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FerrariST
post Jun 6 2008, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(blasturanus @ Jun 6 2008, 02:11 PM)
is it advisable to buy a perdana now that the fuel price sky rocket? are there any cars which offers the same comfort, power , second hand value as the perdana but consume less fuel? FYi, my budget is approx rm40 k..

any comments about waja, elantra, sonata? come close to perdana but consume less fuel?
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bro,

my advice to you, if you want to have confort and fuel economy with that 40k budget is best to look for year 97 - 99 civic, the one which can adjust the driving style (fuel econ - speed mode)




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post Jun 25 2008, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Apr 23 2008, 12:36 AM)
my house get v6 as company car too...since 1999..
really quiet and comfortable this car... test top speed can only go 170-180 and even that haf to off overdrive(3rd gear)... despite proton say it can go 205kph... no way i think !
proton shud replace this car... too old .. i mean its a flagship proton but dash and stuffs are lagging behind waja which is cheaper car, even odometer also oldskool use analog... airbag also tarak.. no mp3 player..
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my standard auto 2002 v6 can go 215~220kmh flex.gif
tried it 3 times already.
twice tried it alone, once with 2 frens in the car watching dvd.. biggrin.gif


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:21 am
QUOTE(KaMbInGtOmPoK @ Apr 23 2008, 10:49 AM)
Just want to verify with u all perdana owner...

is it worthy buying Pv6 new facelift
(manufactured 03, registered january 04)
for 56K?

I found one and test-drove it last wednesday...

dreamt bout it every night eversince..hehehehhe...

any info for me before i sign the bank loan?
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for me, buying a v6 worth every damn cent.
i've had my 2002 v6 for 2 years now, and loving it. rclxms.gif

but a 2003 v6 going for RM56K?
i think u must nego summore, get it lowered to ~ RM50K


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:38 am
QUOTE(momochi zabuza @ Apr 24 2008, 05:32 PM)
okay i've conducted my fuel consumption test.. hehe

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17 april = 136590
21 april = 136819
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total distance = 229 .. fill in RM 50 on 17 april.

that's my report.. what do you think? normal or not?
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QUOTE(terryykf @ Apr 29 2008, 12:45 AM)
Hello everyone, im a V6 2002 owner. I fill up fulltank with Vpow for RM 120 and drive 381 km. izzit normal?
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my calculations.
i usually fill-up full-tank and do calculations based on full-tank of petrol.
standard auto 2002 v6 with little mod on the exhaust.
and this is based on light footedness, no hard revving, no pecut2 or racing..

old petrol price RM1.92 per litre (usually i do fill-ups RM 110 - RM 115)
RM 0.22 per km (town)
RM 0.16 per km (hiway)

new petrol price RM2.70 per litre (three full-tanks already RM 155 - RM 166 - RM 159 rclxub.gif giler.. hahaha..)
RM 0.31 per km (town)
RM 0.22 per km (hiway)


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:45 am
QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jun 4 2008, 02:02 PM)
Guys please help me here, let me explaint the problem i facing now.

I replace my v6 with a new battery during CNY. Until recently i cant start my car, and the alarm go off. (a sign that the battery is weak and flat)

so replaced v6 batt yesterday, but today i couldn't start my car anymore! before this i keep seeing the battery warning icon keep going on and off after i changed the batt. And i can clearly notice all the light within the meter is dim even the head lamp could't shine as far as it is, the digital clock is not bright. I realised that it may not be the battery problem, but maybe the alternator.

I'll like to know how much does a alternator cost in the market?

beside that what other possibilities could have causes my car not being able to start?
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it might be the alternator.
it happened to me before, not to my v6 but to my previous car.
the car won't start with new battery and every light goes dim.

went to workshop, checked, and found out the alternator rosak, it reversed the current..
meaning, the alternator pull all the current from battery, not recharging it..


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:48 am
QUOTE(pakhusin @ May 10 2008, 09:42 PM)
Sorry to interrupt,
My father owns a 2nd hand perdana V6 (yr 1999)
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Just want to ask, actually what is happening to P-V6 during 4800RPM??
Is that a something like Mivec or what?
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it is not mivec as standard v6 is not a mivec.
it just the max torque is around that rpm.
so it feels a bit like more power.

but for mivec or mivec-md, a lot more pull can be felt.

