza while they are at it... |
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Apr 25 2008, 10:20 AM
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agreed, the real toyota rush onwers will scream bloody murder
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Apr 25 2008, 11:29 AM
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LoL
tulan tulan tulan .. Rush Price with Nautica. fark lo. |
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Apr 25 2008, 11:32 AM
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i think it looked like toyota rush too...
anyway..cheers to perodua for having the 1st car above 1300cc!! This post has been edited by putramon: Apr 25 2008, 11:33 AM |
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Apr 25 2008, 11:34 AM
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Another 2 years before I can buy a replacement.... for my trusty Kembara
I was looking forward to the Kembara replacement and to the folks who purchased a Toyota Rush and screaming bloody murder tough luck for not doing any research duh!News of a Kembara replacement using the current Be-Go platform has been going about for more tha a year already For those who are not screaming, enjoy your rides... |
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Apr 25 2008, 11:37 AM
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RUSH 90k
- 2WD - 7 seater - people will think u are driving a perodua NaughtyCar (lets say 70k) - 4wd - 5 seater - can pass off as rush |
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Apr 25 2008, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 10:09 AM) ppl upgraded to Wish liao... her RAV4 is her market car i`ll say the rush is a fortuner with a nose job .. lol .. as for the nautica .. well they need a better name ...i still say the Nautica looks like a Rush... can't see any differentiation.. they might as well release an "peroduaize" an avanza while they are at it... |
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Apr 25 2008, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(putramon @ Apr 25 2008, 12:32 PM) i think it looked like toyota rush too... i think kembara ever comes out a batch wif 1500ccanyway..cheers to perodua for having the 1st car above 1300cc!! but complained by proton so discontinued |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 25 2008, 11:47 AM) i`ll say the rush is a fortuner with a nose job .. lol .. as for the nautica .. well they need a better name ... you've missed out the slimming program that the Rush has gone through... small petite size and er.. definitely smaller heart in the bonnet... oh yea, lost the 4WD transaxle as well... so more than a nose job.. more like a slim job.. hahahayeap, agreed.. nautica should not be a suitable name.. they've been doing so well with the small animal names.. why suddenly nautica? sounds like that clothing label |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 12:03 PM) you've missed out the slimming program that the Rush has gone through... small petite size and er.. definitely smaller heart in the bonnet... oh yea, lost the 4WD transaxle as well... so more than a nose job.. more like a slim job.. hahaha should have named it the nautilus after captain nemo`s submarine then .lol yeap, agreed.. nautica should not be a suitable name.. they've been doing so well with the small animal names.. why suddenly nautica? sounds like that clothing label |
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Apart from the badges and some external styling being different the Rush is 7-seater which means it has a longer wheelbase which means from the side it would look longer than the nautica. As for the fc it's around 33.6mpg for the auto version which is not so bad..
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Apr 25 2008, 12:07 PM
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name it after an animal?
this time name it perodua badak? due to its huge size and height and road holding properties |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(manchild @ Apr 25 2008, 12:05 PM) Apart from the badges and some external styling being different the Rush is 7-seater which means it has a longer wheelbase which means from the side it would look longer than the nautica. As for the fc it's around 33.6mpg for the auto version which is not so bad.. yea.. i did a little more reading on paultan's website... it seems that the only difference between the nautica and the rush is that one is a 5 seater and the toyota model is a 7 seater... so much for differentiation...so by shortening the wheelbase and calling branding it under a different marque justifies a new car... i'm still thinking it's a rip off.. won't be much of a badak if it is a 5 seater... Added on April 25, 2008, 12:11 pm QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 25 2008, 12:04 PM) should have named it the nautilus after captain nemo`s submarine then .lol hahaha.. cannot.. after perodua kena sue for infringement.. trademark... but then again.. nautica is a brand name isn't it? so once again, it looks like a rush.. sounds like a rush.. but it's not a rush cause of it's shorter wheelbase.. This post has been edited by ston3r: Apr 25 2008, 12:11 PM |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:14 PM
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Perodua is totally losing the plot by releasing a 1.5litre and RM80k car.
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Apr 25 2008, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 25 2008, 12:07 PM) name it after an animal? remdins me of the rhino tank in gta:sa.lolthis time name it perodua badak? due to its huge size and height and road holding properties |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(blinky @ Apr 25 2008, 12:14 PM) Perodua is totally losing the plot by releasing a 1.5litre and RM80k car. agreed.. if they do this.. they will be heading into proton territory... but then again.. proton has been eating into perodua's territory by releasing the savvy... so i guess.. it's just a return smack-in-da-face to them.. I don't think they will last for long. |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:17 PM
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Perodua would be pretty stupid if they sell it above 80k coz the Rush is already that price and they get an extra row of seats plus the badge for re-selling purposes..
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Apr 25 2008, 12:19 PM
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lets see
maybe perodua can give the rush owners with some sense of value by taking out the airbags and abs for this new naughtycar 70k SUV without airbags and abs anyone?  |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 12:16 PM) agreed.. if they do this.. they will be heading into proton territory... but then again.. proton has been eating into perodua's territory by releasing the savvy... so i guess.. it's just a return smack-in-da-face to them.. The Nautica might be a good hype since this will be Perodua's first CBU car, first 1.5 litre and definitely first to have such a hefty price tag.But my question is, what happens next? Is the public supposed to expect Perodua to churn out 1.6 or even 1.8 litre cars? I think the public will. And will Perodua be able to deliver? This remains to be seen. I respected Perodua because they created a niche market for themselves. Compact, no frills, affordable and cute. Now they are moving into Proton's ground by releasing a 1.5litre, and even creating some ripples in the Toyota and Honda market for the RM80k price tag. The BIG BOYS didn't give much thought into conquering Perodua's land, because Perodua weren't threatening. They were just delivering to their small market, a market which the big boys didn't venture into. Now the plot has changed. So where will Perodua stand after the release of the Nautica? What will be their positioning? I don't know. But I can see it will be tough times ahead. This post has been edited by blinky: Apr 25 2008, 12:22 PM |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:21 PM
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Something funny. Malaysian car but cbu from Japan?
What is Perodua trying to do? So proud to called National car? This post has been edited by Azuma-kun: Apr 25 2008, 12:23 PM |
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Apr 25 2008, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Apr 25 2008, 12:21 PM) Something funny. Malaysian car but cbu from Japan? my thoughts precisely!What is Perodua trying to do? So proud to called National car? how can u have a CBU malaysian car??? it just does not make sense... if it is a CBU.. then it should be built in m'sia... not in the land of the rising sun... perodua is really losing the plot here....  |
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Apr 25 2008, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 25 2008, 11:37 AM) RUSH 90k - 2WD - 7 seater - people will think u are driving a perodua NaughtyCar (lets say 70k) - 4wd - 5 seater - can pass off as rush  |
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Apr 25 2008, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 12:26 PM) my thoughts precisely! So malaysian car is made in japan. Good job perodua.how can u have a CBU malaysian car??? it just does not make sense... if it is a CBU.. then it should be built in m'sia... not in the land of the rising sun... perodua is really losing the plot here.... U guys really rock. |
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Apr 25 2008, 01:26 PM
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I htink this natica will be in as a 2WD not a 4WD car.
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Apr 25 2008, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(blue.taxi @ Apr 25 2008, 01:26 PM) I htink this natica will be in as a 2WD not a 4WD car. It has already been confirmed that this will be a 4wd. |
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Apr 25 2008, 02:15 PM
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I hope Perodua won't be going the Kia Carnival way...first cbu from korea and then assembled here and rebadged as Naza Ria and sold more cheaply...there would be a lot of disgruntled people...
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Apr 25 2008, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(blinky @ Apr 25 2008, 12:20 PM) The Nautica might be a good hype since this will be Perodua's first CBU car, first 1.5 litre and definitely first to have such a hefty price tag. Agreed. Perodua bringing in CBU cars & rebadge it as their own, but I don't understand why are they doing that. Perodua did mentioned previously that it will be a low volume sale. It is understood that compact, no frills, and affordable is what they had been applying in the yesteryears but Perodua selling imported model?But my question is, what happens next? Is the public supposed to expect Perodua to churn out 1.6 or even 1.8 litre cars? I think the public will. And will Perodua be able to deliver? This remains to be seen. I respected Perodua because they created a niche market for themselves. Compact, no frills, affordable and cute. Now they are moving into Proton's ground by releasing a 1.5litre, and even creating some ripples in the Toyota and Honda market for the RM80k price tag. The BIG BOYS didn't give much thought into conquering Perodua's land, because Perodua weren't threatening. They were just delivering to their small market, a market which the big boys didn't venture into. Now the plot has changed. So where will Perodua stand after the release of the Nautica? What will be their positioning? I don't know. But I can see it will be tough times ahead. Is Perodua becoming a proxy for Toyota selling left-over that they couldn't sale? |
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Apr 25 2008, 04:20 PM
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lets hope its CBU quality with a more perodua price
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Apr 25 2008, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(nnpjj @ Apr 25 2008, 04:20 PM) lets hope its CBU quality with a more perodua price yah..hope quality come with very worth price |
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Apr 25 2008, 07:56 PM
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perodua start to make a wrong move
the car haven launch yet received so many complain |
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Apr 26 2008, 12:25 AM
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Toyota is playing dirty. They've introduced the Rush, people want it but too expensive. So its sibbling introduces this Nautika thingy. The same thing, shorter, slightly cheaper. People with less money will buy, and will change the emblem to toyota's for sure.
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Apr 26 2008, 12:28 AM
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lol..looks like toyota rush...
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Apr 26 2008, 01:08 AM
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hmm it seems that perodua has become the 'orang tengah' for toyota to bring in their models. A national car maker but sell CBU cars? where is the logic in that?
It seem that really toyota has perodua under their thumbs |
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Apr 26 2008, 01:07 PM
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dont forget P2 rebadge it from Daihatsu Be-go, and rename it Perodua Nautica.. and it will be price around rm80k, and it aint cheap.
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Apr 26 2008, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(haze @ Apr 26 2008, 01:08 AM) hmm it seems that perodua has become the 'orang tengah' for toyota to bring in their models. A national car maker but sell CBU cars? where is the logic in that? what is wrong with bringing in CBU cars? even proton juara also did that wat.It seem that really toyota has perodua under their thumbs |
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Apr 26 2008, 01:47 PM
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lol...its not the problem wif bringing in cbu cars...juz that i think it will cost more eventually
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Apr 26 2008, 01:52 PM
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Whats wrong is that it will increase the price of the car. it does not make sense if the car sells at 90k and higher priced than the toyota rush.
Even the Rush has benn taxed a lot so perodua selling it higher priced than the rush is can be seen as plain greed by perodua |
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Apr 26 2008, 06:09 PM
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what's the point of selling the same Perodua Nautica @ Toyota Rush in the M'sian market? it's still the same car right? if the price gap is lil, i doubt Perodua would be able to make profit from the sales.
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Apr 26 2008, 06:57 PM
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perdua selling CBU unit while toyota sell the CKD units
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Apr 26 2008, 07:49 PM
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Toyota Rush (based on Advanza platform/chassis/wheel base, with a rush like outer body/shell) is CBU from Indonesia which enjoy less tax (about 30% less).
A true Rush chassis (shorter wheel base) with AWD system CBU from Japan would be much better but much higher tax. |
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Apr 26 2008, 08:47 PM
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But rush can also sit 7 people, value for money...
