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post Mar 11 2008, 06:37 PM, updated 17y ago

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post Mar 11 2008, 06:59 PM

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Those numbers r sick...

U r crazy ~!! Pizzaboy.... Wicked ~!!!!

Congrats ~!
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post Mar 11 2008, 07:58 PM

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You are one sick ass.
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post Mar 11 2008, 08:42 PM

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yeah one sick ass. and this is the 4th journal of yours
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post Mar 11 2008, 11:28 PM

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ERh...not true. There are two six feet, 71KG lifters that CNJ 125KG and front squat 140KG's for a double. There's NOTHING insane my results really. Especially considering how the rest of them are performing.

My coach is saying that at my weight, a good squat is 190KG's or 2.5x bw. My squat is just a typical "Sai lou" squat. (Small boy squat) A very good squat, is 230KG (3x bw) And a elite level squat is about 260KG squat and above.

Wanna see a vid??


280 for a double. THere's a vid of him doin 310 as well.

Any normal man, SHOULD be able to squat 2.5x bodyweight with proper training. 2x bodyweight was pretty easy to achieve actually. Compared to breaking this stupid plateau ceiling of 2x bw and above, it's a walk in the park. Honestly.

Enough bullshit, tomorrow I need to get back to work. For those interested in a squat routine to increase your squats, ask. I'll upload one. It's a six week program. One is a Russian squat routine program. One is a program that I have no idea came from where. Also six weeks. For those that cannot handle the volume, spread it along 9 weeks, but add more accessory lifts during that period of breaks.


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And here's somethin for you jokers who think "I'm strong enough for any routine"

Read the comments. Personal opinion from me? Get some heat rubs and prepare for yourselves for the intensity. Always when u prepare yourself and overestimate the difficulty of the routine, it mentally becomes easier to finish.

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Those weights are scary as it is akin watching a good horror movie.

Keep up the good work.

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post Mar 12 2008, 01:28 PM

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Yo, could you post up the squat increment routine?
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post Mar 12 2008, 02:09 PM

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http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Weightl...mGenerator.html <--Russian Squat, mind you very difficult six week training cycle. Probably easier at the lower levels but it gets difficult when you're under a plateau.

http://www.joeskopec.com/smolov.html <---Smolov. The holy grail of squatting. 3 weeks cycle and you're guaranteed to raise your squats by at least 10KG's. However, that's ONLY AND ONLY IF you can finish it. I did till the third week, Monday cycle when I decided I couldn't do it anymore. I tore my "tensor fasciae latae",(I'm not trying to sound smart, I can't think of any way to describe it. The front of your ....hip? bah!) so badly, I couldn't walk properly. icon_question.gif

That hasn't included the insane amount of pain I had everyday for even 2 weeks after the failed Smolov cycle. And my squat, went DOWN cuz of injuries. SO be smart, train smart. flex.gif

For many people, that wanna focus mainly on increasing their squat numbers and getting thicker (bb'ing lah), actually....the stupid 20 rep squats and tonnes of calories may be the way to go. I can't do that because I need to train my oly lifts as well as for my martial arts, but for those of you who do nothing more than....sit, watch tv, study, online, chat and gym (and eat), this may actually be a good routine to use. nod.gif

U get thicker, lose bodyfat, get stronger and ....well yeah, it sounds like a great routine. TO breakdown the 20 rep squat;

3 days a week training. (1-3-5 or 2-4-6)
Warm-up with squats
Do your 20 rep squat training
Rest
Every workout, add 5LBS.


So Monday, you'll do;


2x10x135LBS
1x20x225LBS

Wednesday;


2x10x135LBS
1x20x230LBS

Simple right? Yeah, somebody please try this for me and tell me the results. =D

I intend to use it one day, after October 2008 because I'll have my internship from June to October.

PS: Ppl don't usually recommend cookie cutter programs......but I suppose for a specific purpose such as increase squats, it can be acceptable. biggrin.gif G'luck mother'fathers! brows.gif
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You only squat ? No other exercises? or you just include this in your routines?
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post Mar 12 2008, 03:07 PM

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I'm trying to increase my squats at the moment. I'm a squat fanatic you see. Squats increase the strength of your entire body. So yes I love squatting.

At the moment, my routine is based on the squat. Everything revolves around increasing my squats. When I'm done with this routine, I'll be paying more attention into increasing my clean and jerks, with my training revolving around increasing my CNJ. I've noticed that if I focus on increasing all my lifts, I end up with nothing.

However when I concentrate on increasing one COMPOUND lift, my other lifts will go up together. So now, that's how I train. That's actually what my coach noticed, not me. As he saw my snatches increase, he pointed out that my speed also went up, my upper body strengthened and I can handstand, handwalk and do handstand push-ups better.

He also noticed that when my deadlifts hit 400LBS, everything else fell. I didn't get stronger, so we discussed and came to the conclusion that I avoid deadlifting except to check my PR's, and do deadlifts in higher repetitions and use deadlifts as my "assistance" exercise for all other compound lifts.

He points that my torso length, makes deadlifting, extremely difficult but makes me excellent for CNJ's because of my shorter legs that can produce much more force if I can explode my speed more. So right now, point 1, increase squats. Point 2, increase CNJ and while doing that, blow my speed too. =D
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See, I am a big fan of squats as well. What I actually meant was the routine you posted up on the 20 rep squat training.

I might end up giving this a shot but I just need to have a clearer picture on the routines which is wanting me to ask this..just squats? I do however understand that squats give you a total body strength. Like I said, I would appreciate if you could enlighten me a little bit on the routine that you posted up.


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the squat routine is just for u to put in into your own program. u can add in any accessories for chest or back or arms day into it with the squat routine.

ps : looking at the smolov routine alone can tear my quads up. 4x9x196 on the first day? wat da fark? my max is 280 by the way. and the last session is 10x3x270lbs. holy shit. 3 reps of 10lbs less than my 1rm, 10 sets of it? in 3 weeks? wat?

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post Mar 12 2008, 11:27 PM

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Okay, here's the thing about the 20 rep squat.

- Find something you can squat for 20 repetitions for a set
- Add 5LBS to that 20 repetitions every workout
- Warm up accordingly BEFORE the 20 reps
- After you're done huffing puffing through the 20 reps, execute a few sets of bench presses or behind the neck jerks or pull-ups. Up to you
- Repeat every Monday, Wednesday, Friday
- Be sure NOT to skimp on calories. Eat aplenty.

Take about 2 or 3 exercises from what is classify as "Money" exercises

What's a Money Exercise? (I took this from somewhere, T-nation I think)

A money exercise has the following characteristics:
1) It's a multi-joint exercise: The more articulations in the movement the better.
2) It's a multi-muscle exercise: The more muscle mass is involved in an exercise the better.
3) It's an accelerative exercise: The greater the possibility to accelerate during an exercise the better it is.
4) It's a "target" exercise: The more an exercise uses muscles needed in sports the better.

Note that these characteristics are in order of importance.

These include; take a pick

-Power clean
-Power snatch
-Cleans from blocks
-Variation jerks
-Bench presses
-Variations of deadlifts
-Squats (duh)
-Pull-ups
-Dips (Not so much, but okay)
-Snatch and CNJ



250LBS x 3, Final Set of Six sets. Poosah! I has found my weak spot.
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post Mar 13 2008, 01:55 AM

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Squat Warm-Ups


45LBS x 10 (Overhead Squats)
140LBS x 5
170LBS x 2
220LBS x 1
250LBS x 1
265LBS x 1
310LBS x 1
330LBS x 1 (WALKOUT ONLY)

Russian Squat Routine:


250LBS x 6 x 3

Bench Program

8 x 1-3 Singles Benches

30 rep bench close grip @ 100LBS

Dumbbell Bench Press @ 20KG x 15 reps x 3 sets

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my turn for 225x6x3 later after work today rclxub.gif
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I've loads of pics of my gym today, just went to snap snap.
Also three videos. One of a 95KG squatting 140KG for five
One of 52KG squatting 140KG double
One of a 69kg squatting 150KG for a single...I think fail...
and a few other bomb outs. Hehehe
wait up for it later
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Dude, forgot to ask, the Russian Squats, you insert in poundage or kilos erk?

If you look at the last column of the russian squats on week 6 day 3. what do they mean by 105% increment on squats? does it mean for example if its 95kilos. I should prob hit ard 200 kilos on max rep??

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 13 2008, 08:35 PM)
I've loads of pics of my gym today, just went to snap snap.
Also three videos. One of a 95KG squatting 140KG for five
One of 52KG squatting 140KG double
One of a 69kg squatting 150KG for a single...I think fail...
and a few other bomb outs. Hehehe
wait up for it later
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he/she is a elite athlete? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Mar 13 2008, 10:27 PM)
Dude, forgot to ask, the Russian Squats, you insert in poundage or kilos erk?

If you look at the last column of the russian squats on week 6 day 3. what do they mean by 105% increment on squats? does it mean for example if its 95kilos. I should prob hit ard 200 kilos on max rep??
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Something tells me your maths isn't the best tongue.gif

If 100% of 100KG=100KG la
IF 105% of 100KG= +5KG. So 105KG.


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he/she is a elite athlete?  notworthy.gif
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He's pretty good. Got 2 gold and 1 silver in Danga Bay last february. Gold for CNJ and total. Snatch=silver.


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Say hello to them. The second boy has a deeper squat. He's damnned flexible, the fat one not so.


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Thursday's Training

Overhead Press

1x8x60KG

Push-Press

1x3x70KG
1x3x72KG
1x2x75KG
1x2x80KG - PR!

Clean Pulls

40KG x 3
60KG x 3
80KG x 2
100KG x 1
110KG x 0 (Fail)
110KG x 1 (PR)
115KG x 1 (PR)
120KG x 1 (PR)
122KG x 1 (PR)

Verli Nice, two pr's in a day.
Clean pull PR's are because I don't usually do clean pulls, so I guess something sparked my form improvement.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 14 2008, 12:05 AM)
Something tells me your maths isn't the best tongue.gif

If 100% of 100KG=100KG la
IF 105% of 100KG= +5KG. So 105KG.
He's pretty good. Got 2 gold and 1 silver in Danga Bay last february. Gold for CNJ and total. Snatch=silver.
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Nah, the whole generator thing was just messing with me last night. But yeah, my math isnt the state of the art level. tongue.gif thanks mate
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how low do u go for push press? clean pull is from the ground or from hang clean position?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 14 2008, 11:34 AM)
how low do u go for push press? clean pull is from the ground or from hang clean position?
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From the floor.
Push press goes about 1/4 knee bend. Like a quarter squat.
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nice. clean pull is same with high pulls right? a supplement exercise for snatch
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 14 2008, 04:49 PM)
nice. clean pull is same with high pulls right? a supplement exercise for snatch
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A high pull (actually wat I did was a squat clean from box) is with your arms closer together. Then apart from dat it's the same la. But what I did was actually, a clean, from a box position. Dat's the difference

i'll upload today's workout later


Added on March 17, 2008, 10:38 amSunday, 16 March 08 (Trained at Menara Axis FF, blek!)

Warmups

40KG x 10
60KG x 5
90KG x 3
100KG x 1
110KG x 1
130KG x 1
140KG x 1
150KG x (walkout only hehehe)

Fast Clean N Jerks

60KG x 2 x 2

Russian Squat Routine

115KG x 6 x 4 reps

Overhead Press

60KG x 2 x 5

Dumbbell Bench Presses

85LBS/hand x 3 x 5

Incline Bench

60KG x 7
80KG x 2 x 5

Bleh....my review of FF?

- If wanna buy bumper plates, buy la standard oly size bumper plaaaaatesss!!
- I seriously DON'T like seeing naked men walking cock naked.
- Why the hell are all the posters in the men's locker room, pictures of MEN? Something is very wrong here.
- Whats wrong with the dumbbell grip? It's so difficult to hold it properly cuz of it's fat middle part. Not like!


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bah....bump
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yeah the stupid dumbbells with fat grip in the middle. sucks. i hate them.

how did u manage to enter manara axis?

and yeah u coming this weekened? we might be able to pay a visit to truefitness in jaya33.. we've got a sales guy there.. hehehe.. call ija along..
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i has a friend =D
with those platinium passes and all dat...so he just brought me in

I'm still here ya know, in damansara though....stuckkkkkkkkkkk carless!
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can bring me along into FF?? brows.gif
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Warm ups

Squats:

40KG x 10
60KG x 5
80KG x 3
100KG x 1
110KG x 1
130KG x 1
140KG x 1
150KG x 1 (This......was super weird, because it was supposed to be 140KG but I miscalculated. Thus I have a PR....in week 2?)

Training Begins
Russian Squat Routine

6x2x115KG (It's still easy, I wonder how's things gonna happen when I go in week 4)

BTN Jerks

60KG x 5 x 3

Barbell Rows

60KG x 6 x 10-12

Bench Press

90KG x 5 x 5

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why do u do 95% of 1rm squat in warm up?
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QUOTE(jones007 @ Mar 20 2008, 07:00 AM)
why do u do 95% of 1rm squat in warm up?
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Simple.
To trick the nervous system. Tells the body it's got some seriously heavy weights to handle, then drop to only 80% of maxes. The body doesn't understand the change, so it still prepares itself for 100% weights.

And, 1 rep squatting has always been the weightlifters tool for supreme strength.

And, my coach recommends it, and he squats 270KG's @ 69KG's. Dare I dispute him? NO wayyyyy
Strange thing is why these guys squat so super high, but they aren't the world champs anymore. Dammit..


Added on March 20, 2008, 9:18 amalso if ur thinking of doing the same, i recommend taking it a lil slow first...That entire warmup set usually lasts about 3 minutes, because I wanna quickly finish my Russian squats.

Use singles on your heavier sets, don't go more than a single. It's tempting to, because you'll feel stronger at the beginning. But don't go more than a single.

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uhh maybe i'll try that on friday.. but its gonna be a lot of rest between my max warm up and the russian sets.

how long u take to finish a 6x4 set? the last time took me around 25 minutes lol
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6x4 took about 15 minutes. Somebody else wanted to use the squat rack at FF that time, so I didn't rest too long for my final 2 sets. (And what did they do with the squat rack? BiCEP CURLS!)
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most of the time they ask me how many sets until i'm done, i ask them what are they gonna do. if its not squat or MP, i'll say i have a lot more to go.
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Pizza, how long have you been on the RSP? Is this the 2nd time or what?
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i think its his 3rd time
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Mar 20 2008, 06:38 PM)
Pizza, how long have you been on the RSP? Is this the 2nd time or what?
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3rd including this. The lame part is, the last two times that I finish this Russian Squat, nicely my gf comes back to M'sia. So I hardly spend time in the gym, cuz I'm spending time with her. And then I slide back down again. This is the third time I'm doing it, with the same amount of weights, so it's actually gotten very easy. Lol!

I hope it still produces results nevertheless.


Added on March 21, 2008, 12:09 amToday's "Training"

Wall Climbing

1 hour

Kejar-kejar

30 minutes. Yes, we're 21 years old and we still play kejar-kejar in the field. It was tremendously difficult compared to last time when we were kids, we're much faster, but can't stop as well. Lol!

Handstand work

Handstand push-ups for 3 sets of 10-15
Handwalks around the house while flipping switches off

Pushups

500 push-ups in 2 hours. Chatting and push-up. LoL!

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Friday (21-3-08)


Warm Up (Squats):

40KG x 10 (Overhead Squats)
100KG x 5
120KG x 3
140KG x 0 (Was feeling weak today, dumped the weights at parallel)

Russian Squat Routine

115KG (255LBS) x 6 x 5

Comments: Squats was actually quite easy, after the failed 140KG, it felt very easy, very strong. The first two sets were hardest and the rest were quite light

Flat Benches

50KG x 10
80KG x 5
90KG x 5
90KG x 5

Barbell Rows

50KG x 5 x 10-12 reps

Comments: I'm slowly relearning how to row. I've been doing it rather wrong, learning to keep back stable with no rocking. Learning to use the lats instead of traps.

Rack Deadlifts (Rack Pulls From Knee)

100KG x 5
120KG x 5
140KG x 5
170KG x 5
180KG x 2 (Extremely difficult because of a tired grip.)
190KG x 1 (Conceded defeat and used straps instead)


All in all, it's been a very interesting session today. I seem to have learnt how to "f*ck" the bar when I do rack pulls. That's helped the bar jump, faster. It's quite nice when you learn the right way. Then, my body's a little tired after that silly rack pull session. Feeling a little spent, which doesn't happen very often. I definitely like the feeling, but now i'm typing with my eyes half closed and yawning.

Post workout meal was a 200GM steak and potatoes, and dinner was some squid, boiled. I'm now sleepy and I'll retire to the bed.


Added on March 22, 2008, 12:09 amhttp://it.youtube.com/watch?v=HMY6mxdP0MQ

now u owe it to urself to take a f***in look at this vid

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Hossein Rezezadeh.. one hell of a fat ass.. FS 270kg lol... for a double =.=
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Warm Ups

10 overhead squats

Squats Warmup

60KG x 5
110KG x 3
120KG x 1
130KG x 1
140KG x 0 (Cudn't even reach depth)\

Russian Squat Routine

6x2x115KG

*This twas easy. I'm wondering how I'm going through with Wednesday. Oh lord....

Felt shitty, so decided to play around the gym with nothing significant. Good night.
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6x6?? lets do them babe! i'm doing them tomorrow!
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Warmup Squats

40KG x 10
80KG x 5
90KG x 3
110KG x 1
120KG x 1
130KG x 1
140KG x 1
145KG x 1 (hehe, these PR's are strangely easy)

Russian Squat

115KGx6x6

Okay, I took nearly one hour to complete from the warmup all the way to the 6x6.

Legs were shivering and my back is somewhat weak, as in it's my weak point. I've to find a way to correct that

I went home right after.
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Russian Squat

6x2x115KG

No prior warmups. Didn't feel like it

Dumbbell Bench Press

30KG/hand x 10
30KG/hand x 10
40KG/hand x 5

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Say hello to them. The second boy has a deeper squat. He's damnned flexible, the fat one not so.
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is his form alright? his leg kinda crumble.. goin up.. which i think is incorrect
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QUOTE(che @ Mar 29 2008, 08:52 PM)
is his form alright? his leg kinda crumble.. goin up.. which i think is incorrect
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Obviously not optimal but that's not his major concern. It's just to help him rise from the hole in the snatch that's all. Squats numbers not all THAT focus to them. I'm the only one that trains my squats more rigorously at there. Heck when ur squatting almost thrice your bodyweight, searching the perfect form isn't all that easy. Even Benni's form isn't 100% when deadlifting his maxes. (Doesn't change the fact it's still bloody dammed good form)

Yesterday's Training (2 April 2008)
Should've done this on Monday, but I was down with diarrhea on Monday. So pushed Monday's training to Wednesday.

Squat

60KG x 20
100KG x 10

Russian Squat Routine
120KG x 5 x 5


Was actually, pretty easy towards the third set and last few sets. First two was hard but that's okay.

Did some dumbbell benches and pull-ups. Not that significant.

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Warm Ups

60KG x 7
90KG x 6
110KG x 2
130KG x 1
140KG x 1 (Sorta shaky)
145KG x 1 (Not too good either, but back has definitely significantly strengthened)

Russian Squat Routine

6x2x115KG

Easy. Really easy. Could even sit down rest 1/2 seconds and then only get up. Pretty good.

Overhead Press

60KG x 3
70KG x 1 x 3 (Sorta like a cluster set thing)

Benches

60KG x 10
70KG x 8
80KG x 7
90KG x 6
100KG x 5 (Repetition PR.....not bad...)
80KG x 8

Then I drove to the weightlifting gym because I wanted to get some chalk from mister coach. Ended up doing a little Oly lifts after, so here it is.

Snatches

40KG x 2 x 1
60KG x 2 x 1
70KG x 1 x 1
80KG x 5 x 1

Rack Deadlifts From Below Knee Cap

100KG x 5
120KG x 3
140KG x 3
160KG x 3
180KG x 2 (Grip failing down here, so switched to an over-under-chalked-wrist band-strap grip)
190KG x 1 (PR biggrin.gif )
200KG x 1/2 (Could break it off the rack, but couldn't lock it out)

Car Pushing @ Myvi 1.3 in forth gear

3 rounds of about 50 meters.

