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 Perdana V6 Owners, share ur experience!! V-sixers

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post Oct 21 2008, 12:21 PM

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another question guys, can the stock perdana radio/cd player use amp for ICE?jz went to an acc shop, they quoted me a ridiculous price bcos according to them need wiring modification bla bla bla...
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post Oct 31 2008, 02:21 PM

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sure can..
but the wiring may need a little bit of mod la..
if the shop quoted ridiculous price, go survey other shops la..
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post Oct 31 2008, 07:00 PM

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My mother use Perdana V6. laugh.gif Got it for free. ahaha
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post Nov 19 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(milener @ Oct 4 2008, 04:40 PM)
silbii,

I'm not sure if it is possible.

But the question is, why and what for?
Auto tranny for Wira and PV6 are abundant. Problem is that PV6 auto is more prone to condemn, so you keep replacing them.

If it is possible to install Wira auto into a PV6, i think it would condemn even much faster than the ones meant for PV6.

And by the way, PV6 auto has the fuzzy logic system and autocruise linked to it. By replacing with Wira auto to a PV6, both the features will be disabled by default.
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hey evryone, another perdana owner here. another previous member of v-sixers too. so hello to all seniors frm v-sixers, i knw there's sum here. anyway i'v been driven 3 batch of perdana in my life including SEI and V6 and Enhanced. =p

btw milener, wira 1.6 gearbox in totally da same as perdana SEI gb. da only thing da diff frm 1.6 and 2.0 perdana SEI gb is da torque converter which convert engine torque to gb turning power output and oso slightly diff in housing bt dis doesn't matter.
1st, how to diffretiate it. it got da code written/prited on da torque converter. etc like: KV, B5, B6, 1F, 3F.....
diff displacement of engine uses diff torque converter. if i'm not miztaken perdana SEI uses KV.

da 2nd thing diff frm 1.6 and 2.0 perdana gearbox is nt da gearbox itself but its da GEARBOX ECU. and dis will result in either pwr/eco for 1.6 and auto/hold mode for 2.0 perdana to function diffrently. and as u said perdana auto cruise is linked to dis ECU and 1.6 didn't. and yea, fuzzy logic its a fully computerize chip dat found in perdana. imagine perdana 1995 oredi got dis technology and yet nw hyundai/kia only started to hv dis technly. even new honda car got dis technoly if i'm not miztaken.new avanza oso got dis function. giv a claps to ourselve as a perdana owners. =p

wats fuzzy logiz for??

fuzzy logic is a system specially design for panic free... dis system will automatically feels da road condition as well as da car load weight as well as da car speed to engage da most suitable gear position for da driver.
for example, lets say if u'r on da way cumin down frm a hill.. when ur right foot is nt on da fuel pedal, u'll feels sum engine braking rite? and da car wont go further faster unless u press da pedal. dis is da hard work dat da fuzzy logic did. its uses engine braking to maintain da car speed insteed of u urself using brake to slow down da car. nt like other car.... frm up da hill without pressing fuel pedal, when u reach half da hill ur car speed is almost over 100km/h dy. unlike perdana with fuzzy logic system. its might go bit faster but nt toooo fast coz of da engine braking. and why engine braking? its like u'r drivin manual car. when down frm genting. we uses gear to slow down da car like shifting 3rd to 2nd.. fuzzy logic did da same.
when uphill pulak. when we maintain our foot pressure and keep in certain rpm, fuzzy logic will sense da road condition and shift da gear frm high position to lower position instead of we da driver ourslef step hard in da pedal to get it downshift.
another diff of perdana's fuzzy logic and wira's 1.5 &1.6 without F.logic. did u realize dat while u r drivin wira 1.5/1.6, when u pull da gear lever/shifter frm D position to 2 in nrmal dirve, u'll feel dat da gear change directly and fast into 2nd gear compare to our perdana.. slower. its becoz our fuzzy logic will THINK BE4 proceed. its will downshift to 3rd gear den only follow by 2nd gear. and dis will result in time lag of gearshift in perdana if ur plat with da gear shifter. dis function will be disable while in HOLD MODE. try dis!! in HOLD mode, try shift ur gear frm D to 2... da gear will change much more faster compare to AUTO mode wit fuzzy logic enabled. its like drivin MANUAL car. =)

and for ur information... da gear ratio for wira 1.5, 1.6, perdana SEI and V6 its totally da same. frm 1st to 4th gear.
juz dat wira 1.5 dun hv 4th gear and oso without GB ECU at all. wira 1.5 uses steel cable to tranfer da (data)frm throttlebody to gearbox to let it change da gear. da throttle pulls da cable actually and change da fluid pressure in GB.
and when u loosen or tighten dis cable it will result in earlier or slower changing of gear. for ours, we uses TPS(throtle positon sensor) to tell GB ECU. den GB ECU will tell da GB when to engage any gear in da most suitable time. dat means we can oso set da time for changing either earlier or slower by turning da TPS with special tools(diagnostic machine) to read da data.
da diff in 1.6, 2.0 and v6 GB is da torque converter. and da special DIFF thing V6 hv its about da FINAL gear.
(notes) if our car din engage in dis final gear, it will result in makan minyak coz da rpm is higher compare to normal working GB, in da same speed.
V6 FINAL gear hv 3 or 4 clucth plates and for perdana SEI and wira 1.6 only gt 1 clutch for da final gear.
why V6 needs so many plates of clucth for final gear?? its becoz V6 got higher torque and higher HP comapre to SEI and 1.6. and oso V6 can stand higher top speed.
why auto got clutch?? tot only manual GB got clutch??
manual gb clutch work as a plate to engage and turn da gearbox. but auto slightly diff frm manual. auto GB uses fluid pressure to kicks all those cluch plates in to turns those gears. there's is more then 20-30 clucth plates in a SINGLE auto gearbox. means if 1 of these clutch plates tear out or wear out. u'll get sumthing like no gear at all while in D,2 or L positon. or sumtimes da rpm to very high but da car speed is still da same. this will result in comsume more fuel too.. and becoz of da many clutch plates for da final drive, da housing of da V6 GB is bit longer compare to 1.6 and SEI.

k, hopes my 2 cents help u.... =p ops too long...
and i hopes to get bac to v-sixers soon... =p
oh yea, 1 more thing if u dare to try. with fuzzy logic system our gear will automatically shift into 2nd gear while da rpm reaches da red line although its in "L" position.. dis is to prevent damage to da engine and GB.