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Apr 27 2008, 01:56 AM
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QUOTE(haze @ Apr 26 2008, 01:52 PM) Whats wrong is that it will increase the price of the car. it does not make sense if the car sells at 90k and higher priced than the toyota rush. Just wait and see, probably after a while Perodua might local assemble it and could be cheaper? That time the Rush/Terios may go for new generation.Even the Rush has benn taxed a lot so perodua selling it higher priced than the rush is can be seen as plain greed by perodua QUOTE(BeastX @ Apr 26 2008, 07:49 PM) Toyota Rush (based on Advanza platform/chassis/wheel base, with a rush like outer body/shell) is CBU from Indonesia which enjoy less tax (about 30% less). Actually the Toyota Rush that from Indonesia is same chasis with the Japanese Rush/Terios. Only with longer body to fit the third row of seat. Same as the old Terios(our Kembara) know as Daihatsu Taruna in Indonesia.A true Rush chassis (shorter wheel base) with AWD system CBU from Japan would be much better but much higher tax. The only things is the current Rush from Indonesia have lower tax due to AFTA. And the new Nautica is from Japan have difference tax structure. Added on April 27, 2008, 1:58 am QUOTE(tcting @ Apr 26 2008, 08:47 PM) But rush can also sit 7 people, value for money... and it also 300kg more heavy. the 1500cc engine is just too small to support it's weight.This post has been edited by zacevox: Apr 27 2008, 01:58 AM |
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Apr 27 2008, 02:13 AM
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Perodua has become the slave/servant of Toyota's imperialism. Indirect attack on the national car market if you ask me. CBU from a national car maker, it is a disturbing move considering the nature of the company. But who cares, capitalists wins !
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Apr 27 2008, 04:29 AM
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ppl nowadays usually look at badge,size,appearance when buying a car,what's underneath was not so significant from what i can see.
rush is base on avanza with prettier skins,it is an expensive way of buying an avanza,but ppl don't see that nautica is base on daihatsu terious,a car for british market,has different underpinning from the rush/avanza,has different drive system (4wd),different interior(exactly the one you get in terious),shorter wheelbase means will be nimbler arround town, but all in all ppl see the skin and forget the substantial. |
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Apr 27 2008, 08:42 AM
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I saw the staffs at the service centre are wearing the T-shirt to promote this 4WD.
http://www.theideal4wd.com.my/ This post has been edited by David83: Apr 27 2008, 09:07 AM |
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Apr 27 2008, 11:19 AM
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A real nice looking mini 4WD...
But the price tag... hmm... not something that I can afford without sacrificing monthly financial freedom. It seems like self-cannibalizing had just started. Forget about engineering marvel, the relationship between Toyota and UMW and Perodua seems like in a deep pool of murky water... Toyota Rush - 7 seater - 1.5l engine - Avanza Platform (Indon...keke) P2 Nautica - 5 seater - 1.5l engine - BeGo Platform (Nippon...oooh) Power to Weight ratio, P2 Nautica should win, logically speaking. But, if you are to resell your car, I believe a Toyota badge still worth more than a P2. Somehow, nowadays, selling your car is a losing game, no matter how much "more" you can sell. CBU would be a lil outrageous consider the status as a National Car maker. But I can see that miscommunication between Toyota and P2 would be their idea on the concept of branding. P2 thought that by having Daihatsu as the major stake holder and have importance in making corporate decision, they would uplift local automobile industry and contributes technologically. Somehow, to Daihatsu, their idea is to sell their car here with a different badge, like Honda with Acura and Toyota with Lexus. No qualms about it. If Fuji Heavy Industries are going to do the same with their Subaru here with a name like Macambaru, I would drool with the local price tag. I don't give a damn to the taxes. Automobile tax is like a complete crap to feed those fat tub of lard with some indecent cold hard cash. When local automobile maker source sponsorship or investment fund from various channel to come up with a proper R&D scheme and try to bring out a real local car, the custom just tax here and there on imports but never seen any of those easy money helps the local car industry to grow!!! Protecting the local automobile industry? My foot!!! Those who are taxing are the one who are buying imports TAX FREE. They sure got those nook and cranny but if those tax aren't bringing any benefit at all to the nation might as well scrap it and throw local automobile into the global market game. Enough of those, "we are not ready to swim in the big sea, noo....". In order to survive and to redeem oneself from humiliation, we can see a lot of miracles and outstanding figures came up with ideas and ways to restructure and at the same time will rear much TRUE UGLY FACES that will quit the car making game and beg from the Gov. I hope more of this CBU will come in and kill the local car industry. No point having em here when they are creating a lot of job opportunity, well, for foreigners !!! |
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Apr 27 2008, 11:07 PM
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job opportunity is for us all...malaysians..not foreigners lo...if more foreigners get d job here, i m not suprised to hear news regarding grads that were given scholarships from malaysian government to settle down in foreign countries and finding better opportunity than living like hell in own country
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Apr 28 2008, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 25 2008, 11:37 AM) RUSH 90k - 2WD - 7 seater - people will think u are driving a perodua NaughtyCar (lets say 70k) - 4wd - 5 seater - can pass off as rush  Hell yeah  QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 12:16 PM) agreed.. if they do this.. they will be heading into proton territory... but then again.. proton has been eating into perodua's territory by releasing the savvy... so i guess.. it's just a return smack-in-da-face to them.. P2 had a 1.5l car before it's a rarely seen Rusa QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 12:26 PM) my thoughts precisely! Personally the concept of a National Car is outmoded regardless of where it's assembled. It still doesn't disguise the fact the car isn't a 100% a Malaysia Boleh effort.how can u have a CBU malaysian car??? it just does not make sense... if it is a CBU.. then it should be built in m'sia... not in the land of the rising sun... perodua is really losing the plot here.... Stop kidding yourself QUOTE(blue.taxi @ Apr 25 2008, 01:26 PM) I htink this natica will be in as a 2WD not a 4WD car. It's 4WD otherwise most Kembara owners probably won't upgrade. No kidding Kembara owners actually do take their trusty P2 Kembara's off road lets see a Rush do that QUOTE(manchild @ Apr 25 2008, 02:15 PM) I hope Perodua won't be going the Kia Carnival way...first cbu from korea and then assembled here and rebadged as Naza Ria and sold more cheaply...there would be a lot of disgruntled people... Its typical early adopters should learn to expect it. This happens from cars to iPods  Deal with it QUOTE(big gigolo @ Apr 25 2008, 07:56 PM) perodua start to make a wrong move Errr the car haven't even launch yet complain, what is wrong with people... the car haven launch yet received so many complain I'm sure Perodua's market research indicated this is the right direction to go... it's a market space where P1 is not present and there is already a ready market of loyal Kembara owners waiting to upgrade. I participated in a P2 survey and the proposed Nautica checks items off most of my wish list Right on top my list:- More potent engine (Scrap the 1.3l) 4WD is a must Compact and Street Smart looks (I didn't want a Kangaroo bar sticking out front) QUOTE(haze @ Apr 26 2008, 01:52 PM) Whats wrong is that it will increase the price of the car. it does not make sense if the car sells at 90k and higher priced than the toyota rush. Price is moot, if the equipment and trim is up to par or better and it meets buyers requirements then they get what they paid for.Even the Rush has benn taxed a lot so perodua selling it higher priced than the rush is can be seen as plain greed by perodua For me fewer seats are better 5 is sufficient. As long as I can shop at Ikea and carry home Queen Size beds with a wardrobe or 6'ft long table and my grandmother’s wheelchair I'm happy. I choose the current 1.3 Kembara Aero over the Avanza 1.3 coz I felt it's wasteful to lug around so many empty seats and I can go where no Avanza can QUOTE(zacevox @ Apr 27 2008, 01:56 AM) Just wait and see, probably after a while Perodua might local assemble it and could be cheaper? That time the Rush/Terios may go for new generation. Keeping my fingers crossed I'm keeping my Kembara for another 2 years or less. Actually the Toyota Rush that from Indonesia is same chasis with the Japanese Rush/Terios. Only with longer body to fit the third row of seat. Same as the old Terios(our Kembara) know as Daihatsu Taruna in Indonesia. The only things is the current Rush from Indonesia have lower tax due to AFTA. And the new Nautica is from Japan have difference tax structure. Added on April 27, 2008, 1:58 am and it also 300kg more heavy. the 1500cc engine is just too small to support it's weight. Hopefully the price is better when I decide to upgrade or maybe a Nautica Aero facelift QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Apr 27 2008, 04:29 AM) ppl nowadays usually look at badge,size,appearance when buying a car,what's underneath was not so significant from what i can see. True most consumers only look at the superficial and expect a SUV to handle like a Vios rush is base on avanza with prettier skins,it is an expensive way of buying an avanza,but ppl don't see that nautica is base on daihatsu terious,a car for british market,has different underpinning from the rush/avanza,has different drive system (4wd),different interior(exactly the one you get in terious),shorter wheelbase means will be nimbler arround town, but all in all ppl see the skin and forget the substantial. This post has been edited by aaronpang: Apr 28 2008, 11:02 AM |
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Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM
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Got news from SA manager this unit going to be around 100K
If it's 80k I'm sure alot ppl already scratching heads on whether to buy or not, but @ 100k good luck! |
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Apr 28 2008, 11:12 AM
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actually a vios handling dun defer much from an SUV
just that one is a boat that dun rock as much  |
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Apr 28 2008, 11:19 AM
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look like toyota rush to me XD
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Apr 28 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(psychict @ Apr 28 2008, 12:11 PM) Got news from SA manager this unit going to be around 100K wowIf it's 80k I'm sure alot ppl already scratching heads on whether to buy or not, but @ 100k good luck! for a new "japan" car maybe should b ok gua -.- i stil expect to b 70k -.- swt |
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Apr 28 2008, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(psychict @ Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM) Got news from SA manager this unit going to be around 100K A cbu.... 100k price ... half goes to the Mal. gov. .... More inline with the current retail price of Rush in Japan.If it's 80k I'm sure alot ppl already scratching heads on whether to buy or not, but @ 100k good luck! |
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Apr 28 2008, 11:58 AM
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not bad....perodua comes out another new car
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Apr 28 2008, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(psychict @ Apr 28 2008, 11:11 AM) Got news from SA manager this unit going to be around 100K 100k with Perodua badge.... If it's 80k I'm sure alot ppl already scratching heads on whether to buy or not, but @ 100k good luck! Perodua seemed to have strayed off the "Affordability". |
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Apr 28 2008, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Apr 28 2008, 11:12 AM) actually a vios handling dun defer much from an SUV No lar .. u are talking about the moving speed boat on the street called a City just that one is a boat that dun rock as much And some older City's looked like a deformed fish head too.This post has been edited by beatlesalbum: Apr 28 2008, 10:37 PM |
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Apr 29 2008, 11:18 AM
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whats is short wheel base and long wheel base?? So any difference between RUSH and NAUTICA?
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Apr 29 2008, 11:26 AM
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p2 can take out the 'affordability'.... their cars is getting more n more expensive each time....
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Apr 29 2008, 11:46 AM
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its going to be launched on 9th May..
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Apr 29 2008, 12:58 PM
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Aiseh rm100K for perodua nautica, better they CKD here...and put it 70k..then I'll consider this baby suv.
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Apr 29 2008, 01:54 PM
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what theeeeee ^$%^&? price going to 100K???? better take NEW Jazz...haha peroduo is just make kidding for Malaysian |
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Apr 29 2008, 02:13 PM
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Definitely one reason not to buy one, but then again, it doesn't have competition to compete with if you ignore the grey imports.
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Apr 29 2008, 02:38 PM
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100K? better take grand vitara.....my friend saw a lot of nautica just know...doing their tv advertisment for nautica....haha..kata nye cute...slightly bigger than normal kembara and smaller a bit than RUSH...but i already bought Rush ler.....
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Apr 29 2008, 02:57 PM
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Well... We shall see what they price it next week then...
Alot of ppl will think of better options if they really price it at RM100k+ |
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Apr 29 2008, 03:50 PM
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Jus got confirmation that the price will be.....RM90-95K..OTR price.....