Took forever to get it moving, because it was on the field.

All in all, a very strenuous day. Sunday or Monday will be 3 sets of triples at 135KG's. And I was hitting 140KG for a single 4 weeks before, this is pretty crazy. Hmph! Here we go....

You know what post workout dinner was? Pork, chicken wings (about 12 wings . OF COURSE with skin), 2 protein shakes, bout 5-6 eggs, 8 sotongs and coconut water. Yipee yum yum! Then beer and whiskey while playing cards and listening to Bamboo Hut's singer go wild. I love Malacca!


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5th April 2008 ("Bodybuilding" type day)

Went to gym to get our shirts today. Then we decide to be silly and "bodybuild" a bit. Started from a guy doing squats for 20 reps as a challenge. Then everybody else tried. Lol! There was a lot of screaming and shouting and hyping up each other today.

Squats

60KG x 40 (10 was easy, 20 was still pretty easy, 30 was quite a challenge, 35 and onwards were screaming reps)

110KG x 20 (10 was tough as crap, 11 was cold, 12 was shaky, 13-15 were fast, 16 was wobbly, 17 was "I can't do this", 18 was "Cmon!!! 2 more" 19 and 20 were less eventful because it was like an adrenaline boom. I'm beat!!!!!)

Something tells me come Monday, I'm going to regret this tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
I wonder what's 135KG for 3 triples is going to feel. Legs felt like jelly right after that.

Even right now, I'm sweating. If that wasn't enough, we did some car pulling, 10-20-30-40-50 meter dashes for time and box jumps. Awesome workout today. Hahaha!! And preworkout was the best ever!

2 packets of Oreo. One oreo with peanuts and one just normal oreos. And 1 packet of HL milk (Who says I don't care about my macros) and 2 kit kat chunky bars and french fries with ice-cream. Peh! Shiok!! Try tasting how the oreos melt in your mouth when the HL milk flows in your mouth. Deliccccccccccccccccccciousieh!

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 6 2008, 01:18 AM)
5th April 2008 ("Bodybuilding" type day)

Went to gym to get our shirts today. Then we decide to be silly and "bodybuild" a bit. Started from a guy doing squats for 20 reps as a challenge. Then everybody else tried. Lol! There was a lot of screaming and shouting and hyping up each other today.

Squats

60KG x 40 (10 was easy, 20 was still pretty easy, 30 was quite a challenge, 35 and onwards were screaming reps)

110KG x 20 (10 was tough as crap, 11 was cold, 12 was shaky, 13-15 were fast, 16 was wobbly, 17 was "I can't do this", 18 was "Cmon!!! 2 more" 19 and 20 were less eventful because it was like an adrenaline boom. I'm beat!!!!!)

Something tells me come Monday, I'm going to regret this tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
I wonder what's 135KG for 3 triples is going to feel. Legs felt like jelly right after that.

Even right now, I'm sweating. If that wasn't enough, we did some car pulling, 10-20-30-40-50 meter dashes for time and box jumps. Awesome workout today. Hahaha!! And preworkout was the best ever!

2 packets of Oreo. One oreo with peanuts and one just normal oreos. And 1 packet of HL milk (Who says I don't care about my macros) and 2 kit kat chunky bars and french fries with ice-cream. Peh! Shiok!! Try tasting how the oreos melt in your mouth when the HL milk flows in your mouth. Deliccccccccccccccccccciousieh!

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60 reps of squats man. Have fun on Monday. heheheheh.
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Hi, good photos in this thread. Do you guys know where a weightlifting gym is in Kuala Lumpur? Somebody told me it's only in Bukit Jalil Sports Center, where the national team trains. Anywhere else in Kuala Lumpur, or nearby so I could at least train on weekends?
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QUOTE(olylift @ Apr 6 2008, 05:23 AM)
Hi, good photos in this thread. Do you guys know where a weightlifting gym is in Kuala Lumpur? Somebody told me it's only in Bukit Jalil Sports Center, where the national team trains. Anywhere else in Kuala Lumpur, or nearby so I could at least train on weekends?
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holy shit u joined today at 4.44am?????
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anyway........so many gyms around....

Petaling Jaya has quite afew..
SS2, even Near Kelana Jaya's Giant.

Sry..dont know their names =.= only know the place.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Apr 6 2008, 08:54 AM)
holy shit u joined today at 4.44am?????
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anyway........so many gyms around....

Petaling Jaya has quite afew..
SS2, even Near Kelana Jaya's Giant.

Sry..dont know their names =.= only know the place....  doh.gif
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I can't sleep until I find a good place to train smile.gif
So there are weightlifting gyms in Petaling Jaya? With bumpers? Sorry about the Korean picture, if you don't like it. It's Lee Jong Hoon 56 kg
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Your nickname's Olylift and U duno where to weightlift in KL? Where were you from? I personally only know that Bkt Jalil has the facility. They've much better floors for weightlifting too.

Apart from that I don't know of any other places IN KL that have these facilities. When I go for training tomorrow, I'll look for the phone number of the weightlifting assocs for each state and see if I can find one in KL.

I know dat guy above....56KG Worlds 2007 competitor or something right?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 6 2008, 09:58 AM)
Your nickname's Olylift and U duno where to weightlift in KL? Where were you from? I personally only know that Bkt Jalil has the facility. They've much better floors for weightlifting too.

Apart from that I don't know of any other places IN KL that have these facilities. When I go for training tomorrow, I'll look for the phone number of the weightlifting assocs for each state and see if I can find one in KL.

I know dat guy above....56KG Worlds 2007 competitor or something right?
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The reason I don't know where to lift in KL is cuz I'm not Malaysian, but I am coming to KL with family for some time

I just wonder if tha place at Bukit Jalil would even allow me to train with them there, because I am told its for the national team, and I am not so good

Thank you for offering to look for other places, it is hard for me to figure this out because I am not there yet. I want to be happy there and enjoy KL.

Yeah Hoon was in the 2006 Worlds and 2006 Asian Games, but not in 2007 Worlds because he was busy at school

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okie dokie.

I really dono about the national team letting you train there, but I assure you....Malaysia weightlifters, aren't even all that good. Heck Malaysia's top lifter is a 105+ KG lifter, and I think he doesn't even touch 200KG's CNJ. I think it's about 192KG's or something. And we have 77KG Bulgarians that CNJ 200+

You could ask. I train in the state one, and tehy're pretty dammed fine about it.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 6 2008, 11:48 AM)
okie dokie.

I really dono about the national team letting you train there, but I assure you....Malaysia weightlifters, aren't even all that good. Heck Malaysia's top lifter is a 105+ KG lifter, and I think he doesn't even touch 200KG's CNJ. I think it's about 192KG's or something. And we have 77KG Bulgarians that CNJ 200+

You could ask. I train in the state one, and tehy're pretty dammed fine about it.
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Name Malaysian Weightlifting Federation
Federation Mr. Francis Lim Ton Choi - Assist. Secr. General
Street/No. 9 Pangkor Road
City/Code. 10050 Penang
President Datuk Gan Boon Leong
Gen.Secretary Suhaimi Khamis
Telephone 60 04 2285 081

The man said there is the Commonwealth Club there and they allow people that aren't Malaysian to train there so I guess I can relax now
It was difficult to talk because I don't speak English the most clearly, it's worse than my writing smile.gif He kept saying "this is Penang this is Penang" and I was trying to ask if he knew a training place for weightlifting in Kuala Lumpur that allows foreigners

192 kg is pretty good, I thought Malaysia has some good 56 kg and 62 kg lifter, I saw their performances in the world championship results

ANyway I know this is your log Pizzaguy so I won't continue to steal it with my own messages


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QUOTE(olylift @ Apr 6 2008, 02:09 PM)
I called this number 2 minutes ago

Name Malaysian Weightlifting Federation
Federation Mr. Francis Lim Ton Choi - Assist. Secr. General
Street/No. 9 Pangkor Road
City/Code. 10050 Penang
President Datuk Gan Boon Leong
Gen.Secretary Suhaimi Khamis
Telephone  60 04 2285 081

The man said there is the Commonwealth Club there and they allow people that aren't Malaysian to train there so I guess I can relax now
It was difficult to talk because I don't speak English the most clearly, it's worse than my writing smile.gif He kept saying "this is Penang this is Penang" and I was trying to ask if he knew a training place for weightlifting in Kuala Lumpur that allows foreigners

192 kg is pretty good, I thought Malaysia has some good 56 kg and 62 kg lifter, I saw their performances in the world championship results

ANyway I know this is your log Pizzaguy so I won't continue to steal it with my own messages
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aight, no problemo
Gan boon leong is a malaccan guy, ex-bodybuilder. his gym is probably the most fancy in Malacca and shittiest. You can't drop weights, there're no oly bars, there is no place to do squats, the plates i think are filled with air because I can bench 260LBS there, but I can only do 220 on the oly bars. The floors are made of wood.

Probably one lame place to be I'll say.
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Warm Ups

Hang Cleans


60KG x 3 x 2

Squats;

60KG x 5
90KG x 7
110KG x 3
130KG x 2
140KG x 2
145KG x 1

Russian Squats

130KG x 4 x 4

Comments; Yipee aye yo yo!

Kinda boring. Had to rush for drama practice
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Squats

60KG x 10
100KG x 5
120KG x 3
140KG x 2 (Rep PR biggrin.gif )
145KG x 1
150KG x 1 (Whee, technically, a PR)

Russian Squats

7x2x115KG

No bounce this time. Just squatted down, rest 1 second at bottom position, squatted up. Made it a whole lot harder.

Power Cleans (Minimal Knee Dip)

60KG x 3
70KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 2
100KG x 1 (PR!)
105KG x 1 (PR!!)

Comments: Didn't have much sleep, slept about 3-4 hours for about the entire week because of drama practice. Energy levels were a bit low.

I found that I had a problem coming out of parallel. But if it was deep squats, then I can easily get out. Strange.....parallel weak, ATG stronger. Must try some box squats.

Then went to practice and from testosterone filled, I had to at as an estrogen dinosaur. But the drama was a success, had fun and all was good. Acting as a female was pretty hard with legs that were pumped though. I cudn't walk like a real "female"

Post workout nutrition was bloody oreos and 1 bsmall bottle of milk. Not optimal nutrition. Blargh....


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dang, your Squat PR cun.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 10 2008, 02:22 PM)
Power Cleans (Minimal Knee Dip)

60KG x 3
70KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 2
100KG x 1 (PR!)
105KG x 1 (PR!!)
Great PR powercleans, Pizzaboy! You know maybe you should be olylift, and I should be pizzaboy because I am weaksauce smile.gif
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dang, your Squat PR cun.
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Thanks. It was quite a grind, but I can definitely feel my lower back getting stronger. It didn't like falter with the weight, but the legs were slow in going up. Again, problem was at parallel. Will have to address that issue, which I think the solution with come from parallel box squatting.


QUOTE(olylift @ Apr 10 2008, 06:34 PM)
Great PR powercleans, Pizzaboy! You know maybe you should be olylift, and I should be pizzaboy because I am weaksauce smile.gif
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Hehe, thanks! I think it was the coffee. I had troubles keeping up so I took 2 cans of coffee. And then my friend said I looked like crap and offered me a joint. Smoked that up, and felt hyperactive. So just went through everything really really fast. Sorry bout not replying your PM. i was hella busy, but now time has come to my side for at least a little while.
I feel better power cleaning compared to squat cleaning, maybe because I learned the power cleans first.

Will have to fix that. I slammed my collar bone pretty dammed hard. It's bad because it hurts like crap after taht and it's bruised. But it's good because I think I can actually get more.


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What do you recommend? Pausing for a second or straight away springing up during squats? Pardon my explanation.
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What do you recommend? Pausing for a second or straight away springing up during squats? Pardon my explanation.
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Hmmm......I'm not sure. Springing away, will help recruit more fibers and teach your body to explode faster. This is good for sports performance.

However, pausing eliminates the bounce reflex completely, which makes you muscle up the weight up. This is supposed to be better for hypertrophy and strength.

I prefer the bounce but so many people say it's bad for the knees. Sometimes their nagging gets a little irritating so I just concur. Usually, I'll bounce. It's faster. If I wanted it to be done slow, I'd box squat. That comes next 2 weeks.


Added on April 11, 2008, 10:43 pmSquats

60KG x 5
100KG x 5
120KG x 3
140KG x 1
145KG x 1

Russian Squats

135KG x 2 (failed 1)
135KG x 3
135KG x 2 (failed one)
125KG x 5

Overhead Press

60KG x 5
60KG x 5

Push Press

60KG x 8
70KG x 3

Dumbbell Overhead Press

20KG x 10



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Squats

60KG x 10
100KG x 5
120KG x 5
130KG x 2
140KG x 2 (Work sets)
140KG x 2 (Bloody shaky....not good at all. Didn't go ATG...just hit below parallel depth)
110KG x 11 (Whee!!!!! High rep makes me feel depleted)

Today's squats was bad. I didn't eat properly, didn't rest properly, didn't feel good this entire week. I think these are symptoms of overtraining. What the heck, I'm almost done with this squatting routine.
This Wednesday, I'll do 120KG x 6 x 2 and rest on Friday. Test my max on Monday instead.

Dumbbell Row

4 x 12 x 20KG

Pull-Up

2 x 10

Home beckoned.

Okay, after this I'm going to start higher rep work. No, not bodybuilding. I'll be squatting 3x a week. 2x front squats and 1x back squat. 1 day FS and 1 day B.Squat to hit 95% of my maxes. Pyramid up, then drop to 85% maxes and do doubles or triples for sets of 5-8. On the lighter FS day, I'll do up to a single, and hit down to about 75-85% and get about 6-8 reps for maybe 5 sets.

Then I'll do an assistant lift for my clean and jerks or snatches, like clean and snatch pull, drop squats and some half press and military presses. About 5-8 sets again.

Then I'll do a bodybuilding'ish movement. Depends




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Haha,

I was also planning a more specific bodypart workout on my next routine though compared to this main compound.

Are ya going into the bb`ing world? rclxms.gif
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nah....bb'ing not my thang. I'm training to increase my squats because it's the basis of all strength works. Of course I'll be working alongside deadlifts as well. I won't be doing much oly works anymore because I'm coming up to KL to work, so chances are I won't be finding any gyms that allow oly lifting in KL.

So what I can do, is do oly assistance works. Hopefully me oly numbers don't drop with the lack of oly training.

Training like this, with higher reps can increase the work capacity, so when I get back to oly lifting, I can probably do it more consistently and get back at it harder. Yeh! Or at least the Bulgarians and Russians believe in this.

The bb'ing movement, is just to add a lil fun to it. Hey, looking better don't hurt aye! Meh has lembik byceps. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 15 2008, 09:57 AM)
nah....bb'ing not my thang. I'm training to increase my squats because it's the basis of all strength works. Of course I'll be working alongside deadlifts as well. I won't be doing much oly works anymore because I'm coming up to KL to work, so chances are I won't be finding any gyms that allow oly lifting in KL.

So what I can do, is do oly assistance works. Hopefully me oly numbers don't drop with the lack of oly training.
Hopefully you will still be able to do a little bit of OL in KL smile.gif





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I hope so too oly....

anyway, today I changed my mind and did something really different...........i did bodybuilding styled stuff

It went like this;

Barbell Bench Press

135LBS x 10 (no lockout)
155LBS x 10 (no lockout)
175LBS x 8 (no lockout)
185LBS x 8 (locked out)
205LBS x 6 (locked out)
225LBS x 1 (and I thought squatting was enough to sustain strength levels. Lol! How wrong)
205LBS x 8 (3 board press)
155LBS x 10

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press

20KG/hand x 4 x 10 reps

and a bunch of other crapos....dat's it....nothing significant....threw in a few pull-ups and snatches
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Your RSR.. completed?
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I decided to give it a rest this Wednesday. You could either choose to do 6x2 or rest. I took the rest.

I'm planning to hit the PR like this.

bar x 10 (overhead squats)
40KG x 5
70KG x 5
100KG x 3
120KG x 1
140KG x 1
145KG x 1

Then PR attempts. I'm just praying I hit 155KG'S at least. Aih.....worrying...plateaus scare the shit out of me. I really hope it works this time, I've been stuck at 140-145 lidat for such a long time.


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I actually thought my max was 100, a few days back, I hit 120 tongue.gif. You plan to hit 155? Good luck mate. I realize once you hit 120, even an additional 5kilos gives the extra kick.
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Welcome to the club of plateauing.

All my Oly lifts are stuck, waiting for my leg to gain the strength to drive the bar up. So right now, weakest point is me legs.

Anyway, as I won't be having access to any weightlifting gyms from June to October (internship with Nuffnang, at Jln Yap Ah Shak (Wtf that???), living in Damansara. Die la...), I'll be doing powerlifting sorta movements back again. That also depends whether I can get the time to squeeze in training)
However, squats will remain, oly styled squats. I don't quite like powerlifting stance squats. A little too wide for my liking. However, I'll put in box squats.

Uploading my future routine on Friday.


Added on April 17, 2008, 9:01 pmThis is how my new routine will go.

Monday (Heavy Bench Day/Light Front Squats Day)


Barbell Benches

Week 1 (89 %): 3x2 @ 92.5 kg

Week 2 (80 %): 5x3 @ 85 kg

Week 3 (86 %): 5x3 @ 90 kg

Week 4 (90 %): 3x2 @ 95 kg

Week 5 (80 %): 5x3 @ 85 kg

Week 6 (86 %): 5x3 @ 90 kg

Front Squats

Front Squats Work Up +
- 1x5
- 2x3


Assistance work


- JM Press, Pressdown or similar 3x8 (Can be skipped on Heavy Days)
- Some kind of lat row or pulldown 4-6x6-10
- Some kind of shoulder press 3x12
- (Tate press or one-handed pressdown 2-3x16)

Wednesday. Bodybuilding Day??


Deadlifts

4 x 3-8 reps (Deadlifts, will be more to building muscle not getting stronger at the deadlift. I won't be able to handle the work I think, but if I do fine, I'll increase weights)

Good Mornings

4 x 6-12 reps

OR/AND (Depending how I feel, I may alternate these workouts or do them both)


Box Squats

10 x 2 (Dynamic)

1 Arm Dumbbell Row

5 x 12-18 reps

Seated Machine Row

4 x 12-15

Friday. Light Bench, Heavy Squatting

Front Squats

Week 1-2: 3x8

Week 3-4: 4x6

Week 5-6: 4x5

Week 7-8: 2x5 2x3

Week 9-10: 1x5/2x3/1x2

Week 11: 2x3/2x2



CLOSE-GRIP BENCH


Week 1 (82 %): 5x3 @ 75 kg

Week 2 (85 %): 5x3 @ 77.5 kg

Week 3 (73 %): 6x3 @ 65 kg

Week 4 (82 %): 5x3 @ 75 kg

Week 5 (85 %): 5x3 @ 77.5 kg

Week 6 (73 %): 5x3 @ 65 kg

Assistance work


- Dumbell triceps extension or Tate press 3x12
- Face pull 3x8-12
- Dumbbell side or rear raise 3x12-16
- Hammer curl 3-4x12-16

I intend to take a break on week seven, to check my bench maxes. After that I'll either redo the bench routine, or do a pull-up routine.

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Thats a decent routine, you are saying that you have a weak leg, well on my side, I have a quite weak upper body.
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maybe both of u should meet up to supervise each others training biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shanecross @ Apr 17 2008, 11:08 PM)
Thats a decent routine, you are saying that you have a weak leg, well on my side, I have a quite weak upper body.
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It's weak, RIGHT leg. Although I'm right handed.

Anyway today's training went, pretty unimpressive.

50KG x 8
70KG x 5
90KG x 4
110KG x 2
130KG x 3
140KG x 1
145KG x 1
150KG x 1 (PR)
155KG x 1 (PR)

160KG x 0 (Dumped at parallel again, F.u.CK THIS weak point! Super geram)
155KG x 1
130KG x 3

Okay, so overall, I'd say I got a 15KG increase. Nothing too impressive....I'm not absolutely delighted about it, but I'm satisfied for the moment. There was a problem with today's squatting. I couldn't use the "bounce" to get out of the hole because my left knee, had an inflamed something. God knows what it was. It was fine at parallel, and below parallel so that's where I went. ATG was suicide, because it'd kill it. Legs felt strong nevertheless.