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 25 2008, 09:49 AM
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post Jun 27 2008, 01:19 PM

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A new V6 kaki report in!
Hi hi to all sifus & bros here.
My v6 owns a manual gearbox 222, v6 ori engine. opps my this is the 4th gear box, previous 3 nos are Auto.
My fuel consumption per tank can go 480km. Last time auto gearbox run only 400km.
Facing a prob now, my v6 hard to start.(sorry it's a double post as i open a thread b4, should i close it?)
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post Jun 27 2008, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(headacheD @ Jun 27 2008, 01:19 PM)
A new V6 kaki report in!
Hi hi to all sifus & bros here.
My v6 owns a manual gearbox 222, v6 ori engine. opps my this is the 4th gear box, previous 3 nos are Auto.
My fuel consumption per tank can go 480km. Last time auto gearbox run only 400km.
Facing a prob now, my v6 hard to start.(sorry it's a double post as i open a thread b4, should i close it?)
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what do u mean by hard to start?
have u checked the battery? or starter?
or ur car wants a new engine? a V6TT perhaps? laugh.gif


Added on June 27, 2008, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(silbii @ May 4 2008, 01:16 AM)
what's the normal cost for this on a Pv6:-

1. full service to change timing belt + items + labour ?

2. top overhaul?
coz thinking of doing 1 and maybe 2, by end of this year...suspect some white smoke ommission...hmm

my mileage is already 90k+...guess i need to do the timing belt soon

oh..another thing...just got a used pajero oil cooler from chop shop for rm150...wanna do mod and install it as an atf cooler for my v6 but not sure which workshop good for this...and for the hose, how long should i buy?

some good links or price quote is appreciated
thx!
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For Q1,
i've just done my 100K full service about 5 months ago.
Timing belt 100K (Gates, Guido, etc) ~ RM350
alternator belt (bando) ~ Rm25
aircond belt (bando) ~ RM25
waterpump ~ RM 110
sparkplugs (denso iridium x6) ~ RM35 x 6 = RM210
fuel filter ~ RM25 (can't remember)
oil filter ~ RM10
air filter ~ RM15
gb filter kit ~ RM 25 (can't remember)
engine oil (depends) ~ Petronas Semi-Synth 4L RM85 + 1L bottle top up RM25
gb oil ~ Proton 1L x 4 bottles RM 20 x 4 = RM80
coolant (depends) ~ RM20
labour (depends on workshop) ~ RM250
the prices above are for reference only. some items i can't remember.. whistling.gif

as for installing atf cooler, i can recommend a very reliable v-sixers member who has a workshop to do it. thumbup.gif
interested PM me..

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 27 2008, 03:53 PM
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post Jun 27 2008, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Jun 25 2008, 09:19 AM)
my standard auto 2002 v6 can go 215~220kmh  flex.gif
tried it 3 times already.
twice tried it alone, once with 2 frens in the car watching dvd.. biggrin.gif


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:21 am
for me, buying a v6 worth every damn cent.
i've had my 2002 v6 for 2 years now, and loving it. rclxms.gif

but a 2003 v6 going for RM56K?
i think u must nego summore, get it lowered to ~ RM50K


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:38 am
my calculations.
i usually fill-up full-tank and do calculations based on full-tank of petrol.
standard auto 2002 v6 with little mod on the exhaust.
and this is based on light footedness, no hard revving, no pecut2 or racing..

old petrol price RM1.92 per litre (usually i do fill-ups RM 110 - RM 115)
RM 0.22 per km (town)
RM 0.16 per km (hiway)

new petrol price RM2.70 per litre (three full-tanks already RM 155 - RM 166 - RM 159  rclxub.gif giler.. hahaha..)
RM 0.31 per km (town)
RM 0.22 per km (hiway)


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:45 am

it might be the alternator.
it happened to me before, not to my v6 but to my previous car.
the car won't start with new battery and every light goes dim.

went to workshop, checked, and found out the alternator rosak, it reversed the current..
meaning, the alternator pull all the current from battery, not recharging it..