CBU Japan... |
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Apr 29 2008, 03:58 PM
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on tht price, u can get other cars better
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Apr 29 2008, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(mydelsol @ Apr 29 2008, 03:50 PM) Jus got confirmation that the price will be.....RM90-95K..OTR price..... that is a very high price for a perodua... where did u get this pricing from? if u don't mind us asking... this will affect a lot of purchases CBU Japan... |
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Apr 29 2008, 04:10 PM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 29 2008, 04:05 PM) that is a very high price for a perodua... where did u get this pricing from? if u don't mind us asking... this will affect a lot of purchases A friend works in the Media industry, he jus came back frm the test drive |
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Apr 29 2008, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Apr 28 2008, 10:34 PM) No lar .. u are talking about the moving speed boat on the street called a City i tot it looked like a tortoise ? (the city i mean ? And some older City's looked like a deformed fish head too. ) QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 29 2008, 04:05 PM) that is a very high price for a perodua... where did u get this pricing from? if u don't mind us asking... this will affect a lot of purchases well some people might buy it cause some people have the thinking that cbu japan is better quality ... |
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Apr 29 2008, 04:28 PM
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maybe tat time this car overcome kelisa and kancil ?
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Apr 29 2008, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(mydelsol @ Apr 29 2008, 04:10 PM) A friend works in the Media industry, he jus came back frm the test drive wow.. that's first hand news man.. but still too pricey for a peroduaQUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 29 2008, 04:26 PM) i tot it looked like a tortoise ? (the city i mean ? well agreed.. but it's gonna end up costing more than rush... when the rush is longer.. sits more and it is a toyota... ) well some people might buy it cause some people have the thinking that cbu japan is better quality ... and if argue 4WD capabilities... for city driving.. no one uses 4WD anyway... uses more petrol as well... |
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Apr 29 2008, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 29 2008, 04:56 PM) wow.. that's first hand news man.. but still too pricey for a perodua well agreed.. but it's gonna end up costing more than rush... when the rush is longer.. sits more and it is a toyota... and if argue 4WD capabilities... for city driving.. no one uses 4WD anyway... uses more petrol as well... yupz, first for lowyatt too, but bear in mind that the Nautica is sold as a 5 seater where elsethe Rush is sold as a 7 seater, same pricing category but different platforms and I agree NO one i know takes their "so called" 4WD off-road |
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Apr 29 2008, 05:27 PM
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if i am not mistaken, both are using the same platform.
we may just slot in the 3rd row seat, change the badge to toyota rush.... and it's a good as 7 seater already by importing a cbu unit and 4wd with their badge on it, the perodua's naughty car is making a mock of the rush. This post has been edited by yngwie: Apr 29 2008, 05:29 PM |
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Apr 29 2008, 05:38 PM
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d nottie car has got myvi steering wheel....
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Apr 29 2008, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 29 2008, 05:27 PM) if i am not mistaken, both are using the same platform. we may just slot in the 3rd row seat, change the badge to toyota rush.... and it's a good as 7 seater already by importing a cbu unit and 4wd with their badge on it, the perodua's naughty car is making a mock of the rush. nope, different platform, Nautica is short-wheel base. u cant just simply slot in 3rd row seat i'd take Suzuki Grand Vitara over this one this time.. |
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Apr 29 2008, 05:53 PM
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CBU Japan Perodua for 90-95K? Malaysians would probably go for Toyota-badged rush. the mindset is "Toyota sure better than Perodua one".
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Apr 29 2008, 05:56 PM
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this car looks nice, love in the first sight? wait n see
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Apr 29 2008, 06:11 PM
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it look nice, but the price is killing itself. a Perodua for RM100k?? i mean, a Perodua?
cute looking Naughtycar.  or this one? handsome looking vitara.   |
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Apr 29 2008, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 29 2008, 06:11 PM) it look nice, but the price is killing itself. a Perodua for RM100k?? i mean, a Perodua? any idea how much the suzuki grand vitara is? hmm 2.0 somemore... that should be CRV/Xtrail territory... if not mistaken.. should be around 128k?cute looking Naughtycar. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « or this one? handsome looking vitara. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « wahhh 100k for perodua... really will raise a lot of eyebrows.. rush 80k territory... i think paying for a toyota badge would be better bang for your buck. |
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Apr 29 2008, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 29 2008, 05:43 PM) nope, different platform, Nautica is short-wheel base. u cant just simply slot in 3rd row seat shorter i'd take Suzuki Grand Vitara over this one this time.. this car gonna had a bad centre of gravity, just like the kembara it replaced  |
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Apr 29 2008, 06:23 PM
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new Vitara is around RM109k w/o insurance. but its 4X2.
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Apr 29 2008, 06:41 PM
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wow , the pricing
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Apr 29 2008, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 29 2008, 06:23 PM) new Vitara is around RM109k w/o insurance. but its 4X2. wahhh that means the new nautica is gonna be expensive.. ok 4WD.. but still 1.5? compared to a 2.0 suzuki? i think i'd rather pay extra for vitara then... |
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Apr 29 2008, 06:45 PM
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100k for a new car in japan -.-
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Apr 29 2008, 08:27 PM
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Just heard the news, 90-95k
What the hell is perodua thinking |
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Apr 29 2008, 08:29 PM
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Looks like a smaller Rush.
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Apr 29 2008, 08:32 PM
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100k...?
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Apr 29 2008, 08:33 PM
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perodua killing themselves i think .... or mebbe they put 90k ... buy one free 1 ... lol
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Apr 29 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Apr 29 2008, 08:27 PM) Just heard the news, 90-95k Thats a crazy price man, same as Rush yes?What the hell is perodua thinking |
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Apr 29 2008, 08:34 PM
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Buy Naughty-Car can get free viva.
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Apr 29 2008, 08:38 PM
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yeah .. just watch Buletin Utama .. they're having media test drive .. price range from 90-95k .. emmm ... well, they're targetting this car to be the 2nd or 3rd car of the owner .. that's why la
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Apr 29 2008, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Apr 29 2008, 08:34 PM) Buy Naughty-Car can get free viva. haha...yes yes... |
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Apr 29 2008, 08:44 PM
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RM90k for perodua naughty car 1.5 4WD...
i rather stick on Grand Livina 1.6L instead... if i always go to genting or cameron highland oftenly (1 week once?), i may choose perodua naughty car... |
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Apr 29 2008, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(milito @ Apr 29 2008, 08:38 PM) yeah .. just watch Buletin Utama .. they're having media test drive .. price range from 90-95k .. emmm ... well, they're targetting this car to be the 2nd or 3rd car of the owner .. that's why la wah..if that's the case, this car is for those who are really kaya one la...coz 2nd or 3rd car...a 90k car...imagine their 1sr car cost how much... |
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Apr 29 2008, 10:46 PM
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First car only about 800-900k lo...
2nd or 3rd car is 10% of their first car... Worth it what |
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Apr 29 2008, 10:48 PM
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But isn't Perodua making cars for the masses, why suddenly have this relatively expensive car? Looks like they are going for high margin rather than high volume.
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Apr 29 2008, 10:53 PM
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guys serious ar perodua are selling this car for about 90-95k?
damn expensive lor...better buying perdana v6..more power.hahaha |
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Apr 29 2008, 11:05 PM
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i would expect the price to b 70k then the market demand sure high
coz ppl who budget on waja will got an imported japan car better |
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Apr 29 2008, 11:14 PM
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90-95k is ridiculous but perhaps perodua know this is a niche car and hence they not putting much hope on it. Well for start, its a rebadged CBU and for sure it is way better than the Rush. I rather get this than the Rush. If i looking for a 7 seater, look no further on the Grand Livina.
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Apr 30 2008, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Apr 29 2008, 11:14 PM) 90-95k is ridiculous but perhaps perodua know this is a niche car and hence they not putting much hope on it. Well for start, its a rebadged CBU and for sure it is way better than the Rush. I rather get this than the Rush. If i looking for a 7 seater, look no further on the Grand Livina. You must be kidding me dude, who the hell will appreciate it? Way better than RUSH ? Have you test drive Rush before you saying your words? |
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Apr 30 2008, 12:44 AM
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90k ?
a P2 badge is as premiumed priced as the real T badge and there will still be people who will buy it oh my....... |
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Apr 30 2008, 01:00 AM
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why dont they sell it under Daihatsu name then? ppl will buy it since its a Daihatsu, not a Perodua. they should have sell Rush 7 seater instead of this 5 seater Terios. this is phail... failure by Perodua.
Rush, cheaper than Nautica and can ferry more people, that is what malaysian want and expected from Perodua. Toyota should sell the Nautica under their badge and current Rush for Perodua. Thats how things work here. |
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Apr 30 2008, 01:11 AM
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normally i estimated this car price will be around 70 to 90k
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Apr 30 2008, 01:29 AM
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wat a ridiculous price..
anyway, let's look forward for this car's shadow on the road |
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Apr 30 2008, 01:36 AM
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The roof can put a surf board.
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May 1 2008, 02:02 AM
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If the P2 Nautica is ~100k than it is helping proton by enhance performance of it.....
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May 1 2008, 03:18 AM
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perodua make a big mistake... bad strategy...
nobody want to buy local brand at 90k.. This post has been edited by ardhawk: May 1 2008, 03:21 AM |
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May 1 2008, 06:36 AM
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QUOTE(ston3r @ Apr 25 2008, 10:09 AM) ppl upgraded to Wish liao... her RAV4 is her market car Pls remind that AVANZA and RUSH is a Daihatsu that using Toyata batch..............so it sure almost same lahi still say the Nautica looks like a Rush... can't see any differentiation.. they might as well release an "peroduaize" an avanza while they are at it... |
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May 1 2008, 11:40 AM
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mayb the quality not so good compared to toyota wan..juz guessing
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May 1 2008, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(tanseehua @ May 1 2008, 06:36 AM) Pls remind that AVANZA and RUSH is a Daihatsu that using Toyata batch..............so it sure almost same lah But they got the 'T' badge |
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May 1 2008, 12:18 PM
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lol...'T' badge is the most influenctial thgy in automotive industry
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May 1 2008, 01:54 PM
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how much this nautica?
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May 1 2008, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(ardhawk @ May 1 2008, 03:18 AM) perodua make a big mistake... bad strategy... local brand is not bad.... proton is gorvemnt brand..that y sucks..nobody want to buy local brand at 90k.. |
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May 1 2008, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(ardhawk @ May 1 2008, 03:18 AM) perodua make a big mistake... bad strategy... before this car lauch, Perodua already start servicing this car. Now everything is ok and they have the knowledge and technology that's why they launch it. nobody want to buy local brand at 90k.. This model is to test the market, so they won't produce it large quantity |
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May 1 2008, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(ardhawk @ May 1 2008, 03:18 AM) perodua make a big mistake... bad strategy... they wont produce in large quantitynobody want to buy local brand at 90k.. same as yaris, last time the salesman said only 500 AP available nationwide ... they also know 100k for a hatchback is not cheap ... |
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May 1 2008, 06:54 PM
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vios and yaris...better take vios..cheaper and bigger...kaka
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May 1 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(Edi8888 @ May 1 2008, 01:56 PM) local brand is not bad.... proton is gorvemnt brand..that y sucks.. - noob - QUOTE(clsiluf @ May 1 2008, 02:17 PM) they wont produce in large quantity but honda jazz is selling well for a 100k hatchsame as yaris, last time the salesman said only 500 AP available nationwide ... they also know 100k for a hatchback is not cheap ... |
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May 1 2008, 11:39 PM
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honda jazz is a different league if u compare it with the yaris .
yaris is completely rip off , cheapo interior , useless windows button , plasticky dashboard etc . once u sit in a jazz and afterwards u sit in the yaris , u will feel that it'd be better for u not to sit into the jazz before , beacsue u will feel so regret sitting in a yaris . |
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May 2 2008, 12:20 AM
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hhmmpph...but is it worth it to buy those small cars? guess the price is very competitive in the sense that city and vios much larger..
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May 2 2008, 11:11 AM
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any price range for nautica?