Snatch Pull

100KG x 3
120KG x 3
140KG x 2

BTN Kipping Pull-Ups

7x6 reps

I'm confident, very confident I have 160KG's in me. It's just somewhere and I gotta find it. Maybe I'll take a few light front squat sessions next week and retry my PR on Monday, 2 weeks from now.

155KG, no I'm not happy. It was just below parallel, not even ATG. It didn't count for me.


Added on April 22, 2008, 12:28 amI got myself killed at pushmore..........

40m farmer's walk @ 24kg/arm
15 ring push-up
15 sit-up
15 sumo deadlift @ 24kg/arm

5 rounds.

YEOWCH!!
It was more of a mental challenge than anything else. Difficult, painful, chest felt like it was going to collapse. Till now I'm unsure if I did 5 or 6 rounds.

But if it was 5, I finished it in about 10 minutes I should think. If it was 6, I did it in 13 minutes.

I really felt like joining the puke club. Didn't happen nevertheless.

And I bloody well will do it again, anytime!! Yeehaw!! Bring it on son of a b*tch! I'm going to stop squatting temporarily because of my knee injury. Jumpers knee apparently. Aih......so sumo deadlifts it'll be and more glute ham raises! Yeehaw!

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DUDE! smolov squats 4 times a week man? wtf?
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DUDE! smolov squats 4 times a week man? wtf?
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Heh...you didn't know? 1 reason I don't really suggest Smolov ATM is because you're not chasing an olympic gold. You can take the time you need to train your squats to go to higher numbers. Just so you know, the hardest days aren't the high rep days too. It's the Saturday. 10x3 @ 95% of your maxes. It ain't even correct. No rest after your Friday's routine 7 sets of 5.

Life just isn't right with smolov. Try this instead, this was used by the Commonwealth champion of 2002, Ben Turner for a 215KG squat @ 69KG. He gave it to me personally.


Week 1-2: 3x8

Week 3-4: 4x6

Week 5-6: 4x5

Week 7-8: 2x5 2x3

Week 9-10: 1x5/2x3/1x2

Week 11: 2x3/2x2

Poundages aren't mentioned, because Oly lifters often train according to how they feel on that day. It's safe to assume we're talking about 70-80% of our maxes, even 90% if you can handle it.

Light day is just

-Warm up
- 1x5
- 2x3

The thing about Smolov which I don't recommend for is;

1. It's REALLY not fun! Training that has no fun, really puts out the fire . I dreaded training days.
2. It's extremely difficult to complete, mentally and physically
3. You need plenty of assistance products like wraps (and all that I told you just now)
4. You MIGHT very well get hurt, especially ATG squatters, at the hip area which can hinder progress
5. We both struggled with 6x6 day @ 80%. Smolov is beyond 6x6. Lemme repeat, WAY beyond 6x6.
6. You can actually get depressed. I know I did because I was feeling pain all over my body and I wasn't involved in anything else.
7. Pack on BCAA's, glucosamine, fish oil, multivits, plenty of whey and casein and even SURGE. You WILL need it.

If you do wanna try Smolov, give Boris Sheiko a try first. Even Boris isn't a comparison actually. Compared to Smolov, I'd say Boris is a joke. It's your choice though, don't let me scare you out of it if you really want to try. It IS as hard as I say it is. But g'luck anyway if you wanna try. I'd recommend a prepatory phase, for smolov prepatory.

Btw, we haven't even gotten started on intense phase yet.
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Squatting 4 times a week is sick my man. Jones going on Smolov ? Or is it you pizza?

Btw, where do you get SURGE? T-nation has it though but the shipping price is shiettt.
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oh yueah.. boris.. boris is a much more complete full body program.. i might try boris.. let me rest from gym for this week after the max attempt.. time to be lazy lol..
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Any links on the boris routine?
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aah.. u gotta ask pizza for htat. i downloaded hte whole PDF shit of boris. so i lost the link.

anyway from wat i can see of smolov's 1st three weeks is actually trying to over train the trainee on purpose.. like what charles poliquin's super compensation program suggested.. train like shit, over train, rest for few weeks and grow from it. lol
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http://www.joeskopec.com/borisp.xls

A lot of poliquin's techniques and things, are actually pretty normal. But he marketed it in a more, marketable manner.
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Squats

20KG x 10
60KG x 5
100KG x 3
120KG x 2
140KG x 2
150KG x 1 (WOoh! Fast. No grinding necessary)

Squats Work Set

80KG x 20 (OUChhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Breathe baby, breathe!!!!!!!!!)


Pull-Ups

4 x 8-10

Push-Ups

2 x 50

Cannot tahan, going back....really really hungry here.......
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Sick man, 80kg x 20 reps. Burn baby burn. hahah.
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Funny thing, it's actually EASY to squat. The difficult part is when the hips start to hurt. I think I'll just blow it up to 90KG instead next week.

I found another way to really use my lats, is to rest after each rep of pull-up. Like rest completely, let go and lift again. Pretty nice. I'm going to try 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 pull-ups with this.

Got loads of changes to make in this. Powah powah powah!!
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 25 2008, 08:04 PM)
Funny thing, it's actually EASY to squat. The difficult part is when the hips start to hurt. I think I'll just blow it up to 90KG instead next week.

I found another way to really use my lats, is to rest after each rep of pull-up. Like rest completely, let go and lift again. Pretty nice. I'm going to try 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 pull-ups with this.

Got loads of changes to make in this. Powah powah powah!!
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Lemme tell ya sumthing, I could only do max 3 reps of pullups. Jesus, thats sad man.

So, ya gonna stick to 20 reps througout your routine or you have a cycle ?
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Learn how to do "kipping pull-ups"

Cycle....with....I have no idea man, I'm doing this cycle because I'll be in KL in june. So I wanna pack on some mass NOW, before I get to KL because I know I won't be eating right there. And I lose weight, very easily.

Maybe, after doing this, I'll do those "Crossfit" style training for a few months while I'm there. U wanna try too?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 25 2008, 09:49 PM)
Learn how to do "kipping pull-ups"

Cycle....with....I have no idea man, I'm doing this cycle because I'll be in KL in june. So I wanna pack on some mass NOW, before I get to KL because I know I won't be eating right there. And I lose weight, very easily.

Maybe, after doing this, I'll do those "Crossfit" style training for a few months while I'm there. U wanna try too?
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I am looking something more into old school training like tyre throwing or something . Oh wait is that cross fit too? hehe. Since you will be in KL we could pick a day; do some conditioning hahaha. I seriously need some conditioning though

Oh ya, sumo deadlift and reg deadlift ada beza ke?
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My conditioning=ZERO.....

I've only been adding a bit of heavy bag work and rolling a few tires, lots of kipping pull and push-ups and a bit of ghetto ass dumbbell swings. Still don't do any form of jogging.

Sumo and conventional, huge difference.

Sumo shorter ROM, easier to complete for lifters with extremely long torso and short arms. I'm an extremely long torso/long arm lifter, so it suits me more. Also it stresses ur hip more than ur back. The back is strengthened statically as I'm able to keep my back more vertical. More leg dominant I feel.

Conventional, large ROM. Better for short torso lifters with long arms. More back dominant I think.

Or it could be because my torso is so extremely long, I can't even breathe right when I deadlift.

MY coach taught me a different style of CNJ bcuz of my long torso. I've to use my lower back and snap it up harder and use my traps as stabilizers instead to bring the weight back. This long torso syndrome sure is a headache...


Added on April 26, 2008, 1:45 amEDIT: Despite using a sumo stance now, I do intend to do a high rep conventional deadlift once every 4 weeks. I still wanna work that back a bit.


Added on April 26, 2008, 11:36 amUpdate: I've been hungry and sleepy the entire night. Just kept eating, when I'm not eating, I'm sleeping and when I'm not sleeping, I'm eating.

20 reps, not something easy. I plan to keep at it though. Having sores in my legs and upper back as well. Need to eat a ton, or I won't have anything left for conditioning work later.

Thinking of a W.O.D consisting of pull-ups, push-ups and car pushes.

Will post pictures.

Slept for about 2+9 hours=11 hours since y'day. Phenomenal....never slept that long, EVER!


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Car pushing-pull for about 50 meters. (6 rounds)
50 pull-ups in total
30 push-ups

Ahhhhhh.......my legs, they be burning. Finally feeling my quads do some work. Nyce shit. Be uploadin them videos soon


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you'll never find a place to do that in KL lol
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PB I'd like to see how you do that different style c&J for your long arms and torso. It sounds like a hips-high style.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbUtJ9yB7BU

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you'll never find a place to do that in KL lol
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Got la.......just drive drive around....I did that at a stadium nearby my home. It's got pull-up rings and bars as well. I'm probably gonna go there again later, so I'll upload some videos if I do.


QUOTE(olylift @ Apr 27 2008, 02:27 PM)
PB I'd like to see how you do that different style c&J for your long arms and torso. It sounds like a hips-high style.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zbUtJ9yB7BU
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YES! Exactly like that. But I can't get it right still. I ingrained the trap-pull clean method so much since the power clean days/squat clean days, that I'm struggling to teach myself to do it correctly. Even my coach can't really teach me this method properly, because although he knows how to do it, he's not very good at spotting technique mistakes for this method of lifting.

He claims this is more to a Greek or Bulgarian style of lifting where the technique isn't so much as to shrug the weight high up, but to get DOWN under the bar as quickly as possible. This of course, scares the crap outta me when I'm closing to my front squat 3RM weights of about 110KG's. However, he says in the long run it should be more suited for me. Jeez.
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Learning the kipping pull-ups. I think something went haywire when I go downwards, because at that point I seem to fling around wildly with no direction. Something not right there.



The normal weighted push-ups sorta distributed the weights evenly around the body making it quite easy. This time I made my brother stand on my shoulder blades to make sure all the weight is on my arms and chest and shoulder. Pretty.....darned tough. Then agian, it could be bcuz I've never done this, I'll keep practicing and see how I get along with this.

And I might change my 20 rep squat routine, to something else again. The 20 reppers are awesome in the pump/blood flow department. But it also makes me EXTREMELY hungry and TIRED after that. I can't have that, finals are coming. Gotta consider other factors as well. So I'm going to go with my oly squat routines back agin.
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Kipping pullups are cool man, gotta try that. Its simpler than the reg pullups isnt it?
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It's twice as difficult as a regular pull-up.
Getting your body attuned to kipping is one task by itself. to maintain the momentum is another headache already.

The power production with kipping pull-ups is higher than the regular ones. So you're likely to get tired faster at the beginning. However as you get used to it , it gets a whole lot easier.

It STILL builds solid lats. The momentum doesn't make it any easier. If anything, it makes it much harder. The grip also fails quicker. I use the shirt because my grip was failing already and I couldn't really handle the pain.

I'll upload a vid of me playin around the bar soon.
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I still dont get it after watching the vid above, what is the different between the normal pull-up and the kipping pull-up except it is more like an explosive pull-up or something?
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I still dont get it after watching the vid above, what is the different between the normal pull-up and the kipping pull-up except it is more like an explosive pull-up or something?
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my doggone dungu brother, aimed the camera a lil too high, and stayed static at the position. kid needs a new brain.

kipping, is where you use your leg to kick and force yourself up. It's when you can't do anymore pull-ups and just kick and fling your legs left and right to get that one last rep. Well kipping is controlled and powerful. More power orientated. Not so "contractttttt my ***** ass lats and squeeze at top position" cocknots.

And yes it's more to an explosive pull-up. Eventually, you'll find ur standard pull-ups also getting easier to do.


Added on April 28, 2008, 10:28 amSomethings I've noticed about myself. Should be good to note;

- I NEED to hit at least 95% of my 1RM, ONCE a week at least. Thus my warm-ups always work up to my 1RM or close
- High volume almost immediately pumps the hell outta my leg size. They literally GROW overnight with high volume.
- Singles, don't do too good for me, triples are better for me, in the strength development area
- Speed is a problem for me, I'm still not fast enough. Upper body's pretty fast in the punches department but not the lower body
- I need to fix my parallel point issue, I keep snagging down at that point
- Deadlifts are stuck because of a weak back. Even with a different lifting style (Sumo), I still need to address my back.


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The principles from this new training regimen comes from the mix of weightlifting squatting concept, "sticking point" elimination (training your weak points), fighters principles of maximal strength superset with explosive movement and a bit of bodybuilding to strengthen the posterior chain, abdominal muscles and high rep triceps movement.

- Weightlifting squatting builds overall strength and because it goes deep, I can use my stretch reflex which is bloody useful for speed.

- Sticking points murder my squats and bench ALL the time, so I'm going to work with a lot of parallel box squats and 2 board benches.

- Maximal strength superset with explosive movements, trains for speed/strength and is extremely useful during my sparring sessions.

- My core is rather weak compared to the rest of my body so I'm definitely needing to address this. The core works best with a combination of heavy and light training. That's how I'm going to do it.

- Triceps, I don't know. I'm no bodybuilder but the triceps have always been one bodypart I loved to train. Maybe because it's very useful during fights. We don't fight with our biceps after all, it's our triceps, lats, hips, waist and leg that transfers the punch.

Monday (28 April 2008, 4 Days Off My 21's Birthday With NO Alcohol. Wow!)

Front Squats (Main Lift)

60KG x 8
80KG x 8
90KG x 8
90KG x 8
90KG x 8

*Urgh....definitely lacking in the front squats department and I do not have the endurance for this high rep crap. Training for it*

Snatch Grip Pull (Power and posterior chain and oly lifting assistance)

60KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 2
110KG x 1

Jump Training. (For explosive strength)

10 rounds of standing broad jump

Glute Ham Raises On Bench (Posterior Chain Work)

2 x 10

Basically I'm done here. So I add another 3 upper body workouts for the bodybuilder in me.

1 Arm Thruster (Left arm only, I've muscular imbalances in my left arm)

3 x 8 @ 20KG

Each rep, sit on a Swiss ball to remove the stretch reflex.

Overhead Presses

60KG x 6
60KG x 5
60KG x 5
60KG x 4
60KG x 3
60KG x 1 (total exhaustion here)

Pull-Ups

7x5

I'm beat! Dinner was barbecue with weird alcohol. My cousin birthday so we had a mix of stout, beer, vodka and tequila in one container. It tasted...really crappy. Sorta like water with vodka peach smell and a tinge of stout taste. Really weird.
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Front Squats

Week 1-2: 3x8

Week 3-4: 4x6

Week 5-6: 4x5

Week 7-8: 2x5 2x3

Week 9-10: 1x5/2x3/1x2

Week 11: 2x3/2x2

Snatch Grip Pull

-1x3
-1x3
-1x3
-1x3
-1x2
-1x1
-4x3/3x2/3x1

Jump Training Superset with Posterior Work

Broad jump
Vertical jump
High Jump
Box Jump
Squat Jump

Superset with


GHR
Back Extensions
Romanian Deadlifts

Back Training

Pull-Ups (10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1)
Dumbbell Rows (3x5 - 10-15 reps)

Wednesday

Sumo Deadlift
# Week one: 70% - 15 sets of 1 - rest one minute between sets
# Week two: 75% - 12 sets of 1 - rest one minute between sets
# Week three: 80% - 10 sets of 1 - rest 90 seconds between sets
# Week four: 85% - 6 sets of 1 - rest 90 seconds between sets
# Week five: 90% - 3 sets of 1 - rest two minutes between sets

Box Squats

10x2 (50,55,60% @ Parallel)

Dumbbell Bench

3x8-10

Overhead Half Press Superset With Military Press

05 x (5 reps-Overhead Half Press) (8-10 reps Military Press)

High Rep Tricep Work

Dips
Extensions

Fridays


Front Squats
- 1x5
- 2x3

Clean Grip Pull

-1x3
-1x3
-1x3
-1x3
-1x2
-1x1
-4x3/3x2/3x1


Jump Training Superset with Posterior Work

Broad jump
Vertical jump
High Jump
Box Jump
Squat Jump

Superset with


GHR
Back Extensions
Romanian Deadlifts

Back Work

Pull-Ups (10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1)

Basically that'll be the gym work.

Then on Saturdays, Crossfit shit. Just to kill my stamina a bit

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wtf ur boris is different from mine. 4 days a week?
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wtf ur boris is different from mine. 4 days a week?
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Nolah...this isn't Boris. Boris is much more sets. It'll usually make you sweat till you're crazy.

This is Westside 4 Skinny Bastards, but I don't quite like single limb work. So I just change it to something that's more to like superset. It's something that MMA fighters generally use. Ross Enyamit also advocates maximal strength and power training.

This routine that I'll be trying to adhere to, should be done in about 1.15 hours or less. I'm trying to build up my conditioning as well. Would be useful during sparring and competitions. Can't keep having my training to last nearly 2 hours.

I know the fact that in sparring we're never going to be on two legs when launching an attack, but I suppose I'll take my chances.

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This picture, sorta scares me out a bit. That, according to my calculations should be 160KG's on the bar. Creepy....anybody here ready to beat that yet?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 23 2008, 02:17 AM)
http://www.joeskopec.com/borisp.xls

A lot of poliquin's techniques and things, are actually pretty normal. But he marketed it in a more, marketable manner.
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was referring to this..
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was referring to this..
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I think there are 3 versions floating around the net. One type is 3 day, one is 4 day. Another 1 is the more "extreme" version.
I think not much difference between 3 day and 4 day ones. Jst that the 3 day version has higher volume perhaps?
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That is some crazy chic, wait wait. I squat 170 by end of this year..ahhahaha...confident lebih..!
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 30 2008, 05:10 AM)
I think there are 3 versions floating around the net. One type is 3 day, one is 4 day. Another 1 is the more "extreme" version.
I think not much difference between 3 day and 4 day ones. Jst that the 3 day version has higher volume perhaps?
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this 4 days have extra 4-6 sets of squats on squat day and extra 4-6sets of bench of bench day. now my legs hurts like shit.


Added on April 30, 2008, 4:10 pmi have no idea why i did your version of boris.

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QUOTE(jones007 @ Apr 30 2008, 04:10 PM)
this 4 days have extra 4-6 sets of squats on squat day and extra 4-6sets of bench of bench day. now my legs hurts like shit.


Added on April 30, 2008, 4:10 pmi have no idea why i did your version of boris.
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Because you're a believer of supercompensation? After all, that is the crux of Boris.

Anyway, Wednesday wasn't able to train because I was in KL for another interview. This time with Astro. Yipee!! So, today's training went a bit like this

Sumo Deadlift. (70% of 171KG)

120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1
120KG x 1

(Yes, 15 sets...)

Learning slowly how to pop the hips, use the hips and quads to get up......how to stretch and snap.

Quite tiring, especially on the later ones. But at least form wasn't compromised

Front Squats

90KG x 5
100KG x 3
100KG x 5
110KG x 2 x 3 (Ouwh ouwh ouwh.....)
100KG x 8 (Yelp.....me can't feel me legs)

Clean Grip Pull (Bar over or equal to belly height)

90KG x 3
100KG x 3
110KG x 3
120KG x 2
130KG x 1 (This is a PR if I can clean it and stand)

Parallel Squat Broad Jump

10 rounds of 2 jumps

Abs

A bunch of weighted sit-ups with plates and dumbbells and whatnot..

Pull-Ups

8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-5-5-5

Ouwh.........my back.......

*Today's food intake was relatively good. 3 days of resting because Wednesday, I missed training. However, noticed strength increase when rest days and sleep is increased.
Strength is good. Everything is good, as long the reps are kept low. This cannot go on, reps must be higher but strength and energy levels are in danger of dropping fast when the reps increase. Must find out how to counter this, either with increasing food intake or more conditioning. Conditioning levels are much better than previously already, so it must be the lack of food or rest. Perhaps can try two days a week training, especially since finals are looming.