Added on June 25, 2008, 9:48 am
it is not mivec as standard v6 is not a mivec.
it just the max torque is around that rpm.
so it feels a bit like more power.

but for mivec or mivec-md, a lot more pull can be felt.
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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Jun 27 2008, 03:23 PM)
what do u mean by hard to start?
have u checked the battery? or starter?
or ur car wants a new engine? a V6TT perhaps? laugh.gif


Added on June 27, 2008, 3:53 pm

For Q1,
i've just done my 100K full service about 5 months ago.
Timing belt 100K (Gates, Guido, etc) ~ RM350
alternator belt (bando) ~ Rm25
aircond belt (bando) ~ RM25
waterpump ~ RM 110
sparkplugs (denso iridium x6) ~ RM35 x 6 = RM210
fuel filter ~ RM25 (can't remember)
oil filter ~ RM10
air filter ~ RM15
gb filter kit ~ RM 25 (can't remember)
engine oil (depends) ~ Petronas Semi-Synth 4L RM85 + 1L bottle top up RM25
gb oil ~ Proton 1L x 4 bottles RM 20 x 4 = RM80
coolant (depends) ~ RM20
labour (depends on workshop) ~ RM250
the prices above are for reference only. some items i can't remember..  whistling.gif

as for installing atf cooler, i can recommend a very reliable v-sixers member who has a workshop to do it.  thumbup.gif
interested PM me..
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Buddy thanks for the Input, Yup is my alternator giving problem. I wasted Rm180 for brand new battery which is un-necessary sweat.gif

RM350 for Alternator including workmanship rclxub.gif

Can you please pm me your v-sixer menber workshop address, I may one want to consider installing one unit on my gen2 auto

This post has been edited by FerrariST: Jun 27 2008, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(FerrariST @ Jun 27 2008, 04:15 PM)
Buddy thanks for the Input, Yup is my alternator giving problem. I wasted Rm180 for brand new battery which is un-necessary sweat.gif 

RM350 for Alternator including workmanship rclxub.gif

Can you please pm me your v-sixer menber  workshop address, I may one want to consider installing one unit on my gen2 auto
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sorry to hear about ur alternator.. cry.gif
and i've PMed u my frens info..
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post Jun 28 2008, 08:21 AM

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[quote=NeuroOne,Jun 27 2008, 03:23 PM]
what do u mean by hard to start?
have u checked the battery? or starter?
or ur car wants a new engine? a V6TT perhaps? laugh.gif

I'd changed the battery, ori ngk sparkplug (platinum), grounding cable, vs, fuel filter & all belts changed, since i swap my gearbox.
V6TT half cut quoted around 6.8k ler, labour ler........ doh.gif
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ok.
but can u describe "hard to start"?
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post Jun 28 2008, 11:34 AM

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did a long journey in a perdana v6 yesterday.. was trying a new method of saving fuel by doin 90kmh on the highway, as it is the most economical speed.. as expected, this car is really nice 2 drive on highways n long journeys.. very comfortable, quiet n nice 2 drive..

was travelling wit 4 person on board n boot full of stuff.. could say the car was fully occupied.. i could say that the car doesnt sip fuel as much as i expected it 2 be.. not sure yet though, havent done a proper calculation.. im judging juz by the fuel gauge..

but, one thing i notice is, when ure overtaking someone, its quite hard 2 get it up 2 speed.. is it only mine, or is it the same wit all v6s??

only thing is.. its damn hard 2 drive economically on our roads, coz a lot of mofos will cucuk ur behind n flash around asking u 2 go faster eventhough im already on the most left lane.. stupid mofos!! u would expect in the days of massive petrol hike like now people would start 2 go slowly n learn 2 save fuel.. these people who r the ones whom u see on tv keep making noise n doin demonstrations bout the fuel hike, coz they drive like stupid idiotic maniacs!! learn 2 control ur right foot u mofos!! maybe u could save some money n can afford 2 buy rice 4 ur family dry.gif

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QUOTE(CooShyRee @ Jun 28 2008, 11:34 AM)
did a long journey in a perdana v6 yesterday.. was trying a new method of saving fuel by doin 90kmh on the highway, as it is the most economical speed.. as expected, this car is really nice 2 drive on highways n long journeys.. very comfortable, quiet n nice 2 drive..

was travelling wit 4 person on board n boot full of stuff.. could say the car was fully occupied.. i could say that the car doesnt sip fuel as much as i expected it 2 be.. not sure yet though, havent done a proper calculation.. im judging juz by the fuel gauge..

but, one thing i notice is, when ure overtaking someone, its quite hard 2 get it up 2 speed.. is it only mine, or is it the same wit all v6s??

only thing is.. its damn hard 2 drive economically on our roads, coz a lot of mofos will cucuk ur behind n flash around asking u 2 go faster eventhough im already on the most left lane.. stupid mofos!! u would expect in the days of massive petrol hike like now people would start 2 go slowly n learn 2 save fuel.. these people who r the ones whom u see on tv keep making noise n doin demonstrations bout the fuel hike, coz they drive like stupid idiotic maniacs!! learn 2 control ur right foot u mofos!! maybe u could save some money n can afford 2 buy rice 4 ur family dry.gif
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driving @ 90kmh does give the best milage than driving 100kmh.
like the Proton Savvy record milage (RM0.08 per km) that was done by Proton, the driver does only 80-90 kmh around malaysia.

for overtaking, i think its ok la. quite a lot of pull.
but the gb does not drop the gear at the right time, so u have to accelerate early..
or u can press the overdrive button to "OD Off"..