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May 2 2008, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ May 2 2008, 12:20 AM) hhmmpph...but is it worth it to buy those small cars? guess the price is very competitive in the sense that city and vios much larger.. it depends on individual taste and preference. its like saying is it worth it to buy a two seater sports/supercar like Elise, Ferrari etc when you can buy a 7 seater SUV or MPV. nitsujyuen, dont be lazy, you can browse few pages back and the price range starts from RM80k-100k. |
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May 2 2008, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ May 2 2008, 12:20 AM) hhmmpph...but is it worth it to buy those small cars? guess the price is very competitive in the sense that city and vios much larger.. I heard from the news, they said the price range for Nautica is RM90K - RM95K..which is really not a perodua price range la.. somemore with that price.. and high interest rate..  people might go for toyota or honda then.. dunno what actually perodua think.. |
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May 2 2008, 10:38 PM
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Erm, it's a 4WD, sits 5 and fully imported from Japan with no local hands on it. It have a stupid looking nose grilles and that's it. It can perform better than a Rush because of the drive-train and there's no compromise on space since it's built to sit only 5 person. No more and no less.
That's all I wanna say haha. |
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May 2 2008, 10:58 PM
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lol..btw.i mention vios and city because sumone mentioned bout jazz and yaris...not nautica..lol..duin get me wrong
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May 3 2008, 10:51 PM
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Another 5 more days to launch. I heard it's priced around RM80k
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May 3 2008, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ May 1 2008, 07:51 PM) - noob - TRUE but honda jazz is selling well for a 100k hatch QUOTE(BridgestoneRE711 @ May 1 2008, 11:39 PM) honda jazz is a different league if u compare it with the yaris . Okay, the reason why people bought the yaris is because he/she has a lot moolah to spend and perhaps he/she could change cars earlier than you could settled half of your car loan yaris is completely rip off , cheapo interior , useless windows button , plasticky dashboard etc . once u sit in a jazz and afterwards u sit in the yaris , u will feel that it'd be better for u not to sit into the jazz before , beacsue u will feel so regret sitting in a yaris . |
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May 4 2008, 08:22 PM
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QUOTE(DreMAx @ May 3 2008, 10:51 PM) Another 5 more days to launch. I heard it's priced around RM80k dude.. someone already mentioned the price will be RM 90k-95k in this thread |
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May 9 2008, 09:28 AM
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launching 2molo... anybody go see
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May 9 2008, 10:36 AM
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Actually tis Nautica brought in here is for certain niche market only.
Expected around nearly RM 100 K So not worth it !! Go get a Toyota Rush la,value for $$ This post has been edited by pooh88: May 9 2008, 10:37 AM |
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May 9 2008, 10:39 AM
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around 90k??i better get other..
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May 9 2008, 11:16 AM
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if 100k, it's a bit too close to the grand vitara 2WD
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May 9 2008, 11:36 AM
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little information shown
go to www.theideal4wd.com.my then match the correct pics This post has been edited by ! Love Money: May 9 2008, 11:38 AM |
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May 9 2008, 11:52 AM
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if 100K...
better get a honda jazz... since honda got promotion.. can get discount |
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May 9 2008, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(DreMAx @ May 3 2008, 10:51 PM) Another 5 more days to launch. I heard it's priced around RM80k QUOTE(ston3r @ May 4 2008, 08:22 PM) dude.. someone already mentioned the price will be RM 90k-95k in this thread summary:- it is expensive, wanto ask is it 4 tyre can roll/move? or only 2 ?QUOTE(mr_fazz @ May 9 2008, 11:52 AM) if 100K... yup, jazz is beauty, interior design not bad too, space fully utilized, and it is japan car. it around 90k.better get a honda jazz... since honda got promotion.. can get discount |
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May 9 2008, 05:03 PM
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Helo... anyone seen the car yet ?? why like no one give a damn care..lols.... ^^
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May 9 2008, 05:09 PM
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price is here . 90k.. lol.. get hyundai elentra better. 2000cc
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May 9 2008, 05:18 PM
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90K...cannot lar....for me it's expensive.
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May 9 2008, 05:30 PM
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 I'll be releasing the test drive report, the TVC and some photos and details come 6.30 pm. Visit terato.com's Perodua Nautica 1.5L EZ Resource Center at : http://www.terato.com/cars/content/blogcategory/31/59/ for more details This post has been edited by momoOK: May 9 2008, 05:33 PM |
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May 9 2008, 05:32 PM
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there goes my hope of buying it at RM75k... (maybe after 1 year ++)
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May 9 2008, 05:51 PM
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RM90k for Perodua Nautica...!!! still its the cheapest 4WD around... barring those from dunno wat other country.
Looks cool but anyting around the region of RM50-60 would be more desirable. RM90k is kinda too high for a local brand imported from Japan. ironic huh...!!! No complaint about the exterior or interior but the price is way out. |
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May 9 2008, 06:11 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Added on May 9, 2008, 6:17 pm » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by tps18489: May 9 2008, 06:17 PM |
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May 9 2008, 06:29 PM
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P.Nautica abit look like toyota rush,toyota rush is also around rm90k
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May 9 2008, 06:30 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Pardon me for the quality of the pictures. They were taken using a camera phone. |
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May 9 2008, 07:12 PM
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P.nautica price is on par with Perdana ledi.... geng
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May 9 2008, 07:28 PM
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who going to buy this car? i think Pro2 just want to show off here...
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May 9 2008, 07:30 PM
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let's threat it as a japan car juz badge wif p2
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May 9 2008, 07:49 PM
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Why they just cant make it cheaper. It is very expensive, Hilux is cheaper though.
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May 9 2008, 08:07 PM
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what is the interest rate? if its still around 3.75 - 3.88 , i would rather add a little for suzuki vitara. vitara is about 110k is it? interest rate is only 2.4%.
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May 9 2008, 08:18 PM
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my god...the news just said this thing is priced at 89k??
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May 9 2008, 08:26 PM
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49k la ......
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May 9 2008, 08:29 PM
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i heard 89K... omg..
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May 9 2008, 08:29 PM
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89k la. What 49k?
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May 9 2008, 08:35 PM
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the design is quite ok. upgraded kembara one. hehe. the price is 89k or 49k?
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May 9 2008, 08:43 PM
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i go for lancer 2.0gt
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May 9 2008, 08:48 PM
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i think nautica 1.3-1.5 with price around RM90k - RM95k is totally rubish.to expensive.came from japan and just change the badge.
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May 9 2008, 09:02 PM
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thanks for ripping off malaysian again
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May 9 2008, 09:06 PM
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Went to see the car,the interior too much plastic..
The price is too lame.. |
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May 9 2008, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(squareballs @ May 9 2008, 09:06 PM) Went to see the car,the interior too much plastic.. ya.i agree with u.i hate the center panel design.it's not a look like RM95k car design.too much plastic. The price is too lame.. |
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May 9 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(mikafarhan @ May 9 2008, 09:10 PM) ya.i agree with u.i hate the center panel design.it's not a look like RM95k car design.too much plastic. I cant believe it's priced at 90K, I thought the SA bullshitting me..In the end.. |
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May 9 2008, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(squareballs @ May 9 2008, 09:12 PM) I cant believe it's priced at 90K, I thought the SA bullshitting me.. ya the ranged of priced is between 90k-95k.maybe for the 1.3L 90k and 1.5L 95k.already watch at news on tv9.In the end.. |
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May 9 2008, 09:38 PM
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Perodua is selling only one variant which is 1.5 litre automatic. The price is RM 89,900.00.
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May 9 2008, 09:44 PM
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total failure i might say. the price is bullshit. i'd go for something else.
IT"S A NATIONAL BRAND CAR!!!! <----Leonidas shouting... y so expensive?? @@ somemore it look jz like Rush. |
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May 9 2008, 09:44 PM
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i think this time perodua will really suffer liao... proton saga sales > perodua
not nice... expensive |
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May 9 2008, 09:49 PM
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goodness the center board looks sooo fugly...
Added on May 9, 2008, 9:50 pmcan someone show some pics of toyota rush interior and compare it with this ugly car? This post has been edited by toby.c13: May 9 2008, 09:50 PM |
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May 9 2008, 09:55 PM
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nowadays perodua getting more and more expensive.
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May 9 2008, 11:24 PM
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Earning more and more !!!
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May 9 2008, 11:33 PM
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mahal pasal fully imported dari jepun. thus kenalah tax yg sama ngan keta lain dari jepun.
lu orang complain the interior is plastickyla n crapla n not justified for the price la, rush pun sama ape. rush mia center console is the same with avanza's if u guys had not realised. |
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May 10 2008, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE(Naota-kun @ May 9 2008, 11:33 PM) mahal pasal fully imported dari jepun. thus kenalah tax yg sama ngan keta lain dari jepun. Hard time reading your post.. lu orang complain the interior is plastickyla n crapla n not justified for the price la, rush pun sama ape. rush mia center console is the same with avanza's if u guys had not realised. |
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May 10 2008, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(sokmo86 @ May 9 2008, 08:35 PM) the design is quite ok. upgraded kembara one. hehe. the price is 89k or 49k? just heard TV3 midnight news...RM89,900...maybe he referring to full package...maybe not... |
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May 10 2008, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ May 10 2008, 12:16 AM) just heard TV3 midnight news...RM89,900...maybe he referring to full package...maybe not... there is only one variant offered.perodua is really killing people. what's the point of launching this??? |
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May 10 2008, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(claxxion @ May 10 2008, 12:22 AM) there is only one variant offered. They launched this model for DVVT hardcore fans perodua is really killing people. what's the point of launching this??? |
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May 10 2008, 12:25 AM
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i think they are killing themselves, the nautica could eat into the rush's sale, lol, i guess perodua ran out of creativity
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May 10 2008, 12:30 AM
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They launch coz its time to cr8 bigger cars
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May 10 2008, 12:31 AM
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WTF?? RM89,900??? i rather plus more few k buy TOYOTA Rush lo...haha...
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May 10 2008, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(KeV @ May 10 2008, 12:25 AM) i think they are killing themselves, the nautica could eat into the rush's sale, lol, i guess perodua ran out of creativity But one thing good is the exterior quality and the doors are good. From what i tested. |
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May 10 2008, 12:32 AM
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i think its a case of the badge at the nose.
take away the badge, its prob d cheapest SUV in town... minus the China mari punya. Slap a Toyota or Daihatsu badge + import fr Japan, i bet some of us will say its reasonable. Given a Perodua badge, we expect cheap. Perodua themselves oso said... this Nautica will be slow mover and they know d risk they r taking. good luck but i still can't stop wondering why a Perodua from Japan... costing RM90K...!!! This post has been edited by demio121: May 10 2008, 12:35 AM |
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May 10 2008, 12:37 AM
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if i really want 4WD, i'll look into storm or hilux
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May 10 2008, 12:41 AM
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 10 2008, 12:37 AM) if i really want 4WD, i'll look into storm or hilux Mitsubishi Triton  |
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May 10 2008, 01:06 AM
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QUOTE(squareballs @ May 10 2008, 01:41 AM) Mitsubishi Triton Isuzu D-Max 3.0 pwned all |
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May 10 2008, 01:31 AM
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 Perodua Nautica  Daihatsu Terios (New Gen: Be-Go)  Toyota Rush This post has been edited by sjz: May 10 2008, 10:11 AM |
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May 10 2008, 01:38 AM
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Daihatsu is under Toyota, so basically Perodua falls under Daihatsu and itself automatically fall under toyota.. Thats y most ppl say Perodua have the quality of a Toyota
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May 10 2008, 01:47 AM
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But won't they compete with each other?
Because Toyota Rush is also on sale in Malaysia at about 90k+ but now the EXACTLY SAME MODEL is selling also at 90k+, only by Perodua, won't it be some kind of conflict? This post has been edited by sjz: May 10 2008, 01:50 AM |
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May 10 2008, 02:14 AM
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definately bro...might be the strong reason now coz it CBU model then pricing will goes up...
wait at least 2 yrs, surely we will have a CKD model then pricing definately that time will goes down... with rm90k....i've a plenty of model to be survey... |
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May 10 2008, 03:02 AM
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would look nicer if it was 2 doors though ...