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Barbell Bench

135LBS x 10
175LBS x 8
185LBS x 8
205LBS x 7 (A bit tough on the 7th rep)
225LBS x 5 (Oh f***, this is high rep work! LOL!)
235LBS x 2 (Oh, repetition PR biggrin.gif )
245LBS x 0 (What was I thinking? Not there yet honey....not yet)
135LBS x 12 (I can't feel my triceps)

Dumbbell Bench Press

30KG x 16
30KG x 13
30KG x 11 (Ouwh ouwh ouwh....)
30KG x 7

Bodyweight Dips + 20KG

Goal is 20 reps

16 reps
14 reps
16 reps
Bodyweight x 20

No way in hell I'm getting 20 reps today with that 20KG dumbbell stuck between my leg

Rack Lockout

140KG x 3
150KG x 3
160KG x 3 (it's a rack LOCKOUT, not a bench, that's why the numbers are mad high. Only do this twice a month)

Bicep Curls

40KG x 12 (I cheated a couple reps, so what?)
40KG x 10
40KG x 10

*Comments

auwooooooooHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! I don't feel my triceps and what was I thinking going so many reps? It's SO MUCH FUN!!! Hahaha, changes the game a bit.


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you reps are pretty high... what are the curls for blink.gif ?
Do you pause on your lifts or touch-n-go?
btw is bouncing the weight same as the stretch reflex?
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Yeap, changed it to higher repetitions these days...sick of the low repetition high weight work. They take too much time to get prepared mentally. And once a while, it's good to feel like you have a pump, makes you feel alive a bit. biggrin.gif

I've been doing low reps so long, I'm actually slightly tired of it.....but I'll return to heavy singles lifting, just not yet. A leg/chest/back workout feels quite simple and fun. Don't want to chase the numbers anymore for the moment....just increasing the repetitions. If I can rep 315LBS for 5 reps, that's a PR for me. I don't wanna keep chasing weight PR's.....it's getting too strenuous.

I pause on the lighter weights, TNG on the heavier ones......i noe I noe....cheatingggg.....and those bicep curls were merely for the sake of fun. My friends said my "Achilles heel" was my biceps because I never trained them.

So I just added 10KG'S above their bicep curl numbers and repped it out a bit, just to show off tongue.gif

And I don't really know if bouncing is the same, but to use your stretch reflex, there is some sort of like a bounce. So I assume it's the same thing.....I guess

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Snatches For Warmup

40KG x 2
40KG x 4
40KG x 2
40KG x 2

Sumo Deadlift

60KG x 3
100KG x 3
140KG x 3
160KG x 2
170KG x 0 (Slipped)
170KG x 1 (I have no idea, if this was counted, I locked out, but I didn't hold it long enough because I lost balance)
140KG x 3

Conventional Deadlift

140KG x 3
140KG x 3
140KG x 3

Rows

40KG x 10
40KG x 10
60KG x 12
60KG x 14

Back Extensions

BW+10KG x 10
BW+10KG x 10
BW+10KG x 10
BW+10KG x 10

Pull-Ups

BW+10KG x 10
BW+10KG x 10
BW+10KG x 10

*Just got better from a fever, feeling quite shitty.......but still quite satisfied with my pulling. It's actually a PR since I just switched to a sumo deadlift stance. Got a video but don't intend to upload it here, too dumb. Hehe...but those who want to see it can, PM me.

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Monday Heavy Back Squat/Light Front Squat/Snatch Day

Snatches

40KG x 2
40KG x 2
60KG x 2
70KG x 1
70KG x 1 (Kinda slow...)

Squats

20KG x 10
60KG (135LBS) x 5
110KG (240LBS) x 5
130KG (285LBS) x 3
140KG (310LBS) x 3 (Repetition PR!)
145KG (320LBS) x 2 (Repetition PR!)

150KG (330LBS) x 1 (Tried for a double, failed the second rep, dump)
135KG (300LBS) x 3 x 3 (Workset)

Front Squats

100KG x 3
110KG x 3
120KG x 3
130KG x 1

Good Mornings

60KG x 12
60KG x 12
70KG x 12
60KG x 15

Box Jumps @ 45" Height

About 15x

Abdominal Work

3 x 12-15 reps

CG Bench Press

70KG x 3 x 8

Review: I'm pooped...but it felt pretty strong despite the lack of sleep due to studying and exams and not that much food. Pork rinds (Delish!) are the recipe to strength I guess. tongue.gif

Might deadlift this Wednesday. Just see how it goes.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 12 2008, 02:00 PM)
Monday Heavy Back Squat/Light Front Squat/Snatch Day

Snatches

40KG x 2
40KG x 2
60KG x 2
70KG x 1
70KG x 1 (Kinda slow...)

Squats

20KG x 10
60KG (135LBS) x 5
110KG (240LBS) x 5
130KG (285LBS) x 3
140KG (310LBS) x 3 (Repetition PR!)
145KG (320LBS) x 2 (Repetition PR!)

150KG (330LBS) x 1 (Tried for a double, failed the second rep, dump)
135KG (300LBS) x 3 x 3 (Workset)

Front Squats

100KG x 3
110KG x 3
120KG x 3
130KG x 1

Good Mornings

60KG x 12
60KG x 12
70KG x 12
60KG x 15

Box Jumps @ 45" Height

About 15x

Abdominal Work

3 x 12-15 reps

CG Bench Press

70KG x 3 x 8

Review: I'm pooped...but it felt pretty strong despite the lack of sleep due to studying and exams and not that much food. Pork rinds (Delish!) are the recipe to strength I guess. tongue.gif

Might deadlift this Wednesday. Just see how it goes.
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Dude, you got a lot of back training in nearly all of your workouts, your goodmornings high reps some more *ouch*, shouldnt you ease up on that? like work your upper body strength or legs while you let your back rests? Just my opinion

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Dude, you got a lot of back training in nearly all of your workouts, your goodmornings high reps some more *ouch*, shouldnt you ease up on that? like work your upper body strength or legs while you let your back rests? Just my opinion
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I kinda have this issue with my lower back being not fricken strong enough. So I'm just trying to address this with those good mornings. Anyway, my shoes are weightlifting shoes and there's an elevation at the heel, so a the back is involved less.

And yeah, I think I'm going to skip deadlifts this week, instead just go for some benching work. Thx 4 the advice.


Added on May 16, 2008, 8:52 pmCompilation.

Tuesday Training

Today was light snatch technique training day/front squat day.

Snatch

40KG x 2
40KG x 2
45KG x 2
50KG x 2

Each repetition was paused at the bottom for 10 seconds, because I have a problem with my bottom part flexibility and balancing. Thus coach said to hold the overhead squat position and try not to wobble. I wobbled, so whatever.

Snatch Pull

100KG x 3
120KG x 3
120KG x 3
120KG x 2
120KG x 2

Front Squat

50KG x 3
70KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 3
120KG x 2
130KG x 1
120KG x 3 x 2

Really need to learn to squat under the bar and punch it out faster. I'm too slow

Wednesday


Wednesday Training

Snatch Grip Quick Drops

40KG x 5
40KG x 5
45KG x 5
50KG x 5
50KG x 5

Really trying to get the speed and balance.

Snatch Grip Pull

50KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 3

Overhead Squats

60KG x 3
70KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 3 x 3

Parallel Box Squats

100KG x 2
110KG x 2
120KG x 2
130KG x 2
140KG x 1
140KG x 2
140KG x 1 (Second rep, sort of good morning'ed it up, so don't count)

Took thursday as a break day....coming back today, Friday. Clean technique/speed day.

Friday Training

Cleans

40KG x 3 x 2
60KG x 3 x 2
70KG x 2 x 2
80KG x 2
90KG x 2 x 2
95KG x 2
97.5KG x 2 x 2
100KG x 2

Front Squats

60KG x 5
100KG x 3
100KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 2

Hand walks

2 x 20 meters

Deadlifts

100KG x 3
140KG x 3
160KG x 3



Here's a 70KG clean vid

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Today was light snatch technique training day/front squat day.

Snatch

40KG x 2
40KG x 2
45KG x 2
50KG x 2

Each repetition was paused at the bottom for 10 seconds, because I have a problem with my bottom part flexibility and balancing. Thus coach said to hold the overhead squat position and try not to wobble. I wobbled, so whatever.

Snatch Pull

100KG x 3
120KG x 3
120KG x 3
120KG x 2
120KG x 2

Front Squat

50KG x 3
70KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 3
120KG x 2
130KG x 1 icon_idea.gif
120KG x 3 x 2

Really need to learn to squat under the bar and punch it out faster. I'm too slow

Wednesday


Wednesday Training

Snatch Grip Quick Drops

40KG x 5
40KG x 5
45KG x 5
50KG x 5
50KG x 5

Really trying to get the speed and balance.

Snatch Grip Pull

50KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 3

Overhead Squats

60KG x 3
70KG x 3
80KG x 3
90KG x 3 x 3

Parallel Box Squats

100KG x 2
110KG x 2
120KG x 2
130KG x 2
140KG x 1
140KG x 2 icon_idea.gif
140KG x 1 (Second rep, sort of good morning'ed it up, so don't count)

Took thursday as a break day....coming back today, Friday. Clean technique/speed day.

Friday Training

Cleans

40KG x 3 x 2
60KG x 3 x 2
70KG x 2 x 2
80KG x 2
90KG x 2 x 2
95KG x 2
97.5KG x 2 x 2
100KG x 2

Front Squats

60KG x 5
100KG x 3
100KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 3
110KG x 2

Hand walks

2 x 20 meters

Deadlifts

100KG x 3
140KG x 3
160KG x 3 icon_rolleyes.gif (PEe Arr!!)



Here's a 70KG clean vid
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hey bro, just wanna know what should a person do to improve in oly lifts? got links or care to show us what a oly routine looks like? what kind of movements to put in? thanks
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hey bro, just wanna know what should a person do to improve in oly lifts? got links or care to show us what a oly routine looks like? what kind of movements to put in? thanks
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How do I answer this question......the best way to improve in oly lifting is;

1. Get a coach. Best solution.

2. Get a camera. Search on youtube. Post your own cleaning and snatching videos on youtube and ask for advice.

My oly routine, is mostly out of feel. But it goes with like, alternate days, snatch 1 day, clean n jerk the other.
The general rule for a snatch (Holy shit, here goes the list)

1. Learn to drop squat

2. Learn to kip the extend the heels, kip the bar and shrug the bar

3. Arms don't bend, until the last instant and you powerfully PUNCH the bar into a straight overhead squat position

4. Always keep shoulders in front of bar, all the way to the end of the movement

5. Backs are always arched and hips move up first, last instant milisecond before standing up straight, explode the back upwards

6. The bar MUST be kept as close to your body as long as possible, there should be a brush with your shirt (just a TINY brush)

7. Forget the "knees behind toes" rule, it's never happening here.

8. Get elevated heel shoes


There's no way you're going to learn from what I write, so I suggest reading up more articles, and watching the videos. The best way to tell if you're snatching right, is after your second pull, the bar should be completely WEIGHTLESS as you drop under the bar to catch it. Yes, olympic lifts are as complicated as they sound. There's about 5 steps that you STILL need to learn before even coming close to executing it.


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Farked up inside out day......messed up everything.

Clean and Jerk

20KG x 10 (More like reverse bicep curl and press)
50KG x 2
80KG x 2 (Problematic lockouts)
90KG x 1
100KG x 0
100KG x 0
100KG x 1 (What the hell??)
110KG x 0
110KG x 0
105KG x 0

I give up....the weights feel super heavy. Could be because of the vegetarian diet I was on for three days.

Ended up doing CNJ practice with 40KG for nearly 50x and stretching for flexibility. My jerk is bad.

Front Squats

100KG x 2 (What the hell? IT felt heavy like mad)
100KG x 5
100KG x 5 (I give up, this feels stupid heavy)
110KG x 0 (Oh we have a serious problem here.........................)

Barbell Rows

70KG x 3 x 10 (They feel so awful, it's not even worth talking about...)

Rack Squats From Parallel

100KG x 5 (I don't even feel like training anymore...)
110KG x 3 (Shit......this is seriously BAD)

Okay, I give up. Popped in 5 BCAA's and protein shakes and went for a light smoke. Stressed the hell out.
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didn't know u smoke.. i thought u dont?
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I don't.

But on days when ur just super duper stressed and all the weights don't wanna go up and you have your coach screaming beside you "Tarik, LAJU!! Second pull mana!!?" and everybody's weights going pretty much okay....you'll tend to get a lil annoyed and stressed. And if they offer you a smoke, so you just take it.
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Morning Lifts

Cleans


20KG x 10 (warmups)
40KG x 2 x 2
50KG x 2
60KG x 2 x 2
70KG x 1
80KG x 3 x 2
90KG x 2
100KG x 2
105KG x 2
110KG x 2 x 0 (Both fail)
100KG x 3 x 1

Front Squts

110KG x 3 x 3

Weighted Sit-Ups

10KG x 3 x 9

I was thinking of doing just technique work today, but since cleans felt rather fast, I increased for a max. Bad choice, wasted too much time at the lower weights, that 110KG just didn't feel right. Shouldn't dropped 40/50/60KG's out and went for 70 and above instead.

Videos will be up later.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 20 2008, 08:27 AM)
I don't.

But on days when ur just super duper stressed and all the weights don't wanna go up and you have your coach screaming beside you "Tarik, LAJU!! Second pull mana!!?" and everybody's weights going pretty much okay....you'll tend to get a lil annoyed and stressed. And if they offer you a smoke, so you just take it.
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Wow. wish i had a group and a coach to train with
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Not this coach....perhaps he's from China and I'm the only Chinese there, he's very VERY critical of me. Wrong technique, kena. No speed, kena. Fall forward, kena, fall backwards, kena. Everything do wrong, kena.

So I just really, gotta ignore the negative things he says and just take in his advice and how to stabilize the lifts. I can't take it personally because he just wants me to be the best lifter among them all there. And he never lets me lift the heaviest, twice. If he sees that I fail it twice, habis, no more third lift.

It's too bad I never met the Bulgarian coach. He's only got one philosophy. "We train, maximum. Everyday". So cute. And I've got some rashes.....could be the BCAA's I'm taking...nvr happened bfr...

Evening Training

Snatch

20KG x 5
40KG x 2 x 2
50KG x 2 x 2
60KG x 2 x 2
70KG x 2
75KG x 1 (WOh! Bodyweight snatch! I'm now officially stronger than the average guy. haha!)
80KG x 0 (I snatched, but it don't count, because I sorta pressed it out. 2 Red flags)
70KG x 4

So, forth time snatching and I made bodyweight. I'm PROUD of myself biggrin.gif biggrin.gif *Beaming*

High Snatch Pull From Block

70KG x 3
90KG x 3
100KG x 2 x 3
110KG x 2 x 3
120KG x 2 x 3

Back Squats

100KG x 3
130KG x 3
140KG x 2
150KG x 1 (Farking ugly rep, grind like dog)
130KG x 3 x 2

*Freaking felt like cardiovascular exercises today...breathe also feel like running 100M for 10 sets. Popped in 5 BCAA pills (Can't they make these smaller?! Besar macam tetek lembu) and protein and went to bed.
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*Freaking felt like cardiovascular exercises today...breathe also feel like running 100M for 10 sets. Popped in 5 BCAA pills (Can't they make these smaller?! Besar macam tetek lembu) and protein and went to bed.
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No more lah.........I won't be able to make it cuz I'll be working on the first day of the weightlifting games. Knn sungguh.......

Anyway, no point lah, because of inconsistencies and all the crap that's been going on (mostly my fault la..) I won't even place well. But I checked, the 77KG category, quite chapalang lah the lifts.

Snatch only 110KG's only..My coach said if I go, high chance of getting bronze......but tak pergi so takyah cakap lah kan.....


Added on May 21, 2008, 9:22 pm


Failed cleans, to successful cleans. Ah....more praktyse needed

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Real squat snatch, not power snatches with minimal leg drop.
VERY VERY VERY FUCING UNBALANCED. Padan muka, hari hari power snatch, not tak tau squat snatch

40KG x 2 x 2
50KG x 8 x 2 (Supposed to reach 20 total reps, but got bored after a while)

Sungguh the hailat, tak balance LANGSUNG when dropping downwards. Legs open when drop like tryin to puncture a virgin's vaj-j-j to half like dat.
From today onwards, hari hari snatch balancing.

Snatch Balance

50KG x 8 x 3
55KG x 3 x 1

Clean and Jerk

40KG x 2
50KG x 2
70KG x 2 x 2

*Tak tahu how to jerk anymore. Cannot explode upwards and speed downwards fast enough, so just changed to cleans only.

90KG x 2 x 2
100KG x 2
105KG x 1 (Hands tore again...cheez....)
110KG x 1 (OHO.....Pee-Arr!)
115KG x 1 (Cleaned well squatting proving a problemo......reaching my front squats maxes already....)

Clean Pulls

90KG x 3 x 3
110KG x 3 x 3
*This is when I tore my callouses real bad, so stopped)

Bench Press

80KG x 3 x 10

TIDOR!!!!!
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Snatch

40KG x 5 x 1
50KG x 5 x 1
55KG x 3 x 1

*Failed lifts don't count

Clean Pull From Floor

100KG x 1
120KG x 1
150KG x 1

Deadlifts

170KG x 1
180KG x 0 (Oh this is when I went haywire angry)

Snatch Balances

50KG x 5 x 3

*Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak lah! Failed the 180 pull. Perhaps I was tired from the snatches, perhaps not. Whatever it is, I'm disappointed.

For entertainment factors, there's even a video. My bro was laughing at the back


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Don't kick the innocent plate, the iron is your friend biggrin.gif

In all seriousness..... you could injure a toe or two tongue.gif ... ok ok going to my point
you should apply a bit of the west side principles in a sense that you do not try to max out the big 3 too often, try once in a month or two, use other variations, u'll make better progress and this way you dont disappoint yourself too much

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The plate's made of rubber. Rubber's bad. It makes sex feel less fun.

Anyway, yeah I know. I thought about deadlifting once every fortnight. Looks like I'll cut the deadlifting to once a month only. I think I noticed my problem. I take too long to break off the floor, next time I'll jerk it faster instead of steadily pulling.

Can't pull the way Klokaev pulls, that guy's too strong to compare myself to. Must pull like Naim Suleymanoglu's 190KG clean and jerk. Like a monster ripping the bar off the ground. Back to the drawing board for me.
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this allergic reaction is starting to concern me....
it making me look weirder


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 24 2008, 12:22 PM)
this allergic reaction is starting to concern me....
it making me look weirder
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Ya allergic to shellfish?
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 24 2008, 11:22 AM)
this allergic reaction is starting to concern me....
it making me look weirder
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hmmm.... you look.... bigger in this picture.. got bitten by a radioactive spider? tongue.gif
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this allergic reaction is starting to concern me....
it making me look weirder
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jsut 1 comment for it, EWWW

See a doctor dude.

u went from macho to sicko. doh.gif
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The allergic reaction maybe affecting your lifts? It doesn't look like typical allergic reaction though.
Baik cepat pi jumpa doctor. Mana tau it's some skin infection or what.
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jsut 1 comment for it, EWWW

See a doctor dude.

u went from macho to sicko.  doh.gif
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Wat sicko? Skin discoloration also kena call sicko....

Anyway, it's subsided. Not that bad anymore. The weirdest part is that it doesn't hurt at all, no itch, just that the discoloration went from arm, to shoulder to chest to the entire body. Then I stopped taking the BCAA's and it's a-okay.

And no shane, I'm not allergic to shellfish. That's the peculiar part. I'm not allergic to anything besides bananas (Yes, I'm strangely allergic to bananas) but I'm allergic to BCAA. I hope it's just this particular brand that I'm allergic to.

Anyway, I'm coming up this Thursday, anybody wanna meet up? Yamcha ker apa-apa ke....


Added on May 24, 2008, 6:18 pmOn a sidenote, my brother's quote of the day

As I was doing shoulder presses and went above 6 reps he said, I quote;

"EEEE!!! Kor, you're doing bodybuilding man! Hypertrophying your shoulders!!! Faggot lah you!"

And he proceeds to do a set of squats with 3 reps. b****ing brother....