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post Nov 24 2008, 10:49 PM

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yea bro..
please join our TT again..

all perdana owners are also invited..
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post Dec 1 2008, 12:33 PM

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post Dec 4 2008, 05:02 PM

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I'm using perdana V6 2007 model, now currently itchy to change the HU add some amplifier system, currently the only challenge im facing is make up my mind to change the HU to single din, planning to go for alpine, most alpine is 1 din, i just do not want to install some plastic flimsy cover to cover the other half hole.. someone can post pics of the aftermarket HU installed.. want to see how it looks.

Much appreciated.

Cheers

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register999
post Dec 18 2008, 12:12 AM

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perdana V6 have many probleM lo..
* gear boX
* service mahal
*car mahaL ..Rm 1 ratus ribu lebiH..
can buy another good car adY.
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any body know which service centre very PRO in perdana car


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post Dec 18 2008, 12:14 PM

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Im driving a SGTi, planing to get a 2nd hand perdana for daily ride. Which year do you think I shud get? Im thinking of geting the SEi 97 or 98 1s or 2000 V6 becoz I dun quite fancy the alfa facelift but I love the interior............ undecided!! Im sure the SEi gives better consumption right!
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post Dec 18 2008, 12:34 PM

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Although i spend quite alot of money to repair my V6 but is still consider quite well worth, since the car is already 7years + and only had a major break down on me few months back, comes to think of it, i would said it fair enough.

Infact i do quite like the design of v6, as long you lower the ride and replace with other types of sport rims, it look good enough.
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post Dec 26 2008, 10:54 PM

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Anyone here converted their v6 auto to manual lately? What is the cost? smile.gif
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post Dec 27 2008, 12:53 AM

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Just changed my tires to Continental CSC3.. feels good but expensive.
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post Dec 27 2008, 04:22 AM

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I have some question for my V6 car, Lately i found out that the ABS light light up sometimes when i drove the car, the strange thing is that it sometimes went off when i refueling the petrol..

now it always light up when i start the engine..

i've read somewhere that it indicates my ABS are broken, tried few other solution like removing the battery connection to reset the electronics..but no luck...

Any suggestion? how much is it if i need to change to a new ABS?
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post Dec 27 2008, 10:51 PM

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NUR_VER.3, I also have the same problem with you. Let me know if you found the solution.
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post Dec 27 2008, 11:47 PM

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mine too...and i'm also experiencing some clicking sounds before the a/c compressor kicks in...

read somewhere that a burnt wire under the fusebox can cause the ABS light to come on...anyone have a solution to this? sweat.gif
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post Dec 28 2008, 11:43 PM

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burnt wire? hmm will send my car to check the fuse box then...i'll inform here if i found the solution ASAP, hopefully it can be fixed without changing the ABS though...
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post Apr 16 2009, 01:35 PM

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Hi All,


I am planning to get a 2nd hand v6 (2004), the market rate ranges from rm48K. I have driven (my friend's) v6 periodically and i really love the performance. On top of that the exterior design is really cool. Before i commit to a long term bank contract, any words of advise? I only drive to work (bangsar-damansara) daily and weekends shopping, leisure trips around KL, Selangor. I heard and read a lot of complaints regarding the gear box and high cost of maintenance...(sigh)

Or should i just get a city / vios yr 2003 (boring jap car)??

Please share your thoughts...



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post Apr 18 2009, 11:29 AM

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Haiz. my old 95' using 6A12 making problem again. it was the 2nd gearbox problem in 1 year time. so, i'm looking for nice but cheap manual GB (hopefully it is not as bad as auto one). kindly if anyone have a good offer here, please let me know ASAP. currently digging everywhere looking for it.. this is my phone no.. 014-2235373. only for KL or nearby area for easier transportation.. ty. notworthy.gif

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post May 10 2009, 10:28 AM

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Hi all..
I'm a new here..
Currently driving a Perdana 4g63T..
Hope you all don't tapao me la..
Haha...
Anywhere..
Nice to meet you all...



Added on May 10, 2009, 10:31 am
QUOTE(phreak_id @ Apr 25 2009, 04:04 PM)
Haiz. my old 95' using 6A12 making problem again. it was the 2nd gearbox problem in 1 year time. so, i'm looking for nice but cheap manual GB (hopefully it is not as bad as auto one). kindly if anyone have a good offer here, please let me know ASAP. currently digging everywhere looking for it.. this is my phone no.. 014-2235373. only for KL or nearby area for easier transportation.. ty.  notworthy.gif
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Bro..
Better get the manual GB..
Auto GB is very problem la..
I also change GB few times already...
Until cannot tahan and need to overhaul the engine..
Then straight kasi transplant..

Another thing..
6A12 manual is already powerfull enough for those that not seeking higher perfomance..
But the modding area for this engine is very small..


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