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May 10 2008, 05:45 AM
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QUOTE(syazone @ May 10 2008, 12:37 AM) if i really want 4WD, i'll look into storm or hilux QUOTE(squareballs @ May 10 2008, 12:41 AM) Mitsubishi Triton QUOTE(chyz66 @ May 10 2008, 01:06 AM) Isuzu D-Max 3.0 pwned all 4WD on Rush/Terios/Nautica is an AWD system, 4WD on double cabs (and Ford Everest) are only partial 4x4. Fortuner, Hilux Surf, and the Landcruisers are the ones truly capable of Full-time 4x4 in all terrainAdded on May 10, 2008, 5:53 am unless the gov change the tax system.... nautica should cost at around 90k and above... about 30 to 35k of the price goes straight into gov. coffers... 25% off... japan made car... x115% excise, import and sales tax... maybe a few k off from my calculations...under declared? This post has been edited by BeastX: May 10 2008, 06:38 AM |
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May 10 2008, 08:15 AM
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someone go take a look today, pls give opinion and snap pics too if possible
Added on May 10, 2008, 9:12 amjust surf the perodua web, only 1 version available i.e no medium line or premium but y langkawi sold for ony 57k++ This post has been edited by ! Love Money: May 10 2008, 09:12 AM |
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May 10 2008, 09:23 AM
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wahh saw the ad today in the newspaper and short write up of the car in the Star business section... RM 89k on the road... like we all discussed.. too pricey for a p2... and they have always been saying that they make affordable cars for the rakyat
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May 10 2008, 09:29 AM
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The didn't make. They just import and rebadge. Better go for Rush.
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May 10 2008, 09:30 AM
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it's available at the Perodua showroom....
yesterday night passing by it.. |
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May 10 2008, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(MyDevil @ May 10 2008, 09:29 AM) The didn't make. They just import and rebadge. Better go for Rush. yeo... it's just a rebadged version of the rush... cbu? hehehe.. anyone knows where the rush is from? ahem... indonesia?... |
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May 10 2008, 10:08 AM
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wah....saw the picture....it looks like the rush...
but the price is higher leh |
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May 10 2008, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(toby.c13 @ May 9 2008, 09:49 PM) goodness the center board looks sooo fugly... Added on May 9, 2008, 9:50 pmcan someone show some pics of toyota rush interior and compare it with this ugly car?  First row Toyota Rush/Perodua Nautica, Second row is Daihaisu Be-Go.. They are 100% same except Daihatsu Be-Go more advance, have a screen only... |
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May 10 2008, 10:10 AM
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Perodua targets to sell 2,400 new SUVs this year
KUALA LUMPUR: Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd (Perodua) targets to sell about 2,400 units of its completely built-up sport-utility vehicle (SUV), the Nautica, this year. Chairman Tan Sri Asmat Kamaludin said the Malaysian SUV market was relatively “small but stable,” with sales of about 3,000 units monthly. “Our target is to sell 100 to 200 units per month. This translates to a market share of approximately 5%,” he said at the launch of the Nautica yesterday. The name “Nautica” was derived for the word “nautical”, related to sailing or yachting and suited the concept of the compact SUV, he said. Perodua managing director Datuk Hafiz Syed Abu Bakar said the SUV was imported from Japan and he expected it to capture a niche market outside Perodua's mainstream domain. He said the Nautica was an alternative for drivers mulling to progress from conventional sedans and hatchbacks to a different body type, such as a compact 4WD. “We expect people who buy this vehicle to have another two more in the garage, a sedan or a compact,” he said, adding the compact SUV would attract a new customer profile. The Nautica would increase the company's model line-up, said Hafiz, who expected the introduction of its first 1.5-litre model to raise the company's image a notch or two. The Nautica comes in two colours, grey and black, and sells for RM89,900, on the road. Perodua sold 162,000 cars last year, with the Myvi and Viva the best two selling models in Malaysia. “The bigger challenge facing Perodua is not whether we remain number one but to maximise customer satisfaction in view of higher oil prices and market liberalisation. “With the increase in oil prices, the market would be driven by smaller compact cars as people opt for cheaper cost-effective cars,” he said. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...37&sec=business |
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May 10 2008, 10:17 AM
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can they sell that much?
maybe they confidence because of good selling of myvi |
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May 10 2008, 10:20 AM
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but myvi has no similar car (i mean 100% similar like this 1), with her.
that's why so many people bought it.. now this car is totally same with Toyota Rush... don't know how they manage to grab the market. in Taiwan/Japan, this type of car only cost 50k+, so actually 30k+ is for gov. This post has been edited by sjz: May 10 2008, 10:20 AM |
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May 10 2008, 10:23 AM
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That's the price u have to pay of malaysian car, made in japan.
If made in malaysia, i'm very sure around 60k+ only. |
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May 10 2008, 10:23 AM
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I don't know why they want to compete straight on with Rush. At slightly cheaper only
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May 10 2008, 10:25 AM
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I think RUsh is cheaper..
Now they have promotion, i see last time RM88,888 only.. |
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May 10 2008, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(sjz @ May 10 2008, 10:25 AM) I think RUsh is cheaper.. Really? Then who will buy Nautica? Now they have promotion, i see last time RM88,888 only.. |
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May 10 2008, 10:31 AM
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This is not even an SUV, more like a Kembara replacement. At such a high price? Ppl would rather buy a Triton/Hilux/Ranger/D-Max ler...much bigger and more powerful. Now with the green diesel engine, road tax is also affordable.
Perodua should just stick to Myvis and Vivas. Heck, even returning the Kelisa to production should bring more profit. |
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May 10 2008, 10:32 AM
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i smell a failure in this... perhaps Perodua just got overconfident with all their little cars selling so well.
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May 10 2008, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ May 10 2008, 10:32 AM) i smell a failure in this... perhaps Perodua just got overconfident with all their little cars selling so well. agree.... but they target low no.s .... so i guess they will still meet their target |
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May 10 2008, 11:07 AM
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Believe it , it is just another Proton Juara .
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May 10 2008, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ May 10 2008, 11:07 AM) Believe it , it is just another Proton Juara . i second that... same as what i think before i reply... just wait when Nautica going to phase out when poor sales report received... |
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May 10 2008, 11:42 AM
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i think to them is like, since P2 import not local produce, so if it not selling good, then P2 just import less or import depends on order. Perodua are not setting up any production line to produce locally, so no risk for them...
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May 10 2008, 11:45 AM
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nop. they risk their own reputation and sales, coz not able to fight Proton new comers...
time for Pro2 fan to realize that Pro2 only import,rebadge and resell car not build them from scratch and everyone hate Proton soo much |
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May 10 2008, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(prozac @ May 10 2008, 10:31 AM) This is not even an SUV, more like a Kembara replacement. At such a high price? Ppl would rather buy a Triton/Hilux/Ranger/D-Max ler...much bigger and more powerful. Now with the green diesel engine, road tax is also affordable. Its a loop hole that dual-cabs/single-cab pick-ups escape tax... sales tax(10%) still apply thou... And only dual-cabs can use for non-commercial purpose.. Dual-cabs ... the only non-commercial vehicle (other than in Labuan and Langkawi)... that you are paying for what is worth... and a higher profit margin earn by the manufacturer. |
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May 10 2008, 11:55 AM
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if this Nautica under toyota badge... RM90k is very reasonable price and hot selling...
but under perodua? |
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May 10 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(sjz @ May 10 2008, 10:09 AM) First row Toyota Rush/Perodua Nautica, Second row is Daihaisu Be-Go.. They are 100% same except Daihatsu Be-Go more advance, have a screen only... im really speechless aledi.. ahahaha.. thanks bro. the aircond vent reallyyy...... looks..... ..... i rather take be-go.. got lcd screen.. This post has been edited by toby.c13: May 10 2008, 12:01 PM |
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May 10 2008, 12:06 PM
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So, this is a Kembara Replacement?
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May 10 2008, 12:22 PM
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with the current interest rate for perodua vs toyota
i think rush will be a better buy. besides, why would anyone buy a toyota with a perodua badge on it? |
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May 10 2008, 12:43 PM
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i read at motoring mags before someone from them told after test drive toyota rush they find engine 1.5 cc (same like avanza platform) its underpower for long distance journey especially if hiking at karak highway coz rush body heavy but if this p2 nautica more shorter than rush i think its more suitable but the price same like 1.6>2.0 cc cars or mpv lor...
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May 10 2008, 12:56 PM
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Errr......... why i saw some cars their auto gear is very different one, Lancer GT one, not straight one. What is that called ah ?
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May 10 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ May 10 2008, 12:56 PM) Errr......... why i saw some cars their auto gear is very different one, Lancer GT one, not straight one. What is that called ah ? i think you mean gated gearshift ? |
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May 10 2008, 01:04 PM
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Sometime June last 2007, I saw Daihatsu Terios (P2 nautica) and Sirion ( exactly look like P2 Myvi) were on displayed in one of the shopping complexes when i was in Jarkarta Indonesia. The selling price for Terios was under RM60K on the road and Sirion was selling at around RM40+K.
Malaysian have to pay extra RM30+K for Terios to the government to protect and babysit our 23 year old retarded baby ..... Proton. This retarded baby still produce low quality car like SAGA BLM as witness in this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/643569 I don't know when will Proton can ever grown up, producing good quality cars and be independent without protection from BN government. As long as Proton can not compete in the free world market, we as rakyat of Malaysia will continue paying a price to buy non national cars in order to keep this retarded baby survive. |
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May 10 2008, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 10 2008, 01:58 PM) i think you mean gated gearshift ? Yaya...gated gearshift. Those is better right ? |
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 10 2008, 01:04 PM) Sometime June last 2007, I saw Daihatsu Terios (P2 nautica) and Sirion ( exactly look like P2 Myvi) were on displayed in one of the shopping complexes when i was in Jarkarta Indonesia. The selling price for Terios was under RM60K on the road and Sirion was selling at around RM40+K. What a noob comment...Malaysian have to pay extra RM30+K for Terios to the government to protect and babysit our 23 year old retarded baby ..... Proton. This retarded baby still produce low quality car like SAGA BLM as witness in this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/643569 I don't know when will Proton can ever grown up, producing good quality cars and be independent without protection from BN government. As long as Proton can not compete in the free world market, we as rakyat of Malaysia will continue paying a price to buy non national cars in order to keep this retarded baby survive. Ask your P2 why they don't produce their own car but import over car and change to badge to P2? Ask your P2 is that grown up? Ask your P2 are they a national car? They would answer yes, ask your P2 again if they have national status, why P2 nautica is expensive? They will answer because we import the car as CBU, they didn't design the car, develop the car. Is that P1 fault? Ask P2 who is more grown up?A car maker that develop their own car, their own engine or a car maker that takes all cars from nippon and change the badge? Ask your P2 can they compete in free market? They will say no because they also need protection from government.. Grow up, dont blame others for your fault.. National Automotive Policy is to protect all carmakers, that includes P1, P2 (consider national?) and ridiculously Naza. Not P1 alone Added on May 10, 2008, 1:26 pm QUOTE(sani_2020 @ May 10 2008, 12:22 PM) with the current interest rate for perodua vs toyota they will buy nautica and change tha bagde to toyota as usual... i think rush will be a better buy. besides, why would anyone buy a toyota with a perodua badge on it? This post has been edited by hazremi: May 10 2008, 01:27 PM |
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 10 2008, 01:04 PM) Sometime June last 2007, I saw Daihatsu Terios (P2 nautica) and Sirion ( exactly look like P2 Myvi) were on displayed in one of the shopping complexes when i was in Jarkarta Indonesia. The selling price for Terios was under RM60K on the road and Sirion was selling at around RM40+K. High interest rate for all cars are because of proton..mmm Malaysian have to pay extra RM30+K for Terios to the government to protect and babysit our 23 year old retarded baby ..... Proton. This retarded baby still produce low quality car like SAGA BLM as witness in this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/643569 I don't know when will Proton can ever grown up, producing good quality cars and be independent without protection from BN government. As long as Proton can not compete in the free world market, we as rakyat of Malaysia will continue paying a price to buy non national cars in order to keep this retarded baby survive. |
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May 10 2008, 01:37 PM
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Err, i just noticed that this nautica is 4X4 and Rush only 4X2 right ??