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I have allergies around my mouth, once in a while it tends to get itchy and turns red, lol it looks bloody funny and weird, but it subsides after a week or two, pretty mysterious, I cant say im allergic to nuts or what, cuz i ate nuts and there was apparently no allergies..geez..
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Squats
125KG x 10
120KG x 10
115KG x 10

Push Press

60KG x 10
55KG x 10
50KG x 10

Bench Press

85KG x 10
80KG x 10
75KG x 10

Dips

BW+30KG x 4 (Fcuked up la....triceps dying)
BW+20KG x 10
BW+15KG x 10
BW+10KG x 8 (Can't take it anymore, gave up)

Overhead Press

50KG x 5 (ARGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! FCUK LAAAAH THIS HIGH VOLUME SHIT!)
45KG x 10
40KG x 10
40KG x 10

Abs

20KG x 3 x 5

Tuesday 15 July 2008


Deadlift (2 seconds eccentric)

130KG x 10 (Break 4 reps, 3 reps, 2 reps, 1 rep, too painful to just go on)
120KG x 10 (Break 3 reps, 3 reps, 2 reps, 2 reps)
110KG x 10 (Just went through all the reps)

Romanian Deadlifts

100KG x 10
95KG x 10
90KG x 10

Fcuk painful stretch on hamstrings....gawd!!! Why does this have to be so torturous!

Clean Shrug

70KG x 2 (too fast, gotta load up)
100KG x 10
90KG x 10
90KG x 10 (Tore my callouses here)

Rows

90KG x 10 (Deloaded each rep)
80KG x 10
80KG x 10

Pull-Ups

3 x 10

Took nearly 10 minutes to complete all the reps, keep resting

Abs

3 x god knows how many reps la.

Friday (17 July 2008)


Back Squats

3 x 10 x 110KG

Push Press

50KG x 10
45KG x 10
45KG x 10

Close Grip Bench Press

75KG x 3 x 10

BTN Press

40KG x 10
40KG x 10
35KG x 10

Abs

5x5 As heavy as possible

Jerk Recovery

5 x 5 @ 120KG

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 18 2008, 10:41 AM)
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It's something, very difficult to finish. First week I took 2 hours to complete. Second week, 1 hour 5 minutes. Still equally difficult but somehow felt stronger and more able to power past the workouts.

Complex eh.....hehehe, wait till you see the strength and speed phase. This isn't even the taper and peaking phase yet. Damn complex, until I baca also I scared to do already.

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Pizzaboy, I have two questions for you.

Olympic lifters constantly move big weights to an overhead position, are there any exercises that you do to keep your shoulders healthy and flexible? I'm sure you know that if your shoulders are not healthy and flexible you can dream about snatching or jerking (not jerking off)

Also, are there any exercises that you lifters use to strengthen the core? The reason I ask is because I know that lifting the bar over your head puts alot of stress on the core, so how do you build a core strong enough to withstand the stress of olympic lifting?

Thanks
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We stretch a lot after training usually, dynamic, isometric and band stretches.

To strengthen core, either you can do direct core work, or do indirect ones like drop snatches, lifting about 20KG above our maximum jerk and standing there for as long as possible. Quite a lot of isometric work honestly, I believe that isometric could be very well one of the best ways to strengthen our weakest spots and further strengthen our already strong areas. It strengthens the CNS (I believe the CNS is one of the main areas which need to be trained, if one were to look to be stronger) and strengthens the joints as well. Of course this will be followed with calcium and Vitamin-A pills afterward.

My previous coach was also a sucker for heavy overhead squats which murdered our core. I'll also carry unusually shaped objects and walk around with them. Walking lunges with weights overhead also. Jumping overhead squats as well. All these, but they're usually trained during the strength phase.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 18 2008, 04:19 PM)
We stretch a lot after training usually, dynamic, isometric and band stretches.

To strengthen core, either you can do direct core work, or do indirect ones like drop snatches, lifting about 20KG above our maximum jerk and standing there for as long as possible. Quite a lot of isometric work honestly, I believe that isometric could be very well one of the best ways to strengthen our weakest spots and further strengthen our already strong areas. It strengthens the CNS (I believe the CNS is one of the main areas which need to be trained, if one were to look to be stronger) and strengthens the joints as well. Of course this will be followed with calcium and Vitamin-A pills afterward.

My previous coach was also a sucker for heavy overhead squats which murdered our core.  I'll also carry unusually shaped objects and walk around with them. Walking lunges with weights overhead also. Jumping overhead squats as well. All these, but they're usually trained during the strength phase.
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Power snatched, 40KG for a few reps and 50KG for a few reps. Very strange feeling to be snatching again, can't really remember or feel the snatching movement. But it was all good, got back into the groove. Using a frog style to snatch now because I can't keep my back arched and grip wide enough if I use the conventional stance. Need to adjust

Power cleaned and jerked up to 70KG for a few sets. Mostly single power clean and double jerks, just to get the technique back into me. Man I miss olympic lifting.

Did full clean and jerks for 100KG x 2, 105KG x 1, 110KG x 1 and 115KG x 1 (PR). Interesting how my clean has literally jumped off the roof and I can catch the 115KG at a half squat position instead of a full deep squat. Felt more like power cleans

Squatted 70KG x 5, 90KG x 5, 120KG x 2 x 5, 140KG x 6, 150KG x2x1

My new coach miscalculated and thought the 140KG was 120KG. I thought I was weak so I just did a few more extra reps of the 140. Loaded 150 thinking it was 130KG and got quite pissed at myself for the weak performance. When I cleared the weights, I noticed it was actually 150.

Apparently my plateau is purely mental related. I can do 140KG x 6 and I'll be chasing up 150KG for 3 in two weeks. I WILL get 150KG x 3 in 2 weeks. My goal of 170KG seems quite achievable.

Did some light stretching and drove back. Yes. biggrin.gif
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where do you grapple?
izzit in KL or Melaka?
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KL. In my friend, friend's place. It's just a double story house. The guy lives upstairs and has the "dojo" downstairs.

Pretty cool place.

But not much lar, nowdays loads of events. SO no time for it.
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OOoohh nice.

your friend welcomes a fellow jiu jitsu enthusiast or not?
Long time never roll de.
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OOoohh nice.

your friend welcomes a fellow jiu jitsu enthusiast or not?
Long time never roll de.
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Erh, I think we'd like to keep it small. Sorry man....not my decision...

Anyway today's workout sucked ass....just kept snatching light to recorrect my technique. I'm using the "frog style" of snatching now so that I can keep my torso straighter instead of having it curved slightly. The difference is immense, but a lot of tweaking is required to use this method. However, the benefits are quite obvious even in such short term because I'm able to sit in a more comfortable position and focus on pulling instead of keeping my torso straight at the last minute.

Power cleaned 70KG and jerked it a bit, nothing significant. Very weak today. Perhaps the entire funeral totally drained me out.

Tmr going back to Bkt Jalil. Hello Sir Martin Tambakau....I think that's my coach's name.....or something martin...


Added on July 31, 2008, 8:33 pmThere's been too many stupid questions and statements in the forum these days.

Ask me anything, and I'll answer them to what I can. I believe answering and asking questions, will help me learn more as well.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Jul 31 2008, 06:05 PM)
Erh, I think we'd like to keep it small. Sorry man....not my decision...

Anyway today's workout sucked ass....just kept snatching light to recorrect my technique. I'm using the "frog style" of snatching now so that I can keep my torso straighter instead of having it curved slightly. The difference is immense, but a lot of tweaking is required to use this method. However, the benefits are quite obvious even in such short term because I'm able to sit in a more comfortable position and focus on pulling instead of keeping my torso straight at the last minute.

Power cleaned 70KG and jerked it a bit, nothing significant. Very weak today. Perhaps the entire funeral totally drained me out.

Tmr going back to Bkt Jalil. Hello Sir Martin Tambakau....I think that's my coach's name.....or something martin...


Added on July 31, 2008, 8:33 pmThere's been too many stupid questions and statements in the forum these days.

Ask me anything, and I'll answer them to what I can. I believe answering and asking questions, will help me learn more as well.
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U got accepted into bukit jalil?
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Something like that. They've three categories.

1 is the national lifters
1 is the reserve lifters
1 are the ones that want to train there, and gotta exhibit enough interest. (me!)

And 100 plus before bed is good. Makes you gain 10LBS in bodymass in a week.
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The stupidity I've been reading in the recent threads are appalling. It's almost disgusting when questions like "Will 100+ make you fat", "Drinking milo before sleep" "Washing feet before sleep bad for health" "Screaming while sleeping"

Good god, what kind of people do we have in this world nowadays? IF you're fcuking screaming in your sleep, look for a godamn doctor or psychiatric clinic.
If you think drinking milo before sleep's going to make you fat, then fcuking DON'T drink milo before you sleep

And if 100+ is going to make you fat and obese, then fcuking drink gatorade or coke instead!

and if you thini washing feet before sleeping is bad for your health (for god knows what reasoN), then don't FCUKING WASH YOUR LEG THEN!

I've never understood what people believed in this "The cold and chills in the night is bad for your bones" and what cock. Oh please! You bet I believe that. They probably have the activity level of a 2 month old baby, and when they get some sores and pains, it's because of the cold. Good heavens, go workout and increase your bone density, eat better food and keep a healthier lifestyle, and you'll fcuking be fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's time to die, you'll die! If you need medical analysis, do you think that Health and Fitness is the place to ask about it? Heavens, read PUBMED if you need to learn more about your death defying diseases. (Makes me puke thinking how stupid some people can be!)

If you fcuking think that milo because of the sugars are going to make you fat, then drink ais kosong when at the bloody mamak la mah cheebai!!!!!!! What the konek lancau is wrong with your brains? Do you even have one?!!!!!!!!!??? C0ck ball brains.

Can we just fcking stop answering and opening such stupid threads? Do you really need a WHOLE thread to ask about whether or not your penis needs to be circumcised? If you believe in god, then god. IF you don't like me, then the human body has been developed through the years. If our body felt it was necessary to have our c0ckheads exposed, then it'll be born like that.

I see no fcuking need in cutting off the skin, unless off medical and religious purposes. What's wrong with you people sometimes? Cubicles, just use them. Wash your d!ckhead after you pee and when you pee, pull the foreskin behind. Is you stupid or something mofcuker?!???

OHHHHHHHHH GOD THE LEVEL OF STUPIDITY MALAYSIANS HAVE SOMETIMESSSSSSSSSSSSS.......NO WONDER BN IS STILL IN CHARGE!!!!!!
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yes I' pissed off seeing stupid lazy people
stupid never mind
lazy....oh god

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Omg Pizzaboy, I can't agree with you more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And how long will you be training in Bukit Jalil?

Also just curious, how close are you to 'SEA Games Standard'. I'm sure those who qualify for SEA Games can snatch + clean & jerk certain amount of weights, so how close are you to those standards?

All the best! And hope you get to Laos!
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HAHA LOL!

Ya, i dont really read nor open threads like that, i just leave them alone, hope that they will sink to the bottom. And its basically fools in CC that post crap like those.

But the opposite has happened, those really meaningful and helpful threads get sinked to the bottom. SIGH.

Well, just ignore those bozos, stop replying to their threads and WORK HARD weih.
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Friday's Workout

Started off with power snatches. 40KG for 12-14 times. I'm learning to use the frog style snatches as it helps my torso stay straight and arched. Excellent way of snatching, should've used this method much earlier.

Was a little clumsy doing the squat snatches. Couldn't really squat down properly while catching the bar.

Power cleaned and jerked 70 for two, 90 for four and 100KG for a double. Had problems jerking. Gotta push faster.

Deadlifted 120KG for a triple, 140KG for doubles, 160KG for a single and 180KG for two singles. First single was easy. Second single saw my upper back giving up.

Went to do some squat cleans because I felt a little slow after doing the deadlifts, so pulled 100KG for 4

Weighted abs for 2 sets of 10.

Sorta boring workout.
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Clean and jerked 50KG for triples, 70KG for triples and a double 90KG clean and jerk
I still have issues with the jerk portion, so my coach advised me to go on cleaning to my max and do some jerks.

Cleaned all the way to 120KG's which was extremely difficult and went down to 110KG for 3, 100KG and power cleaned it for 4. Now was shocked me was that I could REALLY power clean 100KG's with very minimal leg bend. Just a slight scoop and plonk! That was it

Moved on to doing 140KG x 3 x 3 of clean pulls. Nothing much there.

Some snatches at 50KG AND STILL having issues with dropping under quickly enough.

Rack jerks to 90KG for a few reps and did abs until I couldn't feel it.

THat was it.....home sweet hom.......home sweet seri kembangan jaya jusco for dinner...

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Wednesday Workout

Power snatched up to 40-50KG for about 6-7 times.
Squat snatched 60KG for 5
Upped to 65KG and felt much more stable surprisingly....I stopped thinking that I had to slide it up my thighs real quick, I just reminded myself, to explode the moment the bar touched my hip and catch with my head facing forward.

That's helped quite a bit. Kept my back tense and cranked it hard the moment I lifted off the ground.

Up to 70KG for a few reps and felt more and more solid. Looks like I'll be touching my 100KG faster than I thought. biggrin.gif

Pulled 100KG pretty dammed high as well.....I'll upload a video later.


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Added on August 8, 2008, 9:46 amThursday Night Training

Snatched 40KG for a few reps, squat snatched 60KG for about 6 reps or so....70KG for two singles, 72KG for a single.....
80KG saw a PR, but I missed the first lift from dropping it backwards. I wasn't even trying hard to tie it anyway.
80Kg the second time saw it much better, but I rushed to get up when the bar was moving forward. Managed to stand but didn't get to keep the feet close.

And naturally.....cameras misfire and skip when you get a PR. Fcuk.

Snatched 60KG for a few reps again, and suddenly power snatched it. Strange....it became easier to power snatch it as I learned to squat snatch

Did a few sets of front squats, 3-4 @ 90KG for about 5-6 reps...went really light as I was still hyped about my snatch success
Great stuff. Will be looking to snatch 90KG within this 1 1/2 months.

Probably will hit 100KG snatch within this year, and a 140KG clean and jerk

Oh and surprisingly......bodyfat seems to have dropped....

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Snatched 40KG for a few reps, squat snatched 60KG for about 6 reps or so....70KG for two singles, 72KG for a single.....
80KG saw a PR, but I missed the first lift from dropping it backwards. I wasn't even trying hard to tie it anyway.
80Kg the second time saw it much better, but I rushed to get up when the bar was moving forward. Managed to stand but didn't get to keep the feet close.

And naturally.....cameras misfire and skip when you get a PR. Fcuk.

Snatched 60KG for a few reps again, and suddenly power snatched it. Strange....it became easier to power snatch it as I learned to squat snatch

Did a few sets of front squats, 3-4 @ 90KG for about 5-6 reps...went really light as I was still hyped about my snatch success
Great stuff. Will be looking to snatch 90KG within this 1 1/2 months.

Probably will hit 100KG snatch within this year, and a 140KG clean and jerk

Oh and surprisingly......bodyfat seems to have dropped....


Added on August 8, 2008, 10:20 am


Feckin hilarious and yet .....inspirational in a bit.
poor guy has NEVER seen a 50M pool, he only swims in 20M pools and was only training a few months before.
How'd he manage to enter? Via wildcard.....
Hilarious

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HAHAHAHA that was gold!!! lol funny watched it 3 times...4 month wonder from new guine


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HAHAHAHA that was gold!!! lol funny watched it 3 times...4 month wonder from new guine
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pizzaboy or anyone, i have questions regarding proper form of squats. It seems that when i do squats of about shoulder's width, there is stress being put on the knees area. Another thing i would like to ask is how to keep the knees behind the toes? I cant do so, probably my balancing is way off. Btw, i'm squatting with body weight only. 57kg. Could it be because of my legs are weak that is why i am experiencing these problems.? Any advice?
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I swear I could write an article about the stupidity of the theory of knees behind toes. It's the most fcuking stupid theory that man can make about the mechanical structure and systems of the human body.

Foolish bastards.

I wrote this article months ago about how to squat.
http://lifthard.com/2007/11/09/squatting/

Try to read it.
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TO learn the squat;

I stand strong in agreement with my coach on this one. The best way to learn to squat, is load the bar with 30KG's of weights, and do overhead squats for 10 reps, for about 4-5 sets.

There cannot be a better way to teach a deep, solid and build confidence in a lifter in squatting, than the overhead squat. Because the body cannot mess up, or it'll fall down when squatting, it'll learn to groove the body and ingrain neuro-muscular commands to do the squat right. And when you return to normal back squatting, it'll become extremely easy.

I squat about 160KG's for my tested max back squat, but I think I can hit 170KG's soon. And part of my improvement, I attribute to the overhead squat. The moment I could do overhead squats with 75KG's for 10 reps, that day itself I felt all solid at the right places, and flexible at the right places. It was like, seeing the light.
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Thanks for the advice. After trying with the toe angled outwards, much lesser stress being put on my knees.

Well i'm just trying do some squats without the bar coz my form itself is already bad. Terima kasih pizzaboy.
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Unfortunately, you're not going to learn the proper way of squatting, without the bar. The bar also has weight, and will teach your body how to learn forward and backwards. Despite the front and back squat, being about the same in movements, the mechanics and bodyparts involved are rather different. In fact, you'll find that many back squatters, cannot front squat half as well as they'd think they could the first time.

So my suggestion, is at least squat with an empty stick, above your head. Do an overhead squat with an empty stick. Please.


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QUOTE(shanecross @ Sep 14 2008, 09:34 PM)
Unfortunately, you're not going to learn the proper way of squatting, without the bar. The bar also has weight, and will teach your body how to learn forward and backwards. Despite the front and back squat, being about the same in movements, the mechanics and bodyparts involved are rather different. In fact, you'll find that many back squatters, cannot front squat half as well as they'd think they could the first time.

So my suggestion, is at least squat with an empty stick, above your head. Do an overhead squat with an empty stick. Please.


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Me is a guy. I dont have the bar but i do squats with weights overhead. sad.gif . Stopped lifting weights for some time already, so right now i just sort of warm up before goin back penang to work out on my own.

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I need a place to jot this down before the main site where I usually write my workouts come back up

Power snatch

40KG x 3 x 3
50KG x 4 x 3



Clean and jerk


20KG x 3 x 4
40KG x 5 x 3

Lunge (to strengthen the leg position on the jerk)

20KG x 100

Duck walk (To stretch the ankles and calves for more flexibility)

10 rounds x 15 meters

Back Squats

100KG x 3 x 5

Dumbbell Bench

60LBS x 2 x 8
80LBS x 2 x 6

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Hey pizzaboy, what's the name of that pullup video you posted some time ago? It had a half naked, masked dude doing pullups, outdoors.

For the life of me, I can't remember the name at all. Thanks.
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Dude, can help me find a back that's caved in, because the person did too much bench press and no emphasis on the back. thanks man.
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Dude, can help me find a back that's caved in, because the person did too much bench press and no emphasis on the back. thanks man.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 26 2008, 07:54 PM)
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Aiya...... simple english also you dont understand.... He's saying... he wants you to find him a donor for a back thats not caved in to replace the one he has now that has not received much back training because the previous owner of the back he is using only did bench presses

Wooooooooo this is ur brain on Lipo-6

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Pizzaboy!! you're the best. Even though I have no questions for you, I read and love your replies. You da man!!!!! Anyway I got a question to shoot, those large exersice balls .. are they good for hoe usage?
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You are one confused fellow.

Those large exercise balls? You mean the swiss ball?
Yeah, they're useful for a few things.
This is the best way I can think of using it;

http://rosstraining.com/articles/thewaterball.html

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And let me think of another way to use it....you could possibly fill it with sand and try cleaning and pressing it
Besides that....swiss ball's are great for...putting your legs on it and try to do pushups. If your face doesn't slam the ground and you break a teeth, by the 6th rep, you're doing it wrong.

It's a toy, think of how to play with the toy.

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Aiya...... simple english also you dont understand.... He's saying... he wants you to find him a donor for a back thats not caved in to replace the one he has now that has not received much back training because the previous owner of the back he is using only did bench presses

Wooooooooo this is ur brain on Lipo-6
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 26 2008, 11:23 PM)
You are one confused fellow.

Those large exercise balls? You mean the swiss ball?
Yeah, they're useful for a few things.
This is the best way I can think of using it;

http://rosstraining.com/articles/thewaterball.html

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And let me think of another way to use it....you could possibly fill it with sand and try cleaning and pressing it
Besides that....swiss ball's are great for...putting your legs on it and try to do pushups. If your face doesn't slam the ground and you break a teeth, by the 6th rep, you're doing it wrong.