This post has been edited by NeuroOne: Jun 28 2008, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Jun 28 2008, 05:36 PM)
driving @ 90kmh does give the best milage than driving 100kmh.
like the Proton Savvy record milage (RM0.08 per km) that was done by Proton, the driver does only 80-90 kmh around malaysia.

for overtaking, i think its ok la. quite a lot of pull.
but the gb does not drop the gear at the right time, so u have to accelerate early..
or u can press the overdrive button to "OD Off"..
yeah lor.. i 4get that the v6's gearbox is quite low tech, so it will not immediately shift down when u accelerate.. i shouldve turn off the OD..

i dont wanna use the cruise control as its better 2 use ur own foot 2 drive economically.. i guess it works, coz at the end i realize it doesnt use as much fuel as i expected it 2 be.. from now on, ill do 80-90kmh on highway, thnx JC for the tip thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(NeuroOne @ Jun 28 2008, 10:23 AM)
ok.
but can u describe "hard to start"?
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well, i need to start at least 2 times plus press the throttle only will start. Is it consider hard to start????



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might be the injector.

if during driving also sometime the petrol seems 'sangkut-sangkut' then it might also be the fuel filter or worse, the fuel pump..

but if during start only, might be battery, the injector, fuel filter..
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i was told maybe the sensor got prob,
they asked me to wait till it really spoiled only changed
becos it's hard to find out the actual prob!

anyway i'll check my injectors & fuel pump, do u know how much they cost plus the labour for this 2 items.

Thankz man!
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sorry bro.
i haven't encounter this prob before, so i don't know the cost.
anyway, hope ur car can be healthy again...
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post Jul 4 2008, 10:57 AM

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hehe, anyway i'll update the post if i fixxed it.
hope all of our V6 stay healthy.
thankz bro!
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i wanna update to..
few weeks ago ..with my dads perdana..
i manage to drive full tank ..from subang my home to kuantan..
and back to subang again ...by the time i arrive subang the tank is really dry la brows.gif
when otw back time i really follow speed limit and also cruise along the way
oh ya not to forget use the hold button as well..
FC not bad la i can say ...
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Haiz. this noob coming in again.. tongue.gif

everyone keep asking, technical thing.. so let me ask a different one just to keep this thread alive.. my roadtax just expired. how much it cost for perdana 1995 (converted to 6A12 engine) with our current rate calculation? icon_question.gif never own a car before, before this just use my dad's name when buying a car, so i didnt bother to pay roadtax+insurance, just bank-in to my daD.. sweat.gif


Added on July 14, 2008, 7:45 pmaiseh.. just asking and google at the same.. then found this calculation page.. doh.gif

Road Tax Calculation

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QUOTE(phreak_id @ Jul 14 2008, 07:42 PM)
Haiz. this noob coming in again..  tongue.gif

everyone keep asking, technical thing.. so let me ask a different one just to keep this thread alive.. my roadtax just expired. how much it cost for perdana 1995 (converted to 6A12 engine) with our current rate calculation?  icon_question.gif  never own a car before, before this just use my dad's name when buying a car, so i didnt bother to pay roadtax+insurance, just bank-in to my daD..    sweat.gif


Added on July 14, 2008, 7:45 pmaiseh.. just asking and google at the same.. then found this calculation page..  doh.gif

Road Tax Calculation
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Before this, the road tax for perdana v6 is around RM394..... whistling.gif
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post Jul 20 2008, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(pakhusin @ May 30 2008, 08:43 PM)
3500rpm ah? I thought that is where the initial rpm after the car downshifted (from 4 to 3 i think)..
try use the "Hold" button at 2nd gear and try to reach 4800rpm... (3rd gear or 4th gear also can, but that time already above 150km/h lor...)
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It's my favorite way of accelerating...usually drag 2nd gear reaching 5k rpm and shift it back to D...anyway...the 'sudden' pull is a nice feeling...hehe

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