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May 10 2008, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(chyz66 @ May 10 2008, 01:15 PM) Yaya...gated gearshift. Those is better right ? makes no diff ... just looks more exspensive ..and depeding on the car , no need to press the one button when shifting gears |
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May 10 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(hazremi @ May 10 2008, 01:25 PM) National Automotive Policy is to protect all carmakers, that includes P1, P2 (consider national?) and ridiculously Naza. protecting while earning a big bundle of cash from those who dare to buy other brands, increasing also earnings to the national car builders as there is little competition for the price point. No competition, inflated price, lacks quality control (or not as stringent) as there is no alternatives. All of which burdens the consumersNot P1 alone |
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May 10 2008, 02:06 PM
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man, to me nautica is the twin sister to rush..not very sastisfied..
nyways,i'll reckon it would take proton many more years for it to build quality cars that every1 will b happy abt.. |
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May 10 2008, 02:36 PM
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nautical is the real deal awd 4x4 (like an oem ver)... the Malaysian/Indonesian Rush is an Advanza with some of Rush interior and Exterior (like a cut and paste job).
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May 10 2008, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 10 2008, 01:04 PM) Sometime June last 2007, I saw Daihatsu Terios (P2 nautica) and Sirion ( exactly look like P2 Myvi) were on displayed in one of the shopping complexes when i was in Jarkarta Indonesia. The selling price for Terios was under RM60K on the road and Sirion was selling at around RM40+K. and Pro2 is not Malaysian car? maybe yes but somehow goverment still call pro2 as Malaysian car so they too benefit from government policy, dont u think?Malaysian have to pay extra RM30+K for Terios to the government to protect and babysit our 23 year old retarded baby ..... Proton. This retarded baby still produce low quality car like SAGA BLM as witness in this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/643569 I don't know when will Proton can ever grown up, producing good quality cars and be independent without protection from BN government. As long as Proton can not compete in the free world market, we as rakyat of Malaysia will continue paying a price to buy non national cars in order to keep this retarded baby survive. |
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May 10 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 10 2008, 01:04 PM) Sometime June last 2007, I saw Daihatsu Terios (P2 nautica) and Sirion ( exactly look like P2 Myvi) were on displayed in one of the shopping complexes when i was in Jarkarta Indonesia. The selling price for Terios was under RM60K on the road and Sirion was selling at around RM40+K. the question back to you is when are YOU gonna grow up?Malaysian have to pay extra RM30+K for Terios to the government to protect and babysit our 23 year old retarded baby ..... Proton. This retarded baby still produce low quality car like SAGA BLM as witness in this thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/643569 I don't know when will Proton can ever grown up, producing good quality cars and be independent without protection from BN government. As long as Proton can not compete in the free world market, we as rakyat of Malaysia will continue paying a price to buy non national cars in order to keep this retarded baby survive. immature comment. |
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May 10 2008, 04:30 PM
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alamak so much comment on national policy....
why no 1 review the car??? |
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May 10 2008, 05:08 PM
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It looks really like the Toyota Rush
and it also looks a little like the new Suzuki Vitara at the front grille.But at a price of RM85k - RM90k is a little costly. |
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May 10 2008, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(sjz @ May 10 2008, 10:09 AM) First row Toyota Rush/Perodua Nautica, Second row is Daihaisu Be-Go.. They are 100% same except Daihatsu Be-Go more advance, have a screen only... |
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May 10 2008, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(BeastX @ May 10 2008, 02:36 PM) nautical is the real deal awd 4x4 (like an oem ver)... the Malaysian/Indonesian Rush is an Advanza with some of Rush interior and Exterior (like a cut and paste job). Most owners probably won't use the 4x4 anyway and turn it off for better fuel consumption. Plus the Toyota badge on the Rush is guaranteed to hold it's value better than the P2. And which statement do you think carries more weight -"I drive a Perodua 4x4" "I drive a Toyota 4x2" |
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May 10 2008, 07:25 PM
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who need full time 4wd SUV/MPV???
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May 10 2008, 08:32 PM
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yeap.. in bolehland here we will never fully utilise this function so it is a waste
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May 10 2008, 08:49 PM
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This little 4WD not going to sell well. Thouh luck for Perodua salesperson
Imagine buying an imported car with local brand but with high-local-like-car interest rate at 3.88%. A total rip-off |
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May 10 2008, 09:12 PM
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Where are P2 fans?
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May 10 2008, 09:19 PM
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damn, better get toyota rush then this car. rush can carry 7 ppl easily
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May 10 2008, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ May 10 2008, 08:49 PM) This little 4WD not going to sell well. Thouh luck for Perodua salesperson I was having that in mind to about this new 4wd isn't going to do very well for that price. I mean like what you said, it's an imported car but with the local badge there and for the price... Imagine buying an imported car with local brand but with high-local-like-car interest rate at 3.88%. A total rip-off |
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May 10 2008, 11:43 PM
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quite nice...hopefully the price nice also.
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May 10 2008, 11:51 PM
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they should reduce the price la...
85k+ is too costly, if they put arround 60k+ i think that would do... the design all that is not bad, really attractive.. but the price, wow better buy non-national car... it's price close to perdana oredy (which enter luxurious car type) |
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May 11 2008, 01:05 AM
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what do malaysian think ! ppl will buy new car ??? tax is increase , petrol is increase???!
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May 11 2008, 01:06 AM
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Check out the spec.
Rush with the same spec with Nautica will caused near the 100k line. Rush with the same $ as Nautica only offer the very basic acc. Other than the 4wd which is not practical, overall, nautica pricing and specs better than rush. |
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May 11 2008, 01:07 AM
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the design not bad lor...
i should ask my to change her kembara |
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May 11 2008, 01:26 AM
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I saw the Nautica today when I was at Cineleisure. P2 had one at Cineleisure's entrance.
To me the interior looks very very plain for a 90k car. The dash lights up normally, not like Myvi or Camry with opti-something display. Projector headlights with normal bulbs, not HID. Rear combination lights are not using LEDs  Have wing mirror signal that almost looked like Camry's, but is lit up by LED. All in all it looks more like a 60-70k car than a 90k car. I think Toyota Corp overall has made a grant mistake. Imagine, if P2 sell the Rush at cheaper price and Toyota sell the Nautica with "T" badge, ppl can accept the high price of the Nautica. Both will sell well since P2 is selling a reliable ppl/cargo carrier and Toyota selling a niche 4WD like the Yaris. But now the "cheap" Rush is made expensive by the Toyota badge and the expensive Rush cannot sell because it has the P2 badge which usually makes cheap cars. Haih, P2 has gone as arrogant as P1 . First it overpriced the Viva, now it overpriced the Kembara!! |
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May 11 2008, 02:16 AM
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but still, p2 better compare p1 for now la...
how come same model, sell from 2 different brand in 1 country? dunno what agreement they done previously... |
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May 11 2008, 03:10 AM
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QUOTE(squareballs @ May 10 2008, 01:29 PM) High interest rate for all cars are because of proton..mmm I thought Honda interest only 2.XX Proton fault again? |
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May 11 2008, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(prozac @ May 10 2008, 06:54 PM) Most owners probably won't use the 4x4 anyway and turn it off for better fuel consumption..... Natica's (& Kembara's) AWD system is engaged all the time (where most of the power goes to the 2 front wheels, back wheels only kick in in certain situations)... there is no option to switch to exclusively 2wd.. the only switch you have is to lock the central diff. so that all 4 wheels get the same power. This is only used if you are in a muddy/gravel/sand pits. Definitely not for tar roads even in wet situations. Some sales people and customers don't know this and ending up destroying/damaging their gears/axle/central diff. Very few cars have the option for 4wd and 2wd on tar roads... of all of Toyota's models only Hilux Surf comes to mind. |
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May 11 2008, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(BeastX @ May 11 2008, 06:32 AM) Natica's (& Kembara's) AWD system is engaged all the time (where most of the power goes to the 2 front wheels, back wheels only kick in in certain situations)... there is no option to switch to exclusively 2wd.. the only switch you have is to lock the central diff. so that all 4 wheels get the same power. This is only used if you are in a muddy/gravel/sand pits. Definitely not for tar roads even in wet situations. Some sales people and customers don't know this and ending up destroying/damaging their gears/axle/central diff. i thinik the x-trail can select 2wd or 4wd if i not mistaken ...Very few cars have the option for 4wd and 2wd on tar roads... of all of Toyota's models only Hilux Surf comes to mind. |
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May 11 2008, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 11 2008, 10:25 AM) i thinik the x-trail can select 2wd or 4wd if i not mistaken ... yaya. just press the button only. |
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May 11 2008, 10:29 AM
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That is something we would NOT find in a Not-the-car.
It looks startlingly like a car I have seen before.... |
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May 14 2008, 11:48 AM
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a bit pricey compare to others perodua product..range of 30-40k..for me it's just not worth to buy for student or small budget family car..maybe if compare to rush, it's worth
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May 14 2008, 12:00 PM
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problem is in an actual environment where u really need 4WD power, can this car perform?
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May 14 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ May 14 2008, 12:00 PM) problem is in an actual environment where u really need 4WD power, can this car perform? you get the car we see can or not lor ... |
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May 14 2008, 12:31 PM
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90k for this piece of shiat?
u give me money la i am willing to spend 55k max on this...... |
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May 14 2008, 12:41 PM
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one thing I know about previous kembara car is you can speed like hell laaa
last month , my cute little friend ( she's 160cm only and 21 years old only ) drove 150km/h from ipoh to kl on highway with no worries... last week, i drove my sister's viva 130km/h already takut.. I think that's where we can take advantages of this 4wd on the road This post has been edited by Invader Zim: May 14 2008, 12:42 PM |
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May 14 2008, 12:42 PM
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Just imagine a cbu car from japan with myvi's steering wheel, redesign front and back bumper (with local reverse sensor) and yet it's called cbu from japan.
The toneau (spelling) cover and heat insulator under the front bonnet is missing. The holes is there though. When asked the SA, he replied it is optional accessories = more money = more profit. Really really really dissapointed for RM90k car. |
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May 14 2008, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ May 14 2008, 12:31 PM) 90k for this piece of shiat? might as well dd another 90k and a 2008 rav4 .lolu give me money la i am willing to spend 55k max on this...... |
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May 14 2008, 12:59 PM
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sonycd..
long time no see |
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May 14 2008, 04:54 PM
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Too expensive for a small car~!!!
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May 14 2008, 05:57 PM
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too expensive for a local car maker.....
look alike with rush .... at the same time have two diff car maker produce the same product at the same time.... just weird |
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May 14 2008, 07:51 PM
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80k? for a local car made in japan?
1 word.. Hilarious!! |
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May 14 2008, 08:18 PM
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LOL! ...
I doubt it'll work as good as any other 4WD. It's prolly a budget car... ... wait, is it seriously rm90k?! |
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May 14 2008, 08:24 PM
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I have a look at it yesterday and i would prefer Toyota Rush or Nissan Livina.
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May 14 2008, 08:28 PM
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today if im not see wrong at the Kesas highway, i saw Nautica without front bumper, and without the spare tyre.
Maybe they send the car to Perodua factory to put on the front bumper... |
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May 14 2008, 09:02 PM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 14 2008, 08:28 PM) today if im not see wrong at the Kesas highway, i saw Nautica without front bumper, and without the spare tyre. perodua bumpers r made by contractor...one of them is ace polymer...last time located at sg bulohMaybe they send the car to Perodua factory to put on the front bumper... |
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May 14 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 14 2008, 08:28 PM) today if im not see wrong at the Kesas highway, i saw Nautica without front bumper, and without the spare tyre. Maybe it is test drive car ?Maybe they send the car to Perodua factory to put on the front bumper... |
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May 14 2008, 11:27 PM
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90k too expensive...i tot rm65k since kembara last time launching price around that....erm...ppl wil chose rush...or innova even better...x trail can chose 2wd or 4wd by the button at the dashboard...