It's a toy, think of how to play with the toy.
It's just YOUR brain on lipo-6. My brain on Lipo-6 just goes "hungry hungry hungry!"
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yo bro, i don't quite understand the "bold" statement of yours. Do you mean, if i happened to do push-up correctly with the swiss ball, i only able to do it up to 6 reps?
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Preparatory Phase

Snatch

20KG x 2 x 5
40KG x 2 x 3
50KG x 2
60KG x 3
70KG x 2
72KG x 5 x 3 (Missed 3 lifts, one front, two insufficient height, second pull must increase. Use blocks or high pull from floor)

Snatch Pull From Floor

90KG x 2 x 3
100KG x 5 x 3

Snatch Pull From Hang Below Knee

60KG x 5 x 3 (Need to increase calf strength. My technique uses calf strength, thus I cannot neglect calf strength. Oleg Perepetchenov uses a pop. I use a kip)

Chest supported rows

50KG x 3 x 15

Called it a day.

Starting bodyweight: 80.10KG
Ending bodyweight: 79.1KG

Need to maintain, won't make it for the next competition at 85KG, so must maintain at 79-78KG.


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Front Squats

40KG x 2 x 3
50KG x 2 x 3
70KG x 1 x 3
90KG x 2 x 3
110KG x 3
120KG x 3
130KG x 5 x 3 (REP PR!)
110KG x 8

Upper back strength needs to be strengthened to hold the bar in a more stable position. Need more rows and pull-ups

Snatch Balance

20KG x 2 x 8
40KG x 5 x 5

Stability needs to be improved. More overhead squats may be required.


Starting Bodyweight: 79KG
Ending Bodyweight: 78.1KG

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pizzaboy,

When i go gym to do squat the trainer ask me not to do tht coz they said alot ppl damafe their knee..i m worry now.
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Nov 3 2008, 09:38 AM)
pizzaboy,

When i go gym to do squat the trainer ask me not to do tht coz they said alot ppl damafe their knee..i m worry now.
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Don't listen to the trainer, that's one of the stupidest things a trainer can ever say.

Squatting PROPERLY will not damage your knees, in fact it will even strengthen them. The keyword is PROPERLY, that means use full range of motion and squat below parallel, and never round your back.

Which gym is the trainer from?
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Pizzaboy I've a question here .. what's prob the best workout program for an meso-endo beginner ?
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When i go gym to do squat the trainer ask me not to do tht coz they said alot ppl damafe their knee..i m worry now.
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Tell that to Zhang Guozheng Olympic 69KG champ 2000, Shi Jiyong 62KG 2004 Olympic Champion, Mark Huster 1996 Olympic 105KG+ Silver medallist....tell that to our bronze medallist 1998 Commonwealth weightlifter, my former coach Matin Guntali.

Get my drift?

Yes it will damage your knees, if you're using 200KG'S and dive bomb squatting (which I'm sure you don't even know what the heck it is)

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Compound workouts. Rep ranges between 5-8. Sets between 4-6. Two major compound exercises a day. 4 times a week training. Controlled food intake.
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Compound workouts. Rep ranges between 5-8. Sets between 4-6. Two major compound exercises a day. 4 times a week training. Controlled food intake.
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Sorry but may I know why?
What do u recommend for weak shoulders? I mean I can feel that it is crackin when I am doing pull down blink.gif
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Oct 26 2008, 11:23 PM)
You are one confused fellow.

Those large exercise balls? You mean the swiss ball?
Yeah, they're useful for a few things.
This is the best way I can think of using it;

http://rosstraining.com/articles/thewaterball.html

user posted image

And let me think of another way to use it....you could possibly fill it with sand and try cleaning and pressing it
Besides that....swiss ball's are great for...putting your legs on it and try to do pushups. If your face doesn't slam the ground and you break a teeth, by the 6th rep, you're doing it wrong.

It's a toy, think of how to play with the toy.
It's just YOUR brain on lipo-6. My brain on Lipo-6 just goes "hungry hungry hungry!"
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The gym i use to go to has this balls filled with air, and people do crunches on them, and also another position I am not sure but it has the stomach on the ball with the knees facing the floor with two arms behind the head and the body is slowly lifted up but not fully, similiar to a crunch but facing downwards. Well just asking your opinion if those things are suitable to be done on the Swiss ball.
By the way Ive seen people doing push ups on that thing and they dont really slam the floor after 6 rep or are you meaning it as a joke?

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Nov 3 2008, 01:06 PM)
Don't listen to the trainer, that's one of the stupidest things a trainer can ever say.

Squatting PROPERLY will not damage your knees, in fact it will even strengthen them. The keyword is PROPERLY, that means use full range of motion and squat below parallel, and never round your back.

Which gym is the trainer from?
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somewhere is penang one.
I only squat 45Kg only...


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Tell that to Zhang Guozheng Olympic 69KG champ 2000, Shi Jiyong 62KG 2004 Olympic Champion, Mark Huster 1996 Olympic 105KG+ Silver medallist....tell that to our bronze medallist 1998 Commonwealth weightlifter, my former coach Matin Guntali.

Get my drift?

Yes it will damage your knees, if you're using 200KG'S and dive bomb squatting (which I'm sure you don't even know what the heck it is)
Compound workouts. Rep ranges between 5-8. Sets between 4-6. Two major compound exercises a day. 4 times a week training. Controlled food intake.
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Yup i get your drift...learn something new from pizzaboy today.."dive bomb squating"

the gym instructor said in long term it will damage...esp when get older.

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i think i get what u mean Humping^Panda, i once injured myself from squat too, i cant remember the weight but i think it was heavy for me at that time, but it is due to bad form .....but now i`m ok liao:)

starting with 45 is good enuf, i started squatting at 40~45 too, 5~7 reps..and i increased it after every session and i squat 3 times a week (something like bill star 5X5). Now i can squat 130kg for 3 reps....it is so hard to surpass 125kg...
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what is dive bomb squatting? Lowering the body too quickly during the squat?
Speaking of damage due to squats, I have seen a gross pic of a body builder who had his entire stomach rupture out of his anus through his body suit. You can google it but its very gross so dunt if you cant stand that kind of thing.

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Sorry but may I know why?
What do u recommend for weak shoulders? I mean I can feel that it is crackin when I am doing pull down  blink.gif
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Rep ranges between 5-8. Sets between 4-6. Two major compound exercises a day. 4 times a week training. Controlled food intake.

5-8 rep ranges maintains good posture but still taxes the muscles and CNS. As you get heavier, go for up to 5 reps.
Multiple sets keeps you fresh for each set and when it's broken down this way, your body gets to learn the movement more efficiently. The key to being better at something, is to keep doing it.
4x a week ensures you have sufficient training and sufficient rest.
Controlled food intake's because he's an endo, and too much food and they gain too much fat. The liquid diet is great here, but I'm not so sure about how the liquid diet works for strength gains. I'm sure it's okay, but only till a certain level.



Scapular pre-hab work. Google. Find De Franco's article for scapular work.
The dumbbell can be your good friend.
Also stretching.

QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Nov 3 2008, 04:48 PM)
The gym i use to go to has this balls filled with air, and people do crunches on them, and also another position I am not sure but it has the stomach on the ball with the knees facing the floor with two arms behind the head and the body is slowly lifted up but not fully, similiar to a crunch but facing downwards. Well just asking your opinion if those things are suitable to be done on the Swiss ball.
By the way Ive seen people doing push ups on that thing and they dont really slam the floor after 6 rep or are you meaning it as a joke?
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Nov 3 2008, 05:15 PM)
somewhere is penang one.
I only squat 45Kg only...


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Yup i get your drift...learn something new from pizzaboy today.."dive bomb squating"

the gym instructor said in long term it will damage...esp when get older.
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Ask him to check the video of Tom Platz doing doing 23 reps with 500LBS of squats.



Ask him to check the video of Jose Postigo



There may be a day that your knee gives up on you.

But with training the squats, you prolong that from happening. And if you listen to your body, and as you age, you reduce the weights and train to maintain your fitness levels, you're quite safe. Do not "brake" in the middle of the squat. Use your body's own stretch reflex that comes from the hips and hamstrings and glutes to get up. That's why I say, squat deep.

If you DO feel your knee giving issues, take glucosamine and fish oil. Jogging, spoils your knee. THat's true.
But joggers knees will still be healthy and strong for a longer time than a person that's sedentary..


QUOTE(beatlesalbum @ Nov 3 2008, 06:12 PM)
what is dive bomb squatting? Lowering the body too quickly during the squat?
Speaking of damage due to squats, I have seen a gross pic of a body builder who had his entire stomach rupture out of his anus through his body suit. You can google it but its very gross so dunt if you cant stand that kind of thing.
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You mean this?

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Dive bomb squatting, is when someone lowers themselves way too fast, and often causes a shift in the ankle positioning as well as rounding of the lower back. When your ankle repositions itself without a conscious control, you may dislocate the knee. This is especially rampant in wide stance, deep squatting, but I can't think of too many people that do wide stance deep squats.

The proper way of squatting, which has been working fine for many weightlifting teams around the world, is a 1.5 second descend and explosive squat up. The rules of Olympic squatting is, go deep, back arched or straight, sit between your legs (this takes forever to explain, I'm not going to do that) hips take the bulk of the weight. AND KNEES, GO IN FRONT OF YOUR STUPID TOES!

http://drsquat.com/knowledge-base <--find his article about squatting and tell those people that ask you to squat with your knees behind the toes to shut up. What? You want to live your life doing good morning squats? Go ahead. Have an imbalanced muscular development especially with your quads being underdeveloped. Then risk having injuries when your body can take more weight but your quads become a weakness. And THAT'S when you get knee injuries.

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Actually I think I've been lifting weight for half year but rarely gain any progress due to poor diet and lack of consistency and motivation because of insufficient equipments ( FYI I didn't join a gym before this, just thinking to join gym because holiday is around ) ...

I'm wondering if high intensity low volume suits me ? Is it better for ganing strength and muscle ?
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As a beginner, ANYTHING will suit you.

Heck the first time I started squatting, I squatted 50KGx4x10 ( I still rmbr!) High reps they say are for hypertrophy and not strength gains, but I still got stronger.
In two weeks, I was squatting 65KG

At the beginning, you're not getting stronger (so to speak) It's your muscles getting smarter at a particular movement so it becomes more efficient. When you get to a certain level, this is when you choose to go either high rep for added muscle mass or low rep for added neuromuscular efficiency, more myofibrillar hypertrophy.
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Monday (3rd November 2008)

Snatch

40KG x 2 x 3
50KG x 2 x 3
70KG x 6 x 2
60KG x 4 x 2

Snatch Balance

20KG x 5
40KG x 5
50KG x 3 x 5
60KG x 2 x 5
70KG x 2 x 3
80KG x 2 x 3 (Asyik jatuh bergolek.....)
60KG x 6 x 3

Front Squat

50KG x 5
70KG x 3
90KG x 3
110KG x 3
120KG x 2 x 3
130KG x 3 x 1
140KG x 1 (Woooooooooooooohhh heavy like mad on my upper back)
150KG x 1 (Eh? I think I just did a PR by accident......Whee!!)


Tuesday (4th November 2008)
Clean and jerk

20KG x 3
50KG x 5 x 3 (Seriously bad jerks.......shoulder and biceps felt peculiarly weak)
70KG x 3 (Kept jerking like crap....decided to stop jerking.)

Cleans

70KG x 2
90KG x 2
110KG x 2
120KG x 4
125KG x 0 (Bar fell and I can't stand in time to catch)

Seriously, the rate of my cleans against my jerks are horrible. My cleans are strong compared to my darned jerks

Half Jerk From Rack

50Kg x 3 x 5
70KG x 5
80KG x 2 x 5
90KG x 2 x 5
100KG x 2 x 3
110KG x 8 x 1

Ouchh.....my shoulders are tired as hell.

Clean Pull

90KG x 2 x 3
110KG x 2 x 3
130KG x 3 x 3
140KG x 4 x 3

Jerks with plastic bar

120 x

Burp.....I can feel my tummy going haywire..


I've been reading about pressing strength and overhead lockout strength. I think I'll be adding some bench presses back again..
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Hi Pizzaboy, since you thread says 'Ask Pizzaboy ANYTHING', I'll take that at face value and pose the following questions to you:

1) If by whatever reason you were elected to be the Prime Minister of this country, name one policy that you will introduce IMMEDIATELY (Aside from the policy that states that every housing area must have Olympic Weightlifting facilities fully equipped with bumper plates, GHR and whatever neccesary).

2) Relating to question 1, what would you do to eradicate poverty amongst Malaysians? (Besides letting the hungry eat the homeless)

3) I am Front Squat addict, currently front squatting only 60kg for 5 reps (ATG of course). I aim to reach the 100kg by July or August next year. I know I will reach 100kg sooner or later, and I am willing to work hard. What I would like to know is how possible is this goal. Very possible? Plausible? Tough?

4) Relating to question 4, what advice would you give me in order to achieve the 100kg mark (asides from shut the f*** up and squat)? Surely when it comes to squatting this amount of weight, there are certain weak links that inexperienced lifters do not know about. With the amount of experience you have, can you please tell me what I should look out for? Wrist strength, back strength etc etc.

I thank you in advance for the knowledge you are about to impart on me. Stay strong.
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Nov 13 2008, 08:15 PM)
Hi Pizzaboy, since you thread says 'Ask Pizzaboy ANYTHING', I'll take that at face value and pose the following questions to you:

1) If by whatever reason you were elected to be the Prime Minister of this country, name one policy that you will introduce IMMEDIATELY (Aside from the policy that states that every housing area must have Olympic Weightlifting facilities fully equipped with bumper plates, GHR and whatever neccesary).

2) Relating to question 1, what would you do to eradicate poverty amongst Malaysians? (Besides letting the hungry eat the homeless)

3) I am Front Squat addict, currently front squatting only 60kg for 5 reps (ATG of course). I aim to reach the 100kg by July or August next year. I know I will reach 100kg sooner or later, and I am willing to work hard. What I would like to know is how possible is this goal. Very possible? Plausible? Tough?

4) Relating to question 4, what advice would you give me in order to achieve the 100kg mark (asides from shut the f*** up and squat)? Surely when it comes to squatting this amount of weight, there are certain weak links that inexperienced lifters do not know about. With the amount of experience you have, can you please tell me what I should look out for? Wrist strength, back strength etc etc.

I thank you in advance for the knowledge you are about to impart on me. Stay strong.
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1. The elimination of protectionism and the introduction of a free market. Then I'll put Bumiputra rights to the real Bumis and Malays would have to fight for their own share of the pie. Malay ministers that have constant complaints from the public, will be checked, if necessary removed. Corrupt ones would be hung to be stoned to death in KLCC and then all their wealth and money be donated to the homeless.

The military will be under my power and anybody who disagrees and stages a protest, will be sniped to death. And if the sniper has extra bullets, yeah anybody around there ...go snipe them. And of course, I'll be sending orders from New York because I'm likely to get killed having that policy in Malaysia.

2. One of the biggest reasons for poverty among Malaysians is due to uneven wealth distribution. Thus when every man fights for himself, only the best wins. In the case of the true poor (and not to mention lazy and stupid) I'll send them to Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, Russia with just enough money to survive for a year, to have their butts kicked even more and come back to Malaysia for the good of his/her own.

3. Impossible not to reach.

4. From 60-100KG's going to be a joke. The 100KG-140KG's going to be murderously hard. Then 140-160's going to be a joke again. When I hit the 170KG front squat mark, I'll tell you.

Anyway my prescription would be along the lines of strengthening upper back strength because;

When the upper back's weak, your arms cannot hold the bar up. Thus forces your lower back to curve to catch the bar while your leg is struggling just to stand up. This forces your center of gravity all to your knees and toes and is VERY bad for everything. With a strong back, your center of gravity is right on in the middle thus being very strong. Your entire body is working solidly.

"Stop grabbing the bar like your life depends on it"

Too many people squeeze the shit outta the bar but for whaT? All your strength will come from the arms and you're basically not training your legs which is what you're aiming for. Your body provides the ISOMETRIC strength, while the legs provide the dynamic strength for moving the bar upwards. So learn to let the grip looser and use your leg strength while your body holds in position.

Increase your ankle flexibility

Sure it's always going to be easier not squatting too deep but when your ankle's inflexible, your center of gravity is shifted .....to the heels. This causes you to be bloody unstable as you're not able to sit on your calves and get up. Your center of gravity is very important in lifting weights, stable and strong.

Use a bounce

Unless you're training for pure muscular growth, every second in tension is important. But if you just want speed, a slow descend and explosive ascend is the way to go. Knee damage? That's why you need an ankle that's flexible enough. Oh btw, you can't bounce without a flexible ankle. Good luck trying, your hips will be the one feeling the strain (I think it's called the piriformis)

Learn to relax and tense

Too many people I see tense all the way when they front squat even in my gym. Watch the video of Vencelas Dabaya front squatting. He isn't straining at all at the top, neither is he straining while he's descending. His strain begins the moment he ascends because that's when you need your muscles to explode instantly. To explain this particular theory is going to take forever, so just learn to relax at the top, CONTROL your tension while descending and immediately squeeze the hell as you're going up. BUT NOT YOUR ARMS. Just use your arms to hold the bar in position.

Address your weak points

Figure out your weakest points. Single joint training is magical in this. Quad weak? Bulgarian squats and step ups. Weak at 3/4 of the movement? Use a rack at 3/4 of the movement. Weak from lowest position? Learn to use a bounce and also do more jumps. Jump to a rack, jump up and down, squat full and jump explosively upwards. All these would help.

If all else fails, google Smolov.


Added on November 14, 2008, 7:46 pmAnd no I do not bulk and cut.

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hey, wat ya recommend for love handles? and abs? obliques too...thank you~
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Damn, is pizzaboy your mentor? If he is, i eat chicken rice ball with your mentor, you should be jealous
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Argh! Pizzaboy would kill me with his vast knowledge of Malaysia's political scene. U shud hear him when he speaks about corruption. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Nov 16 2008, 01:45 AM)
hey, wat ya recommend for love handles? and abs? obliques too...thank you~
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Let's see.....oblique works and abs....Heavy farmer walks. Sandbag shouldering. Leg raises with knees straight.
This will all work to strengthen it especially sandbag shouldering. Maybe even tire flipping and definitely some sledgehammer work on a tire. Why do you want to strengthen your obliques specifically?

As for love handles, reduce bodyfat.

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pizzaboy, got any pic ? What you recommend for chest muslce ?
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Basically to gain muscle on your chest, is darned simple aight. Growing muscle, isn't really about any complex timing, technique, periodization, specificity...it's not even that difficult. If it's been working, it's going to fail. If it fails, change the rep scheme, weights, perhaps reduce the accessory exercises and increase the main work. If that's worked, reduce the main work and increase the accessory. Instead of using barbells, use dumbbells. Try strengthening your other supporting bodyparts. That's it. SOmehow or rather it'll work.

If barbell bench works, then use that. When it stops working, use dumbbell bench. If that fails, go back to barbells and increase the weights reduce the reps and increase sets. If that has worked, change to a high rep, medium sets scheme like up to 12-20 reps x 5 sets and then go home, eat and rest. Among all the sports that require the usage of weights, building muscle is perhaps the easiest.

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 16 2008, 02:49 PM)
Let's see.....oblique works and abs....Heavy farmer walks. Sandbag shouldering. Leg raises with knees straight.
This will all work to strengthen it especially sandbag shouldering. Maybe even tire flipping and definitely some sledgehammer work on a tire. Why do you want to strengthen your obliques specifically?

As for love handles, reduce bodyfat.
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Not specifically,I am just wondering what order exercise that are good for abs. it seems that the only one that i can do is leg raise smile.gif.
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Pizza I want ask your opinion. I am skinny ectomorph/meso type. My weight is 62kg height 169cm. Just started training 2 month ago, till now. You think this is a good split for me? I am a beginner, but been training on and off because its hard to see improvement. Now I am better prepared financially, I eat properly 5 portions a day. Got improvement on weight increase 7kg (previously my weight was 55kg).

Exercise A: Chest/Arms/Elbow Workout

Dumbell Press 3 X 8
Hammer Curls / Bicep curls 3 x 8
Military Press 3 x 8
Dumbell Fly Over 3 X 8
Shrugs 2 x 10
Pushups 3 x 8

Exercise B: Legs/Back

Dumbell Deadlift/Squats 3 x 10
Bent Over Row 3 x 8
Goodmornings 2x10
Dumbell Rows 3 X 10
Dumbell Lunges 2 x 8
Calf Raise 1 X 10

monday (A) --> wednesday (B) --> saturday (A)
monday (B) --> wednesday (A) --> saturday (B)

My main concern is overtraining. Still sore from legs day, think I off training today.