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May 14 2008, 11:31 PM
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the price is on the high side but the fit and finish is typical of a japan CBU
saw the car during the weekend the paintwork is excellent, the panel gap consistent tried the switchgear and it felt incredible shut the rear door and the spare tyre cover didn't rattle like many other model i guess this model is meant to be a premium model, for those who's looking for something different btw, it is selling in langkawi and labuan for less than 60k |
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May 15 2008, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(electron @ May 14 2008, 11:31 PM) the price is on the high side but the fit and finish is typical of a japan CBU of course labuan and langkawi is selling for lower price ma. saw the car during the weekend the paintwork is excellent, the panel gap consistent tried the switchgear and it felt incredible shut the rear door and the spare tyre cover didn't rattle like many other model i guess this model is meant to be a premium model, for those who's looking for something different btw, it is selling in langkawi and labuan for less than 60k But still a nice CBU car but with the typical malaysian mindset.. i doubt this will sell well as compare to rush |
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May 15 2008, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ May 15 2008, 12:00 AM) of course labuan and langkawi is selling for lower price ma. nautica, But still a nice CBU car but with the typical malaysian mindset.. i doubt this will sell well as compare to rushdoes this 4wd really needed on road? |
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May 15 2008, 02:16 AM
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ops, sorry wrong post This post has been edited by Invader Zim: May 15 2008, 02:18 AM |
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May 15 2008, 02:22 AM
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Any owners here?
Everytime i see rush or rush look a like on the road, must see the badge carefully |
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May 15 2008, 01:44 PM
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Perodua Noti Car.
Comes with a noti pricetag. Top up a bit can buy Rush liao wor.. |
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May 15 2008, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE(suiteng @ May 15 2008, 01:44 PM) Perodua Noti Car. then again , you get the debate of local vs cbu and 5 seater vs 7 seater ... Comes with a noti pricetag. Top up a bit can buy Rush liao wor.. |
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May 15 2008, 02:01 PM
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Later gonna test drive for fun.
Got fren work at showroom |
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May 15 2008, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(suiteng @ May 15 2008, 02:01 PM) Later gonna test drive for fun. take vedeo plz Got fren work at showroom |
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May 15 2008, 03:02 PM
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hmm lets c...
around tht price, any other cbu 4wd available? |
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May 15 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Ultima @ May 15 2008, 03:02 PM) hmm lets c... i think the closest would be the vitara , but its about rm100k+ if i am correct .around tht price, any other cbu 4wd available? |
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May 15 2008, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 15 2008, 03:21 PM) i think the closest would be the vitara , but its about rm100k+ if i am correct . oh i c, around 10k++ diff...wth, ill take vitara instead as its proven reliable |
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May 15 2008, 07:39 PM
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and the vitara looks more handsome compared to this cute nautica.
but that vitara is 4X2 instead of 4X4. |
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May 15 2008, 08:40 PM
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QUOTE(suiteng @ May 15 2008, 01:44 PM) Perodua Noti Car. I thought about the same price, need to top up meh ? Comes with a noti pricetag. Top up a bit can buy Rush liao wor.. |
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May 16 2008, 10:26 AM
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depending which range of Rush you take, lowest range is cheaper that Nautica
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May 16 2008, 11:21 AM
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nice car....
but cant afford... sien already.... |
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May 16 2008, 12:15 PM
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rush-88k
nautica-90k what the heck?our national car shud be less price coz no tax.the price shud same with langkawi and labuan.CBU also build by car worker.the different is from japan.they use human to build also.not an ultraman.lol |
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May 16 2008, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(neojack @ May 16 2008, 12:15 PM) rush-88k actually perodua has'nt got the title of national car yet according to one of their senior staff...................because their car need to be 70% local parts n assy then only can get the title.....................nautica? they just change logo, grill n front bumper only maaa...................maybe a few other things as well..................nautica-90k what the heck?our national car shud be less price coz no tax.the price shud same with langkawi and labuan.CBU also build by car worker.the different is from japan.they use human to build also.not an ultraman.lol |
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May 16 2008, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(suiteng @ May 15 2008, 01:44 PM) Perodua Noti Car. I think the price tag is way too high. I mean if it comes to practicality, people will rather get the Rush instead of the Nautica because of the price and the spaciousness of the Rush. And 4x4 really minum petrol oh... Comes with a noti pricetag. Top up a bit can buy Rush liao wor..QUOTE(wlp9185 @ May 16 2008, 02:18 PM) actually perodua has'nt got the title of national car yet according to one of their senior staff...................because their car need to be 70% local parts n assy then only can get the title.....................nautica? they just change logo, grill n front bumper only maaa...................maybe a few other things as well.................. Besides, the engine is the same engine as the one used in the Rush. |
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May 17 2008, 06:51 PM
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i heard that this car is fully imported from Japan. Is it true? Then why the price is so high? Any user here share the experience about wat is so great bout this car?
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May 21 2008, 01:41 AM
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what the heck perodua with rm90k+ price tag?? im really pissed off.. for me it's a shame..
~~perodua kembara driver, proton supporter~~ Added on May 21, 2008, 1:44 amsomething i wanna add.. *quoted from member comment from paultan blog* Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind … sounds so much like it. lol. Perodua’s greedy, flesh eating, bone spitting, or shall I say, money eating, bone eating, spit nothing machine has been mobilized. The greedy executives and shareholders of Perodua finally gave in to the alluring world of big-quick-bucks and I-don’t-give-a-sh*t to the rest of the dumb*ss, oh-so-naive Malaysians.  This post has been edited by mutt: May 21 2008, 01:44 AM |
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May 21 2008, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(wlp9185 @ May 16 2008, 02:18 PM) actually perodua has'nt got the title of national car yet according to one of their senior staff...................because their car need to be 70% local parts n assy then only can get the title.....................nautica? they just change logo, grill n front bumper only maaa...................maybe a few other things as well.................. one thing for sure... it'll be undergoing perodua's local malaysian standard of maintenance... |
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May 21 2008, 11:01 PM
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Any Perodua salesman here..how many nautica have been sold until now?
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May 22 2008, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(BeatIt @ May 21 2008, 11:01 PM) Any Perodua salesman here..how many nautica have been sold until now? not to be skeptical, but i wonder that this model can sell more than 100 units per month? |
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May 28 2008, 01:29 PM
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i seriously dun think it can sell.
I understand its 4WD but how many actually buy it for that purpose and comparing with the likes of Toyota Rush which has a 7 seater option with a Toyota brand and Grand Livina which has the comfort and looks and both with similiar price.... Just because its Made in Japan and 4WD doesn't (to me) worth the price tag... |
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May 29 2008, 11:00 PM
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I predict this month sale not even reach 20 units.
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May 30 2008, 09:43 AM
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what's the diff between Jap CBU and Indon CKD? as long as the car have warranty, then it's not a prob. build quality? do u think all CBU Merc or BMW or Volvo no prob at all? my 4 years kembara (Msia CKD) still serve me well since day 1..
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May 30 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(mutt @ May 22 2008, 12:37 AM) not to be skeptical, but i wonder that this model can sell more than 100 units per month? P2 is just targeting 200 units per months |
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Jun 1 2008, 10:13 PM
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According to news today if the sales hit to 1,000 units per month then Perodua will consider to set up local assembly line.
I think it is too difficult to acheive the 1,000 units since the price tag is high. |
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Jun 1 2008, 11:00 PM
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why dont they just set up a local assembly at the 1st place?? sure can sell if the price is 60-70k range..
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Jun 1 2008, 11:15 PM
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If i were to pick a car don't care 2wd or 4wd, sedan sport what so ever... above 80k for this car?!?! damn i rather go for something like vios, city etc... I quite ok with the design when i first saw thn i see the price tag immediately... walk away...
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Jun 2 2008, 01:01 AM
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The problem is just because of the Perodua logo .. I bet no one will say this car is expensive if it have a Toyota or Daihatsu logo even it is going to be a CKD unit in Malaysia
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Jun 2 2008, 01:19 AM
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to know that perodua selling car almost RM100k really hard to accept.. it's not because the logo itself.. it's because why perodua wanna sell car almost RM100k? they suppose to sell car that affordable for average Malaysian.. what's the point to bring CBU and rebadged?
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Jun 2 2008, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE(kornelius @ Jun 1 2008, 11:15 PM) If i were to pick a car don't care 2wd or 4wd, sedan sport what so ever... above 80k for this car?!?! damn i rather go for something like vios, city etc... I quite ok with the design when i first saw thn i see the price tag immediately... walk away... Yeah, 90k++, I would rather buy Vios/City also. I c no point to buy this car at all, those who buy it r just simply giving their support to P2 only. |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:21 PM
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Vios and City is a different league compared to Nautica.. 4X4 SUV compared to a sedan? be realistic. it is still the cheapest CBU 4X4.
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Jun 2 2008, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(DaViDcHiN @ Jun 2 2008, 01:28 AM) Yeah, 90k++, I would rather buy Vios/City also. vios is a cheap car..i mean the previous version one.. I c no point to buy this car at all, those who buy it r just simply giving their support to P2 only. rally dam cheap..quality like proton only..this rosak that rosak..got sound some more... malaysian thinking = moon at oversea is brighter |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(GodsLove @ May 28 2008, 01:29 PM) i seriously dun think it can sell. i very much agree wit u.. even if its 4wd, wat good is it gonna do anyway?? its not meant 2 do serious offroadin, its 4wd system could only cope wit very light minor offroading.. if u want it as a family car, the rush or the grand livina is a much practical proposition.. n if u only want a 5 seater family car, wats exactly is the matter wit a myvi or a persona?? yes, i admit the nautica has a much better interior than the rush, which is a big let down 4 the rush coz its really cheapo looking.. but, trust me, its a better option..I understand its 4WD but how many actually buy it for that purpose and comparing with the likes of Toyota Rush which has a 7 seater option with a Toyota brand and Grand Livina which has the comfort and looks and both with similiar price.... Just because its Made in Japan and 4WD doesn't (to me) worth the price tag... that is y i still maintain my opinion that the rush is the one 2 go for.. |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ May 30 2008, 09:59 AM) P2 is just targeting 200 units per months That is very little! Not sure how much profit they make from the 200 units sale! |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 2 2008, 03:52 PM) That is very little! Not sure how much profit they make from the 200 units sale! i thinkt they just wan to make the brand become branded? |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(Εdi8888 @ Jun 2 2008, 03:53 PM) i thinkt they just wan to make the brand become branded? Not understand what you meant! |
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Jun 2 2008, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 2 2008, 03:54 PM) Not understand what you meant! i mean maybe they lunch nautica..is just wan to make P2 become branded....not like cheap cheap p1... |
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Jun 2 2008, 04:01 PM
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*cough*
import myvi CBU from Japan la 80k selling price branded ma and see got people buy or not la *cough* |
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Jun 2 2008, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(kcng @ Jun 2 2008, 04:01 PM) *cough* i sure got people will buy... since myvi is not cheap at this price, myvi can consider expensive liao.. but..everyone still going for it...import myvi CBU from Japan la 80k selling price branded ma and see got people buy or not la *cough* |
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Jun 2 2008, 04:11 PM
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because that was at 55k
80k? u think vios with a real toyota badge and city with a real honda badge plastic ar? |
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Jun 2 2008, 11:22 PM
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i will buy 80k myvi.. if...
80k baht or 80k rupiah or 80k peso or80k ringgit with 30 yeas installment with no interest rate.. im not intending to talk crap here.. but this is reality ma.. i dont think p2 fanboy willing to buy for 80k ringgit.. in the end, still kena makan asap with p1 cps savvy as well This post has been edited by mutt: Jun 2 2008, 11:23 PM |
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Jun 10 2008, 09:28 PM
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what is the fc?
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Aug 30 2008, 11:44 AM
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fuel consumption..
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Aug 30 2008, 11:47 AM
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Top gear reviewed this Nautica, but it's badge is a daihatsu terios.. Go have a look.
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Oct 6 2008, 06:54 AM
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no forumer review this car?
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Oct 6 2008, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE(soapbottling @ Oct 6 2008, 06:54 AM) no forumer review this car? i never seen one the road  |
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Oct 6 2008, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(soapbottling @ Oct 6 2008, 06:54 AM) no forumer review this car? No worth to review. Better review T.Rush(Ori design) with 7 seat. |
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Oct 6 2008, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(tplcaik @ Oct 6 2008, 11:00 AM) No worth to review. Better review T.Rush(Ori design) with 7 seat. toyota rush is not the original diahatsu terios as terios was designed as orignally 5 seater compact SUV whereby toyota rush is using exiting avanza platform.nautica is an imported CBU with only cosmetic changes when came here like the perodua badge, the bumper and the steering wheel for an instance. when you look underneath the hood, its daihatsu spare parts all over. if wan information about the review, ya, check out under daihatsu terios because this car was launched during 2005. only ppl with shallow mind thinks its a new SUV manufactured by perodua, double standard This post has been edited by elru: Oct 6 2008, 11:25 AM |
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Oct 6 2008, 08:28 PM
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this car is totally a failure product ever produced by perodua...
until now i hv never seen 1, CANNOT FIND EVEN 1...! but rush possible... |
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Oct 6 2008, 10:00 PM
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hmm 1 in taman tun and the other one in kota damansara. both grey.
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Oct 19 2008, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 6 2008, 10:00 PM) hmm 1 in taman tun and the other one in kota damansara. both grey. found 1 at ldp highway..black. |
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Oct 19 2008, 11:20 AM
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ive seen only 1 nautica in kuching on the road...
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Oct 19 2008, 12:16 PM
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Seen few in KL. Ya, it is the "original" car compared to the Rush. Minus the cosmetic changes, I think its quality fared much better than the Rush, and not many people with their crowd-mindedness accept this fact.
Well, most Malaysian are brand-conscious and crowd-minded anyway. |
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Oct 19 2008, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 12:16 PM) Seen few in KL. Ya, it is the "original" car compared to the Rush. Minus the cosmetic changes, I think its quality fared much better than the Rush, and not many people with their crowd-mindedness accept this fact. yup, very true.Well, most Malaysian are brand-conscious and crowd-minded anyway. i think the statistic shown that lately no many ppl favor small 4WD as it is high on FC and not really that practical, that is why perodua stop manufacturing the ancient kembara. instead, if the market really need one, they just import the nautica. and if they can import it cheap and sell it cheap, why not? because they cant. so now they most probably focus on the sales of myvi. besides, remember the imported suzuki swift first selling here at 80k plus? small car with that kind of price and yet ppl still bought it without complaining. because its suzuki, like jazz and yaris all imported. but if its perodua, they bash. again, double standard. seen another one in starhill car park few days ago, black. |
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Oct 19 2008, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 12:16 PM) Seen few in KL. Ya, it is the "original" car compared to the Rush. Minus the cosmetic changes, I think its quality fared much better than the Rush, and not many people with their crowd-mindedness accept this fact. are you sure its original? not the Daihatsu?Well, most Malaysian are brand-conscious and crowd-minded anyway. lets take it this way, Perodua try to make impact with their first expensive car, and they failed reason? who need full time 4wd in a "city" looking SUV? |
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Oct 19 2008, 03:33 PM
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And how do you know people don't need a cheap full-time 4WD?
Different car catered for different individual you know. About the original part, it is a Daihatsu bearing a Perodua badge. It's a marketing strategy under the Head Company. Well, I might be wrong anyway. |
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Oct 19 2008, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 03:33 PM) And how do you know people don't need a cheap full-time 4WD? can you list how many full time 4wd there on the road? well in Sabah Sarawak they got a lot la Different car catered for different individual you know. About the original part, it is a Daihatsu bearing a Perodua badge. It's a marketing strategy under the Head Company. Well, I might be wrong anyway. yeah its a Daihatsu with Perodua badge, so why u say its "original" compared to Suzzy Rush? |
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Oct 19 2008, 04:03 PM
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Because the Rush is using the Avanza's platform instead of the Terios? And that the Terios was originally meant for 5-seater?
If I'm wrong then I humbly apologize here |
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Oct 19 2008, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 04:03 PM) Because the Rush is using the Avanza's platform instead of the Terios? And that the Terios was originally meant for 5-seater? its still not original, it will be ori if it does come with Daihatsu badge If I'm wrong then I humbly apologize here |
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Oct 19 2008, 04:07 PM
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LOL...... go go buy a daihatsu badge and get the bumpers from chop shop
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Oct 19 2008, 04:59 PM
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rush is from indon only 2wd
nautica is from japan with 4wd nautica more original because it built in japan daihatsu factory and with 4wd |
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Oct 19 2008, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 03:33 PM) And how do you know people don't need a cheap full-time 4WD? lol if you really need a real full time 4WD, u dun buy it cheap, as there is a saying "you pay what you get". kembara is not really suitable for off road. its rather fragile. tats explain why tat are lots of hilux, storm,...etc. im not sure about nautica though.Different car catered for different individual you know. About the original part, it is a Daihatsu bearing a Perodua badge. It's a marketing strategy under the Head Company. Well, I might be wrong anyway. and if there are ppl who can afford to pay for the expensive FC for 4WD, would they even consider a cheap 4WD? or if you saying for makcik doing business, opening up stalls, so need a 4WD, erm it doesnt carry as much as vans or MPV, and why pay for the high FC where theres other cheaper sedan can do the same job rite? anyway, its true there are ppl might wan to buy cheap SUV, but i think its rather minority, at least in msia |
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Oct 19 2008, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(ShinAsakura @ Oct 19 2008, 04:07 PM) LOL...... go go buy a daihatsu badge and get the bumpers from chop shop er..if the Pro2 NaughtyCar is more "original" then the Suzzy...why the Suzzy is selling wayyy better then the Pro2?and if full time 4wd is the "in demand" thing rite now...why cant we see more of the Pro2 otr? |
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Oct 19 2008, 08:52 PM
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I don't understand why some people are stupid enough to buy the Nautica as a car to get from point A to point B. Why the hell they need full time 4WD on city? LOL.
Even those pick ups and certain 4x4s in urban areas are switched to rear wheel drive. Furthermore, the Nautica isn't cheap in the first place. Secondly it is not even large. And thirdly, it's not even that powerful. As for kembaras, there are still some contractors using them, but most of them have switched to pick ups such as Hilux, Triton and D-Max. |
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Oct 20 2008, 09:26 AM
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This SUV is in the category of a cheaper option compared to RAV4, CRV & Freelander, mostly for auntie-use in urban area. In western countries it's a safer option for them due to the slightly off-terrain/snow, in Malaysia usually for the poth-hole laden roads & slippery/flooded roads, it's just a safer option for aunties here compared to cars.
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Nov 9 2008, 09:07 AM
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QUOTE(elru @ Oct 6 2008, 11:18 AM) toyota rush is not the original diahatsu terios as terios was designed as orignally 5 seater compact SUV whereby toyota rush is using exiting avanza platform. There you go.nautica is an imported CBU with only cosmetic changes when came here like the perodua badge, the bumper and the steering wheel for an instance. when you look underneath the hood, its daihatsu spare parts all over. if wan information about the review, ya, check out under daihatsu terios because this car was launched during 2005. only ppl with shallow mind thinks its a new SUV manufactured by perodua, double standard |
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Nov 9 2008, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Oct 19 2008, 08:44 PM) er..if the Pro2 NaughtyCar is more "original" then the Suzzy...why the Suzzy is selling wayyy better then the Pro2? Nautica is the cheapest CBU import from Japan (cost 45 to 50k in Japan). With the current Nautica price against the current Yen rate.. it is considered even cheaper... you pay approx RM30k in taxes and transport only and a few non-essential pieces of Malaysian made plastic. and if full time 4wd is the "in demand" thing rite now...why cant we see more of the Pro2 otr? Suzzy is a CBU from Indo which enjoy a lower tax bracket (then from Japan) you also pay approx 30k in taxes. Nautica, by right, should be tax higher, but Nautica had to be priced competitively to Rush, so gov. took a tax cut in earnings for Pro2. So u pay approx the same taxes to the gov., but with Nautica you get a Japan built quality/better interior/safety and the satisfaction that gov. had to make an exception in tax for a CBU Jap car. An AWD Nautica is safer to drive in wet conditions, more grip, probably minimal increase in fuel consumption (but Nautica may weight slightly less than Suzzy Rush) The suzzy higher demand is because of the Toyota brand name and people's ignorance to the actual value of the car. Nautica also suffers from limited AP being granted to import from JP. This post has been edited by BeastX: Nov 9 2008, 09:39 AM |
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QUOTE(ch1ck3n @ May 10 2008, 04:08 PM) the question back to you is when are YOU gonna grow up? That was not an inmature comment. It is people like you who has not accepted reality. Proton is the reason why we do not have free and fair competition. Trust me I drive a Proton Waja and the car is only 2 years old and the power window does not work. My God that car was launched in 2001 and Proton can't even make a decent power window. The biggest joke is they want to get involved in F1.immature comment. That is the problem again with the typical Malaysian "Entrepeneur". Making a fast buck out of the Public. |
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Oct 24 2009, 11:26 PM
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blame the power window vendor...
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Oct 25 2009, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(JoLee @ Oct 24 2009, 11:14 PM) That was not an inmature comment. It is people like you who has not accepted reality. Proton is the reason why we do not have free and fair competition. Trust me I drive a Proton Waja and the car is only 2 years old and the power window does not work. My God that car was launched in 2001 and Proton can't even make a decent power window. The biggest joke is they want to get involved in F1. dun worry, F1 doesn't need a window That is the problem again with the typical Malaysian "Entrepeneur". Making a fast buck out of the Public. |
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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Oct 25 2009, 12:17 AM) dun worry, F1 doesn't need a window I LOL'ed |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Oct 19 2008, 08:52 PM) I don't understand why some people are stupid enough to buy the Nautica as a car to get from point A to point B. Why the hell they need full time 4WD on city? LOL. I believe all pick-up in Malaysia will have to run rear 2WD on urban roads because they do not have central-diff. or termed as partial 4WD. Big-Horns and Everest are partial 4WD also... Fortuner, Pajero Sport (Pardo/LC) are capable of Full-Time 4WD on all conditions.Even those pick ups and certain 4x4s in urban areas are switched to rear wheel drive. Furthermore, the Nautica isn't cheap in the first place. Secondly it is not even large. And thirdly, it's not even that powerful. As for kembaras, there are still some contractors using them, but most of them have switched to pick ups such as Hilux, Triton and D-Max. |
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Jan 22 2010, 11:24 PM
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How many of you who actually 'see' Nautica on the road?
I think I have only seen less than 10 times this car on the road since its lauching, even that probably the same car! I think Perodua should do something to achieve their 200 car per month target. Added on January 27, 2010, 10:23 pmAnyone selling his/her Nautica? Pls let me know.... This post has been edited by frankzane: Jan 27 2010, 10:23 PM |
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Mar 16 2011, 01:34 PM
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On their website, it is not even listed in their 'car' section any longer. Have they discontinued selling them?
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Mar 16 2011, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Mar 16 2011, 01:34 PM) On their website, it is not even listed in their 'car' section any longer. Have they discontinued selling them? its not selling anymore if not mistaken ..told by perodua SA |
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Mar 17 2011, 09:24 AM
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i think no..because nawtica is CBU..thats why the price same like Rush
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Nov 12 2011, 01:14 AM
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I just saw this car in Penang carpark, with a pretty new Penang number plate (PH* ). Perodua started selling this car again? I must say it looks pretty good and probably the toughest looking perodua car yet.
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Nov 12 2011, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Nov 12 2011, 01:14 AM) I just saw this car in Penang carpark, with a pretty new Penang number plate (PH* ). Perodua started selling this car again? I must say it looks pretty good and probably the toughest looking perodua car yet. CBU mah... |
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why dont you consider the mutsubishi triton lite that truck is cheap and big
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