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Not specifically,I am just wondering what order exercise that are good for abs. it seems that the only one that i can do is leg raise smile.gif.
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A sandbag is darned easy to make. Just google up "diy sandbag"
A sledgehammer @ 8LBS costs only RM28 (Wooden/bamboo handle) and a tire costs.....RM0
Just depends how much you want to put other's advice into your training or how much you'd rather stay in the comfort zone.

QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Nov 17 2008, 02:14 PM)
Pizza I want ask your opinion. I am skinny ectomorph/meso type.  My weight is 62kg height 169cm.  Just started training 2 month ago, till now.  You think this is a good split for me? I am a beginner, but been training on and off because its hard to see improvement. Now I am better prepared financially, I eat properly 5 portions a day.  Got improvement on weight increase 7kg (previously my weight was 55kg).

Exercise A: Chest/Arms/Elbow Workout

Dumbell Press 3 X 8
Hammer Curls / Bicep curls 3 x 8
Military Press 3 x 8
Dumbell Fly Over 3 X 8
Shrugs 2 x 10
Pushups 3 x 8

Exercise B: Legs/Back

Dumbell Deadlift/Squats 3 x 10
Bent Over Row 3 x 8
Goodmornings 2x10
Dumbell Rows 3 X 10
Dumbell Lunges 2 x 8
Calf Raise 1 X 10

monday (A) --> wednesday (B) --> saturday (A)
monday (B) --> wednesday (A) --> saturday (B)

My main concern is overtraining.  Still sore from legs day, think I off training today.
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Actually, the least of your concern should be overtraining. Your routine's too light to inflict overtraining. In fact, your entire workout isn't really a workout. It's closer to a warmup before a competition.

You can't exert the most muscle recruitment with dumbbells. Barbells are better at this because you're able to use more weights. With dumbbells, your muscles are working harder at stabilizing the weights. Sounds like a good thing but it's not really if you're aiming to gain mass. It's great for strength though.

I'd rather change your workout this way. In a bodybuilder POV;
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This.....would require you to worry about overtraining. Your most important exercise, is always your first exercise. Make sure to increase the weight of each set (even 2LBS is an increase) and you must use your 6 rep max to finish your last set of five reps. Next week, increase that last set of 5 reps weight by 5LBS. If no 5LBS, 2.5LBS also can.

For example, your squat 6RM is 100KG. You take that 100KG for the last set of your 5x5 exercise. The last set must be the heaviest. Kinda like;

1st set:80KGx5
2nd set:85KG x 5
3rd set: 90KG x 5
4th set: 95KG x 5
5th set: 100KG x 5

Try this for six-eight weeks......this might cause overtraining, but don't worry about it. It's the most overrated bullcrap ever...half you guys will never overtrain. Oh and yeah, eat a lot please. You're welcome to add an extra exercise or two anytime you feel stronger....or if you're feeling weak, drop a set or two. Nothing in this routine's set in stone....so you can change here and there.
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pizzaboy, got any pic ? What you recommend for chest muslce ?
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Look at my chest. Or the lack of it tongue.gif
Just so you know, I don't train the bench, with an aim to beef up my chest. When I do bench press, I do it in the close grip bench or clean grip (to strengthen my triceps lockout). My only purpose of doing the push-up is to produce more explosive strength and for an occasional show-off factor of being the only clown that can do 100 push-ups. tongue.gif

Hmm......weighing in at 79.5KG and 78.0KG after training. (Pics were before training). I can understand why my coach says I need to move to 85KG's or 94KG. Way too skinny. Need some more mass to fill up my long ass limbs and torso. Time to get some bodybuilder's food in!! I hope I'll hit the 200KG back squat when I move to 85KG's. Grrr.


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Actually, the least of your concern should be overtraining. Your routine's too light to inflict overtraining. In fact, your entire workout isn't really a workout. It's closer to a warmup before a competition.

You can't exert the most muscle recruitment with dumbbells. Barbells are better at this because you're able to use more weights. With dumbbells, your muscles are working harder at stabilizing the weights. Sounds like a good thing but it's not really if you're aiming to gain mass. It's great for strength though.

I'd rather change your workout this way. In a bodybuilder POV;
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This.....would require you to worry about overtraining. Your most important exercise, is always your first exercise. Make sure to increase the weight of each set (even 2LBS is an increase) and you must use your 6 rep max to finish your last set of five reps. Next week, increase that last set of 5 reps weight by 5LBS. If no 5LBS, 2.5LBS also can.

For example, your squat 6RM is 100KG. You take that 100KG for the last set of your 5x5 exercise. The last set must be the heaviest. Kinda like;

1st set:80KGx5
2nd set:85KG x 5
3rd set: 90KG x 5
4th set: 95KG x 5
5th set: 100KG x 5

Try this for six-eight weeks......this might cause overtraining, but don't worry about it. It's the most overrated bullcrap ever...half you guys will never overtrain. Oh and yeah, eat a lot please. You're welcome to add an extra exercise or two anytime you feel stronger....or if you're feeling weak, drop a set or two. Nothing in this routine's set in stone....so you can change here and there.
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Wah thanks pizzaboy smile.gif The regime looks good. I am training at home, so I am still lacking equipment. All I have is a bench, some adjustable dumbells and a swiss ball. Gonna buy barbell bar after my paycheck and try the routine. Thanks again and gdluck on ur training. icon_rolleyes.gif
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OF course it's a good routine.

I basically threw in the concepts of Joe Defranco and some good old bodybuilding knowledge and stuff my coach taught me, and called this routine my own. tongue.gif I take no credit for discovering any of these stuff...I just put it in a simple form.

Anyway, that aside....If you don't have a barbell, DO NOT BUY ONE. Let me help you with this, because fitness isn't about a barbell and a dumbbell alone. There are other ways.

Ever since training with a DIY medicine ball (To increase explosive hip power), sledgehammer and tire (Increase grip and rotational core power), pushing my car (for quad strength), flipping rocks and stones (For grip, back, leg strength) and all that peculiar ways of exercise, I find my neuromuscular recruitment for almost all activities increasing. I'm sharper and much more alive (provided I've enough food and rest)

I strongly recommend;

http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/10/27/mo...ipment-updates/

http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157

DIY these stuff. They're amazing! And they make phenomenal results. And if you're wondering "Can I gain weight with these crap?"

Of course you can. Eat more, and you'll see those numbers going up. I'm now advocating ONLY ghetto training for those that train at home. Trust my words on this, just trust my words.......these will help you in more ways than a dumbbell and barbell alone.

I've ever persuaded a guy that does 200KG deadlifts and another that deadlifts 170KG's to try such training methods. They're, usually left gassed out. One of them even texted me "Dude, my quads are fried and it's just the first set.....should I go on?"

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I'll even help you out with how to train these stuf.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 18 2008, 08:56 PM)
OF course it's a good routine.

I basically threw in the concepts of Joe Defranco and some good old bodybuilding knowledge and stuff my coach taught me, and called this routine my own. tongue.gif I take no credit for discovering any of these stuff...I just put it in a simple form.

Anyway, that aside....If you don't have a barbell, DO NOT BUY ONE. Let me help you with this, because fitness isn't about a barbell and a dumbbell alone. There are other ways.

Ever since training with a DIY medicine ball (To increase explosive hip power), sledgehammer and tire (Increase grip and rotational core power), pushing my car (for quad strength), flipping rocks and stones (For grip, back, leg strength) and all that peculiar ways of exercise, I find my neuromuscular recruitment for almost all activities increasing. I'm sharper and much more alive (provided I've enough food and rest)

I strongly recommend;

http://rosstraining.com/blog/2008/10/27/mo...ipment-updates/

http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157

DIY these stuff. They're amazing! And they make phenomenal results. And if you're wondering "Can I gain weight with these crap?"

Of course you can. Eat more, and you'll see those numbers going up. I'm now advocating ONLY ghetto training for those that train at home. Trust my words on this, just trust my words.......these will help you in more ways than a dumbbell and barbell alone.

I've ever persuaded a guy that does 200KG deadlifts and another that deadlifts 170KG's to try such training methods. They're, usually left gassed out. One of them even texted me "Dude, my quads are fried and it's just the first set.....should I go on?"

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I'll even help you out with how to train these stuf.
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the 200 and 170 guy damn familiar
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whr u get those stuffs?
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Hardware stores. Lorry tire shops. Open your eyes when you drive around, you'll be surprised to see so many places where you can find loads of stuff where you can DIY. It all depends on your creativity.

But if you're a total left brainer, then forget it.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 19 2008, 08:35 AM)
Hardware stores. Lorry tire shops. Open your eyes when you drive around, you'll be surprised to see so many places where you can find loads of stuff where you can DIY. It all depends on your creativity.

But if you're a total left brainer, then forget it.
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The DIY stuff quite hard to do sweat.gif sweat.gif without proper power tools. The training looks more geared toward athlete style training in my opinion.
burpee > sprint 100m > clapping pushup > jog smile.gif repeat 6x
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got question. I'm going to start rippetoe starting strength. Going to find a gym at Shah Alam today. I'm going to do

sets x reps

3x5 back Squat
3x5 benchpress
3x5 deadlift

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Then accessory exercise.

Now the problem is what weight should I start. and what accesory exercise should I do. My target is muscular chest and 6 pax And any Shah Alam gym you know got the barbell and benchpress rack? Thank you blush.gif

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The DIY stuff quite hard to do  sweat.gif  sweat.gif without proper power tools. The training looks more geared toward athlete style training in my opinion.
burpee > sprint 100m > clapping pushup > jog  smile.gif  repeat 6x
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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Nov 19 2008, 10:51 AM)
got question. I'm going to start rippetoe starting strength. Going to find a gym at Shah Alam today. I'm going to do

sets x reps

3x5 back Squat
3x5 benchpress
3x5 deadlift

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Then accessory exercise.

Now the problem is what weight should I start. and what accesory exercise should I do. My target is muscular chest and 6 pax And any Shah Alam gym you know got the barbell and benchpress rack? Thank you  blush.gif
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Hardware stores. Lorry tire shops. Open your eyes when you drive around, you'll be surprised to see so many places where you can find loads of stuff where you can DIY. It all depends on your creativity.

But if you're a total left brainer, then forget it.
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hey i have a question, how to reduce water retention? share some of ur exp pls. TY
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hey i have a question, how to reduce water retention?  share some of ur exp pls. TY
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Reduce sodium intake.
Eat more fruits and take more green tea.
Reduce your carb intake

I don't really bother about this, as I don't have to reduce my weight for anything, except for competitions. But I've got luck on my side with my metabolism....so cutting weight is never an issue. Making weight is.
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Today I read an article.
It scares me.

It's believed that with talent, a weightlifter can be at an international level within .....7 years.
Just a mere 2 years for the technique, and another 5 years to develop the strength and speed.
Based on mere theory, a non-gifted lifter, would take about 10 years. 5 years just to develop proper technique and ingrain it, and still another 5 years to be able to develop the strength to stand up with a 210KG with a 94KG bodyweight.

That's too long. I need to be in at least one major game before I turn 30 or I'll probably never make it into the international scene. I'm aiming for at least the Commonwealth games one day.

I'll need to gain between 96KG's -100KG's and maintain around that number and drop when competitions hover. I need to get much stronger and hit a 200KG front squat in two years. From 140KG-200KG is going to be a huge jump, but in two years I hope I can manage it. On my calculations, if I maintain 2.5KG gains per month, I can get there. By then I hope to have developed a 230KG back squat as well. I'm not bothered about deadlifts but if I can clean pull about 250KG. It'll be around 550LBS.

Hopefully my cleans move up to the 180KG region. I'm easily cleaning 120KG now, but I know in this sport, those gains end at 140KG. The next 40KG's can take years to accomplish but I'm determined to get it no matter what. Be it vitamins, more supplements, tonnes of food or even steroids, I must try to reach a 180KG clean in 2 years and hopefully a 140KG snatch.

I know I sound like a retarded little newbie in weightlifting aiming for so much in so little time, but I'll do that with an increase in bodyweight. A 180KG clean in 94KG's isn't even close to good. It's average as hell.

How am I going to do that will be via higher repetition work. I'll squat thrice or maybe even 4 times a week.
My 5 sessions of Olympic weightlifting will need to be increased to 5 heavy sessions (evening) , and 2 light ones (morning). Conditioning needs to take a back seat with 1 conditioning session a week. The only reason conditioning is still in there is because I don't want to die of a cardiac arrest after gaining 19KG's in two years (Not that much, but I don't know what I'll be like at 96KG's). Okay fine, it's because I still want to look relatively lean.

Parties have to stop. Liquor has to stop. Well that's no issue, I only drink wine and beer anyway. I'll have to sleep by 12AM. Oh god.....what a life. Dedication to the sport I must have...here we go!


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Nov 24 2008, 10:15 AM)
Today I read an article.
It scares me.

It's believed that with talent, a weightlifter can be at an international level within .....7 years.
Just a mere 2 years for the technique, and another 5 years to develop the strength and speed.
Based on mere theory, a non-gifted lifter, would take about 10 years. 5 years just to develop proper technique and ingrain it, and still another 5 years to be able to develop the strength to stand up with a 210KG with a 94KG bodyweight.

That's too long. I need to be in at least one major game before I turn 30 or I'll probably never make it into the international scene. I'm aiming for at least the Commonwealth games one day.

I'll need to gain between 96KG's -100KG's and maintain around that number and drop when competitions hover. I need to get much stronger and hit a 200KG front squat in two years. From 140KG-200KG is going to be a huge jump, but in two years I hope I can manage it. On my calculations, if I maintain 2.5KG gains per month, I can get there. By then I hope to have developed a 230KG back squat as well. I'm not bothered about deadlifts but if I can clean pull about 250KG. It'll be around 550LBS.

Hopefully my cleans move up to the 180KG region. I'm easily cleaning 120KG now, but I know in this sport, those gains end at 140KG. The next 40KG's can take years to accomplish but I'm determined to get it no matter what. Be it vitamins, more supplements, tonnes of food or even steroids, I must try to reach a 180KG clean in 2 years and hopefully a 140KG snatch.

I know I sound like a retarded little newbie in weightlifting aiming for so much in so little time, but I'll do that with an increase in bodyweight. A 180KG clean in 94KG's isn't even close to good. It's average as hell.

How am I going to do that will be via higher repetition work. I'll squat thrice or maybe even 4 times a week.
My 5 sessions of Olympic weightlifting will need to be increased to 5 heavy sessions (evening) , and 2 light ones (morning). Conditioning needs to take a back seat with 1 conditioning session a week. The only reason conditioning is still in there is because I don't want to die of a cardiac arrest after gaining 19KG's in two years (Not that much, but I don't know what I'll be like at 96KG's). Okay fine, it's because I still want to look relatively lean.

Parties have to stop. Liquor has to stop. Well that's no issue, I only drink wine and beer anyway. I'll have to sleep by 12AM. Oh god.....what a life. Dedication to the sport I must have...here we go!


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i think its part of the new healthier life with a sexier goal
keep it up...
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Thank you for the help with my front squat questions.

I wish you all the best in your weightlifting journey.

Who knows you might just win a medal in the olympics, then we'll have to call you DATUK Pizzaboy
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pizzaboy, I have a question about the squat.

I recently realised that I have a butt wink when I do an ATG squat. I don't know how to explain what it is, but my butt scuttles in a bit towards the end of my movement. If I wanna go ATG, that is absolutely unavoidable.

It's not like my back curls or anything, but my butt 'winks' at the end of the motion, which isn't entirely a good thing.

Is it normal? Are ATG squats normally like that? I don't see any possibility of pulling off an ATG squat without the butt moving in a bit towards the end.
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I know.

This is usually caused by tight hamstrings, glutes and lower back. Adductors, are also surprisingly very much involved in the causing of the butt wink. I never knew that until I noticed that most people that just begin working out, will have very painful adductors, which I began stretching my brother's one and noticed that it worked.

Easiest, stretch your hamstrings and glutes after your workout. Then your adductors and hips (via the butterfly stretch) Also search the "Goblet Squat' and squat Rx videos on youtube. That'll give you further guidance.
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I wish you all the best in your weightlifting journey.

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So it is possible to get down without the butt wink.

But in the meantime while I work on my flexibility, I should avoid the butt wink?
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We all don't mind the medal, but the datuk thing..don't.Hahaha..If we start chanting Malaysia Boleh....The Islamic Department might pop by and catch you...ya know...ya can't chant....
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So it is possible to get down without the butt wink.

But in the meantime while I work on my flexibility, I should avoid the butt wink?
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It is of course possible. Personally, this is what I tried and almost fixed my butt wink immediately.

Chest high up
Arms close to shoulders when gripping
Super arch my back
Imagine your knees going DOWN.

And a lot of front squats
Front squats somehow or rather teach your body the groove to sit down without the butt wink.

And stretching will help a lot
Personally, I believe a lot in active stretching and have the weights press you down to the right position while you comfortably sit.
Keep asking, until you get this right. Keep me updated please.
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Okay, I'm just afraid with over 100kg on my back I may start injuring myself. However, I'm oblivious to any strain whatsoever.

Understandably, an olympic/commonwealth lifter should have increased flexibility.

What do you do to increase your flexibility? Any recommended sureshot stretches?

Also, what do you mean imagine my knees going down? My motion is mostly hips (i.e. the nonsensical knees not moving too far forward actually applies to me) which brings me low enough.


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Just imagine your knees, breaking through your shins. Okay that sounds gory, but basically like that. Just imagine your knees, going right through your shins, while your chest is up and your back is arched.

Cold stretching actually means you can't get the full ROM and if you try too hard to stretch past it, you may actually tear. So usually, I prefer to do it when I'm slightly warmer, so yeah a jog would usually do well.

And don't do ballistic stretch where you keep bouncing bouncing like that. It makes no purpose as your muscles are supposed to be held in a certain stretch for at least 5 seconds before your body tells itself to relax (remember, body is a self defence mechanism) and that it's not a threat.

So hold a stretch for at least 5 seconds and increase the stretching time as you get more flexible.
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Thanks. I need to contract my muscles for an 'active stretch' amirite?
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You must always relax your muscles for it to stretch.
Google up terms that you don't understand. You'll learn more, much more than when I spoon feed you.
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Cheers. Also I heard that Jenhan made his trip down this weekend to see you, so thanks for that.


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Yeah, but he didn't update me on anything about how he feels, if he's learned anything, anything that he needs cleared and explained.
He didn't really ask much, not even about nutrition. Weird
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Well being a novice, he kinda didn't know what to ask or what to be taught. I told him to get the big 5 out of you because that's what Rippetoe consisted of. It seemed like he wasn't able to get around learning the Pendlay Row or (regular) Squats because he didn't know what to ask.

I doubt it was him being disinterested, it was more of him being unsure of what's going on or what needs to be known.


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I didn't teach him the row because it always takes forever to teach. I just taught him the chest supported dumbbell rows...imperfect in comparison, but much easier to teach. As long as he learns to activate his back and not his arms, it's alright I believe.

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And then when he figures out how to do it right, he'll be able to use a barbell. But in commercial gyms, it's a lil complicated to do this.

I recommended him to do the front squats, so the moment he does a back squat, his body'll automatically know what to do. I don't have his contacts apart from his phone number, but ask him to PM me his email and MSN.
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Yeah, I kinda relayed the same sort of information that you taught him a more complex lift, which is the front squat and he will automatically know what a back squat should feel like, which is good.

I'll let him know you're around to give advice.
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Flexibility has increased, I believe my squat form is gradually improving.

It may also be attributed to a more proper start position (chest out more prominently, closer bar grip, ass out more, and head looking downwards).

Doesn't matter how I got to a better form, as long as it's here, eh?


Added on December 10, 2008, 8:17 amquestion for you: what does your waistline measure?

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PIZZABOY...i've finally found this thread. super noob. anyways..i'll PM you about my contacts. dude, i am not disinterested in anyway, i am just as mofonyx says, unsure and lost at the moment but i'll be getting there dude, all thanks to pizzaboy.
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hi pizzaboy!

What's the different between weight gainers and whey protein?

i'm noobs and still learning bout dis weight training stuff.Sory if the question sounds stupid
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When comes to Barbell(Straight bar), they have Olympic Barbell and the Standard Barbell. Olympics require 2" weight plates to fit inside and Standard barbells only fits for 1" weight plates which is standard. Olympic barbells are mostly longer and heavier than Standard barbell. The weight capacity for Olympic barbell is also far more higher than Standard Barbell. Since I already bought all my weight plates and bars the standard one, I don't feel like investing into Olympic's(Cost a bomb and need to renew all my 1" plates into 2" plates ZOMG). May I ask any experienced user here who use Standard Barbell have experienced with bending? Actually my target is to reach 200kg for the Standard Barbell but I am afraid it will bend. I bought my barbell in Fitness Concept, 60" Standard Barbell which weigh around 7kg. Any suggestion or solution? Thanks for helping.
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Eh dude, is there such thing as a DIY dumbbell using simple materials?

Got a link to help me with that?
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Flexibility has increased, I believe my squat form is gradually improving.

It may also be attributed to a more proper start position (chest out more prominently, closer bar grip, ass out more, and head looking downwards).

Doesn't matter how I got to a better form, as long as it's here, eh?


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QUOTE(gsuwizard @ Dec 15 2008, 08:36 PM)
hi pizzaboy!

What's the different between weight gainers and whey protein?

i'm noobs and still learning bout dis weight training stuff.Sory if the question sounds stupid
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Weight gainers makes you pay for protein and loads of sugar and carbo and a lil fat content here and there for the added calorie count. Also their serving size is 2 scoops. That's why you see it has about 40gms of protein per serving.

Protein makes you pay for protein. Just pure simple protein, with a bit of BCAA and leucine and a bunch of other vitamins. And usually per serving, you'll get bout 24 grams/scoop.

QUOTE(Icy-Flow @ Dec 24 2008, 07:31 PM)
When comes to Barbell(Straight bar), they have Olympic Barbell and the Standard Barbell. Olympics require 2" weight plates to fit inside and Standard barbells only fits for 1" weight plates which is standard. Olympic barbells are mostly longer and heavier than Standard barbell. The weight capacity for Olympic barbell is also far more higher than Standard Barbell. Since I already bought all my weight plates and bars the standard one, I don't feel like investing into Olympic's(Cost a bomb and need to renew all my 1" plates into 2" plates ZOMG). May I ask any experienced user here who use Standard Barbell have experienced with bending? Actually my target is to reach 200kg for the Standard Barbell but I am afraid it will bend. I bought my barbell in Fitness Concept, 60" Standard Barbell which weigh around 7kg. Any suggestion or solution? Thanks for helping.
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It won't take 200KG. I squatted with 160KG with a standard barbell once, it bent right in the middle. Then I ran out of the gym.

QUOTE(Kyoyagami @ Jan 5 2009, 12:00 PM)
Eh dude, is there such thing as a DIY dumbbell using simple materials?

Got a link to help me with that?
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Google, "DIY DUmbbell
http://www.rosstraining.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=157

Rosstraining's down at the moment. Wait till it goes up again.


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Nope.

I don't need protein as my recovery time is quite fast. Finish training, down some glucose and straight have dinner. Wake up next day, I'm all good to go.

I have some leftover protein shakes at home which I drink when I've nothing to eat and I'm lazy to go out. That's the only purpose of protein shakes in my opinion. After all, I'm maintaining at this bodyweight till Sukma 2010 so I've no issues with my weight at the moment.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Dec 2 2008, 12:02 PM)
I didn't teach him the row because it always takes forever to teach. I just taught him the chest supported dumbbell rows...imperfect in comparison, but much easier to teach. As long as he learns to activate his back and not his arms, it's alright I believe.

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i've been rowing for some time(bent row to be exact), but i don't really feel that i'm rowing with my back. any guideline to ensure that i'm activating back instead of arms?
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i've been rowing for some time(bent row to be exact), but i don't really feel that i'm rowing with my back. any guideline to ensure that i'm activating back instead of arms?
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Drop the weights, and find the feel of your lats. When you find it, you can slowly increase the weights

If you're just for looks, do more cable work. Pull behind the neck if your shoulder is flexible.
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Hi pizzaboy, i;m on rippetoe's & try to add weight nearly every exercise but i found that my squat is not progressing.

Now my deadlift weight also exceeding my squat. Whats happening ? Also when i at the bottom of squat or halfway up, my lower back feels a bit funny, not pain but a dull feeling like an ache will come soon.
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Hi pizzaboy, i;m on rippetoe's &  try to add weight nearly every exercise but i found that my squat is not progressing.

Now my deadlift weight also exceeding my squat. Whats happening ? Also when i at the bottom of squat or halfway up, my lower back feels a bit funny, not pain but a dull feeling like an ache will come soon.
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Your deadlift is supposed to be higher than your squat.

I'll leave the rest to Pizzaboy
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QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 15 2009, 11:39 AM)
Hi pizzaboy, i;m on rippetoe's &  try to add weight nearly every exercise but i found that my squat is not progressing.

Now my deadlift weight also exceeding my squat. Whats happening ? Also when i at the bottom of squat or halfway up, my lower back feels a bit funny, not pain but a dull feeling like an ache will come soon.
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IF... your lower back has "no feel" to it.
IT's like...how should I say, your lower back has lost a feel to it, like you can't contract it when you want to, it's fatigue. When this comes, take a break.

Another method I like to use to squat is;

1. Lower myself and totally squeeze the crap of my legs while I'm moving downwards.
2. Imagine myself pulling the barbell downwards instead of letting gravity push me downwards. I must control the bar.
3. At the lowest point, use all that tension and "jump" upwards. Just powerfully explode upwards

The sticking point is where your body is working against the most uncomfortable positions against gravity. Thus a powerful explosive movement is required to break against this "point". Some people call it cheating, I call it, cleverly manipulating disadvantageous positions for your own good. Weightlifters use this method very often, and my coach does a 265KG back squat at 69KG bodyweight. Pyros Dimas does a 330KG back squat at 85KG with that method.

If anybody calls that cheating, tell that to my coach.

Or another method you can do is after your training, add single limb leg work. Pistols, lunges, bulgarian squats......these work well. About 4-5 sets of 10-15 reps should be good.
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IF... your lower back has "no feel" to it.
IT's like...how should I say, your lower back has lost a feel to it, like you can't contract it when you want to, it's fatigue. When this comes, take a break.

Another method I like to use to squat is;

1. Lower myself and totally squeeze the crap of my legs while I'm moving downwards.
2. Imagine myself pulling the barbell downwards instead of letting gravity push me downwards. I must control the bar.
3. At the lowest point, use all that tension and "jump" upwards. Just powerfully explode upwards

The sticking point is where your body is working against the most uncomfortable positions against gravity. Thus a powerful explosive movement is required to break against this "point". Some people call it cheating, I call it, cleverly manipulating disadvantageous positions for your own good. Weightlifters use this method very often, and my coach does a 265KG back squat at 69KG bodyweight. Pyros Dimas does a 330KG back squat at 85KG with that method.

If anybody calls that cheating, tell that to my coach.

Or another method you can do is after your training, add single limb leg work. Pistols, lunges, bulgarian squats......these work well. About 4-5 sets of 10-15 reps should be good.
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Hi, glad to c ur back !

Does that mean going down will be faster than normal ? I like to rest a while after going down to collect my energy b4 going up. So if following ur method this shouldn't be happening ? What if i rest a 2s when i reach the top ?

Lots Q cos i find the squat the most complex exercise so far. Hate it but i can't help liking the exhaustion it gives me.
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It's completely the opposite of what you just said.

All I said is;

GO down by controlling the bar's downward movement. Aiya, basically...just don't let the bar push you on the ground. Be sure what the hell you're doing with the bar. YOu control the bar, not the bar control you.

The weight should be on your legs, NOT your lower back. Use your lower back and back to support the weight, but your legs to push yourself up.

It's hard to explain.....you'll need to find it yourself. And yes you can rest 2 seconds. When I'm squatting 101-105% of my old max, I rest up to 5 seconds.

Dude you ain't scratched the surface of complex yet.....wait till you learn to implement kettlebells and dumbbell swings.


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kettlebells and dumbell swings? like crosstraining? isn't that dangerous swinging heavy stuff like dat? just curious never tried anything close to that.
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Boss ! It worked ! I did not hesitate at the bottom of my squat & found dat it really helped. Smoooooh up back all the way. It was a big difference.

I guess i shouldn't stop at when its hardest at my sticking point (dats wat i did in the past) cos when i did it i couldn't move anymore & thought every rep is going to be the END.

Thanks !!


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kettlebells and dumbell swings? like crosstraining? isn't that dangerous swinging heavy stuff like dat? just curious never tried anything close to that.
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No, it isn't.

It's merely another tool, to improve fitness. Cross training is a method used by many fighters because it helps increase "usable" strength (aka repetitive strength) increase power, and increase conditioning levels. Just because someone does a dumbbell swing doesn't mean he's doing cross training. He could just be looking for a way to increase hip power.

As for swinging heavy stuff, we "swing" with control.

My Olympic weightlifting coach has always said to me;

"You control the bar, you never let the bar control you"

If you are lifting 40KG'S, use 40KG'S of power.

However, in my case, coach always tells me to use slightly less power than the weights lifted. If lifting 100KG'S, use 95KG'S of power.
Why the hell would anybody in the right mind do that?

SO we can develop speed. Speed+power+strength+technique=Olympic weightlifting.

QUOTE(mrPOTATO @ Jan 19 2009, 10:20 PM)
Boss ! It worked ! I did not hesitate at the bottom of my squat & found dat it really helped. Smoooooh up back all the way. It was a big difference.

I guess i shouldn't stop at when its hardest at my sticking point (dats wat i did in the past) cos when i did it i couldn't move anymore & thought every rep is going to be the END.

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I've never seen anybody pause with squats, unless we're doing squats to stretch our ankles.
Pausing squats=suicide at maximal weights

Well unless ur box squattin dat is.
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Bro I tried the Rosstraining magic 50.. it uses dumbell swing and dumbell snatch. http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/themagic50.html

The swing i kept my arms straight till overhead level..with the snatch i use heavier weight and snatch it (bending the elbow) till the dumbell it over the head.

Can't really tell the difference between the two..don know if i am doing it rite. I watched the demo on youtube, they both look almost the same.

Thanks. BTW when is ur next big competition?
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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Jan 25 2009, 10:08 PM)
Bro I tried the Rosstraining magic 50.. it uses dumbell swing and dumbell snatch.  http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/themagic50.html

The swing i kept my arms straight till overhead level..with the snatch i use heavier weight and snatch it (bending the elbow) till the dumbell it over the head.

Can't really tell the difference between the two..don know if i am doing it rite. I watched the demo on youtube, they both look almost the same.

Thanks. BTW when is ur next big competition?
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It's completely different. Btw, you don't swing till overhead level. You swing till it's about slightly higher than your eye level.
But the snatching thing you're doing it right.

Next big comp is in March or May, depending when my coach decides I'm ready and can win.

Btw, how did the magic 50 feel?
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First time i did dis kinda circuit training..crash on the 4th circuit. Ok la next time i try to finish it. Quiet a workout in such a short amount of time. Good for conditioning i presume.
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First time i did dis kinda circuit training..crash on the 4th circuit. Ok la next time i try to finish it. Quiet a workout in such a short amount of time. Good for conditioning i presume.
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It's excellent for all rounder workouts.
I ain't joking but I know a counter-terrorist in Sg that followed these routines to increase his conditioning for his test. It worked wonders.

Counter Terrorist= Highest level of all military action people. More powah than commando.
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It's excellent for all rounder workouts.
I ain't joking but I know a counter-terrorist in Sg that followed these routines to increase his conditioning for his test. It worked wonders.

Counter Terrorist= Highest level of all military action people. More powah than commando.
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Ya i read that a lot of military style training are circuit based. Carry sandbag, run 500 meters, then pushups etc etc. Its for core strength and muscle endurance which is more important in the battlefield.
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I only got 8 hours of class in a week and usually finish my assignments and studies pretty quick. I train only 3-4 hours a day nowadays, as I don't procrastinate to finish my workouts anymore.

Yeah I've got time for the weemins. In fact, I've got time to pierce my lips, stretch my earlobes, go train, read about training, meet up with my friends, go for beers, test drive cars, write for my blog, watch television. Yeah, pretty much all the normal guy would do.
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I only got 8 hours of class in a week and usually finish my assignments and studies pretty quick. I train only 3-4 hours a day nowadays, as I don't procrastinate to finish my workouts anymore.

Yeah I've got time for the weemins. In fact, I've got time to pierce my lips, stretch my earlobes, go train, read about training, meet up with my friends, go for beers, test drive cars, write for my blog, watch television. Yeah, pretty much all the normal guy would do.
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Amazingly balanced lifestyle. It's books, chicken breast and gym for me. I can't rotate out of my comfort zone.
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Amazingly balanced lifestyle. It's books, chicken breast and gym for me. I can't rotate out of my comfort zone.
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OH OH!
I used to be like that;

"Training, Eat, Read articles about training"

It came to a point where I could write a paper about fast twitch and slow twitch and conversion of slow->fast twitch and type 1 and 2 fibers and all that. I could explain to you about how protein is broken into aminos and reconstructed into your muscles via DNA coding and how steroids can alter that. I think, that's why I could understand your statement about mitochondria and breakdown of cells and free radicals. Then again it was a pretty simple statement.

Then it struck me that, what the crap am I learning all this for? I'm in a management school and I want to move to the sports and strength coaching or media and entertainment industry. I don't need THAT much detail. At least not yet. So now it's more balanced, and I still learn the important things about training. I'm not gonna make the best sports coach yet, but I've got mah foundation right. Live life biggrin.gif
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hey pizza boy....im looking for sumone to guide me for my squats and deadlifts...where u located maybe i can come over for a few sessions to learn and see how u do it...
very interested... i wanna build up my jumping capabilities and destroy the chiken leg image... thankz mate
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Other than chicken, beef...(them meaty stuffs) What can i use as alternative to creatine for prebedtime(For approx 30g protein)
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 14 2009, 05:08 AM)
hey pizza boy....im looking for sumone to guide me for my squats and deadlifts...where u located maybe i can come over for a few sessions to learn and see how u do it...
very interested... i wanna build up my jumping capabilities and destroy the chiken leg image...  thankz mate
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melaka bro... =.=
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Mar 14 2009, 05:08 AM)
hey pizza boy....im looking for sumone to guide me for my squats and deadlifts...where u located maybe i can come over for a few sessions to learn and see how u do it...
very interested... i wanna build up my jumping capabilities and destroy the chiken leg image...  thankz mate
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I'm located in Melaka, so chances are you won't be interested in coming all the way down just to learn about training. Only few people do.

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To pizzaboy:

Other than chicken, beef...(them meaty stuffs) What can i use as alternative to creatine for prebedtime(For approx 30g protein)
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Creatine powder.
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huh?does creatine gives protein?
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It doesn't. He gave me a weird question. I gave him a weird answer.


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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 15 2009, 02:25 AM)
It doesn't. He gave me a weird question. I gave him a weird answer.
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Omg i didnt realize i mistook creatine for casein! So terribly sorry blush.gif I meant an alternative to casein lol biggrin.gif

*Has a strange feeling my grammar up there is misleading...oh well*

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Mar 15 2009, 08:27 AM)
Whoever wants to go to malacca, prepare yourself for the scorching heat from the sun.
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It's even hotter now. I'm either in my room, in the computer lab or in classes. I literally hide away from the sun because it's so darned hot nowadays.

QUOTE(roxxor89 @ Mar 15 2009, 01:01 PM)
Omg i didnt realize i mistook creatine for casein! So terribly sorry  blush.gif  I meant an alternative to casein lol  biggrin.gif

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I thought you really meant creatine, because all those meat has creatine, only in tiny amounts. That's why people take creatine supplements because you'd need to eat a LOT of meat for a tiny amount of creatine.

Anyway, what to replace casein? The LYN favorite is milk. Full cream milk. For me? I think it's way overrated. I'd just eat some form of meat for supper, maybe drink a shake and eggs perhaps, and go to bed. In no way do I agree to people waking up in the middle of the night to take more protein. Please lah....agak-agak abit. Your body needs rest, you go and wake up, interrupt your sleep and recovery time and go take protein. Gampang cam sotong.

Don't get caught up in too much science and research and theories. That's my advice to you.
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hehe... i feel fine! i am surprise actually.
i can walk even after all those squats. =.=
i think i am just feeling 20% of the pain i felt last week.
i am kinda surprise too.
maybe the pain will come later.
lets see how... hahahahha
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hey man you're into only Oly lift now? not interested in strongmen ka...we need strong people like you. lolll

max deads in Strongmen last week is 450kg, and the guy claimed he can do 500kg but not enough plates sweat.gif

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hey man you're into only Oly lift now? not interested in strongmen ka...we need strong people like you. lolll

max deads in Strongmen last week is 450kg, and the guy claimed he can do 500kg but not enough plates sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bata @ Mar 24 2009, 03:41 AM)
hey man you're into only Oly lift now? not interested in strongmen ka...we need strong people like you. lolll

max deads in Strongmen last week is 450kg, and the guy claimed he can do 500kg but not enough plates sweat.gif

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Interested....but I can't deadlift wan.

And...

450KG?? That's stronger than Savickas, Derek Poundstone, Marius!
And 500KG'S stronger than Andy Bolton's deadlift. You SURE he can do that?

Got pictures??
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Crikey, 1000lbs.. how much does he weigh?
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errr...not sure but he's kinda fat biggrin.gif

QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 24 2009, 10:13 AM)
Interested....but I can't deadlift wan.

And...

450KG?? That's stronger than Savickas, Derek Poundstone, Marius!
And 500KG'S stronger than Andy Bolton's deadlift. You SURE he can do that?

Got pictures??
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im on phone with the guy for 6th place, he deadlifted 350kg. and he told the winner lift 450kg.
not sure coz im not there tongue.gif

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OMG I'm SO proud of this guy. First time he came to Melaka to learn from me, he couldn't even press without fainting. He pulled 60KG'S and nearly blacked out. And look what he's doing now after 3 months!!

This is the kinda feeling my coach said to me last time, finally I'm experiencing it. Awesome incredible feeling
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pizzaboy,

That was yesterday? I was there in the afternoon and I saw the winner. He was training with one of the recent IFBB Mr Asia.


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why he can progress so much in just 3 months sweat.gif

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QUOTE(N0eL @ Mar 25 2009, 12:01 AM)
pizzaboy,

That was yesterday? I was there in the afternoon and I saw the winner. He was training with one of the recent IFBB Mr Asia.
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I don't know when it is but I just got this news from a friend that knew I trained him before. So I just talked to him about it, and he even got this video. I'm so proud about it biggrin.gif

QUOTE(bata @ Mar 25 2009, 12:37 AM)
why he can progress so much in just 3 months sweat.gif

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Right form, right execution, hard work, good routine and clever to improvise and mix it around, and of course, mesomorph genetics.
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gosh... impressive. makes me wanna do more. wakkakaa... =.=
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Mar 24 2009, 11:36 PM)

OMG I'm SO proud of this guy. First time he came to Melaka to learn from me, he couldn't even press without fainting. He pulled 60KG'S and nearly blacked out. And look what he's doing now after 3 months!!

This is the kinda feeling my coach said to me last time, finally I'm experiencing it. Awesome incredible feeling
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who organize the competition and where ?
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I have no idea. But I think it's California Fitness Sunway. I think so lah, looks like it.

I just got the vid from a friend.
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Damn, that's impressive!
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3 months and he's doing those weights? WOW. I've seen some dudes who've been in my gym as long as I still doing the same weights without any variation whatsoever.

Kudos!
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QUOTE(mcbarney666 @ Mar 27 2009, 08:13 AM)
3 months and he's doing those weights? WOW. I've seen some dudes who've been in my gym as long as I still doing the same weights without any variation whatsoever.

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That's because he has pretty good form with his workouts. He can avoid injury, work the right muscle parts and with a good routine, these little advantages sum up to a huge advantage over his peers. I've not taught him the explosive drive from a squat though.
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